#1 DH Frame

[canfieldF1]

What frame first comes to mind when asked, "Whats the #1 DH frame?"

PS- I know a lot of it is preference

[Brian HCM#1]

Thats easy, Karpiel Armageddon:D

[kidwoo]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Thats easy, Karpiel Armageddon:D

And Ironically, that's the one frame that has never made it to #1 in any Norba national or UCI pro race.:D

[eastcoastzigzag]

iron horse, reasonably priced, sweet lookin , top notch performance, and awesome specs on the completes.

also, Giant dh bikes, jus a sick ride. i used one for a slalom race cause my brakes on my slalom bike $hit the bed rite b4 the race. 2.7's, super T and all 8 in in the rear, VERY effciant in the corners and acceleration.

[Curb Hucker]

Disco Volante (if i lived in utah or norcal, believe me i'd be keepin it) and the Turner DHR

[Jm_]

Brooklyn Machine Works Super Trucker.

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by kidwoo
And Ironically, that's the one frame that has never made it to #1 in any Norba national or UCI pro race.:D The question was DH frame not whats the best racing DH frame.

[kidwoo]

Originally posted by canfieldF1
What frame first comes to mind when asked, "Whats the #1 DH frame?"


Whatever one you're riding at the time.

[MMike]

Originally posted by kidwoo
Whatever one you're riding at the time.

No. Whatever Josh Bender is riding.

[Lizard0fthetrai]

I'd say whatever Bender last broke, more pivots give you better suspension performance and less brake jack. :eek:

[Bikerpunk241]

Orange 223 !!!!!!!! :thumb:

[Big E]

Banshee Scream cause i ride one and its just a sweet bike. or a v10 i still cant get over riding one of them

[DHracer1067]

Originally posted by canfieldF1
What frame first comes to mind when asked, "Whats the #1 DH frame?"

PS- I know a lot of it is preference


first thing that comes to mind is the turner dhr and the intense m1, v10 would come to mind but i think its a bit heavy.

[supros88]

I think a M3 because it gives u stiffness & vpp.

[Curb Hucker]

Originally posted by Acadian
http://www.fh-trier.de/~gielj/smilies/dots1.gif

Ah, the tri-dot thats the frame everyone should own :p

[narlus]

Originally posted by Jm_
Brooklyn Machine Works Super Trucker.

naw, gotta be either the rubber duck or the masterplan. :D

[HGR Frucci]

v10 would come to mind but i think its a bit heavy.

Started getting mine together this weekend and its right on target for 40 pounds - I don't think that's too heavy?!?:eek:

Just waiting for hoops/hubs/rubber and rear derailluer/chain installation. Sitting at 25.3 pounds with everything else...

[narlus]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
The question was DH frame not whats the best racing DH frame.

ok, i'll bite. what makes the armageddon better than other DH frames? what other frames have you ridden and what does the karp do better than those?

[HGR Frucci]

The scale...


And in an effort not to detract from this topic, the best DH frame is the one that get's my @ss down the hill in one piece:D .

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by narlus
ok, i'll bite. what makes the armageddon better than other DH frames? what other frames have you ridden and what does the karp do better than those? Cause I own one, that makes it the best;) Which really is the best bike................Ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different answers. The bottom line is its all personal preferance.

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by supros88
I think a M3 because it gives u stiffness & vpp. Are those even availible to the pubic yet?

[dhtahoe]

Originally posted by MMike
No. Whatever Josh Bender is riding.

I would never buy a bike just because that idiot rode one. He is the main reason Jan would change things on the Armageddon. Glad I got an early one before Bender started talking Jan into making changes. That's how I got away with running a 7" fork. Ya know Kidwoo I wonder if that's why your bike was such an ill handler. Bender sucks and can't even ride a bike down a trail.

[narlus]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Cause I own one, that makes it the best;) Which really is the best bike................Ask 100 people and you'll get 100 different answers. The bottom line is its all personal preferance.

well i guess i was asking what makes the Karp the best bike for you, and how you arrived at that conclusion. but maybe i already know the answer? (http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74522&highlight=bandwagon)

:devil:

[dhtahoe]

Originally posted by ViolentVolante
Ah, the tri-dot thats the frame everyone should own :p

Or we could be like you... buy a frame, wait forever to get it, ride it a week, buy a different frame, and then wait for that one. You can all be like this guy and try EVERY frame in a span of a year. Then you can have an opinion on frames... ok!

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by dhtahoe
Or we could be like you... buy a frame, wait forever to get it, ride it a week, buy a different frame, and then wait for that one. You can all be like this guy and try EVERY frame in a span of a year. Then you can have an opinion on frames... ok! I really like my Army.

[mikedee69]

I've ridden a few different DH machines ove the last few of years. RM7, Kona Stab, Turner DHR and now a Disco. Personally, for DH, I would go with the DHR. Very stable and stiff. It it well balanced in the air and it corners like it's on rails. Put an Avy DHS on the beast and it goes even faster!

[Spec8in561]

M1 and then prolly the M3...but I think turner is the hottness right now

[mobius]

V10, M1, DHR

[chillindrdude]

M3, DHR, and F4

i think the M1 is the benchmark where all DH frames is measured against

[Kornphlake]

Obviously the RM7 is the best DH bike, I'm not sure if there was ever one for freeriding but it rocked for DH. :rolleyes:

[Lexx D]

My 01 BB7:D It's special since they lowerd the pivot after this model year.:thumb:

[BMXman]

http://www.nicolai.net/04/order/details/det-m-pire-st.html


:D

[Lexx D]

Originally posted by BMXman
http://www.nicolai.net/04/order/details/det-m-pire-st.html


:D
I was looking at one of those for next season but the BB is to low for me. Oh well the search continues.

[BMXman]

Originally posted by Lexx D
I was looking at one of those for next season but the BB is to low for me. Oh well the search continues.

You do know that the bb height is adjustable right...also we were just sent the new thrust link to raise the bb...you should email Karl for more up to date info...I don't think it's made it to the website yet....D

[toughguymagee]

I am quite fond of my v10.

[HTFR]

balfa bb7

[Lexx D]

Originally posted by BMXman
You do know that the bb height is adjustable right...also we were just sent the new thrust link to raise the bb...you should email Karl for more up to date info...I don't think it's made it to the website yet....D
Thanx I will, I was looking at that or the Helius ST.

[drift1492]

MINE :monkey:

[kidwoo]

Originally posted by dhtahoe
Ya know Kidwoo I wonder if that's why your bike was such an ill handler. Bender sucks and can't even ride a bike down a trail.

true......I couldn't ride down a trail either....well ON the bike at least.

That wasn't it though. It rode like every other Army I've ridden, it was just too short of a front triangle. When I told this to Jan, he told me I was wrong and to quit mind fvcking myself.

After I got another bike, he started riding an XL front triangle and told me I was right about it not wanting to dive as much.

THAT's why his bikes ride like ass. He doesn't listen to the WOO.

[Mumbles]

Originally posted by Acadian
it's not out yet..

i think that whoever makes it, needs to retire on the spot, cuz where's there to go from the top? ;)
i don think there ever will be a best -- just a whole lot of really good ones!

[Beast]

:rolleyes: pfft. You all know it's the new Canfield F1 hands down . . . keep on the lookout for pics of the finely tuned production frames within the next few weeks . . . I'm so psyched!

[Kornphlake]

Originally posted by Acadian
it's not out yet..

Oh you mean the DH DW FR VPP UST MTB NYC Xtreeem. I hear they are being made in Taiwan though.

[kidwoo]

Originally posted by Kornphlake
Oh you mean the DH DW FR VPP UST MTB NYC Xtreeem. I hear they are being made in Taiwan though.

Nah, it's an FSR.

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by kidwoo
That wasn't it though. It rode like every other Army I've ridden, it was just too short of a front triangle. When I told this to Jan, he told me I was wrong and to quit mind fvcking myself.

After I got another bike, he started riding an XL front triangle and told me I was right about it not wanting to dive as much.

THAT's why his bikes ride like ass. He doesn't listen to the WOO. Whats the story with this?

[kidwoo]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
Whats the story with this?

I bought an army two winters ago. Jan and Town said I'd be fine with the s/m frame. It had about a 2mm long top tube, total midget bike......the same size as the polished one town used to ride. Anyway, it rode like ass because the headtube was between my knees and with the way the rear end extends on those bikes, it just felt awful. I had to pretty much ride in a manual the whole time. Plain and simple, I just needed a large.

Jan's brilliant advice was that I was just wrong and didn't know what I was talking about. He was on a large and so someone my size needed to be on a medium. Town said the same thing (mostly I think because he looks up to Jan so much.......his idol). Both just kept telling me to move the seat tower back even though this does nothing for how the bike feels when your only contact points are your feet and your hands.

So I got another bike (turner) that fit me much better. Shortly after Jan and I had that discussion, we go riding one of our shuttle spots and I notice he's on a different frame (an XL with a longer BB to heatube measurement). He tells me how much better it rides and how he doesn't have to force himself over the rear wheel anymore. Town is now riding a large disco as well; not because of me but because he went faster on that bike in a race.

You asked..........

Listen to the woo.:D

[Brian HCM#1]

Originally posted by kidwoo
I bought an army two winters ago. Jan and Town said I'd be fine with the s/m frame. It had about a 2mm long top tube, total midget bike......the same size as the polished one town used to ride. Anyway, it rode like ass because the headtube was between my knees and with the way the rear end extends on those bikes, it just felt awful. I had to pretty much ride in a manual the whole time. Plain and simple, I just needed a large.

Jan's brilliant advice was that I was just wrong and didn't know what I was talking about. He was on a large and so someone my size needed to be on a medium. Town said the same thing (mostly I think because he looks up to Jan so much.......his idol). Both just kept telling me to move the seat tower back even though this does nothing for how the bike feels when your only contact points are your feet and your hands.

So I got another bike (turner) that fit me much better. Shortly after Jan and I had that discussion, we go riding one of our shuttle spots and I notice he's on a different frame (an XL with a longer BB to heatube measurement). He tells me how much better it rides and how he doesn't have to force himself over the rear wheel anymore. Town is now riding a large disco as well; not because of me but because he went faster on that bike in a race.

You asked..........

Listen to the woo.:D I kinda had that discussion with Jan when I ordered my frame, he said I could go for either since Jan & I are the same size. Liking the way my Disco felt I stayed with the large and didn't go for the XL in fear that it would feel too big for me as I prefer a smaller frame. So far it has a very similar feel to the Disco.

[kidwoo]

Originally posted by Brian HCM#1
I kinda had that discussion with Jan when I ordered my frame, he said I could go for either since Jan & I are the same size. Liking the way my Disco felt I stayed with the large and didn't go for the XL in fear that it would feel too big for me as I prefer a smaller frame. So far it has a very similar feel to the Disco.

I like bikes with long front ends and almost no stem. Intense, turner and a few others build for this. Ventanas, karpiels etc seem to cater to the tight, sharp turning front ends. It's all preference. I was just trying to make the point that Jan doesn't listen to others too much. He's stubborn like me.;)

[Msisle Dad]

The M-1 ,It is the standard. We bought one because of recommendations from other good riders, how the bike fared in the amatuer ranks (not riding free product), and finally because of their warrenty

[Banga]

I just sold me 01 FOES DHS mono and have to wait for a month till my new 04 Mono arrives, thats my pick, everything else seems like a wet noodle to me now.

[downy]

Originally posted by Banga
I just sold me 01 FOES DHS mono and have to wait for a month till my new 04 Mono arrives, thats my pick, everything else seems like a wet noodle to me now.

:stupid:
Well said. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to mention the mono. The new Ventana El-Cuervo looks very very nice too.

[Mallet]

Intense M-1 of course!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: