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TurkeyJerkey
04-25-2004, 11:19 PM
For those of you lucky folks out there who went please give me some feedback....iam not haten, but danm i would have like to have gone.http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/mumble.gif

Budman
04-25-2004, 11:50 PM
It was SICK :D

SebringMGB
04-25-2004, 11:51 PM
cool course... im basically crippled tho! the course was smooth if you ran clean, but had consequences of you didnt. had a great time tho!:thumb:

i had a few nice clean fast runs in practice, satisfaction enough for me:D

btw.... anyone else have major respiritory problems? or was it just me cuz i spent to much time with my face in the dirt? i cant stop coughing from all the dust.

frizanko
04-26-2004, 12:22 AM
Practice on Saturday was super fun. I forced myself to ride through a shoulder injury and prolly came away worse for it, but the runs I did manage to get were a blast.The course was showing signs of abuse Sunday morning though.

boostindoubles
04-26-2004, 12:30 AM
the course kicked ass! the doubles at the bottom were a ton of fun. and like sebring said, if you didnt stay focused you could easily be in a world of hurt. i saw some knarly wrecks.


and as for the dust, i'm still pulling black boogers out.

derekpearson
04-26-2004, 01:49 AM
great trail for pictures!!!






boogers aha:)

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 03:26 AM
broke my wrist:dead:
no riding for 6 weeks:(
so lots of beer and painils till thenhttp://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/lush.gif










i want to ride my bikehttp://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/crying.gif

Jr_Bullit
04-26-2004, 08:24 AM
Hiya everyone...glad to hear the race was fun....maybe I'll make it to one sometime this year ;). I meant to go to this one...but plans keep getting in the way! I'm aiming for chelan next ... (okay okay, I'm lyin....afraid to death of the course that broke my ribs last year :p that and I haven't been a ridin much lately...anyone wanna go ride one of these days?)

toughguymagee
04-26-2004, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by HippieKai
broke my wrist:dead:
no riding for 6 weeks:(

Sorry to hear that Kai! I hope you heal up quickly!

oly
04-26-2004, 09:50 AM
Had a great time again. The best part of racing is hanging out with your team, all the friends you've made along the way. The attitude at this race was really positive. Practice didnt start to late, shuttles ran later in the night, although we hiked mostly instead of shuttling. The "sorry for the last race" bbq was a nice gesture.....I shoulda waited till I was done practicing though to eat..... the course was blazing fast.

My times this year improved a little. Theres always a reason why you coulda done better...... In run 1 i sucked a stick in between my cassette and spokes causing my freeweel not to work right, and also made the chain skip. I basically coasted the last section after the rock drop/new roll. I was pedalling, but wasnt getting any power I didnt know till I got to the end the stick was there. I thought maybe my hub failed, or skipped the chain in the front. So after that i got 1:58.5 (the same as last years fastest run.) Run 2 i washed out after the steep rock waterfall before the trees into the stepup. I came to a complete stop after skidding a huge cloud of dust up. I think derek was there and I hope he got a sequence of it...although he might have been running to save his camera I gave the spectators a good scare and sent them running. My run 2 was .9 seconds slower, but thats after having to actually stop to get re orientated after my bobble. My combined time was under 4:00 compared to last years time of 4:04:02. Maybe next year ill have better luck.

Great to meet some of the new RM folks out there. Hope all those who got hurt are doing ok. I saw Rhino in the tent and heard about Kai. We had a few scraped guys on out team but nothing that serious.

Even though i diskile the winthrop venue im looking forward to doing it all again in 3 weeks!

D

DHRacer
04-26-2004, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by HippieKai
broke my wrist:dead:
no riding for 6 weeks:(
so lots of beer and painils till thenhttp://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/lush.gif


Doh! Kai, that sucks man. :( sorry to hear that. what part of the course did it happen on? How's the bike? last year on that course wasn't good for your bike... not good at all.

hope you heal up quick and are back out there in no time. :thumb:









i want to ride my bikehttp://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/crying.gif

PsychO!1
04-26-2004, 10:48 AM
Awesome course. It required real speed management. There were spots the required some horsepower and speed, if you spent it early you were screwed. I spoent a lot of time trying to dial all the drops and jumps and get a handle the flow, late saturday I finally nailed a good clean run over everything.

Both race runs were smooth and clean, I was happy. The Super Vet class is very competitive this year!!!!! After the first run I was in 4th with 5th, 6th, and 7th within 1 second!! NO pressure!:eek:

I managed to hold off the others in the second run and held onto the 4th spot.

Good times, good times.

brock
04-26-2004, 10:58 AM
Was "the jump" in the course?

oly
04-26-2004, 11:53 AM
Originally posted by brock
Was "the jump" in the course?

the lip was taken down so it was long and low. I still didnt hit it correct. I needed to pause in practice to watch somone really hit it at speed. Im sure the stretcher would have been busy there id the original jump was there. Oh, and there was also a nice sized stump in the landing zone.

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by DHRacer
Doh! Kai, that sucks man. :( sorry to hear that. what part of the course did it happen on? How's the bike? last year on that course wasn't good for your bike... not good at all.


i slaped the berm to berm that ate me last year and called it my biotch!
this crash was on the bumpy rock fall section right up before the rockgarden berm of death. There is like the 3 rocks you go down and i had done it fine 6 times but on my 7th practice i did a look back off of the top and stuffed my wheel into the second rock and landed with my wrist between my chest and the earth on top of the third rock then slid down to the bottom. Then i got up and did the last little drop and the doublles then my wrist started to tell me to fvck off:monkey:

PsychO!1
04-26-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by HippieKai
i slaped the berm to berm that ate me last year and called it my biotch!
this crash was on the bumpy rock fall section right up before the rockgarden berm of death. There is like the 3 rocks you go down and i had done it fine 6 times but on my 7th practice i did a look back off of the top and stuffed my wheel into the second rock and landed with my wrist between my chest and the earth on top of the third rock then slid down to the bottom. Then i got up and did the last little drop and the doublles then my wrist started to tell me to fvck off:monkey:

Nice illustration! Reminds me of a slinky.;)

Sorry about the wrist, hope it heals fast. Good luck.

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 12:29 PM
Originally posted by PsychO!1
Nice illustration! Reminds me of a slinky.;)

Sorry about the wrist, hope it heals fast. Good luck.

Thanks man, i'm going to try and heal as fast as is possible!
and slinky! i wish
then maybe i wouldn't have a cast and this BIG bruse on my chest.:D

RhinofromWA
04-26-2004, 12:48 PM
Slow first run....just never felt "it" (comfortable) last weekend. I was actually looking forward to the second run. I was positive and looking for a no preasure run ging faster than my first....until a slow speed bobble over the rock exiting the corner after the step down on top of the course left me with a.....

Dislocated Shoulder :rolleyes:

My first ever. No pain meds at the hospital with they put it back and the nurses called me a stud. :) Kai can vouch on that one. I was so focused on my shoulder that I thought stud was an abbreviation for the type of dislocation I had...you know hospital code....

I heard "I think this guy is a stud. :think:ing that was a type of Dislocation
After it was reset I hear "I told you this guy was a stud" Ohhhh then it hits me.

My feet did levitate off the bed and I did try to kind of sit up but I was just startled by the sensation. It hurt less that it being out of the socket....live an learn.

Freak and VG helped me get my limp arse home. I slept in Freaks truck while VG drove my truck back. You guys were great. A big thank you for taking the time to get this gimp home by 1:30 this morning.

I drove my 5sp truck into work this morning (about an hour late) Now it is backto paying off medical bills.......

Rhino

Velocity Girl
04-26-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by HippieKai
i slaped the berm to berm that ate me last year and called it my biotch!


That jump was on my s**t list as well and damn it was such a great feeling to clear it this year!!!

(It was also very cool that they built up the frontside of the landing so if you came up a tad short, you weren't destroying your wheel!!! Luckily though, I only came up a tad short only once and would have still been ok without the new stuff :D :D :D but it was a nice reassuring feeling to have it there just in case!)

Kai and Kevin...hope you're both feeling better soon!

Mitzel123
04-26-2004, 01:32 PM
well i had a fricken blast there. this was the first time i was able to ride this course and it was rad, i really enjoyed it. but anyways, here are some pics hippiekai took wit my camera. . .Click Here for Pics!!! (http://community.webshots.com/album/137684126jRFbii )


more to come later

derekpearson
04-26-2004, 01:35 PM
Sorry about the injuries you guys:(
Nice to meet you as well kai and chat a bit with you kevin! Freaks mother in law is cool:cool: THanks to all who came up and introduced yourselves! and to the guys riding by who yelled HEY DEREK! who I dont even know who they were, haha that was cool :D
Saw lots of impressive riding and lots of crashes!! Got it all on film of course :)

Rode over with PsyCHo Mike. It was interesting. On our way to meet at 330 am saturday morning we both got pulled over, so we were both late for the meeting. Then we were given horrible directions to Round Table Pizza Saturday night and ended up driving around for about and hour. Found it and then got even worse driving directions to the motel and killed another hour or so taking the tour of downtown spokane:dead: Then on the drive home we got egged standing in the park and ride haha.


Oh yeah and whoever stole my sample shot of Leana Gerard off my advertising sign... shame on you:mad:

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by derekpearson
and to the guys riding by who yelled HEY DEREK! who I dont even know who they were, haha that was cool :D

haha
one of those was me!:D





before i broke myself:(
damn i hate this........and typing with one hand sucks:mad:

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 01:43 PM
a few shots just to get them started.
since i was broke i used mitzels cam to snap a few
here is Mitzel123 over the first double

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 01:45 PM
levi "the beave" miller on the berm to berm going REALY fast

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 01:46 PM
hard-cory on his hard tail with rear brake only....frakin nuts

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 01:47 PM
joel

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 01:48 PM
WWU jeff

oly
04-26-2004, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by HippieKai
levi "the beave" miller on the berm to berm going REALY fast

i like that angle on the jump. Different perspective.

RhinofromWA
04-26-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by oly
i like that angle on the jump. Different perspective.

Yeah Oly I noticed that too.

Kai.....how tall are you? :D Look like you were in a tree or something. :) Standing on a log? :confused: It looks like you are taking that picture from up in the air.

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by RhinofromWA
Yeah Oly I noticed that too.

Kai.....how tall are you? :D Look like you were in a tree or something. :) Standing on a log? :confused: It looks like you are taking that picture from up in the air.

i was standing on a small log with the camara held up....i didn't think it was going to work but it turned out cool.

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 02:16 PM
wwu carl

Freak
04-26-2004, 02:35 PM
Here are the some of the pics that I got. One of my pivot bearings blew up on the bike, so I didn't get to race....Oh well, stuff breaks...

Here are the pics. Pretty much the Pro's and Semi-pro's and a few others.

http://www.jlsracing.com/beacon_bomber/index.htm

Transfer
04-26-2004, 03:15 PM
http://www.jlsracing.com/beacon_bomber/images/IMG_2617.jpg

This one makes me squirm a little. Cool pics.

DHRacer
04-26-2004, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by RhinofromWA

Freak and VG helped me get my limp arse home. I slept in Freaks truck while VG drove my truck back. You guys were great. A big thank you for taking the time to get this gimp home by 1:30 this morning.

I drove my 5sp truck into work this morning (about an hour late) Now it is backto paying off medical bills.......

Rhino


wait a minute... crashing, shoulder, ER, freak and VG driving you home.... this is starting to sound ALL TOO FAMILIAR! :eek:


Dang Rhino, that sucks... you and Kia, man... that course is definitely taking it's toll on the RDR peeps.





I would like to take this opportunity to thank Freak and VG for being the best friends EVER!!! What more can I say? they don't come any better than those two. :)

Iain
04-26-2004, 04:33 PM
um yea....me too! holy crap

RhinofromWA
04-26-2004, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by DHRacer
wait a minute... crashing, shoulder, ER, freak and VG driving you home.... this is starting to sound ALL TOO FAMILIAR! :eek:

Dang Rhino, that sucks... you and Kia, man... that course is definitely taking it's toll on the RDR peeps.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank Freak and VG for being the best friends EVER!!! What more can I say? they don't come any better than those two. :)

Yeah my crash was a stupid 2mph crash...er I was flying and forgot there was this drop yeah that is it. ;)

Nothing spectacular. I was disgusted that I hurt myself again. Stupid fall. :) I think we should ask for a volume discount at the ER next time.......lol I was in the hospital maybe an hour. and then sent packing. I am sore this morning but am out of the sling to work or drive.

I have taken 2 extra strength Tylenol (last night on the ride home) and 1 Alleve this morning. They don't seem to help much. :( They never do. I will probably skip anymore pain meds unless I can't sleep but I survived last night......

I really didn't see the big deal about resetting the shoulder....it hurt much worse just being out. I hear people get put under for it....it was scary when it really moved and fell in...but I was more startled then in pain.

Rhino "scaredy cat" from WA

PsychO!1
04-26-2004, 05:21 PM
Hey Rhino...

I've gone through the shoulder dislocation and my advise is wear the sling and do EVERYTHING the doctor's tell you, go through physical therapy if you can.

When a shoulder is dislocated, especially for a long period of time, there is extensive damage to the tendons that hold shoulder in place. If they don't heal properly, the dislocation will be more likley to happen again....and easier.

Mine came out about 20 times in 10 years. It got to the point it came out reaching for a beer!!!! Even came out in my sleep once, that's when I decided it was time for surgery.

I'm no doctor, just my experience.

By the way, my first dislocation was very similar to your experience. It was out for about 3 hours before it was put back in at the ER.
A lot of tendon damage is done in that time.

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 05:37 PM
i just tried to wrench on a bike (thats what i do for $$$) and it's a no-go:(
so now i'm off the bike and out of work....this sucks!

crash13
04-26-2004, 05:52 PM
i had a great time at beacon. i didn't crash and i got pretty good times.

sorry about your injuries kai and kevin. hope u get well soon. nice pictures kai!

PsychO!1
04-26-2004, 06:04 PM
I'd like to thank the Round and Round crew. They did an awesome job at this race. They managed to squeeze in a free BBQ, Plenty of practice time, race re-runs for a few that had timing errors from the blast-off, blast-off awards, and of course the Bomber race and awards, all with out a hitch. (at least it appeared smooth as silk to me.)
The timing was great, results were quick. They had the expert final results up before I could grab finish my run, grab a beer and get back.

Great job, thanks.

rainbow_smoke
04-26-2004, 06:18 PM
I walked all over the course and watched all my friends race. I must say though it is more fun to race then watch! Next time!

oly
04-26-2004, 06:24 PM
Originally posted by PsychO!1
....... grab a beer and get back.


Thanks for the beer...... i was having withdrawls...you know being a drunk and all......

rainbow_smoke
04-26-2004, 06:24 PM
wsu dirtrider:
Rob
aka: WSU_DH'er

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 06:33 PM
#163

this kids folks wanted to be able to find this pic easy so if you know him let him/them know it's here!

tmx
04-26-2004, 06:44 PM
yuck. sorry to hear about the injuries. heal up quick y'all.

RhinofromWA
04-26-2004, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by PsychO!1
Hey Rhino...

I've gone through the shoulder dislocation and my advise is wear the sling and do EVERYTHING the doctor's tell you, go through physical therapy if you can.

When a shoulder is dislocated, especially for a long period of time, there is extensive damage to the tendons that hold shoulder in place. If they don't heal properly, the dislocation will be more likley to happen again....and easier.

Mine came out about 20 times in 10 years. It got to the point it came out reaching for a beer!!!! Even came out in my sleep once, that's when I decided it was time for surgery.

I'm no doctor, just my experience.

By the way, my first dislocation was very similar to your experience. It was out for about 3 hours before it was put back in at the ER.
A lot of tendon damage is done in that time.

I hear ya.

I am in the sling when I am not driving or working (computer desk job) Unfortunately I hear to many stories like yours...:( I am not going to go riding before it's time...thats for sure. I will make an appointment shortly.

It was between 1-1.5 hours before it was put back in. Long enough to get down teh mountain checked out to the truck and to the ER. I don't think I could have lasted the 3 hrs....yikes :dead:

Rhino

SebringMGB
04-26-2004, 07:57 PM
you guys all need to learn how to crash!
i took 2 REALLY nasty spills, and came away from both with a slightly pulled groin (feels ok now) a HUGE bruise on my hip, and a small scrape on my back.
1st one, on the second double at the end, came in really nose heavy, tagged my front wheel on the front of the tranny, and flipped onto my back, while on the bike (i think). Derek saw it, maybey he can tell me what happened. something to be said for lightweight riders, and the "tuck and roll" method:D
second one. wasnt paying attention, and came off the rock drop before the doubles at the end, as far left as you can go, however high to flat it was, i landed and totally cratered in the soft dirt. my second run was a crash fest, 3 good ones, i dont even remeber what heppened. i just lost my concentration and fell all over.

WSU DH'er
04-26-2004, 08:31 PM
Another very fun race and another well deserved...uh i mean there was no one else to give it to.... metal. Ya thats right first place collegiate c

This weekend was alot nicer to me only one little crash instead of something like 7 stupid little wrecks in the blast off (I go slow my wrecks aren't bad that all you that go fast)

Rob

Mike.rider
04-26-2004, 09:47 PM
good times, so im cruzin around in the lot and my pedal stripps and my brand new FSA V-drives are striped on the drive side! so my wonderful mother runs me all ove spokane looking for a new set and i mean did we go all over so i got the crankls swaped um and every things runin again. becuse of the crank fiasco i only got 2 practice runs in and im clearen every thing feelen good. the next mornin im kinda tired and only got one run in. so im doin good and i get here ( see image) my fork bottems becuse im 180 and riding with stock springs so im bucked forward and fly into the tree of the the left side where the go around meets the course, slaming the small of my back then plowing onto my chest. and that just finished me off i was out of it. runin my race runs i just kinda cruzed too most of the goarounds and just kinda had fun, ran a 2.25. so im feelen more confident on the second run doin well clearen every thin again then i get to the rock step up type thing be for where i crashed, bike shoots out from under me of into the flags, i grave it and finish my run with a 2.23 so over all the ridin kinda sucked but it was still fun. o and thanks to AJ for haven the casette tool and allen that i needed cuse mine were locked in my van.

DHRacer
04-26-2004, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by RhinofromWA
I think we should ask for a volume discount at the ER next time.......lol I was in the hospital maybe an hour. and then sent packing. I am sore this morning but am out of the sling to work or drive.

Rhino "scaredy cat" from WA

well, if you went to Sacred Heart... expect to bent over on the bill... i just got mine finally... $1600! :eek: i'm disputing it. they didn't do dick, except take some xrays, tell me it was broke, and told me to see my doc when i got home... oh and wrote me a couple scripts to cover me until i got home... NOT 1600 worth in my opinion. VG can attest for their lack of expediency in getting to us also. :rolleyes:

but i do think you've got something there on the volume discount thing! ;)

i'll see you in Winthrop, if you're still not back to riding by then we can be shuttle drivers/photographers for the weekend :)

bibs
04-26-2004, 10:03 PM
I ate it on my race run, and messed up my new lid :) Oh well that is my most favorite course of all!!!! My good run was a 1:53 with a dab in a berm. I need to get faster!!! :D

HippieKai
04-26-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by bibs
that is my most favorite course of all!!!!

werd!:monkey:

SebringMGB
04-26-2004, 10:34 PM
are any of the WIM series races more technical? As in, more stiff to deal with in between the jumps and berms? more rocky, denser dirt, steeper.... less open desert-ish?

bibs
04-26-2004, 10:42 PM
nope, that was the most fun WIM course, the race this weekend at PA will be killer though! And Nationals will be KILLER!!!! Cant wait

Mike.rider
04-26-2004, 11:02 PM
the one good pic:

Toshi
04-27-2004, 10:03 AM
you guys are STILL riding without health insurance?

oly
04-27-2004, 10:13 AM
Originally posted by Toshi
you guys are STILL riding without health insurance?

Doesnt NORBA offer some sort of coverage?

DHRacer
04-27-2004, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by Toshi
you guys are STILL riding without health insurance?

who said they didn't have insurance?:confused:

PsychO!1
04-27-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by oly
Doesnt NORBA offer some sort of coverage?

Yeah, but my understanding is it doesn't kick in unless your really messed up....like over 100K or something. Don't quote me here, but i know the deductible is sooo high that a trip to the ER for the day porbably wouldn't even be close.

RhinofromWA
04-27-2004, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by Toshi
you guys are STILL riding without health insurance?

I have health insurance. I realized yesterday they didn't even ask me for my insurance info at the ER.

I am checking out what I need to do with my insurance company today.

Rhino

DHRacer I think I went to Valley :think: One exit east of Argonne.

RhinofromWA
04-27-2004, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by SebringMGB
are any of the WIM series races more technical? As in, more stiff to deal with in between the jumps and berms? more rocky, denser dirt, steeper.... less open desert-ish?

Says the man who crashed hard a couple times this weekend....:D

DHRacer
04-27-2004, 12:41 PM
winthrop is tight at the top, a little tech in places... it's by far a better course than days of old, that's for sure... all thanks to Speedbump (thanks Dave, you da man! :thumb: )

DHRacer
04-27-2004, 12:47 PM
well, went to the docs yesterday, still another 6-8 weeks before thinking about getting on a bike.

in the xray, it still looks broke, but you can fainly see some calcium bridges forming.

he said since it was broken "up" and seperated, it'll take a little longer than normal for it to completely mend.

Hey Rhino, what's the prognosis on you? when will you be back in the saddle again?

Toshi
04-27-2004, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by DHRacer
who said they didn't have insurance?:confused:
all this talk about the cost of the ER visit has me wondering. isn't that what insurance is supposed to cover?

Originally posted by RhinofromWA
I have health insurance. I realized yesterday they didn't even ask me for my insurance info at the ER.

I am checking out what I need to do with my insurance company today.

Rhino
:thumb: :D

DHRacer
04-27-2004, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by Toshi
all this talk about the cost of the ER visit has me wondering. isn't that what insurance is supposed to cover?


:thumb: :D


insurance doesn't cover everything. most policies have a deductible (mine's $300) then will only cover 80% up to a certain dollar amount before it kicks in at 100%. (my max out of pocket amount is $1000)

with my insurance, i have pay 1300 out of pocket until 100% coverage kicks in.

the dollar amounts and percentages vary from carrier to carrier, but you do have to pay when you get hurt :(

RhinofromWA
04-27-2004, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by DHRacer
insurance doesn't cover everything. most policies have a deductible (mine's $300) then will only cover 80% up to a certain dollar amount before it kicks in at 100%. (my max out of pocket amount is $1000)

with my insurance, i have pay 1300 out of pocket until 100% coverage kicks in.

the dollar amounts and percentages vary from carrier to carrier, but you do have to pay when you get hurt :(

So far...my plan. I am not sure, but for now I have this info.

$75 ER Copay
$100 Deductible
100% after that(but not positive). So I am out of pocket $175, unless it isn't 100% after the deductible.

Doctors visits and Perscriptions are $15 copay

Hey DHRacer, that $1000 out of pocket for each occurance? Or is that in a year.....if so you have used your $1000 and now anything else is covered, right? Not that I hope you have to use it much more. :( but for follow up visits......yes?

SebringMGB
04-27-2004, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by RhinofromWA
Says the man who crashed hard a couple times this weekend....:D

HEY! what i was getting at... was the beacon course is open, and fast. i dont often ride at places set up like beacon, i like (or am used to) fighting my way down, as opposed to flying down a loose dusty trail and doing front flips off the tranny on big doubles :)

oops :D
http://www.derekpearson.com/beacon2/can91.jpg

RhinofromWA
04-27-2004, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by SebringMGB
HEY! what i was getting at... was the beacon course is open, and fast. i dont often ride at places set up like beacon, i like (or am used to) fighting my way down, as opposed to flying down a loose dusty trail and doing front flips off the tranny on big doubles :)

oops :D
http://www.derekpearson.com/beacon2/can91.jpg

OOooooo:eek: I didn't know that was you. Yikes. Helps when you have a face to tie to that pic.....

Wenatchee is open and has some tight trees. Good dirt..not really to dusty
Chelan Is desert Sage and rocks...loose and dusty.
Winthrop is mostlyhigh mountain pine trees....not real close togeather...but can be dusty. The first race is not as dusty as the MTB festival in the late fall.

I like Spokane then Wenatchee then Winthrop/Chelan (tie) they both have irksome shuttle issues but also have interesting terrain that are really different.

TurkeyJerkey
04-27-2004, 08:20 PM
I am glad to here that you guys/gals all maid it back alive.... hehehe man those are some sick pics..... wait till derk gets the video's up on his site that will be something.... i would tell you about my ride SAT/SUN but hell no you guys stole the show....

OLY :way to go,picking up your time....
Derekpearson: great pictures as if there was ever a bad one¤
HippieKai: dang dude i saw that pic.... but at least you went! although i would rather the dirt in my nose then the injury get well soon!!! oh and even when your hurten you still take great pics..http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/beer.gif
RhinofromWA: you da man.....do you always get up and do it again....like this guy is like Superman with out the S t-shirthttp://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/joke.gif
Jr_Bullit: ummm yea nice .....ahhhh yea very nice ummm yeahhh advatar
PsychO!1: way to go man lets see 3rd spot next time around!
Velocity Girl: See women do fly, even when men are looking!!!http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/bowdown.gif

Hope to make it next time.... and again "Sorry about the injuries" here this 24oz oh heineken is for you!!!http://www.cripplefight.com/smileys/drunksing.gif

DHRacer
04-28-2004, 09:09 AM
Originally posted by RhinofromWA
So far...my plan. I am not sure, but for now I have this info.

$75 ER Copay
$100 Deductible
100% after that(but not positive). So I am out of pocket $175, unless it isn't 100% after the deductible.

Doctors visits and Perscriptions are $15 copay

Hey DHRacer, that $1000 out of pocket for each occurance? Or is that in a year.....if so you have used your $1000 and now anything else is covered, right? Not that I hope you have to use it much more. :( but for follow up visits......yes?

mine is
$50 ER copay
$300 deductible
80% up to $1000
100% after first $1000...

now, the $1000 does not include the 300 deductible, so max out of pocket before insurance picks up the full bill is $1300. and it's per year.

this my first major thing for the year, so, i've not paid anything toward my deductible yet... however, i got a statement from my insurance yesterday for the "Doctors" portion of the bill... $595 for this guy... the breakdown went as follows:
$148 ER Physician
$447 Surgery

:confused: surgery? I don't remember any surgery? (umm, yeah, i'll be disputing this one!)

i can only imagine what the $959 "hospital" portion of the bill will entail? :(

what a fricking joke! at least i had someone there (thanks VG :) ) that can attest to the fact that they really didn't do dick for me (at least not $1600 worth), and we waited... and waited... (sigh)

Happy Humpday to all :D

Velocity Girl
04-28-2004, 10:16 AM
Yes, we waited forever in the ER!!! My only entertainment was listening to the guy in the other half of the room whining and complaining about an infection in his toe and getting all embarassed when the very cute nurse had to give him a shot in the butt!!!

HippieKai
04-28-2004, 10:24 AM
yeah i think the Spokompton docs are a bit on the slow side....i had to tell them what to wrap when they did my cast...keeped telling me i broke my thumb! uh NO the x-ray is right here dude and it's my wrist see????
man that was lame:rolleyes:

Honeywell
04-28-2004, 11:44 AM
We should just be lucky insurance is covering anything. More and more doctors these days won't even take insurance and are switching over to cash only. The whole health care system is really messed up.

You should see the bill for a month stay in the hospital :dead:, heck, even a week for that matter.

Toshi
04-28-2004, 12:03 PM
Originally posted by Honeywell
We should just be lucky insurance is covering anything. More and more doctors these days won't even take insurance and are switching over to cash only. The whole health care system is really messed up.
er, reference please? :devil: i know of doctors who won't take medicare, but that's completely different.

Honeywell
04-28-2004, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Toshi
er, reference please? :devil: i know of doctors who won't take medicare, but that's completely different.

My dad's dentist stopped taking any kind of insurance, and there was a story on the news about a local family doctor who works cash only. I'll try and dig up a link.

Honeywell
04-28-2004, 12:07 PM
http://www.king5.com/health/stories/NW_040504HEBsimplecareKC.f8a206bf.html

At this point it is only small doctors, but it's gotta make you wonder if it will ever catch on.

HippieKai
04-28-2004, 12:25 PM
so i just got back from a "real" docter here is b-town and guess what....

...the dorks at spokane vally hospitle were wrong!!!:rolleyes: I have no brake what so ever. The bone that they thought i had broken off was a bone that was supposed to be there but they had just taken a REALY bad x-ray.:rolleyes:
the docters today made fun of the spokomton docs a bunch it was great:D
so now i have a wrist brace and will be back on a bike in 3 weeks:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Velocity Girl
04-28-2004, 12:31 PM
Awesome news Kai!!!

Toshi
04-28-2004, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by Honeywell
http://www.king5.com/health/stories/NW_040504HEBsimplecareKC.f8a206bf.html

At this point it is only small doctors, but it's gotta make you wonder if it will ever catch on.
interesting, thanks for the link. i'd never heard of this.

and that's also great news, kai, maybe you won't have to lower your asking much more in your self-for-sale thread before getting any takers :D

HippieKai
04-28-2004, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Toshi
interesting, thanks for the link. i'd never heard of this.

and that's also great news, kai, maybe you won't have to lower your asking much more in your self-for-sale thread before getting any takers :D

yeah i thought i'd have to discount for broken parts but now it's a freshly repaired item.....BUY NOW!!!

DHRacer
04-28-2004, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by HippieKai
so i just got back from a "real" docter here is b-town and guess what....

...the dorks at spokane vally hospitle were wrong!!!:rolleyes: I have no brake what so ever. The bone that they thought i had broken off was a bone that was supposed to be there but they had just taken a REALY bad x-ray.:rolleyes:
the docters today made fun of the spokomton docs a bunch it was great:D
so now i have a wrist brace and will be back on a bike in 3 weeks:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


that's great news Kai!:D

be sure to check with your insurance to make sure THEY know that the Hospital screwed up and misdiagnosed you, maybe you won't have to pay as much for that visit... since they were a bunch of idiots?

HippieKai
04-28-2004, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by DHRacer
be sure to check with your insurance to make sure THEY know that the Hospital screwed up and misdiagnosed you, maybe you won't have to pay as much for that visit... since they were a bunch of idiots?

thats the plan. I don't want to pay for anything that wasn't needed!

crash13
04-28-2004, 06:13 PM
thats awesome news kai! man i'm glad i didn't get hurt in spokane. but i guess getting hurt anywhere sucks. how hard is it to read an x-ray. hey rhino! are u sure that shoulder was disloacted hehe:D

RhinofromWA
04-28-2004, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by crash13
thats awesome news kai! man i'm glad i didn't get hurt in spokane. but i guess getting hurt anywhere sucks. how hard is it to read an x-ray. hey rhino! are u sure that shoulder was disloacted hehe:D
:think:

:) haha yeah I am almost positive. Unless I imagined it going back in. :dancing: damn that felt better thanit being out.

now when I go int o the Doc's I will need him to double check nothing was fractured or torn...becuase the Spokane valley Er said nothing was wrong past teh whole pulled stretched out ligaments and chit. :think: just great....doc was probably hitting the bottle before Kai and I came in. :D

Kevin "Uh no. My shoulder hurts, I just fell on it, stop touching me belly, I tell you my shoulder is hurting...I would tell you if something else washurting...sure you can iodine and cover up my skinned forarm. :rolleyes:" Dahlen

PS in all seriousness I understand why they had to ask me about my neck and collar boneand ribs and everthing else....but I know what was hurt...it wasn't a maybe. :) the volunteers were very nice and came down and checked me out. The tiny lady that went with me down the hill was very polite...one of you single guys should crash in front of her. ;) "sure you can kiss my boo-boo" :devil:

TurkeyJerkey
04-28-2004, 07:53 PM
one day soon:rolleyes: