GWB is the best person to run USA. [Archive]

03-08-2004, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Westy
I would not be so sure, right now it is a dead heat (http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040308-012211-9529r.htm) . I would guess that current events will decide the race unless one of the candidates screws up.

It might be close at the moment, but consider Kerry had been campaigning for months and Pres Bush only started last week.

Kerry has no passionate support for either Kerry as a leader or his ideas. He's a one trick pony and its the "I'm not GWB" card.

fluff

03-08-2004, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by N8
It might be close at the moment, but consider Kerry had been campaigning for months and Pres Bush only started last week.

Kerry has no passionate support for either Kerry as a leader or his ideas. He's a one trick pony and its the "I'm not GWB" card.

In fact GWB has been campaigning for his entire presidency...hence the trip to Iraq to feed the troops turkey, the 'Victory is ours' aircraft carrier faux pas and all the other publicity stunts that help run a country.

fluff

03-08-2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by N8
Like it or not... it will be GWB in 2004.

Well, certainly for the majority of it...:devil:

$tinkle

03-08-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by nydave
I'll say it again, GWB. We Amereicans messed up when we didn't re-elect his father.
Kerry is not the answer.

GWB is. as a conservative, i must disagree.

whether i'm for or against NAFTA, kerry's my man
whether i'm for or against Operation Iraqi freedom, kerry's my man
whether i'm for or against gay marriage, kerry's my man
whether i'm for or against special interest, kerry's my man
whether i'm for or against the Patriot act, kerry's my man.

bush is too bleedin' rigid.

now that's how to troll!

DRB

03-08-2004, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by N8
He's a one trick pony and its the "I'm not GWB" card.

That makes two of them in this race.

Kerry - "I'm not GWB."

Bush - "If I can't bomb it, I can't deal with it."

I Are Baboon

03-08-2004, 01:54 PM

Up until I read this thread, I was undecided. But reading the first post in this thread has enlightened me. I am now convinced: GWB in '04.

03-08-2004, 01:56 PM

Here's a sampling of John Kerry quotes from his own webpage... hummm....

johnkerry.com (http://www.johnkerry.com)

Click on SEARCH and type in Fvck and sh!t and see what comes up...

The dude's a real potty mounth.

fluff

03-08-2004, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by N8
Here's a sampling of John Kerry quotes from his own webpage... hummm....

johnkerry.com (http://www.johnkerry.com)

Click on SEARCH and type in Fvck and sh!t and see what comes up...

The dude's a real potty mounth.

And GWB was a junkie...so?

Who gives a **** about bad language?

Is that the best you can do?

Silver

03-08-2004, 01:58 PM

John....you had me after the "I'm not Bush." I don't care about the rest of your platform. As much as I don't like it, the alternative is worse.

Run a fvcking ham sandwich on the Democratic ticket and it's got my vote.

fluff

03-08-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Silver
Run a fvcking ham sandwich on the Democratic ticket and it's got my vote.

It would do less damage!:)

Silver

03-08-2004, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by fluff
And GWB was a junkie...so?

Who gives a **** about bad language?

Is that the best you can do?

Actually, I think George likes to go fast. I've never heard any rumours that he was into heroin. :D

fluff

03-08-2004, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Silver
Actually, I think George likes to go fast. I've never heard any rumours that he was into heroin. :D
'S'only 'cos he can't spell it...

$tinkle

03-08-2004, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Silver
Run a fvcking ham sandwich on the Democratic ticket and it's got my vote. so much for cavorting w/ jews!

Westy

03-08-2004, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by N8
Here's a sampling of John Kerry quotes from his own webpage... hummm....

johnkerry.com (http://www.johnkerry.com)

Click on SEARCH and type in Fvck and sh!t and see what comes up...

The dude's a real potty mounth.

Some Gems that came out of Bush's mouth

[The estate tax is] on its way to being put to extinction. I say, on its way -- you'll hear me talk in a minute that these -- some of these taxes don't really go away. It's like they go away for a period of time, but they come back
More Muslims have died at the hands of killers than -- I say more Muslims -- a lot of Muslims have died -- I don't know the exact count -- at Istanbul. Look at these different places around the world where there's been tremendous death and destruction because killers kill. If you want to be blunt about what has taken place, sometimes when you don't measure, you just shuffle kids through. Then you wake up at the high school level and find out that the illiteracy level of our children are appalling. We didn't need any more theory in Washington. We needed people that actually done.

HippieKai

03-08-2004, 02:03 PM

Does the pres realy do anything no matter who he is?...isn't it just the people he elects to help him? we should be looking at those folks and trying to see what there interests are...not the "figure head"

now come on and attack me!!!! :)

03-08-2004, 02:06 PM

http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/parodies/foreign_endorsement.jpg

Evel Monkey

03-08-2004, 02:19 PM

Originally posted by N8
Here's a sampling of John Kerry quotes from his own webpage... hummm....

johnkerry.com (http://www.johnkerry.com)

Click on SEARCH and type in Fvck and sh!t and see what comes up...

The dude's a real potty mounth.

I'm sure you've all seen this.

In recent years, members of Congress have gone to jail for child molestation, fraud and other charges.

117 current and recent members of the House and Senate who have run at least two businesses each that went bankrupt, often leaving business partners and creditors holding the bag.

Seventy-one of them have credit reports so bad they can't get an American Express card on their own (but as members of Congress, they get a government-issued Amex card without a credit check).

Fifty-three have personal and financial problems so serious they would be denied security clearances by the Department of Defense or the Department of Energy if they had to apply through normal channels (but, again, as members of Congress they get such clearances simply because they fooled enough people to get elected).

Twenty-nine members of current and recent Congresses have been accused of spousal abuse in either criminal or civil proceedings.

Twenty-seven have driving while intoxicated arrests on their driving records.

Twenty-one are current defendants in various lawsuits, ranging from bad debts, disputes with business partners or other civil matters.

Nineteen members of current and recent Congresses have been accused of writing bad checks, even after the scandal several years ago, which resulted in closure of the informal House bank that routinely allowed members to overdraw their accounts without penalty.

Fourteen have drug-related arrests in their background, eight were arrested for shoplifting, seven for fraud, four for theft, three for assault and one for criminal trespass.

Does anyone really believe political leaders are above the general public somehow. These are people, like everyone else. They make good and bad choices. At the end of the day, they are no better than you and I. It makes me sick when politicians play the holier than thou card and people eat it up. I hate this time of year (every 4 years, of course) as much as I hate hunting season.

Silver

03-08-2004, 02:19 PM

When did Ann Coulter learn photoshop?

Tenchiro

03-08-2004, 02:29 PM

Dubya can lick my sack.

Damn, that would be a good bumper sticker.

RhinofromWA

03-08-2004, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Evel Monkey
Does anyone really believe political leaders are above the general public somehow. These are people, like everyone else. They make good and bad choices. At the end of the day, they are no better than you and I. It makes me sick when politicians play the holier than thou card and people eat it up. I hate this time of year (every 4 years, of course) as much as I hate Wabbit season.

Duck Season? :D

Evel Monkey

03-08-2004, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by RhinofromWA
Duck Season? :D

I hate pesky wabbits.

JRogers

03-08-2004, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by $tinkle
so much for cavorting w/ jews!

I was gonna say... Maybe a turkey sandwich or perhaps gefilte fish might be better for drawing in the votes

03-08-2004, 03:08 PM

http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/kerry_quiznos.jpg

Silver

03-08-2004, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Tenchiro
Dubya can lick my sack.

Damn, that would be a good bumper sticker.

Put some good Colombian blow on there and he might just sniff it...:devil:

LordOpie

03-08-2004, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Silver
Run a fvcking ham sandwich on the Democratic ticket and it's got my vote. Originally posted by $tinkle
so much for cavorting w/ jews!
Oh, we can vote for a ham as PotUS, it's just after the ham has been served, we can't eat the former president.

Toshi

03-08-2004, 04:25 PM

Originally posted by nydave
I'll say it again, GWB. We Amereicans messed up when we didn't re-elect his father.
Kerry is not the answer.

GWB is.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=992709#post992410

:D

ALEXIS_DH

03-08-2004, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by Toshi
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=992709#post992410

:D

soo N8. still disagreeing with Stuart Mill??

me thinks, the problem is, as the first post demonstrates, that conservatives are so because of indoctrination.

liberal thought on the other hand, is usually the result of reasoning.

historically, liberal thought always resulted from analizying and reasoning the then-current conservative loopholes and limitations.

conservative thought, on the other hand, is just transmiting ideas by indoctrination and tradition, as its own name says.

i cant imagine of a better way to give an example, than the first post of thie thread.

RhinofromWA

03-08-2004, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
soo N8. still disagreeing with Stuart Mill??

me thinks, the problem is, as the first post demonstrates, that conservatives are so because of indoctrination.

liberal thought on the other hand, is usually the result of reasoning.

historically, liberal thought always resulted from analizying and reasoning the then-current conservative loopholes and limitations.

conservative thought, on the other hand, is just transmiting ideas by indoctrination and tradition, as its own name says.

i cant imagine of a better way to give an example, than the first post of thie thread.

You are assuming (and we know what happens when we assume...) that all liberals are free thinkers.

Now speaking of the population (US) in general, you couldn't be more wrong. That is a rash generalization that won't get people anywhere....other than to get some liberals to give you a self a firming high five. :D

I fear free thinkers are in short supply on both sides these days....present company excepted.

It doesn't take any more brain cells to follow one side over the other. Do you dissagree? "Parrots" don't choose their sides.

In a parrot voice:

Squack! Polly is a liberal

Squack! Polly is a conservative.

Independent thought is not a trait of liberalism nowadays. Only there cloak. Special interest on both sides call the shots anyway parties be damned.

fluff

03-08-2004, 05:56 PM

It does appear that the liberals have a better grasp of spelling.

Toshi

03-08-2004, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by fluff
It does appear that the liberals have a better grasp of spelling.
i know in my head that ad hominem arguments hold no weight. but they're so fun

:D :eek: :D

ALEXIS_DH

03-08-2004, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by RhinofromWA
You are assuming (and we know what happens when we assume...) that all liberals are free thinkers.

Now speaking of the population (US) in general, you couldn't be more wrong. That is a rash generalization that won't get people anywhere....other than to get some liberals to give you a self a firming high five. :D

I fear free thinkers are in short supply on both sides these days....present company excepted.

It doesn't take any more brain cells to follow one side over the other. Do you dissagree? "Parrots" don't choose their sides.

In a parrot voice:

Squack! Polly is a liberal

Squack! Polly is a conservative.

Independent thought is not a trait of liberalism nowadays. Only there cloak. Special interest on both sides call the shots anyway parties be damned.

i was talking about liberal thought. and how both schools of thought appear. never mentioned liberals.

of course you can indoctrinate liberal thought. but its not its nature.

conservative thought is by its own nature and definition, indoctrinated.

the key word is MOST. not ALL.

RhinofromWA

03-08-2004, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
i was talking about liberal thought. and how both schools of thought appear. never mentioned liberals.

of course you can indoctrinate liberal thought. but its not its nature.

conservative thought is by its own nature and definition, indoctrinated.

the key word is MOST. not ALL.

Hmmm so how many liberals (people) are liberal thinkers?

To anyeon watching I don't proof read at all and type poorly so please don't use my example as how "conservatives" spell.....eh Fluff? :D

...and don't tell me not one person was ready to follow that stuff Alexis posted to a political party comment. :think: I made a premptive stike....:eek: :)

Liberal thought does not make a liberal. So a conservative can have liberal thoughts. Now where does that leave us?

BurlyShirley

03-08-2004, 06:53 PM

Originally posted by fluff
It does appear that the liberals have a better grasp of spelling.

maybe that's why they control the media:devil:

zod

03-08-2004, 07:48 PM

I think I'm gonna be too busy washing my hair to vote.............

ALEXIS_DH

03-08-2004, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by RhinofromWA
Hmmm so how many liberals (people) are liberal thinkers?

i can assure you, more than conservatives free thinkers.

BurlyShirley

03-08-2004, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
i can assure you, more than conservatives free thinkers.

please, "assure" us then.

Im interested to see how you will do this.

ohio

03-08-2004, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
blabbity blah, i'm the smartest man alive, blabbity blah

by "free thinking" do you mean "pompous, close-minded, and with poor grammar?" because if so, you make a very valid point.

you are officially the last man picked for my liberal dodgeball team. Instead, I pick Silver, DRB, and kihachi so I can just hang out on the sidelines and eat cheesedogs while they go to work (sorry fluff, you're too damn liberal even for me... ;)).

MMike

03-08-2004, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by ohio
by "free thinking" do you mean "pompous, close-minded, and with poor grammar?" because if so, you make a very valid point.

you are officially the last man picked for my liberal dodgeball team. Instead, I pick Silver, DRB, and kihachi so I can just hang out on the sidelines and eat cheesedogs while they go to work (sorry fluff, you're too damn liberal even for me... ;)).

Funniest "referencing quote" ever.... (I haven't read this thread....just the last page).

LordOpie

03-08-2004, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by ohio
by "free thinking" do you mean "pompous, close-minded, and with poor grammar?" because if so, you make a very valid point.
Whoa! Is it pick on Aunt Flo time again? :devil:
Originally posted by ohio
you are officially the last man picked for my liberal dodgeball team. Instead, I pick Silver, DRB, and kihachi...
Fack! I'm always picked near last :angry: I'll probably wind up on the Repugnicans team who'll just lie to the ball in an attempt to create misdirection, but just wind up getting beamed in the noggin'!

fluff

03-09-2004, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by LordOpie
Whoa! Is it pick on Aunt Flo time again? :devil:

Fack! I'm always picked near last :angry: I'll probably wind up on the Repugnicans team who'll just lie to the ball in an attempt to create misdirection, but just wind up getting beamed in the noggin'!

Don't worry mate, seeing as I am too liberal for Ohio I've decided that spoiling tactics are the order of the day (good old comintern tactic).

There is a twist, I'm going to start a ultra-conservative team to split the Repugnican (nice spin on N8's clever Dimocrat nickname BTW) vote.

Here's my manifesto;

War on France.
No foreigners allowed any rights in USA.
Unless they want to work for free
In which case we'll let them
So long as they take care of at least two illegal aliens
Use the poor for medical & scientific research.
And special effects dummies for Hollywood war movies (better gore).
Private healthcare enforced - if you didn't sort yourself out you deserve to die, fool!
Bigger guns for all who vote for me.
Gayness to be criminalised
Along with birth control of any form.
Christianity to be official religion of USA.
All heretics to be burnt for fuel.

Wanna join?

$tinkle

03-09-2004, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by fluff
Here's my manifesto;

War on France.
No foreigners allowed any rights in USA.
Unless they want to work for free
In which case we'll let them
So long as they take care of at least two illegal aliens
Use the poor for medical & scientific research.
And special effects dummies for Hollywood war movies (better gore).
Private healthcare enforced - if you didn't sort yourself out you deserve to die, fool!
Bigger guns for all who vote for me.
Gayness to be criminalised
Along with birth control of any form.
Christianity to be official religion of USA.
All heretics to be burnt for fuel.

Wanna join? you forgot:
capital punishment for women who choose abortion (nevermind the irony, i'm busy leveling judgment)

golgiaparatus

03-09-2004, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by bikeCOLORADO
How about honesty and integrity? Determination? Leadership?

YEAH! GWB in 2004... :think: wait did you say honesty and integrity?

fluff

03-09-2004, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by $tinkle
you forgot:
capital punishment for women who choose abortion (nevermind the irony, i'm busy leveling judgment)

Dammit, I'm ganna hafta reprint all my campaign material now!

DRB

03-09-2004, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by fluff
Dammit, I'm ganna hafta reprint all my campaign material now!

If you are going to reprint don't forget the part about show absolutely no fiscal responsibility at all.

fluff

03-09-2004, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by DRB
If you are going to reprint don't forget the part about show absolutely no fiscal responsibility at all.

Are you after a tax cut? You can have one if you say the magic words...

DRB

03-09-2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by fluff
Are you after a tax cut? You can have one if you say the magic words...

Campaign contribution?

fluff

03-09-2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by DRB
Campaign contribution?

How big a tax cut would you like sir?

DRB

03-09-2004, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by fluff
How big a tax cut would you like sir?

Well.... see ..... actually I would rather not pay any at all. In reality I would rather I get money back......lots of money.

fluff

03-09-2004, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by DRB
Well.... see ..... actually I would rather not pay any at all. In reality I would rather I get money back......lots of money.

Well, for a large enough campaign contribution I can guarantee that, should I be elected, (publicly funded) grants will be available for my most needy constituents...*

S'easy this running for pres' lark!

*Roughly translated, this says give me money now and get more back later or give me no money now and pay heavily for it later.

DRB

03-09-2004, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by fluff
Well, for a large enough campaign contribution I can guarantee that, should I be elected, (publicly funded) grants will be available for my most needy constituents...*

S'easy this running for pres' lark!

*Roughly translated, this says give me money now and get more back later or give me no money now and pay heavily for it later.

The check's in the mail.*

*Roughly translated the payoff is on the way.

You are so going to be the first non-US born president. Arnie ain't got sh!t on you.

fluff

03-09-2004, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by DRB
The check's in the mail.*

*Roughly translated the payoff is on the way.

You are so going to be the first non-US born president. Arnie ain't got sh!t on you.

If I weren't so damn lazy (and if I had a bit of cash to spare) I'd be very tempted to try a spoof web-based campaign as an ultra-conservative independent candidate.

Transcend

03-09-2004, 04:37 PM

Originally posted by N8
Like it or not... it will be GWB in 2004.

according to this mornings polls he is a few points behind kerry now, altho kerryis losing some steam to a third party (cannot remember who)

ALEXIS_DH

03-09-2004, 08:22 PM

Originally posted by BurlySurly
please, "assure" us then.

Im interested to see how you will do this.

yeah, i shot myself in the foot when i did not wrote any references. well anyway.

since plato to sartre, most free thinkers have been liberal, including most nobel laurates, academics, and most of the most influential thinkers in mankind. etc,

i just dont care to elaborate more, am way too lazy.
just take the first 3 to pop in your mind and check what they were.

about my grammar and spelling? well, english is not my first language. i learned it from books written by americans in a british school in peru, taught by germans who spoke english. maybe thats the reason why is sounds so weird.

i dont know better any colloquial english.

ALEXIS_DH

03-09-2004, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by ohio
by "free thinking" do you mean "pompous, close-minded, and with poor grammar?" because if so, you make a very valid point.

you are officially the last man picked for my liberal dodgeball team. Instead, I pick Silver, DRB, and kihachi so I can just hang out on the sidelines and eat cheesedogs while they go to work (sorry fluff, you're too damn liberal even for me... ;)).

soo, do i missed being the sidekick of the crimson chin??

damn, i had already purchased my robin outfit.

$tinkle

03-09-2004, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
soo, do i missed being the sidekick of the crimson chin??

damn, i had already purchased my robin outfit. cleft!!

http://www.nick.com/web_lab/crimsonchin/

ohio

03-09-2004, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by ALEXIS_DH
soo, do i missed being the sidekick of the crimson chin??

damn, i had already purchased my robin outfit.

All I'm saying is examine what the goals of your posts are. If it's to convince people of a liberal line of thinking, shamelessly arguing that they are dumb and you are smart because of the people with whom you associate your line of thought (but don't necessarily associate themselves with you) is not going to win you any converts.

If it's to gain the smug satisfaction of sitting at your computer and massaging your own ego through backhanded attacks that please no one but yourself (see N8 for an example) then by all means, continue.

You're not doing to cause of liberalism any favors, and as a liberal I don't wish to be associated with that kind of approach to arguments or that kind of superiority complex. If you claim to be a liberal, your goal should be to affect forward-thinking change (the specific changes we may not agree on). It is impossible to achieve that goal without diplomacy. Your posts not only lack diplomacy, they work counter to those of us that are trying to engage in respectful argument as your attitude shuts the minds of those who may have previously been listening.

BurlyShirley

03-09-2004, 11:32 PM

Originally posted by ohio
All I'm saying is examine what the goals of your posts are. If it's to convince people of a liberal line of thinking, shamelessly arguing that they are dumb and you are smart because of the people with whom you associate your line of thought (but don't necessarily associate themselves with you) is not going to win you any converts.

If it's to gain the smug satisfaction of sitting at your computer and massaging your own ego through backhanded attacks that please no one but yourself (see N8 for an example) then by all means, continue.

You're not doing to cause of liberalism any favors, and as a liberal I don't wish to be associated with that kind of approach to arguments or that kind of superiority complex. If you claim to be a liberal, your goal should be to affect forward-thinking change (the specific changes we may not agree on). It is impossible to achieve that goal without diplomacy. Your posts not only lack diplomacy, they work counter to those of us that are trying to engage in respectful argument as your attitude shuts the minds of those who may have previously been listening.
plus i heard he's got a fat mom.