Ridemonkey get together in Europe this summer? [Archive]

Steen Good Legs

01-01-2002, 07:25 AM

Happy New Year to All monkeys- especially the European ones:D !

I've been thinking on why this "Europe" forum here, isn't more active?:confused: .... as i see it, we're a bunch of Euro's around, but not very active here in general... so is it possible to speed it up a little!?:rolleyes:

If any of you want to make this forum more active- please post some more treads here, as well as we could try to organise some European "get together's" during this coming year- 2002!;)

I know of a bunch of other Danish riders who often goes to places as Germany- France and Austria, to ride and hang out in general!.... and i've been more than jealous;) about the activity on the other side of the pond :D ... that's why i think we allready should start to find some fixed dates during this summer, and start some meetings!... aka- RM Camps, maybe at events like the european WC meetings, World Champs in Kaprun, or maybe a week of DH'ing in Let Gets this August?.... we're allready some planning on going to France and Rock n' Roll:D

Keep your inputs coming.... and happy trails! ;)

PGR

01-01-2002, 07:36 AM

Yeah, you're propably right about the bus. It would be a mess to organize, and it would also be very expensive. I could imagine...

Lets try to make a list of different places:

My suggestions...
(from north to south)
Norway/Sweden: i'm not all sure what's up there though...
Germany: Willingen/BMW BP/other? Maybe the bike show at Willngen.
Austria: Kaprun
France: Les gets (megavalanche)

Ranger

01-10-2002, 01:23 AM

Servus!

The only prob I see (for me, at least) with this is that most of these events/locations are DH oriented. Cool, everyone meets at the BMW Bikepark - what does that leave for the non DH/DS crowd to do? I don't do pit work and sag support for folks I don't know....

Let's first meet in one city, one bar. Have beers, talk about what mighty riders we are - then plan on riding together.

PGR

01-11-2002, 07:16 AM

This post originally started in the DH forum, so therefore we haven't thought much about anything else. I think we'll get back to this on a later date.

Mr. ShockWave

01-14-2002, 09:05 AM

Originally posted by Ranger
Servus!

The only prob I see (for me, at least) with this is that most of these events/locations are DH oriented. Cool, everyone meets at the BMW Bikepark - what does that leave for the non DH/DS crowd to do? I don't do pit work and sag support for folks I don't know....

Let's first meet in one city, one bar. Have beers, talk about what mighty riders we are - then plan on riding together.

both willingen and the BMW bike park have tons of XC trails, for instance willingen has over 300 km hilly XC trails, you wouldn't have the time to ride them all, there's so many of them.

Ranger

01-15-2002, 01:25 AM

Servus!

Originally posted by Mr. ShockWave
Both Willingen and the BMW bike park have tons of XC trails, for instance willingen has over 300 km hilly XC trails, you wouldn't have the time to ride them all, there's so many of them.

Now that's what I'm talking about! I need to get further south in the future!

Now you have me interested! When will we all be meeting?

Steen Good Legs

01-19-2002, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Ranger
Servus!

Now you have me interested! When will we all be meeting?

Same here!.. i ride pretty much everything- on different bikes though!;)

What about meeting at the Bike festival at the Garda lake- Italy!

I dunno much about the event yet- but i've heard tons about it, and there are many trails rideable for both dh'ers and xc'ers....!

I can check up on it, and return with some more useful info... as i've been away for more than a week here... [comp. problems...:angryfire ]

Later guys-

Ranger

01-21-2002, 01:20 AM

Servus!

Steen - when is the Garda festival? I gotta plan for this stuff months in advance - my wife desires it so...

Garda sounds cool - a bit far South, though. PGR, Shockwave, what are your opinions?

Let's have the only true Ridemonkey get-together long before the American contingent does!

PGR

01-21-2002, 09:02 AM

Well, I've heard good thing about the Garda area, when it comes to riding. It's in northern Italy right? Since it's so far South, we will be able to have the get-together sooner.

The area around Lake Garda is packed with tourists in the summer...

I'm not much of a cross-country rider. I have an XC bike, but I'm actually thinking about selling it. I haven't ridden it since September.

Mr. ShockWave

01-21-2002, 09:08 AM

the Garda Festival is from May 2 - 5, there is some info on the net about it (sorry, but it is in german)
http://www.bike-magazin.de/events/eve02_gardasee.htm
to it also sounds cool, althow i've never done some of those trail over there (the 661, 601 and so on) but i do know some people who have been there (not at the time of the festival) but they liked it very much!

Steen Good Legs

01-21-2002, 03:28 PM

I can see that you have been doing some research yourself, while i've been away!

I'm allmost certain to go to Garda- and the Bike Festival in May!:D ... i know some guys that's been there for 3 years in a row, and they say it's jampacked action 24 hours a day [and night:rolleyes: ]

But there will allso be some German events we might meet up at, at have the first true RM get together..... it could be fun to post a big article with pics and all.....:p

Think about it, and return....!

Ranger

01-22-2002, 01:08 AM

Servus!

Shockwave, the German site is no problem for me - I've been living here in Karlsruhe for five years now.

Plenty of German events to go to - just need to find a couple!

Garda sounds sweet, beginning of May doesn't. I've got something big going about that same time :(
Is there a online listing of all MTB events in Europe?

Steen - you could do a small article about it in your magazine! Something to the effect of "International meeting of friends"

PGR - fear not the XC! At least you have more than one bike!

Mr. ShockWave

01-22-2002, 05:38 AM

here are some I know off http://www.bike-magazin.de/events/eve02_uebersicht.htm
Maybe we could also meet in Willingen in June, or at the UCI World Championship in Kaprun (Austria) around the weekend of 31/08 or at the UCI race at Les Gets (France) around the weekend of 08/09. but then we are not able to ride, as only the pro are allowed on the course :(.
tell me what you think of this.

And Ranger, Karlsruhe?? and you're a DH'er? then your lucky to have Bad Wildbad closeby!!

Ranger

01-24-2002, 08:20 AM

Servus!

Shockwave - I think that last crash effected your memory.... :wink:

I'm cross-country all the way, no 25 kg fully for this guy - no sir!

The Willingen Festival in June looks good - pretty central for all of us. Any thoughts? Would like just to hang out with someone that speaks a bit of English and drink beers while talking about bikes!

Nizmeister is real close to you all as well - Düsseldorf, if I am correct. We should get him in on this as well.

Shock - where you at?

Nizmeister

01-24-2002, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by Ranger
Servus!

Shockwave - I think that last crash effected your memory.... :wink:

I'm cross-country all the way, no 25 kg fully for this guy - no sir!

The Willingen Festival in June looks good - pretty central for all of us. Any thoughts? Would like just to hang out with someone that speaks a bit of English and drink beers while talking about bikes!

Nizmeister is real close to you all as well - Düsseldorf, if I am correct. We should get him in on this as well.

Shock - where you at?

Servers!

I am in D-Dorf! Cannot make any weekend though! I fly home!

PGR

01-24-2002, 10:12 AM

Ranger! Aren't you originally from the US?

Mr. ShockWave

01-24-2002, 10:40 AM

as you could see next to my name :D
I live in Zwolle, the Netherlands
and Willingen is about 350 KM away for me, so also very duable.
and because it is in june 14-16, were ahead of the meeting of those damn:D Americans (just kidding;) )

Steen Good Legs

01-26-2002, 04:55 AM

All your talk seems very nice:D

I'm pretty sure i'll be going to the Garda event, and propably allso the one in Willingen... both should be some of the best events around Europe!

Kaprun is a must go event.... pretty close to my place- some 1300km's, an a World Champs.... not to be missed!

But anyway- we got plenty of time to arrange the details.... and get together before the US dudes!;)

I might bring both my XC bike- and my fullsuss.... depending on if i get yet another DH rig set up before....:rolleyes: :confused: .. so well be able to perform at all the different tracks!;)must

PGR

01-26-2002, 08:07 AM

Are the Am's planing on having a camp?

We should have a banner or something, to represent!

Mr. ShockWave

01-29-2002, 06:55 AM

at least willingen will be camping, as all the hotels and pensions are taken already now for that happening.

Heidi

01-29-2002, 07:33 AM

I'm going to be in France this summer for the Transvesubienne. (sp?) Anyone heard anything about this race?

Steen Good Legs

01-29-2002, 03:52 PM

Originally posted by Mr. ShockWave
at least willingen will be camping.....

Well my dear ;) - doesn't real bikers prefer tents... easier to smuggle beers in and so on!

Heidi!.... what on earth are you doing here!?...:D read this stuff about your race there http://www.avalanchecup.com/trans/sommaire.html

If you're not into Lé French languagé- try some of the halfbreeds on the dh board ;)

Gimme a mail- if i shall find some more info on France... or join us this summer... when will you be around?

Ranger

01-30-2002, 01:28 AM

Servus!

PGR - you are correct, I am American.

Heidi - I thought that the whole France/Europe thing went under when they cancelled that race in Switzerland? When are you travelling?

Willingen sounds like it would rock. No challenge with tentage for me and my stuff. June kinda sucks, but if I can I'll make some planning changes to get it in.

So, am I correct to say that we will elect Steen to be our organizer? :eek: :wink: :D

Mr. ShockWave

01-30-2002, 02:41 AM

Originally posted by Steen Good Legs

Well my dear ;) - doesn't real bikers prefer tents... easier to smuggle beers in and so on!

beer? is't that something for the mature people? I'm only allowed to drink mothersmilk :thumb:

Steen Good Legs

01-30-2002, 04:18 AM

Originally posted by Ranger

So, am I correct to say that we will elect Steen to be our organizer? :eek: :wink: :D

Ok :rolleyes: ... damn... i got elected!

When time comes- i'll post some more detailed info on the Willingen gathering... i know that some of the local dudes from my club are coming as well- so we might allready be some 6-8-10 guys from Copenhagen heading down there!:D

Mr. ShockWave

01-30-2002, 05:27 AM

If you want to I could help you with some, if needed. Bin there twice now, last year and in 2000

Steen Good Legs

01-30-2002, 06:14 AM

Cool Shockwave!;) .. you're my man!

I found this info on the Willingen Bikefestival- on www.bike-magazin.de/ (http://www.bike-magazin.de/)- and here it goes:

The outdoor fair workstation in Willingen bursts already from all seams. at least on the paper. Over 140 exhibitors to Germany largest BIKE Festival are expected. They will load their Trucks again to under the cover with test material.
And in order to enable to the 20000 visitors extensive test travels, the city Willingen invested this year correctly. 70000 euro are in the fire-new and even Worldcup suited Downhill distance at the Ettelsberg! The past Bike park from Freeride test track, CROSS Country test track and Testparcours are additionally up-polished.
Marathon: The routes are certain already: The large round: 129 km/3282 TC, the middle round: 99 km/2574 TC, the small round: 52 km/1293 TC protects to you now already times the good start numbers!
Prices only BIKE Festival Willingen (entrance on the Festivalgelaende from 14.-16 June 02). > 26 euro per person. Only BIKE Marathon Willingen on 16 June 02. > 36 euro per person. Combination package BIKE Festival Willingen + BIKE Marathon Willingen. > 47 euro per person.
The complete program with child day, detailed Marathon distance, route program, Trial Shows, Past parties, exhibitor list, driving technique min arene, Fun Contests and much more besides gibt.s as special edition in the May output of BIKE. Accommodations: Willingen offers a special overnight accomodation supply inclusive Festival Package (starting from 107 euro!) Info.: Tel. 05632/401180, www.willingen.de

That's about it for now.. i'll find more later on!:D

Mr. ShockWave

01-30-2002, 06:37 AM

also here some extra info they will NEVER post :think:

there is an sesselbahn but on saturday and sunday the waiting time will be about 45 min to an hour before you can get on the sesselbahn :angryfire .

The "DH" strecke (if it is still the same, witch I think it is) is a piece of **** :( . The y say every year that there will be a new one, but till now it has always been a big lie :think: .
The "DH"strecke that they have is more like an roadtrack that is a bit sloping, no funny big stuf what so ever, but then, you can ride even with your Hardtail down the hill. also Fullface is not very needed, just an helmet is fine enough, at least wear one!

If we do have to stay in tents, there is very close to the festival terrain an grass:rolleyes: field :D where you can set up your tent where ever you want, last year the cost for the tent were 40 Dm so it will be some 18 - 20 Euro this year. this is for the whole weekend, and pay when you get there, or you will be waken before 6:00 AM (not a pleasant idea after a ruff night)

Heidi

01-30-2002, 07:28 AM

Originally posted by Steen Good Legs

Well my dear ;) - doesn't real bikers prefer tents... easier to smuggle beers in and so on!

Heidi!.... what on earth are you doing here!?...:D read this stuff about your race there http://www.avalanchecup.com/trans/sommaire.html

If you're not into Lé French languagé- try some of the halfbreeds on the dh board ;)

Gimme a mail- if i shall find some more info on France... or join us this summer... when will you be around?

Yes, I tried to translate that page but it didn't work so well. I really know very little about the race. Just that it's supposed to take around 8 hours, very scenic and treacherous, starts at the top of some Col (6000') and ends down in Nice. I may kill myself. I will be in Cannes the first week of June - staying with a friend.

Steen Good Legs

01-30-2002, 07:51 AM

Use this site here for translating Lé French;)

http://babel.altavista.com/sites/babelfish/tr

It's 95% correct...:rolleyes: allmost!

Heidi

01-30-2002, 07:56 AM

Originally posted by Steen Good Legs
Use this site here for translating Lé French;)

http://babel.altavista.com/sites/babelfish/tr

It's 95% correct...:rolleyes: allmost!

Yeah, I tried that, I can kinds get the gist of what is being said on the page but it's a rough tranlsation. Thanks and you monkeys have a good get together!

Ranger

03-03-2002, 10:55 AM

Servus! ©

Hey PGR, Steen, and the rest - we need to start thinking about the summer get-together! I ACTUALLY saw teh sun today and that made me charge out the door. bike in hand, stoked to hit the trails!

Just a friendly reminder! BTW - Steen, loved the Swedish post!

:D

What do we all think?

Ranger

03-06-2002, 01:05 AM

Servus!

BUMP!

Steen Good Legs

03-06-2002, 08:42 AM

Ok! Listen up! :D

i'm seriously planning a trip to the Bike Festival at Lake Garda- north Italy, the days 2-5'th of May!

You'll be able to see further details at:http://www.bike-magazin.de/

There is allso the bikeFestival in Willingen, from 14- 15 of June!... the adress is: http://www.willingen.de/

Which one to choose...?.... i dunno- but some of the guys here from DK, are planning on hitting the trails in Willingen.... :D

I'll check up on it- and be back later!;)

MasterOfPlush

04-02-2002, 12:03 PM

Willingen is a bigger show, than Garda! But the mountains is somehow a better scene for a meating....

One big problem with Garda is that there is no lifts at all. It meanes that you have to use shuttels (or bike up :-(

PGR

04-03-2002, 12:48 AM

Also, air-time in Willingen is very limited. At least it was the last time I was there. (September)

In Garda: Is it public trails or only mtb specific? I'm talking downhill.

Are you MOP from DMK (mtb.dk)... Just wondering?

Mr. ShockWave

04-03-2002, 02:15 AM

at least I won't make it to Garda, becouse of work and that I then just had the weekend of 25/26/27 planned to go to Bad Wilbad for my first DH ripping of this year

Steen Good Legs

04-03-2002, 04:16 AM

Originally posted by PGR

Are you MOP from DMK (mtb.dk)... Just wondering?

It's the Master himself :D

I still dunno if i'll make it to Garda- i've talked to some other guys here- they are fresh, but lack the finances...:(

Willingen is a sure thing- some guys from here was there during Easter holidays, don't know yet how it was...

Later-

PGR

04-03-2002, 08:21 AM

Didn't you go,.. Hm, I thought you did.:cool:

PGR

04-03-2002, 10:10 AM

I've just talked with a German guy, who was in Willingen during this past weekend. He said that everything looked like it did a year ago.

He had also read in a local newspaper, that "they" (Willingen trail builders?) had received 100.000 euro, for the new trail. So who knows... Maybe they'll get it done before the bike show.

Ranger

04-04-2002, 12:21 AM

Servus!

Yeah, Gardasee is out for me. I'll still be in the U.S. on business until the 5th.

Willingen is looking good - need to see if it conflicts with my "other" hobby. Otherwise, I'll do my damnedest to get there!

I'll be easy to find - look for the fat American guy on the black hartail. No too difficult to spot.... :D

MasterOfPlush

04-04-2002, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by PGR
Also, air-time in Willingen is very limited. At least it was the last time I was there. (September)

In Garda: Is it public trails or only mtb specific? I'm talking downhill.

Are you MOP from DMK (mtb.dk)... Just wondering?

Yep, I'm MOP from DMK!

Did a roadtrip to willingen last week. They haven't done the new DH couses yet. But they are bussy building them this week, so that they should be ready for the Bike Festival!

Mr. ShockWave

04-04-2002, 06:40 AM

just receaved an email tha there is an website of the comming bike festival at Willingen, theck it out >>> http://www.bike-festival-willingen.de

Heidi

04-07-2002, 09:41 AM

I am seriously considering adding the Willingen festival to my Transvesubienne race trip. If that is the case, I can meet some of you Europe monkeys. I have a lot of details to work out though because I don't know how to get from Frankfurt (airport) to Willingen with my two bikes...maybe a rental car? But then I don't know if I could figure out how to drive there. I heard there is a train - but it's slow. :(

I am making plane and hotel reservations for it this week!!! Watch out Europe, here I come!

Steen Good Legs

04-07-2002, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by Heidi
I am seriously considering adding the Willingen festival to my Transvesubienne race trip.

WEEEEHH :D Heidi is gonna make Willingen rock ;)

If you need help for locating a proper car for you and the bikes- let me know!... i'll get some details about the direction for Willingen for you, the German autobahn system is so easy and well set up, that it won't be any problem!

Supposedly it's gonna be Europe's biggest bike event this year... propably bigger than the WC at Kaprun- that's what i've heard!

BTW: hire a big Mercedes or an BMW- and go speedin'..... :D

Heidi

04-07-2002, 10:01 AM

Originally posted by Steen Good Legs

WEEEEHH :D Heidi is gonna make Willingen rock ;)

If you need help for locating a proper car for you and the bikes- let me know!... i'll get some details about the direction for Willingen for you, the German autobahn system is so easy and well set up, that it won't be any problem!

Supposedly it's gonna be Europe's biggest bike event this year... propably bigger than the WC at Kaprun- that's what i've heard!

BTW: hire a big Mercedes or an BMW- and go speedin'..... :D

Well, that's our biggest problem (getting from Frankfurt to Willingen and then back to Frankfurt). I would fly into Frankfurt June 12th, and then leave June 17th. We are going to race in the "marathon" race - the long one.I think it's 80miles. It would be an extreme adventure for us to hit the Transvesubienne race in France the weekend before, and then get to the festival too! I don't know if I can fit our bike case in a rental car - I would need a van or pickup truck. Anyone want to pick us up?:p

Mr. ShockWave

04-11-2002, 02:42 AM

Originally posted by Heidi
I am seriously considering adding the Willingen festival to my Transvesubienne race trip. If that is the case, I can meet some of you Europe monkeys. I have a lot of details to work out though because I don't know how to get from Frankfurt (airport) to Willingen with my two bikes...maybe a rental car? But then I don't know if I could figure out how to drive there. I heard there is a train - but it's slow. :(

I am making plane and hotel reservations for it this week!!! Watch out Europe, here I come!
not to spoil your fun now, but by this time every hotel in willingen itself is booked full, you could try some of the neighboring places for an hotel, on www.willingen.de you can search and order online an hotel in a neighboring place, hope it helps for you.

Heidi

04-11-2002, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by Mr. ShockWave

not to spoil your fun now, but by this time every hotel in willingen itself is booked full, you could try some of the neighboring places for an hotel, on www.willingen.de you can search and order online an hotel in a neighboring place, hope it helps for you.

I booked the Ramada last week. Sweet, it's right in Willingen, 6k from the festival.

Steen Good Legs

04-12-2002, 01:59 PM

Originally posted by Heidi

I booked the Ramada last week. Sweet, it's right in Willingen, 6k from the festival.

That's damn cool Heidi :) i'll be looking forward to hopefully meet some :monkey: 's from the other side!

Happy weekend there...

AleX-N

04-12-2002, 11:55 PM

Hello

Willingen isnt very cool..., try to go to gara in italy... its much better.

cheers alex

PGR

04-18-2002, 08:08 AM

They have published a few pictures from their work, with the new trail.

http://www.bike-festival-willingen.de/upload_pics/downhillstrecke_1.jpg

http://www.bike-festival-willingen.de/upload_pics/downhillstrecke_2.jpg

http://www.bike-festival-willingen.de/upload_pics/downhillstrecke_3.jpg

A description (this is translated with Babelfish. Genglish.):

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Freeride Parcours Willingen type Freeridestrecke with Bikercross characteristics
- place: Willingen Ettelsberg
- concept/Design: Diddie cutter
- ascent assistance: Double doppelsessellift
- Streckenlaenge:ca.2,5 km
- Streckenbreite:ca.2 m
- Hoehendifferenz:230 m
- distance lining: Brechsand
- Befahrbarkeit:Im spring/summer (also on wet roads)
- target group: Everyone to some extent reliably on the Bike sits and the Uebungsparcours with the ice hall surely bikt
- optimal Bike:Fully to approx. 15 cm spring travel (also fun makes everything else)
- the character: First third: snaps flat passages with branches and steep curves. Second third: Interesting technical section with steep curves and properly downward gradients. Last third: Curve labyrinth with centrifugal force purely
- Sonstiges:Fuer Downhiller also over 15cm spring travel gives it in the upper distance half still the old distance with root passages fullly. For aengstliche Chickenways are there, in order to umfahren difficult distance sections elegantly. For Flowrider gibt's additionally still another few Evil Eye Trails alla North shore.

>>>>