going to the bottom

[Rafael-DH]

hey...
what about some pics of bike on the bottom?
here goes one mine with my old bike

[DHCorky]

The result of a 220lb+ rider trying to manual a V10 setup for a 165lb rider:

http://www.mtbmichigan.com/images/6-7-3urbanannarbor/images/DSC03467_JPG.jpg

[Fury]

Heres a friend off the GLC drop at Whistler..

[Fury]

and the close-up...

[DHCorky]

Fury that pic still amazes me. That bike had nothing left to give.

[-dustin]

Originally posted by Fury
and the close-up...

damn

[Yeti DHer]

Way back in 2001.

[binary visions]

The best part about that picture of the Balfa is that both tires are even flattened.. The bike could not go any further down without crumpling the frame.

Great pictures. Anyone have any more?

[Jm_]

Either 1999 or 2000, Rockville.

[How]

whoa that Balfa is set up way to soft, my bike would be like half way through it's travel off that drop, I don't think it ever goes more than 75% of it's travel.

[Earthmover]

Those pics are cool! It's amazing what these bikes going throughm and keep on ripping! Also, How, you want to set your bike up to use all your travel, otherwise just get a 4-6 travel bike thats lots lighter!

[Jeremy R]

Ha, this was my first day on the new bike.
The thing that you cannot see it that I had just landed off a little drop thing, and now I am about to gap out over another rock.
Lucky me, my suspension was already preloaded for me.:p
PS That Balfa pic is so sick. Me hasta go2 Whistler.

[slcpunk21]

Originally posted by Acadian
curtis

Look at how outa shape the seat is on his ride from the tire bottoming on it!

[DHracer1067]

well its not like a dh bike or any big drop. a little foot drop on a stumpjumper xc bike. but its a pic at like full travel.

[narlus]

Originally posted by DHCorky
The result of a 220lb+ rider trying to manual a V10 setup for a 165lb rider:

http://www.mtbmichigan.com/images/6-7-3urbanannarbor/images/DSC03467_JPG.jpg

that is an awesome photo which illustrates how difficult it is to get the front wheel up on a V10.

back to topic. here's one of aran, bottoming out on the stepdown from the bray race:

http://www.freezefocus.com/images/10029126.jpg

another rider, same spot (check out the angle of the swingarm on that ancillotti!):

http://www.freezefocus.com/images/10029156.jpg

all pics by victor (freezefocus) lucas.

[slcpunk21]

Originally posted by stoney98
it's proper, just the angle.

umm I disagree.. it looks like the rear of the seat got tapped by the tire and it got "squished" so it looks like the back is smashed forward....


but ahh.. hell if I really know, just waht it looked like to me

[Threepointtwo]

This guy's fork is bottomed.

[foesrider]

..

[HippieKai]

Originally posted by Threepointtwo
This guy's fork is bottomed.

thats not going to feel good:dead:

[Zark]

Originally posted by Threepointtwo
This guy's fork is bottomed.

No!

His tire bottomed into the fender:D
Pays to be fashion conscious and leave the fender at home on dry days;)

[Matt D]

Originally posted by How
whoa that Balfa is set up way to soft, my bike would be like half way through it's travel off that drop, I don't think it ever goes more than 75% of it's travel.

So your suspension is set up wrong is what your telling us?

[Grimey]

Originally posted by Threepointtwo
This guy's fork is bottomed.


:eek: BIKER FOX RIDES DH???!!???! :eek:





:monkey:

[How]

Originally posted by Earthmover
Also, How, you want to set your bike up to use all your travel, otherwise just get a 4-6 travel bike thats lots lighter!

that's what the magazines tell you, I save the rest of my travel for big cases and overshootings.

Here's one of me getting it bad, the landing went all wrong and my shock hasn't been the same since


:(

[zedro]

Originally posted by How
that's what the magazines tell you, I save the rest of my travel for big cases and overshootings.



:(

thats why good bikes use linkages, lets you have the best of both worlds :p :D

its the same for a well tuned fork, you'll get most of your travel most of the time; it'll eat whatever travel it needs and not bottom out.

[slcpunk21]

Originally posted by stoney98
the dark line of the saddle curves a bit. Trust me, I rode for WTB back in the day. It's the saddle. That and Curtis wouldn't set up his bike for that to happen. Even if he did, WTB would give him a new saddle ASAP!

NO NO NO.. i didn't mean it broke! I ment at that split second the seat got tapped and just compressed a little and was returning to it's normal position when the shot was taken. I to run the WTB saddle! That's why I thought it looked wierd. The best I have ever ridden!

Why the hell am I even disputing this with you.. hell if I really care, just making an ovservation.

[RDU]

I ate shi# about 10 seconds after this pic was taken

http://webpages.charter.net/yu25/robert1.jpg

[HippieKai]

Originally posted by slcpunk21
Why the hell am I even disputing this with you.. hell if I really care, just making an ovservation.

because everyone has to prove they are smarter than everyone else on RM duh!!:rolleyes:

[slcpunk21]

Originally posted by Mag204
because everyone has to prove they are smarter than everyone else on RM duh!!:rolleyes:

Well I aint that smart... look I couldn't even spell observation correct, (ovservation):D

[Fulton]

Originally posted by Acadian
BOOOM

whoa, when I first looked at that pic, I thought he was on a tazer with a dorado SC!!

[Sgt Brown]

Here's one from Sea Otter 2002

http://www.cablemarkers.com/images/sodrop.jpg

[b-man]

both me

Dropping off of a retaining wall. Even fully bottomed in the rear I couldn't get near to bottoming that damn mr. t...

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=7523751

Hitting a built up drop that is now dead :( and still not coming close to bottoming the mr. t :rolleyes:

http://www.villagephotos.com/viewpubimage.asp?id_=7523705

[scottishmark]

man i got so many for this thread, here's one to start with (more later)

[bcd]

http://bcdbcd.addr.com/frames/seths/wv.JPG
http://bcdbcd.addr.com/frames/seths/seth3.jpg

[heikkihall]

remember the picture of one of the housmans casing the big double in the sea otter mtnx ? I think stikman took the picture.

[Yeti DHer]

Originally posted by heikkihall
remember the picture of one of the housmans casing the big double in the sea otter mtnx ? I think stikman took the picture.

Here it is...

http://www.farkin.net/images/user/pana/pbpic8832.jpg

[bcd]

Originally posted by Yeti DHer
Here it is...

http://www.farkin.net/images/user/pana/pbpic8832.jpg

:dead: to the ankle
:dead: to the shock
:dead: to the rim
:dead: to the fork

[MMcG]

Originally posted by bcd
:dead: to the ankle
:dead: to the shock
:dead: to the rim
:dead: to the fork

OOOH - ouch that does not look good- not good at all. Was anyone there to witness it? What was the end result to the rider and the bike? I would assume not good on both counts. :( :dead:

[Grimey]

Originally posted by Yeti DHer
Here it is...

http://www.farkin.net/images/user/pana/pbpic8832.jpg



It looks like he is on some sort ot goofy trials bike

[Nick]

this is a good thread ... more!

[T-Pirate]

Check out cancer dragon, what a champion.

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/Picture372small.jpg

[T-Pirate]

More more.


http://bb.nsmb.com/newforum/attachment.php?postid=569822

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=101283

http://bb.nsmb.com/newforum/attachment.php?postid=572676

The rest (http://bb.nsmb.com/newforum/showthread.php?threadid=31636&perpage=15&display=&pagenumber=3)

They are all from a thread last week on NSMB

[bradical]

mmm disgusting... :dead: :dead: By the way even though the picture indicates I'm a tool, I was like 130 lbs at the time and it... looked? cool...

[T-Pirate]

Originally posted by Cancer Dragon
mmm disgusting... :dead: :dead: By the way even though the picture indicates I'm a tool, I was like 130 lbs at the time and it... looked? cool...

Are you trying to indicate that you are not a tool now? Sure.....

[T-Pirate]

yes....

[WestCoastHucker]

Originally posted by T-Pirate
Are you trying to indicate that you are not a tool now? Sure.....

Yeah, he's still a tool.........:D

kind of like a :monkey: wrench......:eek:

[Jeremy R]

Originally posted by MMcG
OOOH - ouch that does not look good- not good at all. Was anyone there to witness it? What was the end result to the rider and the bike? I would assume not good on both counts. :( :dead:

Yeah, he must have been real high to land that hard.
I also bet he was smoking coming into that jump as well.

Ha, 2 pot jokes in 2 sentences.:p

[bradical]

Wait a minute... Whose bike is broken again? ::eviltongu :nono: :

Sorry, that was low. :nuts:

Build up the hardrock!

[T-Pirate]

That was below the belt.

[Rik]

The feeling these riders have in the pics is what I feel all the time.
Damn hardtails :dead: pity my thrashed ankles.

[bcd]

one more!

ooooooooooooooph

http://www.transcendmagazine.com/features/red_bull_rampage_2003_gallery1/fullsize_images/Gracia9w.jpg

[b-man]

the visor is designed to direct your forehead into the stem...:dead:

[RhinofromWA]

This guy @ Beacon Bomber Spokane WA was squish'n his bike

link (http://216.229.189.14/pgfx/BeaconDHWeb/400-449/images/55DF4203.jpg)

http://216.229.189.14/pgfx/BeaconDHWeb/400-449/images/55DF4203.jpg

[DHracer1067]

i just got me a nice pic from tonight with my new 5th element shock on. and to whoever asked me to look for other positions for it im pretty sure this is the only one. and to put it in the slack seeting you will have to grind the plate a bit which i think i might do cause i heard of one person doing it before.

heres my pic(s)

[mack]

haha, i can never tell when i bottom, i am 'too caught up in the moment' hehe:D i dont even know if i have the right spring.
i am a 130 pund rider and have a romic shock with a spring of 500 lbs. that right? or way to heavy
:confused:

[FlipFantasia]

the best part about that shot of me doing the glc during the airdh is that I didn't even know I had bottomed out like that until 4-5 days later when miko (fury) came up to me and said "dude, you have to see this sequence shot I got of you" I laughed so hard when I saw it, seriously I didn't notice it one bit and the bike/wheels/tires/whatever were fine.......good job on the trigger miko, you timed that set perfectly! you high skill on the lens no doubt right? ;) I can't wait for this next season....mmmmmm shredding....

[Slacker]

Originally posted by mack
haha, i can never tell when i bottom, i am 'too caught up in the moment' hehe:D

This is why there are so many lesbians around :p

[Fury]

Originally posted by FlipFantasia
the best part about that shot of me doing the glc during the airdh is that I didn't even know I had bottomed out like that until 4-5 days later when miko (fury) came up to me and said "dude, you have to see this sequence shot I got of you" I laughed so hard when I saw it, seriously I didn't notice it one bit and the bike/wheels/tires/whatever were fine.......good job on the trigger miko, you timed that set perfectly! you high skill on the lens no doubt right? ;) I can't wait for this next season....mmmmmm shredding....

I have an internal timer that can sense a sequence and the following frames to within 1/4second. That or I just take a lot of pictures and take out a lot of trash. :D

No more though, got myself a digital rebel and a 512mb card. Now I can shoot even more indiscriminately! :D

[Rik]

The Matrix references go past just the movie itself, and include a homage to overhype and media waffle.

[Fury]

Originally posted by Rik
The Matrix references go past just the movie itself, and include a homage to overhype and media waffle.

I think you're looking for the Red-Pill topic.

[crashing_sux]

Originally posted by zedro
thats why good bikes use linkages, lets you have the best of both worlds :p :D

its the same for a well tuned fork, you'll get most of your travel most of the time; it'll eat whatever travel it needs and not bottom out.

This seems a little contradictory, first you say "good" bikes have linkages to have the best of both worlds, then you bring up that good forks are like that too.

Forks are just shocks running a 1:1 leverage ratio and no linkage, which makes it seem like you are saying if you have a good shock you don't need a linkage to get that feeling.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by crashing_sux
This seems a little contradictory, first you say "good" bikes have linkages to have the best of both worlds, then you bring up that good forks are like that too.

Forks are just shocks running a 1:1 leverage ratio and no linkage, which makes it seem like you are saying if you have a good shock you don't need a linkage to get that feeling.
you're overlooking the fact that forks can and are designed to be very progressive. while this same behavior can be produced in shocks, generally it isn't, as it's cleaner mechanically (and the shock is compatible with a wider range of frame designs) when the shock is straight rate and the frame handles the rising rate duties via a linkage.

[crashing_sux]

Originally posted by Toshi
you're overlooking the fact that forks can and are designed to be very progressive. while this same behavior can be produced in shocks, generally it isn't, as it's cleaner mechanically (and the shock is compatible with a wider range of frame designs) when the shock is straight rate and the frame handles the rising rate duties via a linkage.

Ahh....gotcha now. Didn't realize you were ignoring the existence of Curnutt's, 5th Elements, and Swingers. I guess if you ignore that tiny, tiny, almost unheard of segment of shocks (what decent frame or rider ever used one of these anyway?) you'd be spot on. Personally I like to be able to tune the progressiveness in the shock, both the fork and the rear shock.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by crashing_sux
Ahh....gotcha now. Didn't realize you were ignoring the existence of Curnutt's, 5th Elements, and Swingers. I guess if you ignore that tiny, tiny, almost unheard of segment of shocks (what decent frame or rider ever used one of these anyway?) you'd be spot on. Personally I like to be able to tune the progressiveness in the shock, both the fork and the rear shock.
well, that's the big argument. whether to have a simple frame design and a complex shock, or a simple shock and a linkage. and you seem to have made up your mind already, good for you :rolleyes:

[zedro]

Originally posted by Toshi
well, that's the big argument. whether to have a simple frame design and a complex shock, or a simple shock and a linkage. and you seem to have made up your mind already, good for you :rolleyes:

lol. And i guess i missed the convention that determined Curnutt-esque shocks were the end-all of technology:rolleyes:. I mean, everyone has one right? well at least those trying desperatly to improve their pidely single pivots:p :D

[Rik]

Originally posted by Fury
I think you're looking for the Red-Pill topic.
I'd put money on a database hiccup there... interesting... :confused:

[crashing_sux]

Originally posted by Toshi
well, that's the big argument. whether to have a simple frame design and a complex shock, or a simple shock and a linkage. and you seem to have made up your mind already, good for you :rolleyes:

Quite the opposite, you seem to have made up your mind allready. So far my favorite bikes have been horst link designs with progressive linkages. That's hardly enough to make me close my mind to alternatives though.

Still, I wasn't trying to start that debate as it's been had elsewhere, it just occured to me that it seemed contradictory. When you refer to a "complex" shock you make it sound almost like it's mysterious alien technology, when it needs no more complexity than an air chamber of adjustable volume, the same as virtually every fork out there currently has. Doesn't sound so complex to me. I wasn't referring to curnutt style shocks in every case either, as most forks currently use oil level to adjust progressiveness of the spring which is an entirely different concept than adjusting the progressiveness of the damping.

[crashing_sux]

Awww damn. I just realized I hijacked my first thread. This is a good thread too, I take it all back, let's see more lowrider pics.

[Astrix]

Here is a favorite of Mike Wilson at Red Bull

http://www.astrixsports.com/mike/PB-Mike.jpg

[b-man]

from nsmb.com...

http://www.harookz.com/nsmb/chuckmonster.jpg

:dead:ankles...back...fork...shock...cranks...bb.. .:dead:

[Morgan]

i LOVE this thread... any more pics?

[b-man]

comin' right up...
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=146677

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=146653

[-dustin]

Originally posted by Astrix
Here is a favorite of Mike Wilson at Red Bull

http://www.astrixsports.com/mike/PB-Mike.jpg

what's up with him? i haven't run across any new pics from his dad lately.

[Joe33]

Heres one from our local jumps.

[JAB]

From the swedish site http://www.frostnet.nu

[Cooter Brown]

Originally posted by the Inbred
what's up with him? i haven't run across any new pics from his dad lately.

He's doing missionary work in Seattle I believe

[T-Pirate]

Originally posted by JAB
From the swedish site http://www.frostnet.nu

Exactly why I no longer drop to flat.

[RITFreeRider]

Here's a recent one of me goin all the way down

[heikkihall]

I remember seeing a picture of a Mad Catz rider from when they were still riding Oranges and the bike looked pretty maxed out on its travel.

[Scrub]

Here's one from 03' Fontana Freeride comp. Don't remember his name. Hope it fits.

[Edvard]

Best one of this thread!

[Sir_Crackien]

good forum keep it going. but needs more pics with all of the conversation. i will probibly post a pics soon

[ssaddict]

Originally posted by Edvard
Best one of this thread!

Its a good idea his eyes are closed, that looks like it's going to start hurting real fast.

[I Are Baboon]

Here's me landing a drop (see drop behind me) and bottoming my fork. New fork to be installed for 2004 season.

[profro]

bottom

[bcd]

Originally posted by Edvard
Best one of this thread!

i see his left bar bending!

#1 pic agreed

[T-Pirate]

This is me sometime last year. I had not discovered trannies, or stiffer springs in my fork....

[Threepointtwo]

I just ran across this one and had to post on this thread.

[OGRipper]

Landing

[OGRipper]

This is the jump that came before that prior shot, sorry my low tech brain is still getting this stuff figured out...

BTW this is from a video shot by Chris Q at Sand Hill...met Luc that day...howdy all.

[360]

http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=58874

Jr t and b17

[b-man]

I feel sort of bad that I've been posting many pictures of myself bottoming in this thread :(

http://www.pinkbike.com/m/disk01/pinkbike/photo/pbpic185029.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/m/disk01/pinkbike/photo/pbpic173800.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/m/disk01/pinkbike/photo/pbpic171348.jpg

[downhillzeypher]

Originally posted by Edvard
Best one of this thread!


OMG!!! Are his tires really digging that far into the dirt?!! Poor guy...

PWNED!!!!

[T-Pirate]

I never get landing pictures now that I actually have timing when I shoot. Its too bad, bottom out pictures are always fun.

[esr]

http://www.dropmachine.com/media/showphoto.php?photo=1389&papass=&sort=1&thecat=998

thats me