What is the deal with Salsa Cycles?

[Squeak]

They have changed hands alot lately. Who owns them now?

[Motionboy2]

I don't know who owns them, but they are really doing some cool stuff
http://www.salsacycles.com/images/caballero1.jpghttp://www.salsacycles.com/images/caballero2.jpg
This thing is only 4.3lbs! and retail is pretty damn cheap from what I hear

http://www.salsacycles.com/frames/frames_caballero.html

[recidivist]

Originally posted by Squeak
They have changed hands alot lately. Who owns them now?


I think they're now one of the in-house 'boutique' brands for QBP (along with Surly) now.

Lessee. There was the 'original' Salsa with whats-his-name. Then the 'bought-out' Salsa which some employees moved up to NorCal. Now Minnesota, eh?

On the one hand, it's too bad all their nice frames are made in Asia, probably right next to the Giants and Mongeese. On the other hand, hell $400 for a Scandium frame?

[sub6]

yeap. QBP.

[SuspectDevice]

all the aluminium frames are kineisis built, dunno who exactly build the steel bikes. Ross Shafer was the founder of salsa, he bailed, the company floated, QBP snapped that **** up and now the minneapolis mob is all over that compan like flies on hurl everstone.
I might buy a kinesium cross frame from them. it's cheaper than the redline "scandium frame"

all in all i miss the old salsa, but the new salsa is chee-eep

[Echo]

I used to have a cool Salsa Cycles coffee cup, but I have no idea where it went :(

[Squeak]

QBP? I will look them up.

Too bad, Salsa's A la carte was a frame on my list. I could not get past the down tube cable routing though.

[Squeak]

Is Tektro also QBP?

[ghostrider]

I'm bored today so I think I'll start a suspension debate....

What's the point of putting the pivot above the rear dropout on a 4-bar frame? Doesn't that just make it an unnecessarily complicated single pivot?

[Echo]

I think on a true 4 bar, the pivot is below the dropout.

[mrbigisbudgood]

Originally posted by ghostrider
I'm bored today so I think I'll start a suspension debate....

What's the point of putting the pivot above the rear dropout on a 4-bar frame? Doesn't that just make it an unnecessarily complicated single pivot?

The point of such activity is so you can make a falling rate or rising rate or whatever type of suspension design but still have the single pivot ride characteristics. You can do so by playing with the linkage and shock position. you really don't have that kind of freedom with a true single pivot.

[Motionboy2]

Originally posted by Echo
I think on a true 4 bar, the pivot is below the dropout.

It is above the rear dropout on my Uzzi Sl though..

[Motionboy2]

Originally posted by Squeak
Is Tektro also QBP?

QBP is a distributer for bike shops. It is probably the biggest distributer in the industry. I know that the do sell tektro, however I don't think they manufacture tektro.

J-

[Echo]

Originally posted by Motionboy2
It is above the rear dropout on my Uzzi Sl though..
So it's an older one from before they licensed the Horst Link?

[-BB-]

That frame IS a 4-bar. The links are used to actuate the shock in a specific way that a single pivot might not be able to do. Also might remove some stress(side loads) from the shock.

The HORST has the link on the Chain-stay... the other "single pivot" ones have it on the seat-stay.

[EBasil]

Originally posted by recidivist
On the other hand, hell $400 for a Scandium frame?

Okay, where is this frame $400? :monkey:

[indieboy]

Originally posted by Squeak
QBP? I will look them up.

Too bad, Salsa's A la carte was a frame on my list. I could not get past the down tube cable routing though.


nothing is wrong w/ downtube routing.

[recidivist]

Originally posted by EBasil
Okay, where is this frame $400? :monkey:

Sorry. I pulled that number out of my a$$.

$600 for the Scandium hardtail, $800 for the FS. Still an OK deal for a 'boutique' bike.

[EBasil]

Originally posted by recidivist
Sorry. I pulled that number out of my a$$.


:D Damn it! I thought my browser searching was screwed up or something. :D