XCish tire thread

[Zark]

I've been using WTB Motoraptors 2.4's for my trail riding for a while now. They are burly enough not to flat, but lack bite. I'm looking for a really grippy tread that won't pinch in 2 minutes. So far if I run anything smaller than 2.25" I pinch flat. The terrain here is rocky, dry hardpack with lots of shale and stuff mixed in.

[Orvan]

Panaracers are good...good sidewalls too
Continentals (i like the explorer pros)

but I'd had luck with Michi's WildgripperX 1.95...go figure
So far I've had good luck with my new Tioga Factory 2.1....I ran it as my rear tire racing at Sea Otter... it worked real well despite putting two flat spots on my rear rim (atleast I didn't pinch the tube in the process)...

[The Toninator]

Originally posted by Orven
Panaracers are good...good sidewalls too

I think that's a good choice.

[Echo]

Stan's or UST gets rid of pinch flat problems ;)

[oldfart]

I've been running some Larsen TT tubeless the past couple weeks. Its rained here nearly every day since the beginning of March, seriously. The trails are pretty soupy but I'm staying hooked up really well. They make that tread in a 2.3. I saw some in a wire bead version at the shop the other day. The casing was still racing style supple.

[The Toninator]

Originally posted by oldfart
I've been running some Larsen TT tubeless the past couple weeks. Its rained here nearly every day since the beginning of March, seriously. The trails are pretty soupy but I'm staying hooked up really well. They make that tread in a 2.3. I saw some in a wire bead version at the shop the other day. The casing was still racing style supple.

REally???? cool i'm going to look into those. i've had good luck with the mimo's but looking to try another type and the TT was next.

[LostBoyScout]

Michelin's Comp24 2.2" comes in a 'Lite' format for 2003 that is 850g - a nice option!!

I really love the Maxxis Highroller, which comes in 2.35" Single Ply, I think it was like 795g or something.

Oh, and the Gazzaloddi Core tires comes in a 2.3 that's around 800g too. It's nice.

[Zark]

Originally posted by Echo
Stan's or UST gets rid of pinch flat problems ;)

Stans? I have 521 rims, I've heard I might as well jab hot pokers in my eyes, its cheaper and just as painful:eek: UST would be cool, but I just built my wheels.

Panaracers seem popular, I just wish the sidewall weren't so damn.... red

The comp 24 2.2" lite? Thats very interesting. I hear great stuff about michie rubber. Grippy, good wear life. If the sidewall is tough enough, we have a winner!

[The Toninator]

Originally posted by Zark

Panaracers seem popular, I just wish the sidewall weren't so damn.... red


they come in all colors of the rainbow as long as you just want Red, blue, yellow or black.
http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product.asp?number=39050

[indieboy]

Originally posted by The Toninator
REally???? cool i'm going to look into those. i've had good luck with the mimo's but looking to try another type and the TT was next.

maxxis' xc line up has improved a LOT over the years.the tt's are nice from what i've heard. a buddy of mine works over at maxxis but we are sponsored by hutchinson so i run the pythons. i've run those tires now for years (before they were a sponsor) and they are KILLER tires. would highly recommend those before i'd recommend the TT's only b/c i haven't ridden the TT's and believe me when i tell you that literally everyone has tried to copy the python's basic design and no one has come close to it w/ the exception of michelin.

[The Toninator]

Originally posted by indieboy
maxxis' xc line up has improved a LOT over the years.the tt's are nice from what i've heard. a buddy of mine works over at maxxis but we are sponsored by hutchinson so i run the pythons. i've run those tires now for years (before they were a sponsor) and they are KILLER tires. would highly recommend those before i'd recommend the TT's only b/c i haven't ridden the TT's and believe me when i tell you that literally everyone has tried to copy the python's basic design and no one has come close to it w/ the exception of michelin.
i'm running the python airlites right now and find that they lack a little in dry loose powed sandy rockey stuff. the mimos seems pretty good in those conditions and i would expect the TT's to do better because they have more knobs.
dude get me some comps. i want the ultra light TT excetion 62's in the 2.0".

[indieboy]

Originally posted by The Toninator
i'm running the python airlites right now and find that they lack a little in dry loose powed sandy rockey stuff. the mimos seems pretty good in those conditions and i would expect the TT's to do better because they have more knobs.
dude get me some comps. i want the ultra light TT excetion 62's in the 2.0".

the airlites have a really really thin casing on them that tend to pinch flat a little easier. i think in the dry rocky stuff those tires kick it, just as long as the sand doesn't get to deep then they are fine.

[The Toninator]

Originally posted by indieboy
the airlites have a really really thin casing on them that tend to pinch flat a little easier. i think in the dry rocky stuff those tires kick it, just as long as the sand doesn't get to deep then they are fine.

true all of that. (although i have not had a problem at 38psi and me 140)

now where's my freebee's?

[indieboy]

Originally posted by The Toninator
true all of that. (although i have not had a problem at 38psi and me 140)

now where's my freebee's?

:devil:

[Echo]

Originally posted by Zark
Panaracers seem popular, I just wish the sidewall weren't so damn.... red
:D

[James]

Originally posted by Zark
Panaracers seem popular, I just wish the sidewall weren't so damn.... red

I've got some brand new TrailBlaster's you can have, and they're not red!



They're BLUE


:p :D

[Zark]

:nuts:

Yeah, sweet......:D

[Drunken_Ninja]

what the heck would you use 2.4's for? It takes me like 4 times as long to get to the trail when I put on a 2.25 intense and a 2.1 michellin for mud riding. I am not even sure what you are talking about is xc anymore.

I seriously could not see passing up my maxxis mofo 1.95's for anything right now. absolutely nothing would be able to do what they are doing for me right now.

skinny it down and get a good race tire.

just my thoughts.

[Zark]

Did you not read my post? I PINCH FLAT. 1.95's don't hold air 30 seconds down the trail here. Its really rocky. 2.4's are on the big side, but they are 850g tires, not total pigs. The climbs are very steep and loose and high pressure skinny XC tires just suck here. I know this why? I've ridden these trails for the last decade and have been through many different bike set ups.

Let me clarify further.. I Don't race XC. And the bike I use for XC has to do it all; Slalom, jumping. Thats why I titled it 'XCish'

[reflux]

Originally posted by Zark
I've been using WTB Motoraptors 2.4's

I personally don't care for the Moto 2.4. Have you ever seen/tried the 2.24?

Also, if you ever get the chance, check out the Mutano 2.24; it's a pretty versatile tire.

[Drunken_Ninja]

Originally posted by Zark
Did you not read my post? I PINCH FLAT. 1.95's don't hold air 30 seconds down the trail here. Its really rocky. 2.4's are on the big side, but they are 850g tires, not total pigs. The climbs are very steep and loose and high pressure skinny XC tires just suck here. I know this why? I've ridden these trails for the last decade and have been through many different bike set ups.

Let me clarify further.. I Don't race XC. And the bike I use for XC has to do it all; Slalom, jumping. Thats why I titled it 'XCish'

I think that is called 'all mountain riding' you do. not xc. not even close to xc. different bikes fit tires like that. I am envious really, I got nothing even remotely close to terrain around here.

[Zark]

"All mountain riding"? WTF? That sounds like more marketing jargon than I want to get into. If you ride XC here you tend to run big tires, even full on XC racers sport at least a 2.1, usually bigger up front.

I always figured if you went uphill, its XC. What do I know. I guess tire size dictates what rider you are.......:think:

[Skookum]

I run Panaracer Smoke Classic 2.1 Kevlar on the back of my trail bike. Aggresive tread wide enough not to skip on descents wide enough for mud shedding.
I was told to buy a Continental Vert Pro 2.3 on the net for the front but i've decided from hearing horror stories of local guys i ride with rippin out the sidewalls soooo. I went on the cheap and am gonna give the Performance Roller Pro 2.3 Kevlar a few days in court. We'll see how they work.

[NAUGHTY SHORTY]

I use ritchy motovaders in a 2.4 for similar terrain(sandstone though). At about 800gr ish they're not too heavy and i ride at 30psi with notubes(i'm 100kg).
I've Been riding them for 3 months, no tears in the sidewall, no knobs have been ripped off and no pinch episodes. When climbing you better sit down though as they do lose traction on loose rock when you stand up and place too much weight over the bars,On hardpack climbs no problem. You can spin them around to make them faster with the ramp up design but it doesn't make a huge differance. Worth a look at!.

[Skookum]

The Specialized Roller Pro's have got my confidence. Rode today down wet slick rooty rocky muddy fast and slow curvy etc and it did the job.