Pot

[boostindoubles]

drugs=losers?

caffine is textbook drug, which is highly addictive and habit forming and creates withdrawls in heavy users is abused by practically everyone. your gonna call practically the enitre population of the planet a loser?

and imo, drug testing, military, job, probation, whatever.... is an invasion of privacy and should not be legal. period

and as far as pot is concerned, it is much less harmful than alcohol in all aspects except legal ramifications.doesnt make alot of sense to me. drinking to get drunk is a waste of time and life. i'd rather eat a brownie any day

[binary visions]

and imo, drug testing, military, job, probation, whatever.... is an invasion of privacy and should not be legal. period
:rolleyes:

I'm not even sure where to start with that absurd statement. My blanket response would simply be: if you can't avoid drugs while you're in a situation where you'd be drug tested, then you have an addiction/self-control problem and you may very well fall under Brian's label of a "loser".

Probation: you f'ed up. Now you pay for it. Drug testing while on probation shouldn't even be a question - straighten up and fly right, or go the hell back to jail. Why do you think it's called probation? They closely monitor your behavior to ensure that you're not on a bad road again. If you're doing drugs, you're probably on a bad road.

Military: Suck it up. You joined the military, now you gotta quit doing drugs. Boo hoo.

Jobs: Ahh, I see, so we can let any drug addict with a resume work on your medical devices now, eh? Production work for industries that drug test is usually not very technical and there is a high turnover rate, so they need a generic test to screen out the serious problem people. If you are even remotely aware of your surroundings, you will know that the company you're applying for drug tests: so frickin' quit. Other jobs, such as governmental jobs, hey - you know they're going to happen. Quit doing anything for six months and you'll be fine: do you think you can hold out that long?

I like to think of drug tests as I.Q. tests. If you go to one with drugs in your system, or put yourself in the situation of random drug testing (which, by the way, I don't agree with) with drugs in your system, you've failed the IQ test, moron ("moron" not directed at you, boostin, but at the idiot that failed the test).

[SkaredShtles]

<snip>and as far as pot is concerned, it is much less harmful than alcohol in all aspects except legal ramifications.doesnt make alot of sense to me. drinking to get drunk is a waste of time and life. i'd rather eat a brownie any day
I recently heard a compelling argument *against* the legalization of pot from an ER doc. Her reasoning was that, unlike alcohol, someone impaired by weed can't be easily quantitatively proven to be "under the influence"......... and as an ER doc this scared her in some very pragmatic ways.

-S.S.-

[boostindoubles]

if you can't avoid drugs while you're in a situation where you'd be drug tested, then you have an addiction/self-control problem and you may very well fall under Brian's label of a "loser".

Probation: you f'ed up. Now you pay for it. Drug testing while on probation shouldn't even be a question - straighten up and fly right, or go the hell back to jail. If you're doing drugs, you're probably on a bad road.

Military: Suck it up. You joined the military, now you gotta quit doing drugs. Boo hoo.



I like to think of drug tests as I.Q. tests. If you go to one with drugs in your system, or put yourself in the situation of random drug testing (which, by the way, I don't agree with) with drugs in your system, you've failed the IQ test, moron ("moron" not directed at you, boostin, but at the idiot that failed the test).


hey no offense, and i even found a point to agree with you on. random drug testing is very bad. the main reason i dont like drug testing is not the forced honesty policy, but the tests themselves. To fail a UA for alcohol, you basically have to show up drunk. For speed and opiates(huge number of drugs) you have to be within 3 or 4 days of use to catch it on a UA.

and our ol friend doobie can last up to 3 weeks in a fat lazy heavy smoker. '

so for any half brained moron, you can do all these potentially lethal drugs with little to no fear(if your on top of your ****). while me, if i decide to have a puff one evening, have to watch my diet and exersize for the next 8 days to burn out the THC.

UA's in my opinion are only effective in busting pot smokers. while the coke abusers, tweakers, and smack heads all can slide thru probationary, or workplace UA's with little caution.

and i also agree that anyone who is facing UA's and continues to smoke is just digging a deep, deep hole. Like i said earlier, the legal ramifications of smoking herb are very severe. not rightly so.

many people who abuse drugs do so because of issues in other areas of their life. While someone on probation or in treatment may be having their drug abuse problem addressed, the real problems dont even get brought up, and people still abuse drugs after treatment or probation.

[VA2SLOride]

If you want to smoke herb and it's going to be a consequence-free environment, then who really cares? Wheather its going to be rolling down smooth singletrack or sitting on your couch, its up to you, man....I've been smoking now for well over a decade, and it's totally a state of mind over matter. I graduated college in 4 yrs, made deans list, and started racing all while smoking my ass off. Unless you really get busted or are just a complete retard about it, IMHO, it's all good.

Just ask Peter Tosh.

[binary visions]

To fail a UA...
...alcohol, you basically have to show up drunk...
...speed and opiates(huge number of drugs) you have to be within 3 or 4 days of use...
...doobie can last up to 3 weeks...
I agree that it seems a little skewed that the most inane of drugs is the easiest to catch on a drug test, but I just have to take the hard approach and say that drug tests are not suprises. You will never be drug tested in your life without some kind of warning - whether it's an actual warning that a drug test is coming, or simply knowing that the place you're applying at or situation you're putting yourself in requires a drug test.

Therefore, they're easy to pass - suck it up and quit for a while. Especially for something like weed whose addiction is strictly psychological.

I recently heard a compelling argument *against* the legalization of pot from an ER doc. Her reasoning was that, unlike alcohol, someone impaired by weed can't be easily quantitatively proven to be "under the influence"......... and as an ER doc this scared her in some very pragmatic ways.
That's interesting... I wonder if the issue is simply that nobody has developed a test for it yet, since it's an illegal substance?

However, I don't see that as a particularly compelling argument. Many of the negative effects of weed are the same effects of extreme tiredness (slowed reaction time, difficulty paying attention, inclination to fall asleep), and you can't quantitatively measure how tired someone is, either.

Measuring the extent to which someone is drunk is important and has ramifications on the person's behavior that could be dangerous to people around them (i.e. they could be violent, or irrational), not to mention determining how close they are to going into a coma or dying. With someone who's extremely baked, the worst you get is a tendancy to be incoherant or appear tired, and you can't effectively smoke yourself to death.

The only place where I can see a problem with weed is when driving, coming up with a measurement to determine the point at which someone is "intoxicated" - and I would again wonder if it's simply that nobody has devoted resources to coming up with such a test.

[llkoolkeg]

Blunts are for wankers.

Tobacco + weed = :dead:

I used to think the same way; now my opinion is mixed.

RE: Blunts, you get what you pay for. If you buy a cheap cigar- one that has an artificial binder like a Phillies, you might as well pack it with commercial grade because the crappy wrapper and binder ruin the taste anyways. If you use a fine quality cigar and a fine quality ganja, it can be a very pleasant experience. I personally prefer buying fresh pressed tobacco leaves by the 10-count and rolling them around KB sift for my spliffs.

In Amsterdam, most of the locs roll their blunts(actually, spliffs) 50/50 tobacco:weed. I didn't like the taste of that no matter how many times I tried it. I did meet this nice older Turkish gentleman at Lucky Mothers, though, who rolled me a spliff of black Turkish tobacco(fresh, not stale) which he combined with hashish he fluffed off his personal egg-sized stash. Now that was nice.

Overall, my favorite spliff was one I made with two doublewide papers that I loaded up with Bubbleberry and sprinkled with nederhash and Scottish bluecap flakes before sealing it up. I was blasted to the stratospere off that one and it tasted great.

[VA2SLOride]

That sounds deeeeeee-lish. Fredneck Md? Former VA guy here.

[SkaredShtles]

If you want to smoke herb and it's going to be a consequence-free environment, then who really cares? <snip>
Well, that could be said about anything - coke, crack, smack........ problem is, we don't live in a "consequence-free environment."

-S.S.-

[VA2SLOride]

As long as we can experiment with multiple sexual partners and mind-expanding drugs in a consequence-free environment, I'll be sound as a pound, baby....

-A.P.-


And throw in a sweet downhill to boot

[llkoolkeg]

That sounds deeeeeee-lish. Fredneck Md? Former VA guy here.

It was. The best tasting one I've had in the past year was rolled with a little BC love called Romulan X Chemo.

Fredneck is what Frederick is affectionately called by those taken aback by its large population of hillbillies.

Me too. I got sick of the traffic and poor riding in Arlington, Alexandria, Annandale, Fairfax, Springfield, etc. and all the other holes where I lived so I moved up where the congestion is less and the riding better. Had I been able to find a decent-paying job in Radford/Blacksburg/Christiansburg after college, I'd still be living there.

[SDminitrucker]

have any of you guys tried salvia? Its a drug still legal. Search for it online

[Repack]

If you want to smoke herb and it's going to be a consequence-free environment, then who really cares? Wheather its going to be rolling down smooth singletrack or sitting on your couch, its up to you, man....I've been smoking now for well over a decade, and it's totally a state of mind over matter. I graduated college in 4 yrs, made deans list, and started racing all while smoking my ass off. Unless you really get busted or are just a complete retard about it, IMHO, it's all good.

Just ask Peter Tosh.
I just earned a darn nice GPA this semester with plenty of THC in my system also. I am not a wake-and-bake person, but it is a nice way to cap of a hectic day, or just to relax WHEN PRUDENT.

[boostindoubles]

have any of you guys tried salvia? Its a drug still legal. Search for it online

one fat bong toke of the 10x salvia extract sent my mind bending for about 20 minutes. It was sketch and intense

[lonewolfe]

What's a 10X Saliva extract? Do you mean a 10X Sativa extract? Which ever it is, what is it? Never heard of it.

[boostindoubles]

not marijuana, but some other wacky plant!

[stringcheese]

Salvia Divornium. There's stronger extracts than 10X available.

[genpowell71]

I just earned a darn nice GPA this semester with plenty of THC in my system also. I am not a wake-and-bake person, but it is a nice way to cap of a hectic day, or just to relax WHEN PRUDENT.


Good job on the GPA.

[arboc!]

it just dumped like 9 in of snow here and nothing compairs of smoking and sleding.... exsept maybe drinking and sleding, that will be tonight.

[SkaredShtles]

<snip> nothing compairs of somking and sleding.... exsept maybe drinking and sleding, that will be tonight.
:rolleyes: Except perhaps sex? Or powder skiing?

I prefer to do those unaltered.......... no need in dulling the experience with intoxication.

:D

-S.S.-

[T-Pirate]

Blunts are for wankers.

Tobacco + weed = :dead:


Blunts are all right. I don't know how to roll them, and I can't buy cigars, so I never smoke them. I really like bubblers and bongs, but I can't own one because I have no place to hide it. I usually smoke from smaller glass pieces.

I bought the best bud I've ever had last week....then I got caught saturday and had to get rid of it. unfortunate.

[SkaredShtles]

<snip>
I bought the best bud I've ever had last week....then I got caught saturday and had to get rid of it. unfortunate.
Friendly advice: it's probably a bad idea to admit this sort of stuff on a public forum.............

It could come back to haunt you.

If you don't care, then by all means carry on.

-S.S.-

[T-Pirate]

I thought you guys might appreciate some macro work.

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/9744/nonbike106s.jpg

http://img158.exs.cx/img158/773/nonbike105s.jpg


Just thought these were kind of cool and didn't want to get yelled at in the lounge for posting them.

[Ciaran]

I thought you guys might appreciate some macro work.

Just thought these were kind of cool and didn't want to get yelled at in the lounge for posting them.
Very nice. I prefer a 2 foot glass water pipe myself (Shhhh! don't say BONG! :D ). I try to keep it super clean and change the water often. I find pipes to be a bit on the harsh side, though I di value their convenience, I want to give a vaporizor a try, anyone used them? What do you think?

Not sure you can get busted for posting in a forum that you aquired some pot. Now if you were running around saying that you were GROWING pot, then yeah, that would be stupid. I think LEO has better things to do than monitor a bike forum for hippy kids who have a little pot.

[T-Pirate]

Not sure you can get busted for posting in a forum that you aquired some pot. Now if you were running around saying that you were GROWING pot, then yeah, that would be stupid. I think LEO has better things to do than monitor a bike forum for hippy kids who have a little pot.

Agreed, I'm more worried about people preaching about my life turning into a sesspool of crime and drug usage because I smoke pot.

I really like "2 foot water pipes" but with the parental issue I reallly can't rock anything bigger than my current piece....MAYBE sometime I'll get a nice bubbler but probably bats and bowls untill college for now.

[arboc!]

yeah thats the same story for me.... a peice is just easier to hide

[Ciaran]

Ahhh you guys have inspired me now... I am going to have a big fat bowl and go ride some urban. :thumb:

[boostindoubles]

i take my chillum out on bike rides and for mobile toking. its one of my favorite pieces. gonna get some use real quick now. time for a ride

[T-Pirate]

i take my chillum out on bike rides and for mobile toking. its one of my favorite pieces. gonna get some use real quick now. time for a ride


I love smoking on rides. Today I brought my piece in my camelbak and toked it in the woods, it was a fun ride.

[lovebunny]

i had a lil bullrider last week. my 1st time in over a year. yeah man it was nice

[TN]

I find pipes to be a bit on the harsh side, though I di value their convenience, I want to give a vaporizor a try, anyone used them? What do you think?
.

vaporizors are awesome. we tried a Volcano several times while in Amsterdam & loved it. The taste is soooo nice, your lungs dont burn, you dont hack up nasty lugees, you dont get that burnt out feeling, & the high is astounding. It is strictly head high, even with potent indicas. I think I got the highest I have ever been after trying a big bag of MK Ultra. The only problem with the Volcano is the cost, $550!! :eek: But with the valve set only you can use a good heat gun & get the same results. you can also make one out of a light bulb. It is nice & effective but kinda crunchy looking. We will be switching to strictly vaping when we get some $$$ saved.


its just a flower.
http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/188/188219/folders/182534/1415320IMG3919.jpg

mmmmmm.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/188/188219/folders/182534/1415321IMG3906.jpg

[genpowell71]

Ahhh you guys have inspired me now... I am going to have a big fat bowl and go ride some urban. :thumb:

YOur going to smoke a spliffer and then go ride a bike? Is that really a good idea especially if your riding urban?

[boostindoubles]

YOur going to smoke a spliffer and then go ride a bike? Is that really a good idea especially if your riding urban?

of course you gotta know your limits.

i'd like to get a volcano or vapor bro's, if i was going to drop $ on one.

[Repack]

I hit a home-made vaporizer a while back that worked well. It relied on a soldering iron for the heat and a stainless steel bowl on the tip. It was like breathing hot air that tasted like unburnt weed. Very smmoth.

[ZmanONmaryJ]

haha if u cant see by my name, im a stoner at heart! i love the herb... but i dont do drugs!!!!! just mary J! thats important to know!

[Ciaran]

YOur going to smoke a spliffer and then go ride a bike? Is that really a good idea especially if your riding urban?
Wow. You're right. I better sit here on the couch and watch a "stoner movie" instead. If I go outside I might hurt myself. :rolleyes:

I think I have enough experience to know my own limits. Go have some kids so you can have someone to preach to and tell what to do.

[T-Pirate]

I love riding high. At the risk of sounding like the dirtiest stoner ever, I think it can really intensify the feeling of flying through the woods on a trail or the thrill of hitting a stairgap or pinning a wallride on herban rides. I have to be in a certain mindset to do it, but I like it.

[mack]

I love riding high. At the risk of sounding like the dirtiest stoner ever, I think it can really intensify the feeling of flying through the woods on a trail or the thrill of hitting a stairgap or pinning a wallride on herban rides. I have to be in a certain mindset to do it, but I like it.

I think that pot doesnt affect your motor skills at all really. I smoke on the DH lift allot w/o any ill affects other than smelling.

[boostindoubles]

i think i'm gonna work on those back tire hop pedal kick thingys. i can almost do that hop fwd. on my back tire. its all in letting the bike start to fall fwd, then pedal kick and pull up a bit, and you should then hop forward. at least thats what seems to be working and how i was told.

anyways i gotta go ride now

peace

[ZmanONmaryJ]

hahaha tomm is gonna be great hittin trails and ****!!! a can let u guess why it is gonna be better than any usual trip????

[Ciaran]

hahaha tomm is gonna be great hittin trails and ****!!! a can let u guess why it is gonna be better than any usual trip????
Dude! You smoked too much! You smoked your grammer away!

I am hittin the streets of Pasadena again tonight. I will toke one for the Monkeys before I hit the first set of stairs! No matter how old you get, cops and security guards will chase you away shouting, "Get outta here you damn kids!" It's funny when I take my helmet off and the guy realizes that I am older than him. :thumb:

It may not make me ride any better, but it sure makes the ride more enjoyable. :D

[ZmanONmaryJ]

Dude! You smoked too much! You smoked your grammer away!

I am hittin the streets of Pasadena again tonight. I will toke one for the Monkeys before I hit the first set of stairs! No matter how old you get, cops and security guards will chase you away shouting, "Get outta here you damn kids!" It's funny when I take my helmet off and the guy realizes that I am older than him. :thumb:

It may not make me ride any better, but it sure makes the ride more enjoyable. :D

Damn, Andrew was right... i have problems with tenses and stuff.... guess i finally did smoke myself retarded, i didnt even notice, till u said something!

[Ciaran]

I had some nice hash the other night. Anyone else like hash? What's your preferred method? Ever done anything silly like "hot knives", "hash under glass", etc?

[arboc!]

i bought a dub on friday..... big ass buds.... fun night :heart: :D

[Repack]

I had some nice hash the other night. Anyone else like hash? What's your preferred method? Ever done anything silly like "hot knives", "hash under glass", etc?
I've done the hot knife/glass bottle method, but it was a pain in the ass. I have a soapstone pipe that oworks well for it b/c the hole is in the side of it. Using a "crack torch" at a safe distance leads to very good results. Have only tried hash a couple of times. Din't see it ever around here.

[hitek]

I'm enjoying some of this right now. :drool:
http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7623/polecat0gl.jpg

[TN]

I had some nice hash the other night. Anyone else like hash? What's your preferred method? Ever done anything silly like "hot knives", "hash under glass", etc?

mmmm....isolator....... :drool:

I'm enjoying some of this right now. :drool:
http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7623/polecat0gl.jpg

mmmm....trichomes... :drool:

[T-Pirate]

I'm enjoying some of this right now. :drool:
http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7623/polecat0gl.jpg

wow....

[DHracer1067]

I'm enjoying some of this right now. :drool:
http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7623/polecat0gl.jpg



:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :DROOL:

thats alot better than any of the stuff ive gotten

[J.R]

I'm enjoying some of this right now. :drool:
http://img114.exs.cx/img114/7623/polecat0gl.jpg


**** son id that really yours? or did you fing that online?, also how much does an 1/8 of that **** go for

[DHracer1067]

around here it would probly go for like $50

[llkoolkeg]

Now THAT is some nice looking doobage. Note the ridiculous frosting of capitate stalked trichomes. It was harvested dead ripe, is well manicured, has fully withered stigmas, looks to be cured well and the first hit or two would probably taste like hash due to the high gland content. Whoever bought that bought it right from the grower or is perhaps but once removed. You don't get buds that look like that when the bags have gone through two or three levels of handling and pinching.

As far as hashish mentioned on the previous page, the type is the best determinant of smoking method. The "under the glass" method is showy crap. Softer, hand-pressed hashes are best smoked by tearing off a tiny piece, pressing it into a small disc and then smoking it in a glass pipe w/ metal screen. Harder hashes must be cut(I used to use an exacto knife) and rolled flat(I used the barrel of the exacto knife) prior to smoking in a glass bowl w/metal screen. Kif or unpressed hashish is best sprinkled into a joint or onto a glass bowl full of KB. If you have one, vaporizers are also excellent for hash smoking, leaving next to no residue afterwards.

[llkoolkeg]

around here it would probly go for like $50

$50US? For how much- an eighth? Even so, that would be an excellent price. KB of that quality would normally go for $60/eighth in the states or $20EU/gm in the Netherlands. If you pay $50/eighth in the states, you're getting a friendly hookup.

[hitek]

That bud is $110 half oz, $60 a 1/4 oz, $35 for an eighth.
I got it from a good buddy who got it from a grower so I didn't really get charged. :thumb:
I'm not sure if "polecat" is the actual strain but it does smell very skunky and sweet at the same time.
It does taste like hash with the first few hits and it keeps most of its flavor the whole way through a joint... 1g of that wrapped in a rizla silver that was slicked with BHO got 4 of us straight couchlocked for a few hours.

My favorite way of smoking hash is with a glass piece and a screen, I wish I had some more of that FMCD master kush bubble hash that my friend made... a small chunk of that will get you happy for hours.

I can't wait until I can get these ****in'incredibleXblackberry beans germinating, should be some fine smoke. :)

llkoolkeg, you wouldn't happen to be a member at overgrow.com would you?

[Ciaran]

I would caution against posting prices or photos here. Posting prices and where you got it from is never good. You begin to tip toe over lines, and the mods have already expressed displeasure for this thread. I would hate to see it go the way of the S.A. forum.

And were you in the U.S. I would also caution against proclaiming that you are growing, :nono: but B.C. may not be as harsh as the U.S. so no biggie I guess.

That said, you have some nice looking herb there. "Polecat" is not a strain I have heard of before. Any knowledge as to her genetics? And 35 and eigth is a great price.

I use OG dot com all the time... great site :thumb:

[llkoolkeg]

That bud is $110 half oz, $60 a 1/4 oz, $35 for an eighth.
I got it from a good buddy who got it from a grower so I didn't really get charged. :thumb:
I'm not sure if "polecat" is the actual strain but it does smell very skunky and sweet at the same time.
It does taste like hash with the first few hits and it keeps most of its flavor the whole way through a joint... 1g of that wrapped in a rizla silver that was slicked with BHO got 4 of us straight couchlocked for a few hours.

My favorite way of smoking hash is with a glass piece and a screen, I wish I had some more of that FMCD master kush bubble hash that my friend made... a small chunk of that will get you happy for hours.

I can't wait until I can get these ****in'incredibleXblackberry beans germinating, should be some fine smoke. :)

llkoolkeg, you wouldn't happen to be a member at overgrow.com would you?

What incredible prices. I don't ever buy, but I'd certainly reconsider it did I live near you! If you grow, it's what you know; if you buy, it's who you know.

I'm not a member of any such community because I no longer do such things. When I was into all of that, I was in college and not married. Such things are just not cool with a wife(who has never even tried it) and obviously, having kids forbids it. Why torture myself by hanging out in a bakery while on a low-carb diet, you know. :(

Pole Cat(Sagarmatha Seeds, Amsterdam):
Type Indica - Sativa, indoor / outdoor
Flowering 45-50 days
Average height 0.75-1m
Yield 325-375 grams/m2

A pungent plant for lovers of a fast, bountiful harvest, fragrant tops and a strong stone.

Indoor. - Order code: SG13 - £50

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Price Each: £50.00

[Ciaran]

It's been many moons since I had a garden going as well... no kids here, but a 1 br apartment with a non smoking GF do not lend themselves to gardening.

Sagarmatha Seeds does put out some nice stuff. I wish I was able to grow so I could try some of the new strains that have come out. Some of those mostly sativa I/S crosses are very nice.

I am currently working through some hash, which is very nice. I am liking the fact that there is no plant material to burn and smoke. It tastes much cleaner.

Dang, we should all get together for a "Pot Thread Monkey Fest"! Everyone meet at my place!

[arboc!]

long weekend starting today, and some fat buds :drool: :drool:

[T-Pirate]

I got some nugs with purple in them last night at a Keller Williams show. I am excited.

[arboc!]

i smoked today, and went riding, and i learned to do table tops, there almost all the way flat, who would of thought that i would learn any thing

[stringcheese]

Things are boring around here, I'm gonna spark up the sunday mornin' bowl in a few minutes. And by minutes I actually mean seconds.

[The Kadvang]

MaRiJuAnA

[McT]

well... i actually read the whole thread... and im i think im gonna try weed to see what its like... any advice?

[arboc!]

have fun... and relax.... :drool:

[arboc!]

also.. if you buy... buy from a real dealer, or someone who knows one, because if you buy it from the "stoner kid" youll get ****ed, because they'll smoke half your weed then give it to you

[Repack]

well... i actually read the whole thread... and im i think im gonna try weed to see what its like... any advice?
Whatever your method, be gentle! I sucks to scorch your throat. H2O pipes can be deceptive. Everything seems all nice until you are rolling aorund on your back coughing until you cry. Then you realize how f-ed up you are and that doesn't seem to matter so much.

[quadricolour]

well... i actually read the whole thread... and im i think im gonna try weed to see what its like... any advice?

How old are you? I know it sounds corny, but I really regret starting too young.

[Repack]

How old are you? I know it sounds corny, but I really regret starting too young.
Dito that. Its easy to get carried away with. Moderation is everything.

[llkoolkeg]

well... i actually read the whole thread... and im i think im gonna try weed to see what its like... any advice?

Don't. It costs money(especially for the good stuff), can land you in jail, can be a demotivating influence if you don't have your act together and basically isn't healthy. That being said, I wish all the stoner monkeys weren't so far away; it makes Red-Eyed Monkey Fests a logistical nightmare and limits my mooching possibilities. :)

[McT]

Dito that. Its easy to get carried away with. Moderation is everything.

16...

when i say i want to try it, to simply means try. once or twice kinda deal. ive got a pretty good friend who smokes almost everday who said he'd help me out my first time. i seriously doubt i'll do it alot, since ive got the whole texas state championship defending thing going on right now. plus, ive tried cigs before, 3 or 4 times, then made myself quit... so im not too worried about getting carried away.

[arboc!]

try it, but just remember its not for every one...

[Ciaran]

Don't. It costs money(especially for the good stuff), can land you in jail, can be a demotivating influence if you don't have your act together and basically isn't healthy. That being said, I wish all the stoner monkeys weren't so far away; it makes Red-Eyed Monkey Fests a logistical nightmare and limits my mooching possibilities. :)
:stupid:

Be careful. MODERATION is the key when you start young. Many a stoner burnout started off as an A student. (Yeah, including me)

That said.... West Coast So Cal Red-Eyed Monkey Fest! Who's interisted? Who's close? I am in Pasadena. If you are close PM me!

Edit: well... i actually read the whole thread... and im i think im gonna try weed to see what its like... any advice?

Wait a minute... you read the WHOLE THREAD!? Are you sure you're not high already?

[boostindoubles]

i wont condone anyone under the age of 18 smoking a doobie.

here a homie deal is 10 bucks a gram. 40 an 8th standard and 50 is for the notch smoke.

[VA2SLOride]

I had some nice hash the other night. Anyone else like hash? What's your preferred method? Ever done anything silly like "hot knives", "hash under glass", etc?

Knife hits.....good stuff. Reminds me of college, my roommates and I sitting around the stove with butter knives stuck in the burners to heat them up and then toking out of a piece of notebook paper rolled into a cone. Good stuff. Hash is great and has provided me with some of the best psudo-memories of my life..... :thumb: :D

[Fathead]

16...

when i say i want to try it, to simply means try. once or twice kinda deal. ive got a pretty good friend who smokes almost everday who said he'd help me out my first time. i seriously doubt i'll do it alot, since ive got the whole texas state championship defending thing going on right now. plus, ive tried cigs before, 3 or 4 times, then made myself quit... so im not too worried about getting carried away.

T,

You don't know me, but I know who you are. As someone > twice your age, I've committed my share of sins, and I work in your town. So I'm gonna get in your business here. You're gonna make your own decisions, and they're your responsibility. But don't talk about any illegal activites or other indiscretions on the Internet. There are a lot of lurkers. Your name, your team, and a lot else about you are pretty easy to figure out.

BTW good luck w/your racing. You've flown by me before and I hope to see you do it again.

[binary visions]

But don't talk about any illegal activites or other indiscretions on the Internet. There are a lot of lurkers. Your name, your team, and a lot else about you are pretty easy to figure out.
Busted.

Seriously, though, this is good advice for EVERYONE here, but mostly those who are under 18 and/or still living with their parents, or in a community, or are actively racing.

When you start talking about stuff like this on the internet, all it takes is one guy who stumbles on the site and notices that he knows you, to have the whole town/community nail you as a pothead.

The older you get, the less likely people will talk about you or even care, but the fact is, if you're racing on a team, you have to be a good example. Fathead sounds like he's being a pretty good guy and just warning you, but what if he were an anonymous lurker who loves to gossip? Someone casually mentions to your dad/teammate/teacher that he heard somewhere that you might...

Just something to keep in mind.

[-BB-]

well... i actually read the whole thread... and im i think im gonna try weed to see what its like... any advice?

If you are trying it b/c of anything said in this thread, that is a stupid reason to try it. Trying it at 16 is also not smart.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing to do in general... along the lines of alcohol... but if you tried alcohol at 16 b/c of what people said on here, that would be stupid too.
:stupid: :nono:

That being said, if you make up your OWN mind to do it, then I have no problem with that. Just don't do it b/c of something you read on some website somewhere.
:evil:

[bballboy388]

thats impossible because now what u said is gonna be in the back of the kids mind forever so every time someone askes him if he wants to smoke hes gonna think i have to make up my own mind like that guy said. but thats really not making up ur own mind cause it what u said to do!

[binary visions]

thats impossible because now what u said is gonna be in the back of the kids mind forever so every time someone askes him if he wants to smoke hes gonna think i have to make up my own mind like that guy said. but thats really not making up ur own mind cause it what u said to do!
Ahh, yeah, that's right. Everyone takes what people in these forums tells them, and keeps it in the back of their mind forever...

[genpowell71]

If you are trying it b/c of anything said in this thread, that is a stupid reason to try it. Trying it at 16 is also not smart.

I'm not saying that it is a bad thing to do in general... along the lines of alcohol... but if you tried alcohol at 16 b/c of what people said on here, that would be stupid too.
:stupid: :nono:

That being said, if you make up your OWN mind to do it, then I have no problem with that. Just don't do it b/c of something you read on some website somewhere.
:evil:

To make a long story short, do it because you want to not because you listened to anyone in here

[goodtobeIrie]

16...

when i say i want to try it, to simply means try. once or twice kinda deal. ive got a pretty good friend who smokes almost everday who said he'd help me out my first time. i seriously doubt i'll do it alot, since ive got the whole texas state championship defending thing going on right now. plus, ive tried cigs before, 3 or 4 times, then made myself quit... so im not too worried about getting carried away.

Don't touch the stink whistles!!!!!!!!!!!!!...(cigs)...they'll suck the life out of ya...now herbles on the other hand...well, I'm not gonna tell someone under 18 to try it...but if you're gonna smoke something...better the herb than the gretters...but there's plenty of time in life for everything...

[sugarbushrider1]

I've read this post for a real long time and most of you seem the way I am about this issue. I think pot's straight if you do it in moderation. I have two aunts, ones a pot-head who does nothing but smokes and ones an alcoholic. Both have ****ty lives. I dont buy anyone who says pots not that bad for ya, cuz I can only think what damage a hot burning joint is on your lungs. I should also add that I never touched cigs... theyre just beat... buttt a good cigar is really hard to resist from time to time. What I want to know is the truth on how bad marijuana truely is for ya? I can never really get a straight answer. Some say a joint is 6 cigarettes, other say its not worse for you then breathing around a campfire. I think theyre both full of ****... but i wont know for sure till someone i trust sets it straight.
I love puffin', but I dont know about you guys, I get tired as Sh!t. Most of the times unless Im by myself or with 1 or two friends ill choose beer over weed any day.

[formermtboarder]

three words;
BONG YOUR WEED

[arboc!]

yes!!!

[sugarbushrider1]

BTW does anyone of you "more experianced" knwo why the 1st and 2nd time i smoked i tweeked out completely, but after that it was all good?

[Ciaran]

If you are looking for reliable information on how harmful it is then try looking at scholarly journals, particularly medical or scientific journals. Your local college or university library will have what you are looking for. Don't listen to pot heads or cops or doctors. You're going to find a ton of misinformation when it comes to the truth about pot and you'll need to be able to see through the BS. And research MANY sources, not just one or two. Good luck.

And as others have said already... Bong It! It cleaner and tastier. :thumb:

[goodtobeIrie]

BTW does anyone of you "more experianced" knwo why the 1st and 2nd time i smoked i tweeked out completely, but after that it was all good?

my guessalogic tells me that it might be your brain had a hard time understanding/accepting THC for your virgin experience and the time thereafter (using those receptors for the first time)...after that your brain realized how good the feeling of MJ was and decided to sit back and enjoy...

[T-Pirate]

It took me a solid 5 smokes before the first time I really got stoned. You kind of feel like you do until you realize what it's really like, once you get used to it. I've cut down a lot lately and I feel a lot less worthless, but mostly its because its too stressful to try to cover it up all the time. Weed is a ton more fun if you AREN'T doing it so often. If you smoke just once or twice a week you get A LOT more high without smoking yourself retarded. I smoke almost excluisively when riding these days. I love it.

[boostindoubles]

the reason smoking cigs causes so much cancer is the fertilizer's the tobacco farmers use. they use cheap commerical ferts, that are actually radioactive. puff that and its gonna be cancer for sure.

i think if pot was legal, less people would smoke it, and more would try eating it. The biggest reason people smoke weed is because its so damn expensive. tossing a half ounce into a cake mix isnt that feasible for most potheads. so we load bowls and get toasted, much cheaper than eating it.

most all negative consequences stem from pots illegality. granted, it is habit forming, and maybe even down right addicting to some people, but theres lots of substances that are addictive and widely accepted. (sugar, caffine, booze, nicotine)

i say to each his own, with respect to others around you.

and also no pot is alike. one bag will have different effects than the next. it all depends on how well it was grown, the strain, and the drying/harvest process.

maybe the first two times you smoked it was some crazy ass buds, and the next times it wasnt so crazy of a sachel.

[sugarbushrider1]

makes sense...

[goodtobeIrie]

the reason smoking cigs causes so much cancer is the fertilizer's the tobacco farmers use. they use cheap commerical ferts, that are actually radioactive. puff that and its gonna be cancer for sure.


also tabacco as a plant actually soaks up the radioactive material in the soil and the air...causing it to have even more than from just the fertilizers...it's picking up all the toxins that were buried and just dumped in the earlier days...yummy huh?? :drool:

[valve bouncer]

BTW does anyone of you "more experianced" knwo why the 1st and 2nd time i smoked i tweeked out completely, but after that it was all good?
When I haven't been on the pipe for a while I always get the paranoids. I've come to accept it now as I don't smoke regularly. It is a depressant, but learn to handle it and you'll be fine. The downer is always made up for in spades by the upper in my experience.

[McT]

T,

You don't know me, but I know who you are. As someone > twice your age, I've committed my share of sins, and I work in your town. So I'm gonna get in your business here. You're gonna make your own decisions, and they're your responsibility. But don't talk about any illegal activites or other indiscretions on the Internet. There are a lot of lurkers. Your name, your team, and a lot else about you are pretty easy to figure out.

BTW good luck w/your racing. You've flown by me before and I hope to see you do it again.

oh snap... i have no clue who you are. yes yes, i know about the dangers of the internet, but in this case, i frankly dont really care. I've already decided to try to participate in the racing for my team as much as I can, but because of money issues, im not going to be able to. I already know what the outcomes of my actions are going to be, and i've already excepted them. if anyone dosent beleive me, because im too young or stupid, PM me and i'll explain more. i guess i think differently.

Down to the other stuff... i tried it today... it kinda made things more fun, i guess. couldnt ride in a strait line for a while until it kinda wore off. i dont really plan on doing it that often... i honestly didnt really even feel that much different. for about an hour, i did feal fearless... then i shined the crap out of myself and went home.

was it worth it? i guess... one of those things you have to experiance yourself..
would i do it again? meh... it was cool, but it wasnt THAT great. maybe in a few months, but not now.

oh, and fathead, say something about RM next time you see me, dude.

[yeehaarider]

gravity bongs...sooo bad for you, but if you want to get stoned off your ass in a couple minutes....it will get the job done, just a 2 liter bottle, a bucket, fill the bucket with water, cut the 2 liter bottle at the bottom where the line is, poke a hole in the cap, wrap tin foil in a funnel, stick it in the hole in the cap, close cap on bottle, stick bottle up to the cap in the water, stick weed in the funnel, light, and pull the bottle up, it sucks the smoke in the bottle, almost a pure white smoke cloud inside the bottle....once the bottle is pulled up to the edge of the water, unscrew the cap, put mouth on the bottle, and push down in the water, it crams all that pure white smoke up in to your lungs, and gets you faded off your ass...my fav

[Ciaran]

gravity bongs...sooo bad for you, but if you want to get stoned off your ass in a couple minutes....it will get the job done, just a 2 liter bottle, a bucket, fill the bucket with water, cut the 2 liter bottle at the bottom where the line is, poke a hole in the cap, wrap tin foil in a funnel, stick it in the hole in the cap, close cap on bottle, stick bottle up to the cap in the water, stick weed in the funnel, light, and pull the bottle up, it sucks the smoke in the bottle, almost a pure white smoke cloud inside the bottle....once the bottle is pulled up to the edge of the water, unscrew the cap, put mouth on the bottle, and push down in the water, it crams all that pure white smoke up in to your lungs, and gets you faded off your ass...my fav

Oh Man! I forgot about those! I used to use a gallon milk jug though. The handle was a nice feature. I have to do some of those soon. Thanks for reminding me about them. :thumb:

[Repack]

Don't touch the stink whistles!!!!!!!!!!!!!...(cigs)...they'll suck the life out of ya...now herbles on the other hand...well, I'm not gonna tell someone under 18 to try it...but if you're gonna smoke something...better the herb than the gretters...but there's plenty of time in life for everything...
Exactly!!! STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM CIGS! I quit, and it sucked. It took me three years. The problem is that they suck you in without you ever realizing that you were getting hooked. Once you realize you are hooked, its too late. I started in college. I would bum one from a friend while drinking. I am sure its a similar story to most people. All of the ex-smokers I know have the same POV: You are either a smoker or you are not. One a day still means you smoke.
I mention this as a warning and b/c it relates to the direction of this thread. This is the first time I have mentioned smoking in a bike site. I did it only to prevent someone from starting down the same path that I did when I was in high school. IMHO, trying a butt is like trying Coke or H (I haven't done either). There just isn't any reason. But anyway, weed is nowhere near as bad as butts are as far as damage to your lungs goes. My guess is that the negative info on pot smoking is a 1 to 1 hit/drag comparrison. Problem is that you will never take as many hits of pot as drags off of a butt. But burning stuff of any sort in your lungs is still bad.

[Ciaran]

Just thought I would bump the best thread ever back up to the top...

Oh man, I BROKE my GLASS! ACK! I am sooo bummed because she isn't even a year old. A nice thick two footer. She was sitting on my desk and I turned around in my chair and just caught her with my elbow and sent her to the floor. Fortunately only the glass base broke so the tube is still intact. I can use her, but I can't set her down.

Oh well, I guess it's time to go to the head shop.

[boostindoubles]

man i know what you mean ciaran.

last week some friends and i took a road trip to moab. on the way down i stepped out of my cab and my pipe was in my lap! she hit the ground before i even knew what was happening. the carb hit first and now is 3 times as big as before.

[goodtobeIrie]

you just gotta search and find the right pipe...I've got this pipe that a friend actually bought for a replacement of another one he broke...I've done the same thing as you like 100 times with this pipe...no joke...and most of them have been done out of a jacked up toyota onto the concrete...nothing's happened to the pipe so far...

Man I always forget the pipe inbetween the legs when I get out...someday I'll remember...probably be when the pipe breaks on it's last jump out of the truck... :p

[Repack]

you just gotta search and find the right pipe...I've got this pipe that a friend actually bought for a replacement of another one he broke...I've done the same thing as you like 100 times with this pipe...no joke...and most of them have been done out of a jacked up toyota onto the concrete...nothing's happened to the pipe so far...

Man I always forget the pipe inbetween the legs when I get out...someday I'll remember...probably be when the pipe breaks on it's last jump out of the truck... :p
I *had* a piece like that. I keep my stash in a old Cane Creek fleece shock back. I opened the dore to my truck, it fell out, and all I heard was jingling glass. I was so heartbroken that I kept the remains.
I had dropped it I don't know how many time without the bag. It just needs to land the right way. I used a back-up until I could make it back to the shop in VT where I bought it. Kind of like the Salmon returing to Capistrano. But I recently discovered a porn shop near my house that sells glass.
I don't worry about the lap thing cuz I also have a dugout. Whoever invented them is/was a gebius.

[Repack]

Keef grinders
I saw one for the first time recently. Now I want one. Anybody else seen them? I am sure that some of you will be like "Duh!". Have they been around for long? Given my experience, I was surprised that I had not seen one before. CNC aluminum. Very cool.

[goodtobeIrie]

I don't worry about the lap thing cuz I also have a dugout. Whoever invented them is/was a gebius.

I own one too...but dislike smoking out of metal and try not to whenever possible...it just ruins the taste for me... :eviltongu yucky!!!!! :p

[The Kadvang]

my friend just broke his last night :dead:

[mack]

Exactly!!! STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM CIGS! I quit, and it sucked. It took me three years. The problem is that they suck you in without you ever realizing that you were getting hooked. Once you realize you are hooked, its too late.

Yes, i am smoking this last pack and then thats it, not more. I am not addicted, i just dont want to take that chance.

[Repack]

Yes, i am smoking this last pack and then thats it, not more. I am not addicted, i just dont want to take that chance.
I once said that. Everyone I know who ever did smoke has said that. That is what makes them so evil. They've got you before yourealize it. Just throw them oujt now if you aren't hooked. Why risk it?

[Repack]

I own one too...but dislike smoking out of metal and try not to whenever possible...it just ruins the taste for me... :eviltongu yucky!!!!! :p
Mine has such a hardened layer of tar on the inside of it that I can no longer tell! I just run a spoke through it to cleat it when needed, but no cleaning prodicts. Its fun to take a quick hit in public. By the time anyone smells it, its been put away and there nothing to see.

[goodtobeIrie]

I once said that. Everyone I know who ever did smoke has said that. That is what makes them so evil. They've got you before yourealize it. Just throw them oujt now if you aren't hooked. Why risk it?

yeah...cigs are like heroin...don't try 'em unless you plan on getting hooked and being a junky... :drool:

[Repack]

yeah...cigs are like heroin...don't try 'em unless you plan on getting hooked and being a junky... :drool:
Very true.

[The Kadvang]

cigs are trash

[binary visions]

Yes, i am smoking this last pack and then thats it, not more. I am not addicted, i just dont want to take that chance.
:rolleyes:

You're addicted, bub. Period.

Quit now.

edit: it's kinda funny that you're deluded into thinking you're not, though.

[McT]

Ahah, So, I applied for a job..

Drug testing, And im probably not gonna pass. So... anything I can do? if it helps, I only took 3 hits, and didnt ever really feel very different. The manager i talked to TOLD me to get some stuff that ended with 'sol' thats used for canning that would clean me out... but i dont know where/who to get it from. So... Am I SOL and should go back next month, or should I bite the bullet and do it anyway?

[The Kadvang]

How long ago did you smoke? The time it takes to get out of your system is very personal though...

[Repack]

Ahah, So, I applied for a job..

Drug testing, And im probably not gonna pass. So... anything I can do? if it helps, I only took 3 hits, and didnt ever really feel very different. The manager i talked to TOLD me to get some stuff that ended with 'sol' thats used for canning that would clean me out... but i dont know where/who to get it from. So... Am I SOL and should go back next month, or should I bite the bullet and do it anyway?
Been there, done that, and passed. But I did fail one once. If you only took 3 hits once, than I wouldn't worry.

Here is what you need to know.
#1 is that it all depends on the test. #2 is how much you smoke.
You will either be given a pass/fail style test (cheap) or one that measures the exact quantity (expensive). It all depends on how bad they want to catch people. Do you have any paperwork on it? If so, it will list the test to be performed. Type what is in the box into Google and you will get a ton of info. If it says something close to "GS/MS" or something like that, you are being given the stricter test. The problem with this is that the margin of error is 25%. The federally recommended cutoff is 50 ng/ml. Meaning that you need to score below a 37.5 to be cleared. But it is all up to the company.
Those drinks are a rip-off.
I am what you would call a "regular smoker". I knew it was coming and cut back about 99%. In the 8 days prior to the test, I took a couple of hits 4 days prior. Most people can pass a test 3-9 days after last smoking.

Basically, just drink tons of water. Take some creatine and B-complex vitamins. They will test the Crfeatine levels of your urine to determine the dilution. If it comes out that you are pissing water, they may declare the test "no good". Clear urine is another source of disqualification of the specimen. B-complex vitamins will turn it back yellow. 2 or 3 multi-vitamins are a good bet.

Be careful of the cleansing agents. In addition to being a waste of money. Many labs test for certain agents present in them. There are certain compounds that will destroy the THC-remnants. Labs are allowed to test for them.

Sorry I'm being so short but I'm in the middle of homework.

The moral to the story is "The solution to pollution is dilution."

Good luck!

[Brian HCM#1]

Ahah, So, I applied for a job..

Drug testing, And im probably not gonna pass. So... anything I can do? if it helps, I only took 3 hits, and didnt ever really feel very different. The manager i talked to TOLD me to get some stuff that ended with 'sol' thats used for canning that would clean me out... but i dont know where/who to get it from. So... Am I SOL and should go back next month, or should I bite the bullet and do it anyway?
I believe it stays in your system for 30 days or so.

[arboc!]

no its like 2-4 days if not regular use, and up to a couple of months for frequent, and thats very frequent use.

[binary visions]

I quit smoking when I was working at a company as a temp, and was hoping to be hired - they drug tested. Well, like 8 months went by and they showed no signs of hiring me, and my birthday rolled around, and I smoked up - big time. Two days later, they instituted a policy of drug testing temps across the board. Oops.

I had an appointment the next day. I went home and drank a ton of water all night long, and bought something called "Omni" that's supposedly guaranteed or your money back - it was available at my local headshop.

Whatever did it, I passed the test. Just remember, as Repack said, they're allowed to retest you if your urine is too clear (which indicates it's diluted).

[McT]

Yeah, I was thinking it was 30 days too.

I dont know what kind of test their gonne give me, but I do know their gonna test me with something. I smoked about 9-10 days ago.. just 3 hits. Im guessing the test is going to be pretty cheap, seeing as im not trying to get hired anywhere thats really swanky.

Thanks for the help guys... im going to find some vitamins and water, then call this hiring lady back.

[Repack]

Thanks for the help guys... im going to find some vitamins and water, then call this hiring lady back.

Is there any chance that once you call her back you can stall? Like say that b/c you are unemployed you offered to go take care of you elderly aunt out of state or something? It can be a very effective tactic.

Have you ever been tested before? Normally the process involoves being overnighted the paperwork, then you have a deadline by which you need to be tested. Remember that waiting until the last day is not something that a "clean" person would do.

I would drink juice (Apple, Cranberry) over water. You'll piss more. And try to find some creatine. You body excretes it naturally and it is one indicator of hydratrion level. And give the sample mid-stream. And don't do it first thing in the morning.

[Ciaran]

Just a little FYI for those looking for jobs... Kaiser Permanente does not drug test. Locations mainly on the west coast but some in Atlanta, Colorado, and Texas. Just thought I would mention it in case anyone is looking for a job. They hire all kinds of people... IT, Medical, legal, finance, etc, etc...

Hope it helps.

[T-Pirate]

Just thought I would bump the best thread ever back up to the top...

Oh man, I BROKE my GLASS! ACK! I am sooo bummed because she isn't even a year old. A nice thick two footer. She was sitting on my desk and I turned around in my chair and just caught her with my elbow and sent her to the floor. Fortunately only the glass base broke so the tube is still intact. I can use her, but I can't set her down.

Oh well, I guess it's time to go to the head shop.


ME TOO!


The good news is....it still looks and hits fine. That little magnifyer ball broke off, the only problem is it now feels like there is a carb on each side. I'm used to it but its a little confusing.

http://img18.exs.cx/img18/6505/nonbike104s.jpg

[jsun]

Solar Bong Rips Allday Long>

[TN]

I haven't touched my glass since I started vaping. Best thing ever.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/188/188219/folders/195647/1475566quickstart.jpg

[McT]

Ok, so they didnt do a urine test. They tested my saliva. 'Get a bunch of spit on either side of your mouth, then stick this swab in there.' then she put it in a tiny plastic container, and in a bag that said 'Intercept' in one of those perscription drug looking bags.

oh... and their sending it to a lab... so its probably pretty good.

Some of the people i talked to said im screwed, while some said im clean... maybe im just screwed either way, eh?

[Ciaran]

I don't know what I am a bigger whore for... cool bike parts or cool glass from the head shop.

I am thinking that I might go for a ROOR for the next one. I also want to try the glass on glass fittings. Of course if I am going to spend that much I might as well get a vaporizor.

Say McT, what kind of job are you trying to get?

[narlus]

What incredible prices. I don't ever buy, but I'd certainly reconsider it did I live near you! If you grow, it's what you know; if you buy, it's who you know.

I'm not a member of any such community because I no longer do such things. When I was into all of that, I was in college and not married. Such things are just not cool with a wife(who has never even tried it) and obviously, having kids forbids it. Why torture myself by hanging out in a bakery while on a low-carb diet, you know. :(

LL, i'm a bit confused. you don't smoke anymore, as inferred by yr comments that you don't buy and you don't grow?

[DHracer1067]

Ok, so they didnt do a urine test. They tested my saliva. 'Get a bunch of spit on either side of your mouth, then stick this swab in there.' then she put it in a tiny plastic container, and in a bag that said 'Intercept' in one of those perscription drug looking bags.

oh... and their sending it to a lab... so its probably pretty good.

Some of the people i talked to said im screwed, while some said im clean... maybe im just screwed either way, eh?

I read somewhere that the saliva tests can only detect if you smoked within the last 3-4 days. Not sure how true it is so you might wanna do some research on it.

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml

down at the bottom it sais saliva tests can only detect back like 14hrs so idk. your probly safe if its been 9 days

[sugarbushrider1]

you guys got any tips for drilling a vase to put a slide into? I bought a glass slide from the head shop and i tried drilling this real nice vase we had laying around but it shattered. Any ideas??

[llkoolkeg]

LL, i'm a bit confused. you don't smoke anymore, as inferred by yr comments that you don't buy and you don't grow?

Not with any regularity. I did so daily and to a science for almost 20 years, but had to give it up in 2000 when I got married. They wife's just not down with it(has never even tried it) and we certainly don't want it around the kids, so ever since, I only partake if a friend passes it to me at a party or show or ride. At this point in my life, it's just not worth the risk to possess. I don't regret toking as it is a part of who I am today and for that reason, will not get all my related tattoos lasered off to facilitate denial. Anyhow, you pick up a thing or two about a topic when you study it extensively at home and abroad for 20 years. :D

[llkoolkeg]

you guys got any tips for drilling a vase to put a slide into? I bought a glass slide from the head shop and i tried drilling this real nice vase we had laying around but it shattered. Any ideas??

You have to use a special drill bit designed for ceramics drilling.

Good advice on the testing, Repack. You saved me having to type it. :thumb:

[Repack]

You have to use a special drill bit designed for ceramics drilling.

Good advice on the testing, Repack. You saved me having to type it. :thumb:
No problem! I was really worried about it. It was for a company that I have a prior history with and I didn't want to blow it. I spent a bunch of time researching it. Seems to have been worth it!

And I have heard that submerging the glass in water helps. Heat => shattering. The water should fix that. A friend of mine built a piece out of an Arizona tea bottle. Submerge & use the masonry bit and it should work.

[sugarbushrider1]

I got a glass bit from the hardwear store but its big and flat and it seems like it will just tear the vase apart. I had a pretty good sized hole but then the bit caught and it shattered the vase. Never thought of submerging... will that make this this thing work?? Maybe ill give it another try today..

[llkoolkeg]

Basic drilling rules still apply- drill a very small starter hole first, then step up to a larger one.

[McT]

Yeah... I think im safe. I'll find out on monday for sure.


Say McT, what kind of job are you trying to get?

*Sigh* Bagboy at Kroger :dead:

[WV Hippy]

For drilling in glass I recomend lot's of lubricant (I used WD-40), and slow bit speeds. Try to use a bit that grinds instead of cuts. Drill a very small pilot hole and work the hole larger. I made a hooka out of a Crown Royal bottle in college. One tube off each side with a bowl piece in the lid. We used to take it to festivals and leave it out. People we'd never met would walk over and pack it up.

As for cannabis and children, I drink beer in front of my kids. They know that alcohol is strictly for grown-ups, just like they know not to grab my keys and hop behind the wheel of my car. I don't partake in the vicinety of my children because of second hand smoke. I have talked to my oldest daughter about it, I don't believe in lieing to my kids.

I find it amazing that we live in a society that pumps our children full of prescription drugs like ritilin and prozac, and yet trembles in fear of mother natures anti-deppresant.

I've been looking at vaporizers lately. I checked out the vrip. Any owners out there wanna share some more details? I'm curious about total cost (including heat gun). The web site says there are a few different guns you can use. Anyone know what they are?

[llkoolkeg]

As long as you can bring yourself to throw away depleted but still-formed buddage, vaporizers are very cool. Any number of heat guns at the Loew's, Home Depot, Sears, WalMart, etc. work well...especially the adjustable ones. I find vaporizers best to use on lower quality smoke that you are not overly-eager to taste. The finest cannabis requires complete ignition, however, in order to extract the full experience...aroma, flavor, high, etc. I hardly ever use mine anymore as they are less efficient and I have a hard time throwing away withered, spent buds even though they taste like ass if you do try to smoke 'em.

[TN]

I find it amazing that we live in a society that pumps our children full of prescription drugs like ritilin and prozac, and yet trembles in fear of mother natures anti-deppresant.

I've been looking at vaporizers lately. I checked out the vrip. Any owners out there wanna share some more details? I'm curious about total cost (including heat gun). The web site says there are a few different guns you can use. Anyone know what they are?

after trying the Volcano in Amsterdam, I knew i needed to be vaping. I love smoking, but it is killing my lungs.

I have an awesome set-up (IMHO ;) ) right now with a variable temp B&D heat gun & the valve set from a Vocanoe. We like hitting bags & find that the taste is actually accentuated & the effects are much more intense. I have done both KB (mostly) & some bricked up schwag & both knocked me on my ass. It is strange how potent brick weed is. Just search Overgrow.com for more info or PM me. I would love to have a Volcano but they cost $500. If the price drops I will definitely get one.

[Ciaran]

Ahh yes... it's finally friday... 8:36 am... time for a wake N bake

[T-Pirate]

In case anyone was wondering what a fogged-out tent looks like....


http://img184.exs.cx/img184/3073/campingpictures037s.jpg

[Hungry_Hank]

anybody else used a vapordoc? my friend just got one, man, it knocks you on your ass fast. after 3 or four hits you're done for, and you dont even realize it untill your standing in the bathroom 3 inches away from the mirror staring at your eye.

[Ciaran]

In case anyone was wondering what a fogged-out tent looks like....

Exzcellent picture! Would that be the Respect Tent?

[T-Pirate]

Exzcellent picture! Would that be the Respect Tent?

Hell's yeah, we couldn't breathe. We smoked 4 bowls in a row then passed out. It was amazing.

[ZmanONmaryJ]

you forgot to count the ones near the fire.... and in the creek!!!! but the 4 in the tent were straight trippy.... everybreath you took was like taking a rip... it kicked ass!

[Ciaran]

you forgot to count the ones near the fire.... and in the creek!!!! but the 4 in the tent were straight trippy.... everybreath you took was like taking a rip... it kicked ass!
Dang. I have to go camping soon.

[Repack]

Camping rules. My friends and I go every Mem Wknd, and many other time throughout the summer. This year we are looking for a new spot. So if any of you know of any spots within ~3 hours of Boston, lest hear 'em. MA sites are cool cuz we can fish w/out getting harshed on by the man. We are usually to drunk to ride, so good trails aren't really a concern.

[ZmanONmaryJ]

what a horrible thing to say!!!!! good trails are always a necessity!

[WV Hippy]

I've never been too drunk to ride. I've been too drunk to drive, and to drunk to walk, but never to drunk to ride. It's my prefered method of travel while under the influence.

[T-Pirate]

My dad found my pipe in my camelbak yesterday. He was rummaging through it and I took the camelbak from him and he pretended not to see it. 3 hours later I was about to leave and he says "you need to get that pipe out of your camelbak and throw it away". Being the super sneaky guy I am, I ran upstairs, swapped the pipe with a much less expensive one that was in my closet. He didn't notice, so I saved my nice piece, and zman never used the other one anyway. Unfortunately my dad crushed it with a hammer so I can't recover it.

[bballboy388]

just picked up some purple haze (or how ever its spelled) 3 grams for 30 dollars its some trippy ****!

[McGRP01]

Unfortunately my dad crushed it with a hammer so I can't recover it.

Ouch! Never had that happen, but I did have to watch my mom flush a 1/4 of decent buds down the toilet when I was in high school. that sucked. :mad:

[Repack]

Sorry about saying "too drunk too ride", but riding isn't really a major priority with my regular caming group. With our usual spot, road riding is better. Very scenic spots. NFS land = no offroad. But we do camp for a number of races each year.



That sucks about being busted. I have somehow never found myself in that situation. But at least if it ever comes up I can borrow from the old PSA and say, "I learned it form you, dad!". Even though I'm well into my twenties. At this point I don't tihk they'd care, but it is still nice to be holding a trumcard that they do not know about. When I was in highschool I found a bag of ancient shtuff in my dad's dresser drawer. I've neverf told him about it. At first it was b/c I was young and afraind, but now its b/c I want to find the perfect time to embaras the hell out of him.
Good job switching aroung the pieces. I am so gld that my 'rents are to the "the less we know the better" stage.
PS: Living at home SUCKS!

[Ciaran]

Every time I got caught my dad would take my stash and smoke it himself! Bastard! I remember when I was somewhere in my early 20's and I was watching TV with the dad and that PSA comes on... "I learned it from you!"... We just looked at each other and laughed.

Pic from my ride today...
http://www.punkduck.com/images/mtlowe11.jpg

[boostindoubles]

Keef grinders
I saw one for the first time recently. Now I want one. Anybody else seen them? I am sure that some of you will be like "Duh!". Have they been around for long? Given my experience, I was surprised that I had not seen one before. CNC aluminum. Very cool.

yo repack, i have a kief grinder. its cnc'd aluminum and has three compartments. the grinding, the storage w/ screen, and then on the bottom is kief collecting.

I love mine, if i grind an 8th or more through it i have a fatty pile of kief to play with.

[Repack]

yo repack, i have a kief grinder. its cnc'd aluminum and has three compartments. the grinding, the storage w/ screen, and then on the bottom is kief collecting.

I love mine, if i grind an 8th or more through it i have a fatty pile of kief to play with.
I know what they are and how they work, just not how long they have been around for. I own a basic wood grinder that I bought at the Coventry Phish show last summer. I think that was the first time I had seen a kief grinder. But $50>$9 so I went with the wood.

[llkoolkeg]

I know what they are and how they work, just not how long they have been around for. I own a basic wood grinder that I bought at the Coventry Phish show last summer. I think that was the first time I had seen a kief grinder. But $50>$9 so I went with the wood.

My favorite one was a thick plexi/acrylic model w/ interlocking tines that allowed you to witness the grinding as it occurred. I found that one up in B.C. :D

[Repack]

OK, lets see 'em. Your random round objects that aren't used for anything objectionable or anything like that.

[ZmanONmaryJ]

hmph..... well.... T-pirate got my bowl crushed by his dad... i had him holdin it for me cuz my mom was getting suspicious and ****.... almost got caught.... but it's ok Mueller, saved the better one that we actually used...!

[clancy98]

For drilling in glass I recomend lot's of lubricant (I used WD-40), and slow bit speeds.

1. drilling in glass, get a glass bit and more importantly a DREMEL so you can spin it at higher speeds. may I also suggest taping the area you are drilling. Lube is always a good idea. ;)

2. vapes -- high quality and finish DIY made of a 25 watt soldering iron with a copper pipe cap (shortened into a "tray") held on by a copper screw with matching threads to the soldering iron bits. this is mounted vertically into a drink coaster (after shortening the unnecessary length from the SI handle) Then covered with a hurricane lamp globe about 8-10" tall. In turn there is a rubber stopper in the top of the globe. There is a 1/4" hose barb and some fishtank tubing coming out.

Works great and is almost as cool as the pumpkin hookah I made for last years halloween... picture a carved out pumpkin with the traditional removeable jack o lantern lid. used a unibit to drill a cone shaped hole in the stump of the stem with a copper tube coming out underneath, then 4 hose barbs into the top (around the lid) of the pumpkin. filled it with water and burned it all night. Gonna try a watermelon for the 4th this year!

damn i gotta find pics!

CLancy

[ZmanONmaryJ]

damn ur creative.....! seems almost like too Much effort into making of something to smoke with.... **** give me a small glass piece and i'm staight!

[WV Hippy]

You know what Dennis Leary said. Pot doesn't lead to other drugs, it leads to carpentry!

[ZmanONmaryJ]

i think it just leads to creativity in general... he just found a way to express himself with carpentry....

[clancy98]

haha... this is true. My dad was pretty good in the shop and the smoke just seems to bring out the creativity in me. I designed and built my cousin's deck under the influence as well. And its luxury.

and finished with all my fingers, haters.

[Repack]

Its how I have done some of my most creative thinking. Especially with stuff like carpentry!

[Mad Dog]

Weed is better than Prozac!
I am 40 years old, college educated, professionally employed, and a recreational smoker (and beer drinker)for 22 years. I am a hardcore XC rider, still in great shape, and I have no plans to stop or slow down. The only time I tried cigarettes they made me sick. Tobacco is a real poison. Bongs are best but a good glass/wood pipe will do in a pinch on the trail. Party on, Garth!

[TN]

Weed is better than Prozac!
I am 40 years old, college educated, professionally employed, and a recreational smoker (and beer drinker)for 22 years. I am a hardcore XC rider, still in great shape, and I have no plans to stop or slow down. The only time I tried cigarettes they made me sick. Tobacco is a real poison. Bongs are best but a good glass/wood pipe will do in a pinch on the trail. Party on, Garth!

Party on, Wayne!
Asphinctersaywhat?
(sorry, i couldn't resist)

[ZmanONmaryJ]

Cigs should be illegal and weed legalized! you don't see people dying of lung cancer from the mary J!?!

[jsun]

nuff sed :eviltongu

[TN]

nuff sed :eviltongu

looks like a martians turd. :blah:

[Ciaran]

looks like a martians turd. :blah:
Dang it, you gotta stop making me laugh out loud at work!

[HellBentDH]

I went over to Amsterdam last month, checked out all the big name shops...The Grey Area, The Grasshopper, The Bulldog. Had a great time, smoked my head off, tried all the very best that there was to be had. Saw lots and lots of mary poppins bikes. Man everybody over there rides a bike. Long story short though, I smoked so much while I was there that I haven't had any desire to smoke since. It's been about five weeks now, no smoking. After five years of not missing a day. Strange. Don't even miss it. Maybe when bikin' season really kicks in and I'm out with the guys I'll feel the need.

[TN]

I went over to Amsterdam last month, checked out all the big name shops...The Grey Area, The Grasshopper, The Bulldog. Had a great time, smoked my head off, tried all the very best that there was to be had. Saw lots and lots of mary poppins bikes. Man everybody over there rides a bike. Long story short though, I smoked so much while I was there that I haven't had any desire to smoke since. It's been about five weeks now, no smoking. After five years of not missing a day. Strange. Don't even miss it. Maybe when bikin' season really kicks in and I'm out with the guys I'll feel the need.

hahaha! the same thing happened to Laura. it made me want to find a new nug hook up though. :D

did you try the greyberry & grey mist crystals from the GA? whew! I wont ever forget my first bowl loaded with the crystals, WOW....and then Puccini Bon Boni right across the street. :drool: Best chocolate EVER! double whammy!

[HellBentDH]

Yeah, the grey mist crystals could turn banana skins into good weed, amazing stuff. The stuff I liked the best was the AK-47, it had a real silly, high energy, happy feel, made me wish I had my bike with me. It was a great trip, I went solo and was really wishing I had the whole gang with me. I'll definately jump at the chance to go back.

[McGRP01]

JSAB... :evil:

[arboc!]

js3b....

[The Kadvang]

EXCELLENT CONVO with T-Pirate aka mule*:

The Kadvang: i think im gonna lifeguard again this summer
ThoughtfulPirate: I was blazed as **** the whole time they really don't give a ****
The Kadvang: hahah that was like me
The Kadvang: little childrens lives in my ****ing blasted hands
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahah
ThoughtfulPirate: "I'd save that kid with downs drowning, but I can't feel my arms....sorry"
The Kadvang: basically one of those anti-drug commericals
The Kadvang: "One day, I got high, and ran over a little girl riding her bike. I hate marijuana. I am going to cut myself."
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahahahahha
ThoughtfulPirate: "One day, I was high and forgot to pick up my prom date, and then she killed herself, I hate marijuana and I'm going to take my life"
The Kadvang: "One day, I smoked a marijuana cigarette. Satan came to me and told me to kill everyone I loved. I did, and now I will take my own life through ritual self masturbation"
ThoughtfulPirate: "One day, I was forced to partake in the smoking of a "big spliff". The horrible visions I had while under the influence of the marijuana cigarette's hallucinigenic and addictive properties have left me with a nasty bout of night terrors."
The Kadvang: hahahhahahahahhahahahahahah
The Kadvang: "One day, at a gathering of high school students, I was forced against my will by "peer preassure" to inhale the smoke of a marijuana smoking appartatus. It made me feel sick. It made me feel like God had left me."
ThoughtfulPirate: HAHAHAHA
ThoughtfulPirate: "Wow!...Those "Heady Nugz" are really kicking my ass...lets go sodomize a minority!"
The Kadvang: hahahah awful
The Kadvang: "After "toking a bowl" of marijuana I wanted to kill... just kill."
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahaha
ThoughtfulPirate: "The THC must have triggered my murder switch, anything that moved was just a swift twist of the neck away from a painful death"
The Kadvang: hahahahahah

[arboc!]

did you see harold and kumar go to white castle....they are watching the tv and the kids smoke and the one shoots himself... or something like that... i dont remember , i was high

[The Kadvang]

did you see harold and kumar go to white castle....they are watching the tv and the kids smoke and the one shoots himself... or something like that... i dont remember , i was high

hahah yeah... i love that movie

[boostindoubles]

EXCELLENT CONVO with T-Pirate aka mule*:

The Kadvang: i think im gonna lifeguard again this summer
ThoughtfulPirate: I was blazed as **** the whole time they really don't give a ****
The Kadvang: hahah that was like me
The Kadvang: little childrens lives in my ****ing blasted hands
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahah
ThoughtfulPirate: "I'd save that kid with downs drowning, but I can't feel my arms....sorry"
The Kadvang: basically one of those anti-drug commericals
The Kadvang: "One day, I got high, and ran over a little girl riding her bike. I hate marijuana. I am going to cut myself."
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahahahahha
ThoughtfulPirate: "One day, I was high and forgot to pick up my prom date, and then she killed herself, I hate marijuana and I'm going to take my life"
The Kadvang: "One day, I smoked a marijuana cigarette. Satan came to me and told me to kill everyone I loved. I did, and now I will take my own life through ritual self masturbation"
ThoughtfulPirate: "One day, I was forced to partake in the smoking of a "big spliff". The horrible visions I had while under the influence of the marijuana cigarette's hallucinigenic and addictive properties have left me with a nasty bout of night terrors."
The Kadvang: hahahhahahahahhahahahahahah
The Kadvang: "One day, at a gathering of high school students, I was forced against my will by "peer preassure" to inhale the smoke of a marijuana smoking appartatus. It made me feel sick. It made me feel like God had left me."
ThoughtfulPirate: HAHAHAHA
ThoughtfulPirate: "Wow!...Those "Heady Nugz" are really kicking my ass...lets go sodomize a minority!"
The Kadvang: hahahah awful
The Kadvang: "After "toking a bowl" of marijuana I wanted to kill... just kill."
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahaha
ThoughtfulPirate: "The THC must have triggered my murder switch, anything that moved was just a swift twist of the neck away from a painful death"
The Kadvang: hahahahahah


:nuts: :D

[fonseca]

I hate to say it, but after abstaining since 2001, I smoked last week. Some amazing, homegrown KB. And it was good. So good. Time slowed, but my thoughts raced. Things seemed to be connected, to make sense in a way that can't be explained. Deep thoughts, core ideas came to the surface, only to submerge a few hours later.

Never again.

[The Kadvang]

marijuana is my huck god

[TN]

Deep thoughts, core ideas came to the surface, only to submerge a few hours later.

Never again.

my imagination is running wild with what you might have been thinking of.

:think:

The Kadvang: "One day, at a gathering of high school students, I was forced against my will by "peer preassure" to inhale the smoke of a marijuana smoking appartatus. It made me feel sick. It made me feel like God had left me."
ThoughtfulPirate: HAHAHAHA
ThoughtfulPirate: "Wow!...Those "Heady Nugz" are really kicking my ass...lets go sodomize a minority!"
The Kadvang: hahahah awful
The Kadvang: "After "toking a bowl" of marijuana I wanted to kill... just kill."
ThoughtfulPirate: hahahaha
ThoughtfulPirate: "The THC must have triggered my murder switch, anything that moved was just a swift twist of the neck away from a painful death"
The Kadvang: hahahahahah

:help:

[mack]

JAMAICA!

Im leaving for Jamaica on Monday, and from what i heard there is allot of Marijuana there. How easy is it to get, it it legal? Do they sell it on the streets? Would the hotel manager be upset if i asked him where i could get some? These may be stupid questions but ive never been there before.

[DH biker]

Never touched the stuff.
Same here, never will either.

[mack]

Ive been thinking about growing some in my closet for a while now. But ive never seen a full plant before. Would i be able to grow one that is only about 2 feet high and still get some buds off of it??? I cant have my parents find it and its going to be grown in the attic... :think:

From what ive heard its pretty easy to grow, as it is a weed really.

[DHracer1067]

Ive been thinking about growing some in my closet for a while now. But ive never seen a full plant before. Would i be able to grow one that is only about 2 feet high and still get some buds off of it??? I cant have my parents find it and its going to be grown in the attic... :think:

From what ive heard its pretty easy to grow, as it is a weed really.


www.overgrow.com

you should go over there and readup on it if you want to try.

[llkoolkeg]

JAMAICA!

Im leaving for Jamaica on Monday, and from what i heard there is allot of Marijuana there. How easy is it to get, it it legal? Do they sell it on the streets? Would the hotel manager be upset if i asked him where i could get some? These may be stupid questions but ive never been there before.

Yes, there are metric tons of the Lamb's Bread produced every year.

It is not hard to get if you patronize a dominos shack or get a street-smart cabbie or bartender to point you in the right direction. Don't go alone and don't carry much cash if you attempt it. Machetes are used liberally down there in the rough parts of town. Steer clear of the nyabinghis, also.

It is not legal or smiled upon by the government or it's agents. Just ask Bunny Wailer(Livingstone) or Peter Tosh(were he still alive).

Most of what someone'll try to push on you is stress/ditch weed. A discriminating pallete is needed to sniff out the goods.

DON'T ask the hotel manager about it, ferchrissakes!

[SkaredShtles]

Ive been thinking about growing some in my closet for a while now. But ive never seen a full plant before. Would i be able to grow one that is only about 2 feet high and still get some buds off of it??? I cant have my parents find it and its going to be grown in the attic... :think:

From what ive heard its pretty easy to grow, as it is a weed really.
Come on, man. Tell me your kidding, right? :rolleyes:

-S.S.-

[mack]

Its not that far fetched. I knew a kid who grew it in his lizard aquarium... But my parents know what it is.

[llkoolkeg]

Its not that far fetched. I knew a kid who grew it in his lizard aquarium... But my parents know what it is.

Why risk such extensive jailtime at so young an age? Really, man, speaking from experience, I'd advise against it.

[HellBentDH]

I've grown hydro in the past. It's not really all that hard, but I can't imagine a kid living with his parents being able to pull off growing a qty in the house that would be worth the risk. I think the biggest hurdle would be the smell. Grwing plants give off a lot of odor. You're a mountain biker right, out in the woods alot....hmmmmm, I'd recommend finding a nice spot far from prying eyes, lot's of sun light and a decent water supply and grow your couple of plants out there. Once every two weeks, "go for a ride" miracle grow em, give em' some love. Assuming no one else finds them you'll be golden.

Oh yeah, and since I gave up smoking a couple of months ago, and feel a whole lot better for it. I've got a small hydro system for sale, minus the lights. So if your in upstate NY and want to give hydroponics a try drop me a line.

[boostindoubles]

if you cant do it in the privacy of your own home, it isnt worth it kid. Your parents could lose their house if you got caught...

Its one thing if they approve, but if you have to hide it from them in their house, its a no go. wait until your older man

[boostindoubles]

i mean think about it seriously, what were discussing here is illegal. meaning you go to jail, and will get your life taken away if the prosecution is so inclined.

you really have to access what you value and weigh the options. you may argue its one plant, and in some places one plant is totally cool and left alone. Other places one plant can put you in prison, or even worse in other countries maybe death.

theres always the option of growing in the woods during summer time? if you really have the grow bug, it gives you a reason to ride your bike and get you in the woods....

peace

[mack]

Could i really go to jail for growing one plant? Im only 16. :confused:

What are the penaltys for growing marijuana? God i really hate the USA somtimes. I think that out in the woods is my best bet. I think that I will use my neighbors cornfield in new hampshire.

[The Kadvang]

Mack... man you are hella dumb.

[binary visions]

Mack, do you learn everything in life by stumbling blindly along until someone enlightens you?

You need to actually do some of your own learning sometime, you know.

Don't f%$&ing grow it in your goddamn parent's house. Nice way to show how grateful you are for them providing a roof over your head, food, clothes, and everything else they have provided for you: grow illegal drugs in their house.

Martyr boy, over here with his "God I really hate the USA" as if you're being so oppressed, living in a middle class neighborhood in Connecticut with all of your great opportunities. Yeah, dude, "The Man" is really keepin' you down. Freedom is defined as being able to grow your own pot plants, whenever you want! FIGHT BIG BROTHER! :rolleyes:

If you want to grow it, go find a piece of public land, far away from people's houses, plant a few seeds and try to take care of them.

[T-Pirate]

Mack, you're often an idiot. I'm going to rescue this thread from the retardation.

http://img3.imagevenue.com/loc26/th_c94_nonbike_109.jpg (http://img3.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc26&image=c94_nonbike_109.jpg)

I picked that up last night. I haven't smoked any of it yet, but It looks, feels, and smells amazing. It seriously feels like velvet, and its real fluffy, my half eighth looks like a full eighth of most buds.

[llkoolkeg]

Mack, you're often an idiot. I'm going to rescue this thread from the retardation.

/img113/2636/nonbike109.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

I picked that up last night. I haven't smoked any of it yet, but It looks, feels, and smells amazing. It seriously feels like velvet, and its real fluffy, my half eighth looks like a full eighth of most buds.

Oh, the dripping irony. :redX:

[T-Pirate]

Oh, the dripping irony. :redX:

hold up, I'm working on it.

[mack]

I often post, and then think.

[binary visions]

I often post, and then think.
Just don't plant, then think, okay? Doing illegal s**t where your parents can get in trouble for it is ungrateful and idiotic.

[Ciaran]

Mack....

Don't grow. Unless you are a hippy, or are looking to be a Tony Montana pot cartel, don't grow. You WILL go to jail. Cops don't mind some kid smoking a bit, but it's a different story when you are growing... you get into FEDERAL laws, and such. If you were to grow one plant, and got caught you would be arrested, and booked. Your parents would have to bail you out which means they are spending money, and probably a few thouand at that. Then you have to hire a lawyer (more money), and then in a month or two you will go to court where you will likely get probation WITH pee tests. So now not only are you not growing, you can't even smoke! In addition to all of this growing indoors is not as easy as it seems, and it will take a minimum of 3 months before you can harvest some meager buds if you start from seed. Oh yeah, and the cops CAN TAKE YOUR PARENTS HOUSE for growing. It's just not worth it man. It would be easier for you to pimp yourself out to the older middle-aged lonely housewives for money and just buy your dope.

And don't grow in the forest... you'll likely end up either having bugs eat your crops, people stealing your crop or some ranger finding it.

[SkaredShtles]

And you guys thought I was just pickin' on Mack........ :rolleyes:

-S.S.-

[mack]

And you guys thought I was just pickin' on Mack........ :rolleyes:

-S.S.-

Im pretty sure you pick on every one, S.S. ;)

[DH biker]

Don't do it period. My friend got busted almost kicked out of school and screwed up a lot more things just becasue of it.

[narlus]

i'm thinking of growing some angel dust plants. any advice?

[mack]

i'm thinking of growing some angel dust plants. any advice?
Angle Dust, isnt that like PCP or somthing. I dont know my hardcore drugs, sorry. :stosh:

Ever watch the news and see that aftermath of a meth lab explosion :eek:

[The Kadvang]

I just tripped for like 5 hours offa some club brownies... AMAZING