more shiver mod Q's

[MisterMental]

hi everyone
i have some shiver SC's would a) a solid alu axel or b) a steel equvalent axel make them stiffer twisting wise?

[Cracker]

I don't think so. The axel is steel already, I believe. A solid one will just be heavier and only a little bit stronger. You should consider that the twisting is designed in. You must not over tighten the clamps, you want a little float so that it doesn't bind the rotor. Can't say that I've noticed twisting, but I've only had mine on a few rides.

Cheers,

[MisterMental]

the axel is alu its got to be its too light for what it is to be steel
whats all this about float?

[Cracker]

Okay so its Al. My mistake. As far as the float, what I mean is that you don't want to crank the axel clamps down, you want them to be snug. Otherwise the small amount of bushing slop that there is will cause the axel and rotor move around and not seat back to their proper position. Causing your rotor to rub against the calipers. Basically you want some twisting of the wheel. If you want a better explanation ask Zedro on mtbr's freeride forum. He's a shiver god.

Cheers,

[MisterMental]

you men dont crank the pinch bolts down?? or the end cap bolt?
i do the end cap bolt up as tight as it goes with a multitool and ditti the the pinch bolts

[Cracker]

Pinch bolts or clamps, whatever. The manual says to do the pinch bolts to 6N.m and the end cap to 20 N.m. Big difference. Check out this:
http://www.marzocchimtb.com/tech-tuning/2002/SHIVER_SC.PDF It should help for whatever you want to do.

[auntesther]

ok saw that this is for a Shiver SINGLE CROWN so to make it a short answer, no, the axle is aluminum now and hollow. A solid axle really wouldnt make any difference. Any flex you make feel ( real or imagined) is probably not coming from the axle or drops. more likely the top part of the fork ( no brace).
That being said, I got a Shiver SC and never have had any issue with flex. Also have a Shiver Dc and sherman slider o guage it against.
Only mods from stock I would make are tuning it for yourself. springs, oil weight height etc.

[MisterMental]

okay cheers
i guess ill have to get meself a torque wrench

[MisterMental]

oh and one last thing
whenever i out preload on them it tops out really bad

[Cracker]

try more oil, mine was quite a bit lower than the suggested levels. I filled it to 20mm below the stantion with the springs removed and cartridges submerged. Mine fork was also making funny top out sounds. I figured, after seeing the oil height, that the rebound damping wasn't doing much and therefore the top out sound.

[MisterMental]

i like my rebound faaaaaaast:) :D

[Brian Peterson]

The torsional flex you feel in an inverted fork comes at the junction of the uppers and lowers. A different axle won't help. It is the nature of the beast with inverted forks.

Brian