Difference between Hope Enduro and M4?

[wirly]

The Hope site says the caliper has been redesigned to use the mini lever, do people who have used both notice that this is an improvement in power and/or feel? Or is it just an even swap?

Is the Enduro still as good as the M4 or would I be sacrificing performance if I bought the Enduro's off a friend rather than going for the new model?

[MikeD]

John, just my guess, but it'd be an infintessimal difference if you set both brakes up well. The mini lever isn't any better-performing, I'm sure; I just think Hope is moving towards having a single style lever on all their brakes. That said, I really like the mini lever blade (but prefer the old moto-style master cylinder on the Pro levers...)

I think the differences in the caliper are centered on making them easier to bleed; apparently, there's a cavity in the M4s that is hard to coax air from. I haven't noticed it myself.

[D_D]

I doubt there is any functional difference other than the lever.

I actually prefer the old lever to the mini but making two seperate levers for no reason is a bit stupid.

I slightly prefer the pro lever, it is a lot smaller (the mini lever interfears with my led lights)and you can adjust the reach without gripshift getting in the way.

[wirly]

Cool, I'll just get the Enduro's then.

I'm sure this is better directed towards Hope directly, but I'll throw it out anyway; are the levers actually interchangable or will there be too much/too little power due to possible cylinder diameter differences?

Mike, riding plans for this weekend?

[MikeD]

J,

Far as I know, the levers aren't interchangable...but just give Hope a call (they suck at answering email, but it's fun to talk to them on the phone because of the cute accents. "Hope Technawlogees, Gwen speaking...) The phone # is at www.hopetech.com

As to the weekend, we may do a Noble ride on Sat or Sun, and something else Monday (presidents' day!). Got a party on Sat. afternoon/evening for the GF's b-day, though. You up for a freeride Monday somewhere? I haven't done Anderson in a while and the rain's probably making it interesting...

MD

[MisterMental]

there are differences to the M4 caliper there are 2 small and 2 large pistoons in each caliper
in teh enduros they are all the same size
the rest is teh same as far as i know
i have noticed that when bleeding M4's they do tend to suck in air. not sure where from
i have only ever felt/seen one perfectly woking M4 that didnt feel shyte all teh others have been creaky, flexy or just crap
you CANNOT swap pro/mini/ levers between the 2 calipers
i prefer the mini lever blade but the pro lever body which is a bit of an arse really.
im just goning to stick with teh E4 for the time being