How to save weight on the top? [Archive]

Pesling

07-20-2008, 07:44 PM

This is my ride:

http://img.skitch.com/20080720-qyb2upig8867k7u5q93nhfpw6q.jpg

and here is the partlist:

Frame - blkmrkt Mob 2006 raw
Fork - Rock Shox Pike U-Turn Air, 60 til 90mm travel, motion control removed
Handlebars - Deity Streetbar 2" rise 28" wide
Stem - blkmrkt Underboss stem with ti-bolts
Headset - FSA Impact
Grips - Animal Edwin cutted
Barends - blkmrkt
Saddle - Odyssey Junior
Seatpost - Thomson Elite with ti-bolts
Rear brake - Hope Mono Mini 6"
Cranks - Leafcycles Motosticks
Chain - KMC X10SL
Pedals - Odyssey Twisted PC clear
Front hub - NS Bikes Roller Simple 20
Rear hub - Hope Pro II bolt-in with ti-bolts
Front rim - Mavic XM719
Rear rim - Mavic XM719
Spokes front - DT Swiss
Spokes rear - Sapim
Nipples front - DT Swiss red alloy
Nipples rear - Sapim brass
Tyres - Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26x2.1
Tubes - Schwalbe XX-Light 14a

The weight is a bit under 10,5kg / 23 lbs. I want to save some weight to get under 10 kg again...I know there a lot lighter parts, but it should be as beautiful as it can be. Frame, fork (brand new because I broke my Revelation), hubs (front hub is the lightest, rear hub is real light and so ****in stiff) and cranks (lightest 2-piece crank actually)I do not like to change. My only thought at the moment is to exchange the uppers to the Revelation ones and remove the Air U-Turn System to a Dual Air. This maybe saves 200-300g...maybe you have some good ideas?

newrider3

07-20-2008, 08:10 PM

Nice bike. Why exactly are you complaining about 23 pounds? My 20 weighs more than that!

brycexlighthall

07-20-2008, 08:22 PM

That is borderline ridiculous. I have never heard of a big bike weighing that little. I don't know if I should congratulate or say be careful?

S4Sean

07-20-2008, 08:30 PM

wow, weight weenie @ 23 pounds lol

mr.c

07-20-2008, 10:17 PM

damn those pedals are tits, well you need to do some pull ups and hit the gym a lil and it will fix your problem lol, your bike is rediculously lite

pain

07-20-2008, 10:21 PM

cut your bars, ti axles, speed holes in the frame, shorten the drop outs, no grips, no seat and seat post

nwd_26

07-20-2008, 10:55 PM

shave off the brake mounts on your lowers, shave off every mount you aren't using, replace the rest of the bolts with ti, machine some speed holes in your front hub, get maxle lite when it comes out, and make some inbred rockshox concoction...no clue what.

Windowlicker

07-20-2008, 11:06 PM

valve caps
brakeless or u brake

dan wask

07-20-2008, 11:38 PM

Where did your revelation break? I'm curious about the longevity of mine.

Savage_Animal

07-21-2008, 01:34 AM

1. get 140mm rotor
2. cut a little of the brake cable
3. drill some holes in your post
4. Get the Maxxis 310s only 310grams a pop, thin side walls but a buddy of mine has been riding them for a year no problem with sliders and everything
5. cut off some of the quick release lever

DCRAC3R

07-21-2008, 02:20 AM

thompson stem
Control tech scandium bars
ti spokes?

not much lighter for a dj/street bike can be had

.Pit Steelers.

07-21-2008, 03:52 AM

Start lifting

Pesling

07-21-2008, 05:38 AM

Nice bike. Why exactly are you complaining about 23 pounds? My 20 weighs more than that!

http://img.skitch.com/20080721-d21ug8nufbfxugunmdu7ab252x.jpg

cut your bars, ti axles, speed holes in the frame, shorten the drop outs, no grips, no seat and seat post

I like to ride wide bars, never 'll cut them ;). Where to get ti-axles for this pedals? (I have some NC-17 Magnesium too, they are 15g lighter ;) ). I already had a frame with "speed holes" - this saved only 17g and it's more unstable! Dropouts are short...without grips, seat and seatpost I cannot ride :D - no jokes please!

Where did your revelation break? I'm curious about the longevity of mine.

It broke at the bridge after 2 years...still think it's a nice fork - but not for my anymore:

http://img.skitch.com/20080622-m85kg767fghd4wmph4e12hqu5p.jpg

1. get 140mm rotor
2. cut a little of the brake cable
3. drill some holes in your post
4. Get the Maxxis 310s only 310grams a pop, thin side walls but a buddy of mine has been riding them for a year no problem with sliders and everything
5. cut off some of the quick release lever

1. I ride in bikeparks, this maybe too small
2. it's maximum cutted
3. cutted to 58mm with a lot of holes ;)
4. I ride Maxxis Flyweight 330, they are okay for dirt, but for street/park they were not strong enough - are the 310s better?
5. I'll change to a Marzocchi 20mm axle (just wait for the adapter, saves 50g)

thompson stem
Control tech scandium bars
ti spokes?

I heard that scandium is not as strong as they tell everyone...where to get ti-spokes?

DirtBag

07-21-2008, 08:45 AM

Jeez 23 lb Mob? Why would you ever want to go lighter? Mine is at 28 lbs and I think that is perfect. Just ride it as is...

But if you want to go lighter go with a pivotal post and seat set-up. It is lighter than the set-up you have. Then add a Thomson stem.

If that is not enough then I don't know what is...

Stoked

07-21-2008, 09:21 AM

mr. ride lite doesn't know where to get ti spokes. the horror...:biggrin:

i hope you're kidding about ti axles in pc pedals. only reasonable thing to loose is the fork disc mount.

Stoked

07-21-2008, 09:23 AM

But if you want to go lighter go with a pivotal post and seat set-up. It is lighter than the set-up you have. Then add a Thomson stem.

the junior with a chopped thomson is actually lighter. its sad that i know this.

mr.c

07-21-2008, 03:45 PM

you're being rediculous, your bike weighs 23lbs... dude are you like a lil kid or do you weigh like 100lbs? to want any lighter i would be scared to break the bike. and honestly the only thing you could really do is the ti spokes and get rid of your seat and seat post, no jokes, otherwise sshhhhh!!!

go workout, eat something put some meat on them bones boy

DirtBag

07-21-2008, 03:48 PM

the junior with a chopped thomson is actually lighter. its sad that i know this.

It is NOT lighter than a cut macnail pivotal post with an SL saddle. I know too. I had both.

bikeit13

07-21-2008, 09:13 PM

Hey man, Nice looking bike! You've prob been asked this quite a bit but if you don't mind sharing again, how do you lower an air U-turn pike?

thanks

newrider3

07-21-2008, 09:17 PM

http://img.skitch.com/20080721-d21ug8nufbfxugunmdu7ab252x.jpg
So what exactly am I supposed to learn from this picture? My 20" weighs at least 27 lbs, so you seriously need to go lift if you need to make your 23lb 26" lighter.

ThePriceSeliger

07-21-2008, 09:24 PM

140mm rotor is plenty, I run one and it kills.

And if you're riding that in a bike park it shouldn't be that light, because I'd be worried about something snapping.

Besides that, Ti spokes I guess, even though I beleive they run nearly 4 dollars a spoke. Not sure, I've never runned them, I just heard that.

newrider3

07-21-2008, 10:01 PM

Ti spokes:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h272/southcoastbmx/Image069.jpg

Pesling

07-22-2008, 03:27 AM

Hey man, Nice looking bike! You've prob been asked this quite a bit but if you don't mind sharing again, how do you lower an air U-turn pike?

thanks

instruction (http://ridelitewebzine.blogspot.com/2008/07/thuesday-8.html)

mr.c

07-22-2008, 02:27 PM

did you take the middle part of the pedal out lol? hahhahah thats funny if you did it for weight, but it actually looks kinda better...

Savage_Animal

07-22-2008, 04:56 PM

If you pump up the maxxlight 310s to 80 or so psi they should be great, i was tlking to someone on another forum and hes run them too
I actualy just got mine in the mail todaya nd they are amazing, way lighter then sb8s too

And ya 140 is plenty, a lot of people I have talked to say they can hardly notice a difference in stopping power between 140 and 160 and youll save a few grams

also shave off those brake mounts on the fork, that would be sick

Pesling

07-22-2008, 06:19 PM

did you take the middle part of the pedal out lol? hahhahah thats funny if you did it for weight, but it actually looks kinda better...

No just painted it black:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2689893299_e50e9b34aa_o.jpg

I just ordered a titanium axle for my mg-1 pedals...should be under 300g and maybe save 100g, let's have look.

Edit: okay here's my plan so far

Titanium Axle for MG-1, remove reflector mounts - saves ±100g
Change Maxle to Marzocchi 20mm Axle, just waiting for my adapter - saves ±50g
Get a new Racing Ralph Tire, cause on the rear is the old version (469g, new is much lighter)- saves ±50g
Change Uppers to Revelation and remove U-Turn unit, put in a Dual Air System - saves ±200-300g

So maybe I am getting under 10kg, would be nice...if not I'll the MaxxLite 310 tires...

What do you think?

toonces

07-22-2008, 07:00 PM

What do you think?

less talk, more rock.

brycexlighthall

07-22-2008, 07:21 PM

less Talk, More Rock.< <

newrider3

07-22-2008, 07:57 PM

I think your money would be better spent on some dumbells.

DirtBag

07-22-2008, 10:54 PM

[QUOTE=Pesling;3004022]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3041/2689893299_e50e9b34aa_o.jpg

All weight-dropping ball-busting aside - that is one awsome looking bike. Not as nice as my Mob, but awesome nontheless :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Ok really - I think the build looks amazing. I really can't imagine riding a 23lb Mob. I think mine at 28lb even is super light. And I have really top shelf parts (like you) that are going to last. I would not want it any lighter. But I am also 180lbs. You may be a lot lighter and can ride a different rider to bike weight ratio.

3 more suggestions:

1. How light are the cranks? Do they have a Ti spindle? (I assume so).
2. I still say pivotal set-up. Since you run slammed, chop the post.
3. Aluminum nipples.

t1maglio

07-22-2008, 11:06 PM

Man, I just am confused why you would want a lighter bike that is more fragile. I mean, if you got the cash and want a sweet wallflower (or factory flower, from the looks of it, and don't get me wrong, its a cool setting), awesome, but if you really ride hard (which maybe you do) having somethings with a little extra weight so they don't break never hurt anyone. I have seen trends go from normal, to crazy over built, to crazy light, and I imagine in a year or so we will see things back at normal (which I would say would be around 25-27lbs for 20", 24", or 26"). My 20" is finally back down to 25lbs, so is my 24", I love their stability, and I also love that I don't have to be scared of trying stuff.

Whatever, more power to you, and the bike looks tits, but I just question the ultra low builds, but then again, its probably not my place, right?

stino

07-23-2008, 04:10 AM

exactly the same here. Lighter costs more and doesn't last as long. Not lasting as long means breaking stuff, means more cost. It's like a vicious circle, only way out is either riding carefully and supersmooth so you don't mess up, but that just keeps you from riding at the edge, or just spend some money on decent weighty parts.
Back in the trials-days I also drilled holes everywhere in my bike. That was ok for trials, but then came street and after two months I had not a single part left that didn't need replacing. Now my bike is much more heavy, but I LOVE the feeling it has: an indestructible piece of steel, stable both on the ground and in the air.

Pesling

07-23-2008, 05:58 AM

3 more suggestions:

1. How light are the cranks? Do they have a Ti spindle? (I assume so).
2. I still say pivotal set-up. Since you run slammed, chop the post.
3. Aluminum nipples.

1. Crank is the lightest 2-piece crank (791g), much stronger than KHE Hindenburg 2pc or Odyssey Wombolt and specially made for MTB. It's a CrMo spindle, but it's 2pc so I cannot change. Lighter cranks (MacNeil or Demolition) break...(Demolition already offers a V2.0 of Medial, which is heavier...)
2. I rode a pivotal, stripped and with a alloy bolt...it's a little bit lighter, but I cannot slam the seat and I don't think it's beautyful...
3. I ride alloy nipples in the front...maybe get some for rear, but I'm a bit confused if this will work

Cru Jones

07-23-2008, 10:15 AM

That thing is sick. You guys are hating too much on the weight. I don't see anything on there that should break or bend. He just built it up with up the lightest, but still reliable, parts available. I would love to boost that thing... it'd feel awesome being as light as my 20, but it'd still have some of the stability from the bigger wheels.

ServeEm

07-23-2008, 10:43 AM

I'm not hating but I am picturing a small kid under 120lbs. Really nice bike but too clean. Enuf with the glam pics, time for action pics.

pedalkicker

07-23-2008, 12:35 PM

Wow, that thing is nice! I wish my TOP was under 30lbs.:greedy:

Pesling

07-23-2008, 06:16 PM

I'm not hating but I am picturing a small kid under 120lbs. Really nice bike but too clean. Enuf with the glam pics, time for action pics.

I'm not under 120lbs :D - so I find some action pics...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/2675727150_27f61be207_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2040549315_5493801ee5_o.jpg
(old pic with old color and old fork (broke))

http://img.skitch.com/20080329-mhfjef3quw1qrtf2mp773t2tt.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20080329-rcu9dbfqsmq1mu6d6234i8g2r4.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20080329-fr5j6xxmjxec871phmes6f9cus.jpg

Enuf? :D

RayB

07-23-2008, 06:22 PM

climbingbubba

07-28-2008, 06:28 PM

dang thats light,

here are a few and seeing the rest of your build, money isn't too much of an issue

wellgo mg-1 with titanium spindle (just found these on ebay, only 296 grams!!)
WTB devo carbon seat with ti rails (really light and still good coverage)
run 24" tubes
use DT swiss super comp spokes (save alot of weight) or titanium. i know a guy who custom cuts titanium if your intersted.
alloy nipples in rear
and you could always go with a blkmrkt rigid and save 2 pounds.

sucks that your revelation broke. i just bought one to put on my rig but i don't go big.

Pesling

07-28-2008, 06:37 PM

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm314/pesling/pedal.jpg?t=1217284309

Just got my MG-1 with Ti-spindle today :D

Bicyclist

07-29-2008, 04:13 PM

Where did you get the ti spindle for the MG-1s?

climbingbubba

07-29-2008, 04:16 PM

i don't know if you can buy the ti spindle seperate. you can get the wellgo mg-1's in grey,black or white off of ebay for about $115.

Pesling

07-29-2008, 06:00 PM

right

grom-dom

07-29-2008, 06:33 PM

It is NOT lighter than a cut macnail pivotal post with an SL saddle. I know too. I had both.

a junior with a stump thompson is under 9oz dude

Bicyclist

07-29-2008, 08:53 PM

Damn. I just bought a set of MG-1s (for my DH bike), but BTI only listed them w/ normal axles. Oh well, no chance I would pay that much for a set I get at cost.

DirtBag

07-29-2008, 09:44 PM

a junior with a stump thompson is under 9oz dude

Hmm. I thought it was closer to 11oz. I will take your word for it.:poster_oops:

BikeSATORI

07-30-2008, 12:06 AM

rolly shmoley. looks like a fun bike.

Another case of lighter starting fire. (That headline is getting old news.)

...at least it's rather mild here, compared to similar discussion elsewhere regarding weight loss. American thing... underlying theme on rejecting weight-loss, haha.

I'll predict... probably quick on the draw... but, this may possibly mark a beginning stage in giant shift in current cycling trend, repeating history, rejecting lightweight... I already taste it, I might have to get another Standard STA! 48 spokes?! C'mon, with current technology we can probably fit 72... no wait, 128 spokes! Shoot for the moon! Hell, why not some solid billet wheels even. And done tubeless right, Solid rubber!
I'm even going to weld some Craftsman wrenches to the bottom of my chainstays for grind guards, tonight.
I'm seriously done with bolt-on catalog parts. No more bolts. Weld everything. Weld my stem to my steerer, and my bars to my stem. Hot-rod for life.

climbingbubba

07-30-2008, 12:51 AM

Hmm. I thought it was closer to 11oz. I will take your word for it.:poster_oops:

i have to agree with you on the 11oz thing. the odyssey junior seat is 6.5 oz so that means the thomson would have to be under 2.5 oz. thats about 70 grams. they are listed at 188 grams for a 25.4 at 200mm and 256 grams at 330mm. sooooo.... if i did my math right that would put it at 120 grams for a 70mm (slammed one) or 4.23 oz for a grand total 10.73 oz with the seat.

im sure drilling and ti bolts would bring it down a little but i doubt to under 9 oz

on the other hand the federal slim sl pivotal and slammed pivotal post weigh 11.1 oz with no ti bolts or drilling...

so the thomson with junior is lighter but the pivotal is really close and is alot bigger and more padded.
man i need to go to bed

Pesling

07-30-2008, 01:56 PM

all weights (http://s299.photobucket.com/albums/mm314/pesling/) collected...

Stoked

07-30-2008, 03:18 PM

pesling, i dig your site ride lite, you should post some stuff over here too.

v-digit

07-30-2008, 03:29 PM

pesling, i dig your site ride lite, you should post some stuff over here too.

yep yep, i agree! good site bro.

grom-dom

07-30-2008, 04:10 PM

throw an f80x on the front with a madera pilot hub (7oz) or one of the new fly front hubs or something.

a chopped to hell, and drilled thompson doesnt weigh much over 2oz i don't think...

thompson stem or sunline stem could knock the weight down.

do the primo balance style rim drilling on the inside of the rims, cut steerer tube if you haven't yet.

http://www.danscomp.com/463025.php?cat=PARTS

140mm rotor, new lever maybe, iunno what else.

climbingbubba

07-30-2008, 04:58 PM

[QUOTE=grom-dom;3011431]throw an f80x on the front with a madera pilot hub (7oz) or one of the new fly front hubs or something.

a chopped to hell, and drilled thompson doesnt weigh much over 2oz i don't think...

QUOTE]

he said earlier in the posts that he won't change the bars or fork. he already cracked a revelation so a f80x would be a step in a weaker direction.
if he did though a ns simple front hub only weights 5.96 oz. thats whats going on my new build

and his seatpost is about 4 oz with it chopped and ti bolts according to his scale (assuming the 6.5oz junior seat is accurate) cause he said the total was about 10.5 oz

im in no way trying to be rude in correcting you either. the other ideas were good

grom-dom

07-30-2008, 05:03 PM

word, my error then. you can cut the post obscenely short though haha.

the NS is 5.9? jesus

Pesling

07-30-2008, 06:28 PM

Hanging scale says 10,3 kg

http://img.skitch.com/20080730-gksxgsm9cu2uhp6muft1sbm2r.jpg

.Pit Steelers.

07-30-2008, 06:51 PM

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jonKranked

07-30-2008, 07:41 PM

very cool bike, nice action shots!

Just a thought... have you considered switching to a rigid fork? It would take some time to get used to, but ultimately you would find that you will become smoother when you ride. And save a bunch of weight to boot :D

climbingbubba

07-30-2008, 08:22 PM

word, my error then. you can cut the post obscenely short though haha.

the NS is 5.9? jesus

yeah 169 grams. but it doesn't have disc mounts or anything. i think its either 9mm or 10mm hollow axle. they look clean too. im buying mine when i finally drop the money on my NS capital frame. i have a revelation dual air waiting to go on a bike

Savage_Animal

07-31-2008, 04:08 AM

deffo get the 140 rotor, i just got my Hayze v5 and it stops great, looks super clean you also save weight because of the smaller mount

Cru Jones

07-31-2008, 04:07 PM

Satori is hilarious. You should post more often.

Yo, P, you could use one of these to compress your stem/headset before tightening and then take it off. Then you wouldn't have to use a topcap or a star nut. Or, you could just remove the top cap after tightening...

http://www.jensonusa.com/store/product/HS707Z00-Azonic+Head+Lock.aspx

Pesling

07-31-2008, 07:09 PM

heard about that but don't trust in it

pain

07-31-2008, 07:55 PM

why wouldnt you trust it? the top cap is only there to preload the bearings in the headset... it is useless once you tighten your stem.

grom-dom

07-31-2008, 08:57 PM

is 23lbs to heavy?

allsk8sno

07-31-2008, 11:56 PM

cheaper option is to just get a long bolt and washers and T-nut at the hardware store, i did this once for about 2 bucks

aeffertz

08-01-2008, 12:58 AM

yeah, i was going to say the Head Lock, too.
And idk if you said no to getting rid of the brake mount on the fork, but that's something you could do.
Here's another option.
Take off seat cover and shave the seat foam. oh, and then put the seat cover back on...
And you could drill like 8 more holes total in the seat post. insted of 3 up and down, only do 2 towards the bottom inbetween the 3 holes, if you get what i'm saying.
Make it lighter! set a world record or some sh*t. ha.

Savage_Animal

08-01-2008, 02:48 AM

Savage_Animal

08-01-2008, 02:49 AM

but really cut those brake mounts off, unless you are worried about warrenty in which case you will probly void it

freeridefool

08-01-2008, 04:54 AM

Seriously get a life. You have a sick ass bike that is light as all get out. Shave the brake mounts, lose the top cap and get the 140 rotor and shut up.

Pesling

08-01-2008, 07:04 AM

but really cut those brake mounts off, unless you are worried about warrenty in which case you will probly void it

That's my problem - the warrenty. But it only saves under 5g, lower are just magnesium...

aeffertz

08-01-2008, 12:18 PM

what's with all the hating?
it's not like he doesn't ride it, or complaining that it's too heavy, just wants to see how light he can make it.

ServeEm

08-01-2008, 01:45 PM

Yea at first I was laughing at the degree he's taking this too but realized that this is his passion. He analizes each and every inch of his set up which I can respect. With me, riding is my passion. I hate wrenching on my bike so as long as it doesn't break is my criteria, not weight.

grom-dom

08-01-2008, 01:55 PM

word. sh*t is mad dialed. but much under 25lbs or so gets squirrelly as all get out

DCRAC3R

08-01-2008, 03:10 PM

Stoked

08-01-2008, 03:24 PM

bikes are a good thing to be obsessed about.

i like a star nut w/ Tree top cap.

SuspectDevice

08-01-2008, 03:39 PM

Shì, wŏ hĕn xĭhuān Wáng jīnglĭ.
Yes, I really like Manager Wang.

Pesling

08-06-2008, 07:15 PM

http://img.skitch.com/20080806-dks45n3c2jgwuj9pyb9wjsfxn4.jpg

To save some weight I build my own fork - the "Pevelation"- a mix of Pike and Revelation. Saved 215g, my scale says now 10,1kg / 22,2lbs. Uppers and dual air system is from the Revelation, lowers are from the Pike. Motion Control is removed. 'll write an issue for Ride Lite (http://www.ridelite.de) soon!

Rover Nick

08-07-2008, 01:16 AM

Get foam grips.

They ain't too pretty, but you can find some that weigh ~22g and they usually cost around 5 bucks

And if you're looking to spend some $ how about lighter brakes, such as Formula Puro's?

FR4life.

08-07-2008, 03:00 AM

Dope. Nice job with the fork-breeding.
Get foam grips.
Is it really necessary to compromise your handling/comfort on grips? Since when are a certain pair of grips too heavy? Is this bike really still too heavy?:crazy:

freeridefool

08-07-2008, 03:59 AM

Seriously get a life. You have a sick ass bike that is light as all get out. Shave the brake mounts, lose the top cap and get the 140 rotor and shut up.

Quoting my own post. Hey man Im sorry. I envy your bike so much. I was a little upset due to the fact that I broke my dirt jumper and then reading your thread just set me off. I love the pike/revelation, that is a work of art.

Stoked

08-07-2008, 09:55 AM

foam grips are sheeeet

is the pevelation mod still under warranty?

Rover Nick

08-07-2008, 01:02 PM

Dope. Nice job with the fork-breeding.

Is it really necessary to compromise your handling/comfort on grips? Since when are a certain pair of grips too heavy? Is this bike really still too heavy?:crazy:

How do they compromise handling/comfort? I run them on my DH bike and they are very comfy and they have never slipped. In fact, I switched out a set of ODI lock-on's for them.

Regular grips aren't too heavy. The OP just asked where he could shave weight, and I answerd him. And the OP can be the only one to answer if the bike is too heavy or not.

Pesling

08-07-2008, 03:05 PM

foam grips are sheeeet

is the pevelation mod still under warranty?

don't think so...

fork is better than the Pike - it's harder, reacts better and of course fukkin liter! U-Turn always sucked me down a bit, I love the Dual Air system!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/2750669481_45131959a7_o.jpg

aeffertz

08-07-2008, 04:24 PM

carbon fiber brake lever.

Savage_Animal

08-11-2008, 04:31 AM

do this to your bars:

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7498/drilledbars005vb6.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/2041/drilledbars004vx2.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/6955/drilledbars003bg8.jpg

stino

08-11-2008, 08:07 AM

How do they compromise handling/comfort? I run them on my DH bike and they are very comfy and they have never slipped. In fact, I switched out a set of ODI lock-on's for them.

maybe if you ride with gloves
foam grips + rain/lotsa sweat = problems

rpet

08-11-2008, 10:31 AM

with the MoCo removed from the fork, do you have any damping?

Pesling

08-11-2008, 05:18 PM

nwd_26

08-11-2008, 11:55 PM

I can't remember if you veto'd any of this, but...

Tires: Maxxis Maxxlite 310s. I know of at least one street rider that runs them, and he's had nothing but success.
Handlebars: Answer Pro-taper. It may not have the rise you're after though.
Seat: Selle Italia makes an 88 gram seat. It looks fvcking awful though....I wouldn't run it for street, but that depends on how much you use your seat I guess...

And then in the future...

Maxle Lite
Formula R1 brake...apparently under 280 grams complete, and there's an even lighter version coming out.

Windowlicker

08-12-2008, 02:27 AM

my buddy has a maxle light on his new revelation. i forget the number but the range is 90-100 grams in weight. ill find out tomorrow and get scale pics

aeffertz

08-12-2008, 02:59 AM

Selle Italia CX Zero
81 g
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q237/efferal91/seat.jpg
Or if you want some padding...
Selle Italia CX Zero Teknologika
96 g
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q237/efferal91/seat2.jpg

Pesling

08-12-2008, 05:43 AM

I want a maxle lite, but you can't get here in germany.
Seat looks ugly :D - want a beautiful ride!

Windowlicker

08-12-2008, 01:02 PM

I want a maxle lite, but you can't get here in germany.
Seat looks ugly :D - want a beautiful ride!

alittle cash can solve that problem
: D

Pesling

08-12-2008, 06:54 PM

got a link for me? :D

Windowlicker

08-12-2008, 07:50 PM

ive got hook ups.
pm me if your actually interested

Savage_Animal

08-12-2008, 09:00 PM

I can't remember if you veto'd any of this, but...

Tires: Maxxis Maxxlite 310s. I know of at least one street rider that runs them, and he's had nothing but success.
Handlebars: Answer Pro-taper. It may not have the rise you're after though.

I have both the protaper bars and the maxxlite 310 in the rear, although I havent ridden it yet, it looks pretty legit:

http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/11/77/23/43/dscf1010.jpg
http://i57.servimg.com/u/f57/11/77/23/43/dscf1011.jpg

Bicyclist

08-12-2008, 11:11 PM

Wow, that thing is off the hook. What frame is that?

Windowlicker

08-13-2008, 12:17 AM

savage animals is a suburban

stino

08-14-2008, 07:33 AM

another tip: make sure to lube your chain with oil, not heavy grease.

Pesling

09-07-2008, 07:01 PM

Got some good news - I'm under 10kg right now - Marzocchi axle still to come (will save more!)

Frame - blkmrkt Mob 2006 raw, thin colored
Fork - Rock Shox "Pevelation", Uppers from Revelation 426, Downside from Pike 454, Inside from Reba and Revelation Dual, 70mm travel, extra stiff
Handlebars - Funn Full On Sam Hill Editon, 1,5" rise, 30" wide
Stem - blkmrkt Underboss stem with ti-bolts, upside-down
Headset - FSA Impact
Grips - Animal Edwin cutted
Barends - blkmrkt plastic
Saddle - Odyssey Junior
Seatpost - Thomson Elite with ti-bolts, cutted as much as possible
Rear brake - Hope Mono Mini 6"
Cranks - Leafcycles Motosticks with Leafcycles EuroBB
Sprocket - St Martin Ringp Sprocket 26t
Chain - KMC X10SL
Cog - Point 12t cog with NG Sports Konverter
Pedals - Wellgo MG-1 Titanium spindle
Front hub - NS Bikes Roller Simple 20
Rear hub - Hope Pro II bolt-in with ti-bolts
Front rim - Mavic XM719
Rear rim - Mavic XM719
Spockes - DT Revolution 2.0/1.5 3 times crossed
Nipples - DT alloy
Tyres - Schwalbe Racing Ralph 26x2.1
Tubes - Schwalbe XX-Light 14a

http://img.skitch.com/20080907-drxs6wbmqrdexyxa8hhqxyytry.jpg

aeffertz

09-07-2008, 07:36 PM

Awesome!
The more you ride it, the lighter it will get.
Because the knobs will wear down... haha.

escapeartist

09-07-2008, 08:38 PM

Got some good news - I'm under 10kg right now
YAYYY!! Got any riding shots?

t1maglio

09-07-2008, 09:28 PM

I like riding shots better then scale shots. That bike might actually get heavier from dust collecting on it ;-) Destroy that thing!

Windowlicker

09-07-2008, 11:08 PM

That's so incredibly dialed man!

Pesling

09-10-2008, 07:27 PM

Got my new Leafcycles Evoblock Stem with ti-bolts :D - save 18g

http://img.skitch.com/20080910-qah8pufrcytw85fa75ss22jt88.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20080910-gcqkndd1ppeebu6mg9ewwhhs7r.jpg

http://img.skitch.com/20080910-bd7kj5h5fa6gur259dyr7s8t7i.jpg

aeffertz

09-10-2008, 07:55 PM

So, where'd the plastic pedals go?

juanbeegas

09-10-2008, 08:24 PM

Ever considered Middleburn RS7s for cranks? Arm only weights are 416g(claimed) for ISIS arms and 431g (claimed) for Squares... Would these be lighter than what you've currently got?

Pesling

09-11-2008, 03:26 AM

So, where'd the plastic pedals go?

The grip was not so good and they are too heavy. My MGs are at 297g with ti-spindle.
Middleburn are not build for d/s

juanbeegas

09-11-2008, 06:30 AM

Middleburn are not build for d/s

Why not? According to Bikeradar.com, they have "LIFETIME warranty against defects in materials or workmanship*, covers competitive DH, trials and jumping!"

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/cranksets/product/rs7-11563

Pesling

09-11-2008, 11:57 AM

Why not? According to Bikeradar.com, they have "LIFETIME warranty against defects in materials or workmanship*, covers competitive DH, trials and jumping!"

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/components/cranksets/product/rs7-11563

They are ugly and not stiff :D

7075

09-12-2008, 03:50 PM

This person (http://spag.pinkbike.com/buysell/341030/) might have some info for you. His bike is claimed at 20lbs although he does have a rigid on it.

Windowlicker

09-12-2008, 04:48 PM

TankerX

09-12-2008, 11:40 PM

go tubeless!

juanbeegas

09-13-2008, 12:20 AM

Pesling

09-13-2008, 04:05 AM

It also comes in a square taper and in all honesty, I don't really think this guy knows much about the cranks in question. He first claims it's not for DS and then he says they're not stiff and that they're ugly when I link him to a review of the crank that clearly states it's used for Trials and DH. I mean if he finds them ugly and don't want to use them, I can understand that, but to say they're not stiff when I highly doubt that he's ever tried them, well...

I rode them a long time ago, they flexing/moving as hell (weak alloy) - I know that they are strong enough for DH or anything else but they suck :D - I broke 5 alloy cranks and so I don't want to ride **** ;) - Leafcycles Motosticks are real stiff, strong, lite and especially made for MTB (longer spindle) - and they're lookin' ****in' awesome!

http://img.skitch.com/20080913-rbubimcaa94c91sxibayax9hmr.jpg

grom-dom

09-13-2008, 11:27 AM

get eastern ti or hindenburg ti cranks? or magnataniums?

Pesling

09-13-2008, 11:29 AM

get eastern ti or hindenburg ti cranks? or magnataniums?

both made for BMX not MTB, spindle is too short. And both don't save much weight.

grom-dom

09-13-2008, 12:33 PM

easterns are 16oz for arms and spindle. you can get the arms and use a profile ti spindle too i believe

Pesling

09-13-2008, 12:36 PM

easterns are 16oz for arms and spindle. you can get the arms and use a profile ti spindle too i believe

Don't works. Eastern = Taiwan, Profile = U,S&A - not the same mass

Patan-DH

10-16-2008, 05:27 PM

I rode them a long time ago, they flexing/moving as hell (weak alloy) - I know that they are strong enough for DH or anything else but they suck :D - I broke 5 alloy cranks and so I don't want to ride **** ;) - Leafcycles Motosticks are real stiff, strong, lite and especially made for MTB (longer spindle) - and they're lookin' ****in' awesome!

http://img.skitch.com/20080913-rbubimcaa94c91sxibayax9hmr.jpg

The welds on that crankset looks pretty ****ty man.