what $15k looks like...

[-dustin]

http://www.pbase.com/inbred/image/98240603/large.jpg

sub-14lbs now. putting on some Zipp 202 tubies, a lighter post, and something else...basically, the guy came up and said "lighten it up."

[MtnbikeMike]

:eek: Wow, that doesn't look like it should cost 14k.

What wheels are on there right now?

[-dustin]

Fulcrum Racing Light...$3k or so.

King Ti headset

Campy Record bottle cages

Custom Reynolds fork (bike is very, very small. The top tube is actually a seat tube.)

Full Record

Egg Beater triple Tis

[MtnbikeMike]

Chetballs, is this guy rolling in dough?

[-dustin]

Yeah....his other pedals are $500 NJS platforms. This bike is over a year old and is pristine. He owns some apartment complexes around here and supposedly only rides around the complexes.

[gonefirefightin]

I know what 15 large looks like and that aint it. it is missing a few ingredients, hookers, blow, vegas, cops and barf

[blue]

Definite little man syndrome going on there...

[splat]

How small is the rider who rides that ? that frame is tiny

[ire]

For $15k I would think that it would be lighter. I have a friend who has a Scott Addict at 12lbs and he didn't spend close to that much

[DirtyMike]

For $15k I would think that it would be lighter. I have a friend who has a Scott Addict at 12lbs and he didn't spend close to that much

Agreed, I think there is a bit of name buying going on with that bike, we have built up a couple 14 pounders for less than 15K. Couple Orbeas, couple Biani's. But most were Idependant Fab frames, no big name fancy smancy wheels, usually mavic open pro's. no need to get the most expensive parts to get a light bike, Unless you like having bragging rights to I have this part and I have this part with these names ETC!!!

[ultraNoob]

Tell him that you can make it super light by making it a fixie... just gonna cost him another 500 in parts and 500 in labor :thumb:

[-dustin]

How small is the rider who rides that ? that frame is tiny
5'3"-ish, maybe?

He wasn't going for the lightest parts, but...really, the most showy. Bling.

[DirtyMike]

Thats what I thought. We have a few customers that are all about the biggest "I have's" They have already preordered the new Electronic DA systems just so they can be the first to have them.

[MtnbikeMike]

Thats what I thought. We have a few customers that are all about the biggest "I have's" They have already preordered the new Electronic DA systems just so they can be the first to have them.

Is it supposed to be out next year?

[DirtyMike]

Is it supposed to be out next year?

We are supposed to have a set by December






P.S. We still do not know what they are going to do with the battery pack. Will be interesting to see what they come up with. I know the old zipp stuff the battery was pushed into the handle bars.

[ire]

here is the latest photo I could find. I like Campy's idea of integrating the battery into the bottle cage

http://www.cyclingnews.com/tech.php?id=tech/2008/features/shimano_da09_rumours_mar08

http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/tech/features/shimano_da09_rumours_mar08/Shimano_E-DA_battery.jpg

[DirtyMike]

I like that, its clean, and it sits low on the bike. One thing I do know for sure, is the DA system is going to be rapid rise style, where the spring will pull to the granny gear. Not sure how they will run it on the lever, but the derailer itself will be the low normal<I think thats how you say that>

[ire]

I like that, its clean, and it sits low on the bike. One thing I do know for sure, is the DA system is going to be rapid rise style, where the spring will pull to the granny gear. Not sure how they will run it on the lever, but the derailer itself will be the low normal<I think thats how you say that>

It will be interesting to see how that pans out, I wonder what their riders think? I've heard, all second hand, that rapid rise shifts better than standard der. I've always ran the standard type ders.

[-dustin]

i prefer rapid rise on mtb applications. it is, however, much more sensitive to excess friction.

[DirtyMike]

Rapid rise doesnt really shift any better, but if you are shifting alot, you will notice less hand fatigue. It is easier to Pull your derailer down to the smallest cog with the cable, than vice versa. Part of the reason they are using a Low normal derailer setup. with the electronic shifts, should be zero hand fatigue from shifting.

[FR4life.]

I think it's time for hydraulic derailleurs.:thumb:

[MtnbikeMike]

Rapid rise doesnt really shift any better, but if you are shifting alot, you will notice less hand fatigue. It is easier to Pull your derailer down to the smallest cog with the cable, than vice versa. Part of the reason they are using a Low normal derailer setup. with the electronic shifts, should be zero hand fatigue from shifting.

Maybe they're thinking it will improve battery life because the motor won't have to work as hard?

[ire]

I think it's time for hydraulic derailleurs.:thumb:

I saw an article about a guy who made his own hydraulic shifting system, I think the article was on weight weenies......interesting idea. I have a set of airlines from Shimano, and I have to say it shifts faster and more crisp than most

[DirtyMike]

Maybe they're thinking it will improve battery life because the motor won't have to work as hard?

Thats exactly what they are thinking, also it will extend the actuator life as well, and allow for a smaller battery meaning less weight.


I just want to get them in and see how they look

[DirtyMike]

I saw an article about a guy who made his own hydraulic shifting system, I think the article was on weight weenies......interesting idea. I have a set of airlines from Shimano, and I have to say it shifts faster and more crisp than most

Air shifts were pretty cool, I never spent any time on them, I liked the idea, I just saw too many problems to get overly excited about them

[James]

I saw an article about a guy who made his own hydraulic shifting system, I think the article was on weight weenies......interesting idea. I have a set of airlines from Shimano, and I have to say it shifts faster and more crisp than most

S.A.F.E., Scott Allen Fife Enterprises made that hydro shifter. It was an old article right? The guy had the system set up on a Crosstrac Sonoma. Man, I'm old.

Airlines! I had a set, but couldn't get them set up properly. I totally want another to make a rad townie...

[ire]

S.A.F.E., Scott Allen Fife Enterprises made that hydro shifter. It was an old article right? The guy had the system set up on a Crosstrac Sonoma. Man, I'm old.

Airlines! I had a set, but couldn't get them set up properly. I totally want another to make a rad townie...

The airlines were great for DH becuase you never had a problem with ghost shifts, but recharging the tank can get irritating. I actually used three smaller tanks and it allowed for easier mounting and they had more air volume, it was a pretty trick setup

[DirtyMike]

Wow, did we Hijack the F#ck out of this thread or what!!!!

[James]

Wow, did we Hijack the F#ck out of this thread or what!!!!

I seen this dog once...

[DirtyMike]

Was he chasing you??? Or were you aiming for the dog?

[James]

Was he chasing you??? Or were you aiming for the dog?

Actually, I totally had a dog give me the "what's up" nod as I rode by, then about 5 seconds later went apesh!t chasing my buddy.
Rad.

[Westy]

I seen this dog once...


A dog went after a local group ride while in strung out paceline dick swinging mode. end result was a lot of road rash and a dead dog.

[MtnbikeMike]

What kinda dog?

[DirtyMike]

A fourlegged one!!!

[MtnbikeMike]

I heard grizzly bears up in Alaska have four legs too.

[ire]

A fourlegged one!!!

one of those four legged bastards almost took me out on my way to work this morning. BTW, we have possums in our neighborhood

[DirtyMike]

Possums suck, they panic and just stop..... I tell ya, them bastads will teach you how to Bunny hop on a road bike for sure