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SuspectDevice
06-06-2008, 03:59 PM
Marketing hype sells bikes, but it doesn't win races. I set out a few months ago to design a 6061 road race frame with 4 goals in mind...
1. 1000gram frame weight.
2. ~$750 retail price.
3. 100% USA tubing and construction.
4. A smooth ride with plenty of vertical and horizontal deflection built in.
And here's the fruit of all that,
The Skeletor
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/SuspectDevice413/skeletorinhall2.gif
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/SuspectDevice413/headtube2.gif
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/SuspectDevice413/toptube.gif
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/SuspectDevice413/chainstay.gif
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/SuspectDevice413/dropout.gif
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r277/SuspectDevice413/dropout2.gif
With a Red build and the most excellent Edge fork my bike comes in at 15.2 pounds. That's light enough that it will be right at the weight limit if you swap the fulcrums for race wheels, and run a powermeter to make up the weight.
How's it ride? I can't describe it, without sounding both impartial, and insane...
OGRipper
06-06-2008, 04:48 PM
Looks great, super clean and simple.
How's it ride? I can't describe it, without sounding both impartial, and insane...
Come on, give it a shot, we'll employ our bias filters.
dhmike
06-06-2008, 04:53 PM
nice ride ! i'd rock one.
SuspectDevice
06-06-2008, 05:20 PM
Looks great, super clean and simple.
Come on, give it a shot, we'll employ our bias filters.
In our less than un-biased opinions it is smoother riding than the TCR advance, Sworks Roubaix and IF Crown Jewels we have in the shop. And of course, it's really freaking light, but not overly stiff and dead feeling.
The fact that the weight per dollar ratio is considerably better than anything else out there, and that it's as domestic as possible is really just icing on the cake....
I mean there's nothing wrong with $10,000 bike made in China that are heavier and less comfortable, right?
UNHrider
06-07-2008, 01:03 PM
nice looking ride mickey
Cross version please :) That is damn impressive, especially for that price range
ultraNoob
06-07-2008, 01:18 PM
Das just sexy!
narlus
06-07-2008, 09:13 PM
mickey, that bike looks über sexy. great work.
OGRipper
06-08-2008, 10:57 AM
Sounds really great. Price, availability, sizing? Didn't see anything on the website. (I vote that the spam police give you a pass...)
Sounds really great. Price, availability, sizing? Didn't see anything on the website. (I vote that the spam police give you a pass...)
He said the pricing was going to be around $750, which makes it that much more impressive to me
MtnbikeMike
06-08-2008, 11:22 AM
Was that fork made with the stolen 'secret' process? ;)
Sweet-looking bike! What's the weight of the one shown?
PS. Skeletor is by far the coolest name for a bike :thumb:
SuspectDevice
06-08-2008, 06:56 PM
Sounds really great. Price, availability, sizing? Didn't see anything on the website. (I vote that the spam police give you a pass...)
I'll get around to doing a big update next week some time, but sloping sizes with 52, 54, 56, 58 effective top tubes is the game. Tubing, geometry, etc varies between sizes, but my 54 (49 center-top) is 73.5 seat, 73 head. We can ship black Ano end of next week, and powdercoated frames ~9 days from order. (Next run we'll be making odd's instead of evens)
Colors; Black Ano (stock), any color powder imagineable, +$60
Price, $750 for Ano, $810 powder. Frame and Edge 2.0 fork, $1,000.
Availability- Any bikeshop on earth can shoot us a call. Competitively priced custom completes available.
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Spam completed
James
06-08-2008, 07:19 PM
Sweet. I could see rocking one in baby blue in a heartbeat. However my quiver is a bit too full at the moment...
OGRipper
06-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Hmm, sounds really tasty. I'm curious about top tube lengths and other numbers and will look for a more complete geo chart.
Also, the thread title raises some questions - I am not exactly He-Man but I am about 6'1" and a pretty fit 200 lbs, and I ride fairly aggressively at times. You got any max rider weight or other thoughts?
SuspectDevice
06-09-2008, 03:26 PM
Hmm, sounds really tasty. I'm curious about top tube lengths and other numbers and will look for a more complete geo chart.
Also, the thread title raises some questions - I am not exactly He-Man but I am about 6'1" and a pretty fit 200 lbs, and I ride fairly aggressively at times. You got any max rider weight or other thoughts?
It's the Skeletor... The thread title is a sort of pun.
Google Image result #6for "Skeletor"
http://www.ulrichfluhme.com/skeletor.jpg
No rider weight limit necessary on these, extra burritos are appreciated.
Angles are scaled, along with the tubing with sizing, but tt lengths are evens 52- 58.8, and seat angles are between 74 and 73, getting slacker as the sizes go up. Head angles scale from 72 on the small to 73.5 on the largest.
James
06-09-2008, 04:03 PM
57-57.5cm TT, baby blue, no fork.
I'll send you some shoes.
;)
SuspectDevice
06-09-2008, 04:47 PM
57-57.5cm TT, baby blue, no fork.
I'll send you some shoes.
;)
One of my Pro's needs some mtb shoes, 46. Needs to match a spacesuit.
That pic of Rasmussen is gross….I knew he was skinny and all…
James
06-09-2008, 05:50 PM
One of my Pro's needs some mtb shoes, 46. Needs to match a spacesuit.
Space suit?
Like this:
http://sidiusa.com/images/Ergo2Carb_SteelLux_m.jpg
Or
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/tech/news/02-07/Ergo2carb_CAMPIONE_111.jpg
Secret Squirrel
06-09-2008, 06:33 PM
Space suit?
Like this:
http://sidiusa.com/images/Ergo2Carb_SteelLux_m.jpg
Or
http://www.cyclingnews.com/photos/2008/tech/news/02-07/Ergo2carb_CAMPIONE_111.jpg
Is it wrong that I want to rock those with cut-off jean shorts and a tee that says "Yuck the Fankees" @ whistler?
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