Trail / Riding Common Sense

[DownCycles_Stef]

I hate to become a message-board bitcher but, we need to try and emphasize some common sense among everyone riding at both Diablo and elsewhere. Over the last few weeks at Diablo I've ran into WAY to many people who are stopped mindlessly in the middle of a trail with no attention being paid to riders that may be coming down who may or may not be able to see those who are stopped.

I have no problem with people stopping on their bikes in the middle of a run, hell, it's necessary sometimes if your unfamiliar with a section. You should only do so however if your only going to be stopped for 10-30 seconds and you know that no one else is coming up behind you. If you are going to be stopped for any period of time longer than 30 seconds on your bike or ANY length of time off your bike, MOVE YOU AND YOUR BIKE SAFELY OFF THE TRAIL! I nearly ran into a group of 3-4 riders last weekend who were quite literally sitting at the start of the drop on Tempest and had their bikes laying across the trail above it. I was even given attitude by the riders when I politely suggested that they should just move their stuff off to the side because it was in a blind spot and because you do need some speed to clear the landing on the drop.

Even today I nearly ran into some people at the bottom of the jump before the SRAM berm who were chilling on their bikes just off to the side but not paying attention before continuing down the run. This is not out of anger but concern, if you block ANY trail or are not AWARE of your surroundings, you may pose a serious risk to yourself and other riders.

I love seeing all these new riders out on the hill, it's awesome. I NEVER complain if I come up on a slow rider when I'm out freeriding. I DO get concerned and aggravated when I see people being irresponsible on the trail though. Spread the word to everyone riding to think and use common sense on the trail. The last thing our sport needs is careless injuries and accidents.

That being said, other than separating my shoulder today (that's what I get for running high pressure after getting tired of replacing tubes...2 today), AWESOME day out there. It was awesome to see so many new riders out there today.

-Stef

[demo 9]

finally, took long enough LISTEN TO HIM

[bobushka king]

i agree, a couple times this year I came very close to running people over because they were stopped in the trail. First was on upper breakout a group of people were just chilling on the left side of the trail after the table and today someone was walking back up Salvation (on the trail) right after the reverse rainbow jump.

I think everyone on here knows the "rules" but the newer people on the mountain need to realize that if they need to stop, just pull into the woods and out of the way. Also it's a bad idea to stop anywhere where riders on the trail come at you blind.

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[FOXROX]

not sure what one fits best...

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[DownhillR3]

It's always hard to do top to bottom runs without running into a group somewhere on the mountain just talking in the middle of the trail, especially on weekends and even more-so on the more popular trails, but thats a no-brainer. Once Diablo opens for 7 days a week, it will quiet down like usual and the mountain crowds will disapate somewhat. I know this is nit-picking but these past few weekends it has been more then average annoying with people stopped in bad places on trails but there really isn't anything Diablo can do about it unless they hold the first-timers hands coming down the trails. Most of these people are old enough to have COMMONSENSE, but for some reason they don't apply it. I've learned by now to just expect it and if I do come up on someone crawling and they don't move, to just stop on the side & give them awhile so I can get a clean run where I can then pass on the fireroad. The most Diablo can do is tell people or have more signs but this subject comes up way to much about problems with people stopped on trails.

Excuse my grammar, I know there's alot of mistakes.

[demo 9]

domination two last year takes the cake for me. somebody sittin in the MIDDLE OF RACE COURSE talking as i came over gully jump.... i smashed into him so hard. one tacoed wheel later i think he learned his lesson. at least my bike didnt break though...

[DownCycles_Stef]

I totally agree that there's not really anything Diablo or any mountain can do themselves, I think it's really just up to the regulars and more experienced riders to just speak up and be a bit more vocal rather than just riding by. A simple polite reminder for people should be enough, especially if they are as startled as we are when near-misses happen.

[WhoRyder]

I always let folks know that it's not a good idea to block the trails....

[konarider1283]

like Justin said, took long enough lol. its really a problem for ppl...i noticed it BIG time today with people stopping around. hopefully they'll get a clue...-_-

[BrooklynMachine]

other than separating my shoulder today ... AWESOME day out there. It was awesome to see so many new riders out there today.

-Stef

Ooof. Heal up, man.

Agreed that it's mostly newer riders. Beginner skiiers usually take some kind of introduction course to pizza wedge the bunny slopes but almost anyone with an interest and a bike can buy a lift ticket to hit the mountain in the summer.
Maybe a casual bike patrol could help to enforce the rules, otherwise, some well placed just might be enough.

[pinkshirtphotos]

if we all stay off the trails there would be no safety hazards. Everyone go home and play some sega.

[BrooklynMachine]

Or Diablo Wii (http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/show_article.php?id=64). Remember to wear your full face!

[maddogdh]

No doubt that it is rad too see lots of riders at Diablo, but then blocking trails starts to happen with 3-4 riders sometimes. I'm not here to lecture man, woman or child , but for those that are new to the park get off the trail if stoped for everyones saftey. That just means bike and rider to the side so that others can shred, rip and flow without "Human" obstacles. By all means it is necessary and even nice to have a stop to shoot the s**t now and then. Hope we all had good times on our bikes and I will be handing out parking tickets next week. Ha, Ha, Ha

[konarider1283]

other than a possible injury on the trail, this should be perfectly capable among everyone to do so. Hopefully we can get the word out sme more

[tree hugger]

unfortunately almost everyone who reads this already knows the deal. Plattekill had (has?) a mandatory intro video. It is stupid basic for experienced riders, but at least it puts the trail rules on peoples minds.

we just need to keep our heads up, learn to live with it and hope no one gets seriously hurt. The beginner movement is here to stay and it is mostly a good thing.

[IAMAPRO]

Stay the fvck outta the way from the chute into Alpine, not everyone needs to stop and sretch their fingers and mouths. I saw some of you who are bitching doing just this.:crazy: and as far as Salvation, after the 2nd kicker you are on the begginer trail and should expect to see all sorts of fvcked up ****.

[WhoRyder]

Stay the fvck outta the way from the chute into Alpine, not everyone needs to stop and sretch their fingers and mouths. I saw some of you who are bitching doing just this.:crazy: and as far as Salvation, after the 2nd kicker you are on the begginer trail and should expect to see all sorts of fvcked up ****.

Chute into Alpine?

In front of Chute De Satchem? Myself and probably 95% of the riders chill atop of alpine (in the fire road) which technically is not a TRAIL.... we like to give people space before going forward to prevent accidents/Crashes in alpine...

[dhsean]

I'm all for the top to bottom runs with out stopping but Alpine is always backed up. It's to be expected since you have to give riders space on Alpine with varied skill levels. However, I always have to remind myself that some people do like to go straight into Ripper.

[konarider1283]

the top of Alpine is probably the biggest stopping spot for riders. aside from the top of lower dominion I'd say. Those are definitely not trails though, so if that's what you consider the trail than well, get a clue :thumb:.

[spylab]

I know that there is a Responsibility Code for Diablo; perhaps if it's a big enough problem they could install small signs on each of the gondolas during the season. Since there's not much to do for the 5 or 6 minutes up besides shoot the **** with your buddies, having something important to read would benefit both beginners and regular riders.

[DownCycles_Stef]

Ooof. Heal up, man.

Agreed that it's mostly newer riders. Beginner skiiers usually take some kind of introduction course to pizza wedge the bunny slopes but almost anyone with an interest and a bike can buy a lift ticket to hit the mountain in the summer.
Maybe a casual bike patrol could help to enforce the rules, otherwise, some well placed just might be enough.

Thanks bro, I have a feeling if I was on my TMX with 3.0's instead of my ECD I probably wouldn't have pinch-flatted twice and decided to run high-pressure while riding dry trails (which lead to a nice slide-out right before the flume drop), I'm dumb.

I agree with everyone that places like the top of Alpine definitely are NOT trails. And to be quite honest, you can clearly scope out the top of Alpine from the top of Chute-de-Satchum and know in advance what's below. While I know everyone here already pretty much knows the "rules" all I'm saying is to politely remind people of it, which seems to be what everyone has or now intends to do from now on.

I also think Diablo may want to consider the difficulty designation of some trails at the mountain. I was talking and overheard a number of people in the lot this Sunday talking about how they may take another run and "try-out" a Blue run instead of just constantly riding Greenhorn, and this was at like 1:00. Those guys had limited themselves to one trail all day! I really think that if a trail like Domboo! can be labeled as a green, something like Triple Drop or Dirt Merchant certainly qualifies as a Blue. I just feel like the black diamond designation of some trails makes new riders feel limited when in reality those trails aren't really all that advanced. I realize that investing in all new signs is probably a pretty expensive ordeal for Diablo, but it's just something to consider for the future.

[IAMAPRO]

the top of Alpine is probably the biggest stopping spot for riders. aside from the top of lower dominion I'd say. Those are definitely not trails though, so if that's what you consider the trail than well, get a clue :thumb:.

The area at upper is different because it is out of the way. The top of alpine should be left open for riders who like to bomb top to bottom. You should try it some time.:thumb:

[Instigatr]

Thanks bro, I have a feeling if I was on my TMX with 3.0's instead of my ECD I probably wouldn't have pinch-flatted twice and decided to run high-pressure while riding dry trails (which lead to a nice slide-out right before the flume drop), I'm dumb.

I agree with everyone that places like the top of Alpine definitely are NOT trails. And to be quite honest, you can clearly scope out the top of Alpine from the top of Chute-de-Satchum and know in advance what's below. While I know everyone here already pretty much knows the "rules" all I'm saying is to politely remind people of it, which seems to be what everyone has or now intends to do from now on.

I also think Diablo may want to consider the difficulty designation of some trails at the mountain. I was talking and overheard a number of people in the lot this Sunday talking about how they may take another run and "try-out" a Blue run instead of just constantly riding Greenhorn, and this was at like 1:00. Those guys had limited themselves to one trail all day! I really think that if a trail like Domboo! can be labeled as a green, something like Triple Drop or Dirt Merchant certainly qualifies as a Blue. I just feel like the black diamond designation of some trails makes new riders feel limited when in reality those trails aren't really all that advanced. I realize that investing in all new signs is probably a pretty expensive ordeal for Diablo, but it's just something to consider for the future.


I agree. Everyone who posts(or just visits) here basically knows the rules. We are preaching to the choir... (Quire, sp.?)

And I have run from top to bottom without stopping. It's a bitch, and it's awesome.

[NJHCx4xLIFE]

The area at upper is different because it is out of the way. The top of alpine should be left open for riders who like to bomb top to bottom. You should try it some time.:thumb:


I'm not sure if you got the memo but the ski trail where everyone hangs out at alpine is about 100ft wide, you are less that three feet wide. Plenty of room to go around everyone and hit slayer or whatever you want over there and continue your gnar top to bottom runs. There is always going to be a wait at the top of alpine, thats the breaks.

[Instigatr]

I'm not sure if you got the memo but the ski trail where everyone hangs out at alpine is about 100ft wide, you are less that three feet wide. Plenty of room to go around everyone and hit slayer or whatever you want over there and continue your gnar top to bottom runs. There is always going to be a wait at the top of alpine, thats the breaks.

You all know when you are resting at the top of Alpine and someone comes down, doesn't stop and rest and smokes right onto Alpine, you think "Damn, he's good" (or crazy)

[IAMAPRO]

I'm not sure if you got the memo but the ski trail where everyone hangs out at alpine is about 100ft wide, you are less that three feet wide. Plenty of room to go around everyone and hit slayer or whatever you want over there and continue your gnar top to bottom runs. There is always going to be a wait at the top of alpine, thats the breaks.

Not sure if you got the memo, but thats Ripper not Slayer, and if all these whinning bitches want to complain, then I can have a gripe too. :rant:

Instignar, always use "*Hint of sarcasm", or something, it makes the post flow alot better. If it is sarcasm then explain why someone who can bomb top to bottom must deal with the bull**** crew at the Alpine entrance.

[Fall Guy]

Stay the fvck outta the way from the chute into Alpine, not everyone needs to stop and sretch their fingers and mouths. I saw some of you who are bitching doing just this.:crazy: and as far as Salvation, after the 2nd kicker you are on the begginer trail and should expect to see all sorts of fvcked up ****.

Most people including myself are waiting for slower riders to get down Alpine a bit so we don't have to catch up and ruin our runs. To many beginners riding Alpine to expect a clear run down. :crazy:

[cracked]

...I also think Diablo may want to consider the difficulty designation of some trails at the mountain. I was talking and overheard a number of people in the lot this Sunday talking about how they may take another run and "try-out" a Blue run instead of just constantly riding Greenhorn, and this was at like 1:00. Those guys had limited themselves to one trail all day! I really think that if a trail like Domboo! can be labeled as a green, something like Triple Drop or Dirt Merchant certainly qualifies as a Blue. I just feel like the black diamond designation of some trails makes new riders feel limited when in reality those trails aren't really all that advanced. I realize that investing in all new signs is probably a pretty expensive ordeal for Diablo, but it's just something to consider for the future.

I have to agree 100% with this statement.
My very time at Diablo and my very first time on a DH rig on a DH mountain was a couple of weeks ago. I am a solid rider with good bike skills.
Greenhorn was closed the day I came and my very first run DH was Twist. A black diamond labeled trail. It didn't feel, to a newb like myself, to be a BD. It felt more intermediate(blue). AFter Twist I think we hit Breakout. and Lower Breakout FELT harder than the BD.
I also hit Triple drop and Dirt merchant and those also FELT easier than BD. The "hardest" trail section for me that day was Tempset[???starting from the fire road, behind the little house](lowest section...steep rock rockgarden)....that felt like a real BD.
Again....I'm a newb.....but I'm fairly confident on my bike and I think it would serve Diablo well to reclassify some of the BD's and Blue's. This is just my two cents. I think that it will give the "beginner" riders more options. Cause the day I was there....I felt truly limited for my first run and had no chance to "warm up" and become accustomed to the weird geometry of the DH rig( a rental to boot). I think giving riders more of an "option" will prevent people from getting in over their heads and BLOCKING the trail when a more experienced riders comes tearing down behind them, while they are trying to figure out if they can finish the ride down.
I think people put a lot of importance on labels....so if a rider came to a blue trail as opposed to a black trail the wouldn't feel over their heads and would then have more confidence to send a run without having to stop and block the trail.(you know, mind over matter!)
BUT.....as all mountain bikers know.....it is BAD JUJU to block a trail, whether it's XC or DH or paved......don't be disrespectful and selfish and step off to the side!!

[Instigatr]

Not sure if you got the memo, but thats Ripper not Slayer, and if all these whinning bitches want to complain, then I can have a gripe too. :rant:

Instignar, always use "*Hint of sarcasm", or something, it makes the post flow alot better. If it is sarcasm then explain why someone who can bomb top to bottom must deal with the bull**** crew at the Alpine entrance.

Hint of sarcasm is stated in my screen name.

[IAMAPRO]

Hint of sarcasm is stated in my screen name.

OK, will make that note. My mistake.:wave:

[NJHCx4xLIFE]

Not sure if you got the memo, but thats Ripper not Slayer, and if all these whinning bitches want to complain, then I can have a gripe too. :rant:

Instignar, always use "*Hint of sarcasm", or something, it makes the post flow alot better. If it is sarcasm then explain why someone who can bomb top to bottom must deal with the bull**** crew at the Alpine entrance.


As stated before... if you want to bomb top to bottom then ride during the week or skip alpine and go down RIPPER, crap chute to the lower part of RIPPER or domboo. Also stated before utilize the 70 something feet to the right of the crew. These people have a legitimate gripe when people are in the middle of an actual trail, you sir do not.

And Instigatr, I agree, those guys really are so good and really impress all their friends and me with doing that. It most likely has to do with genetics and they will just simply be better than us. :(

[IAMAPRO]

It most likely has to do with genetics and they will just simply be better than us. :(

Ha, the flaming begins. NJHC4life, except when riding? You gotta be harder than that, right? I bet Runnin12's could beat you to the bottom with Tufinos bike tied to his ass.

[NJHCx4xLIFE]

Ha, the flaming begins. NJHC4life, except when riding? You gotta be harder than that, right? I bet Runnin12's could beat you to the bottom with Tufinos bike tied to his ass.

Huh, was that funny, and insult, both? The genetics comment wasn't even to you or about you.

Chill out dude, everyone takes teh internets so seriouz. You came busting in this thread like the fun police and I simply suggested to go around alpine if you want to do a top to bottom run. Apparently others agree.

I also failed to get the memo that riding bikes wasn't about having fun. Apparently some guy can beat me with a bike tied to his ass... UH OH. I'm there to have fun and ride my bike not have a testosterone contest. No matter what, you are going to win and be right, I mean how could someone who can do one whole run top to bottom be wrong. :poster_oops:

[cecil]

im proabally going to get pounded for this, but what is wrong with stopping saying hey welcoming the new riders. they spend money here and that will fund more improvements.
i dont think any of you riders that are there every sat. and sun. will die if you have to slow down once or twice say a friendly hello, direct them to a trail they might like, get them out of your way. i drive four hours to ride here and i do not want a bunch of fools in my way either.

[IAMAPRO]

Huh, was that funny, and insult, both? The genetics comment wasn't even to you or about you.

Chill out dude, everyone takes teh internets so seriouz. You came busting in this thread like the fun police and I simply suggested to go around alpine if you want to do a top to bottom run. Apparently others agree.

I also failed to get the memo that riding bikes wasn't about having fun. Apparently some guy can beat me with a bike tied to his ass... UH OH. I'm there to have fun and ride my bike not have a testosterone contest. No matter what, you are going to win and be right, I mean how could someone who can do one whole run top to bottom be wrong. :poster_oops:

Your right, but still wrong (about Slayer). My point was that if your gonna bitch about the bitches, get outta the way to those hauling ass. And i am sure you can beat RunninMouth to the bottom even if it were you that had a yellow R9 tied to your ass (with a 4sale sign on it).

[IAMAPRO]

im proabally going to get pounded for this, but what is wrong with stopping saying hey welcoming the new riders. they spend money here and that will fund more improvements.
i dont think any of you riders that are there every sat. and sun. will die if you have to slow down once or twice say a friendly hello, direct them to a trail they might like, get them out of your way. i drive four hours to ride here and i do not want a bunch of fools in my way either.

Been trolling have ya? Welcome to RideMonkey. Take a seat and listen to the voice of reason reiterate the same **** over and over, much like a high school classroom.

[cecil]

you want me to listen to my self?!?!!?!?!?!

[bobushka king]

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[NJHCx4xLIFE]

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[bobushka king]

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[konarider1283]

The area at upper is different because it is out of the way. The top of alpine should be left open for riders who like to bomb top to bottom. You should try it some time.:thumb:

you sir, need to kindly just quit your b*tching and get over yourself. I can do a top to bottom run actually, I just choose not to because personally there's no reason to unless im trying to do a speed run. why wipe myself out when I don't need to? get off your high horse and calm it down a bit. and i bet if you yelled a heads up when you came outta chute de satchum im sure people would kindly move so you could proceed down alpine. But probably with anyones luck who wants to do this, like almost everyone else said, you'll get stuck behind a new rider whos taking the trail nice and slow. The only reason why I stop at the top anyways is just so that I can look ahead and not get aggravated because someones taking the trail slower than I would. Get a clue before you open your mouth next time :disgust1:

[TeeDee]

We can all fix this together by putting 3.0's on our bikes and running them over cuz we can!
Then they will learn real fast.

[noskcaj]

I rode on sunday and did a couple top to bottom runs at full pace and at times got behind a slower rider and had to relax a bit. But these spots were usually in the rock gardens rather than people hanging out in the trail. Anytime you're riding on a busy day, such as the weekend, there are going to be people just riding for fun. If you can't ride at a slightly slower pace or change your line to go around some people, then you really need to reconsider why you're riding a bike. Also, on one of the runs I took Ripper without any interruption or loss of pace while going from chute and across the alpine start. Basically, if you are too full of yourself to relax and let other riders do their thing on weekends, you should save everyone the aggravation and just ride during the week or learn to keep race pace when you know the trail is open and enjoy the day when you cant blast.

[Belfskins]

this happened to me on upper dominions. i jump the first two jumps and then im about to come up to the third jump right before the double and there is a group of 4 kids standing on top of the jump with their bikes. and when i rolled up they acted suprised that someone was going to go up the jump. i just rolled through but it still piussed me off that i couldnt get a solid run on a fast trail where there really shouldnt be any hold ups.

[IAMAPRO]

you sir, need to kindly just quit your b*tching and get over yourself. I can do a top to bottom run actually, I just choose not to because personally there's no reason to unless im trying to do a speed run. why wipe myself out when I don't need to? get off your high horse and calm it down a bit. and i bet if you yelled a heads up when you came outta chute de satchum im sure people would kindly move so you could proceed down alpine. But probably with anyones luck who wants to do this, like almost everyone else said, you'll get stuck behind a new rider whos taking the trail nice and slow. The only reason why I stop at the top anyways is just so that I can look ahead and not get aggravated because someones taking the trail slower than I would. Get a clue before you open your mouth next time :disgust1:

If you ride as poorly as FOXROX and the rest of lil bitches up there, then I suggest you shut your mouth. Not everyone is from some hick ass town in NJ, where sucking goat dick is normal.

Oh, were all great until the rest of the planet comes to race, then we suck and falling is normal, get real punk. You lil bitches suck and only ride Alpine so DTHOMO can shoot a pic for your myspace. Go suck PSP's lil goat weiner, friggin fags.

[konarider1283]

If you ride as poorly as FOXROX and the rest of lil bitches up there, then I suggest you shut your mouth. Not everyone is from some hick ass town in NJ, where sucking goat dick is normal.

Oh, were all great until the rest of the planet comes to race, then we suck and falling is normal, get real punk. You lil bitches suck and only ride Alpine so DTHOMO can shoot a pic for your myspace. Go suck PSP's lil goat weiner, friggin fags.

Who's the little kid now? Someone needs to grow a sense of maturity. Get a clue as to how to speak to people while you're at it. seems to me your social skills are terrible, and you really don't know how to get your point across. Now you're bringing in people who weren't even involved to begin with, and Dave's not one to start problems with. Nice job

[cecil]

well if imapro is really a pro then other people on the mountain should not bother him ya know?! does tiger woods make everyone get off the fairway when he it teeing off, i think not, cause he really is a pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[IAMAPRO]

well if imapro is really a pro then other people on the mountain should not bother him ya know?! does tiger woods make everyone get off the fairway when he it teeing off, i think not, cause he really is a pro!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who the fvck is Tiger Woods, is that the guy who is beating Hilary at the poll? And for some punk ass noob who joined yesterday, you seem to have alot to say. BTW DThomo knows that he is gay and rides top to bottom on his azz, thats not an insult, thats the truth.

[cecil]

your pretty uptight might want to take off that spandex your wearing in the picture, its cutting off the circulation to your brain.
im a 41 year old punk ass noob and proud of it : )

[konarider1283]

you dont know tiger woods...youre joking right? most famous golf player of our common time...so i guess your head really has been shoved up someones ass than hasnt it?

[mklie]

other than separating my shoulder today
-Stef

Sorry to hear about your shoulder. Hope you will get well soon and be on the mountain.

Martin

[bmxracer62]

YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF BABIES! quit your bitchin. get on the lift and ****in ride. hows that for a thought. theres gonna be slow riders, deal with it. dont like it, ride a harded trail. see someone in the way, give a little hollar before you come flyin up on them. 80% of the time, they move. shut your mouths, you dont own the mountain, they have just as much a right to be there as we do.im not talking about the people who sit at the exits of trials, they need to get the hell out the way. on that note, lets enjoy another weekend of riding! cant wait!

[cecil]

Thank you!!! im not the fastest by far but why are we here? to have fun and who cares what bike someone has or how fast, or how slow, rip it at your own pace and dont get hurt

[AzToJrse]

YOUR ALL A BUNCH OF BABIES! quit your bitchin. get on the lift and ****in ride. hows that for a thought. theres gonna be slow riders, deal with it. dont like it, ride a harded trail. see someone in the way, give a little hollar before you come flyin up on them. 80% of the time, they move. shut your mouths, you dont own the mountain, they have just as much a right to be there as we do.im not talking about the people who sit at the exits of trials, they need to get the hell out the way. on that note, lets enjoy another weekend of riding! cant wait!

YOU NEED TO QUIT YOUR BITCHIN, SEEMS LIKE YOU RUN YOUR MOUTH A BIT TOO MUCH.

[konarider1283]

this is the biggest flame fest yet. i love it :D

[Huck Banzai]

Dave's not one to start problems with... lol...


Haters.


ROFL

[WhoRyder]

Who the fvck is Tiger Woods, is that the guy who is beating Hilary at the poll? And for some punk ass noob who joined yesterday, you seem to have alot to say. BTW DThomo knows that he is gay and rides top to bottom on his azz, thats not an insult, thats the truth.

Who's DThomo? Sounds like a cool guy!

[cecil]

dt ill be on sunday can you get some pictures of me standing on the top of alpine, also standing just past the last tabletop on ud in the middle of the trail where riders coming down the trail at speed cant see me. thanks

[runnin12s]

Ha, the flaming begins. NJHC4life, except when riding? You gotta be harder than that, right? I bet Runnin12's could beat you to the bottom with Tufinos bike tied to his ass.


Allright gotta chime in here, seams IAMAPRO has had a hard on for me for a while, how the hell did I get dragged into this. Which bike has to be tied to my ass and who am I racing against? Either IAMAPRO has confidence in me or he just wants to slow me down so he can keep with me. Come on pro, pick the date I will make the 3 hour trek down to diablo and race down the course against you. You pick the course don't care which one, just make sure you throw in some sick drops or huge jumps so that I can watch you fall off of them.:bonk:

[WhoRyder]

I personally don't know how DT was dragged into this... but it's okay....

HATERS!!!!!

[FOXROX]

http://home.student.uu.se/anhe8197/can_t_we_all_just_get_along.jpg

[cecil]

i really dont know who knows who, and always get a lot of laughs, love the pictures and vid, but i had to join and open my big mouth when iamapro started really crossing the line, everyone likes to talk s*** and bust chops but it was too much. it musr be a freud (spellling?) thing he is struggling with

[WhoRyder]

Oedipus complex maybe.....

[cecil]

i was thinking more like the p**is envy one, he has to go top to bottom fast!!! you picking up what im putting down?

[WhoRyder]

All these riders in this pic are VERY fast riders..... and they too stop atop of alpine to chill, rest and talk.....

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c285/dtufino/DSC00680.jpg

[FOXROX]

http://www.ertra.com/temp/weekly/fat_lady.jpg

[cecil]

im slow, sunday will be my fifth time ever, i get out of peoples way, respect other people weather they are faster or slower ( most are faster) anyone can make fun of me all they want for being a "noob" i dont give a f***. so when i said take a picture of me standing it was all in fun

[cecil]

is that one of the new slopestyle stunts?

[Ironjunk]

is that one of the new slopestyle stunts?

It's an updated picture of the mountain

[NJMX835]

It's an updated picture of the mountain


Mountain Creek & Plattekill combined aren't that big.

[IAMAPRO]

this is the biggest flame fest yet. i love it :D

No it's not, this a pre-school flame fest. :blah:

[konarider1283]

No it's not, this a pre-school flame fest. :blah:

no no, your behavior is what we'd expect in a pre school flame fest.

[IAMAPRO]

no no, your behavior is what we'd expect in a pre school flame fest.

Oh, am I misbehaving? Take notice that all of the riders in Tufinos photo are sitting outside of the area between the chute and Alpine.

[konarider1283]

Oh, am I misbehaving? Take notice that all of the riders in Tufinos photo are sitting outside of the area between the chute and Alpine.

any idea who those riders are bigshot?

[cecil]

Oh, am I misbehaving? Take notice that all of the riders in Tufinos photo are sitting outside of the area between the chute and Alpine.

if your such a great, fast, rough and tumble rider then why cant you just turn the bars and go around these people who just seem to cause you so much mental pain? :lighten:

[bmxracer62]

it looks to me to be an open path all the way into alpine. no going around required.

[IAMAPRO]

any idea who those riders are bigshot?

OMG is that team Diablo? Let me get on my knees and bow down to them. Are you serious with that question? Outside of Diablo they are a bunch of nobodys(just like you and me) with the exception of one rider.

[IAMAPRO]

it looks to me to be an open path all the way into alpine. no going around required.

My point exactly, that path should be left open, and as far as going around them - why cant DownCycles example of bikes in the middle of the trail be gone around? I mean compare apples to apples - If your in the way, your in the way, its that simple.:confused:

[bobushka king]

you ladies are still going at it.... damn.


http://www.firstaidmonster.com/images/products/FAM_MIDOL_MAX_STRENGTH_CAPLE-5300.jpg

[IAMAPRO]

you ladies are still going at it.... damn.

Your right, it's a dead horse. Whatever, it just gets more interesting when you can bomb top to bottom, just have to take a quick breath at the top of Alpine.

[NJHCx4xLIFE]

http://garbett.org/files/threadwouldntdie.jpg

[DownCycles_Stef]

My point exactly, that path should be left open, and as far as going around them - why cant DownCycles example of bikes in the middle of the trail be gone around? I mean compare apples to apples - If your in the way, your in the way, its that simple.:confused:

Thanks for bringing my point back in some form of reasonable clarity. I think many people may have misinterpreted what I meant by being "in the way". I'm not referring to people stopping in sections or spots where they can be ridden around; I'm actually totally ok with that. What I don't like seeing is people standing (or their bikes being left) in the middle of a section that if you don't ride the trail and have to "go around" them would result in a bad crash on your part or a potentially dangerous impact between you and them. I mean narrow singletrack sections or blind spots where riders tend to be moving fast, and in either case where the "side" of the trail is dangerous or unrideable.

I don't think I'm really being unreasonable in that regard, I'm not whining, just stating what should be the VERY obvious. As for spots like the top of Alpine (or anywhere really), when you stop you should always afford any uphill riders the courtesy of easy passage by you.

[Film4food]

On saturday i was sitting down by were lower dominion and greenhorn have that open trail so that you can switch over, and i was over by greenhorn coming in hard at lower dominion (after waiting for my turn) and then out of no were some kid sitting on the side of the trail decides to just cruise in and mess up my run.

[FOXROX]

another example, me and jp do reality show and there are a bunch of bike are laying in front of the landing of the little kicker and another guy stopped on top of the box! no one was hurt they weren't blocking it for a reason. and then he gets off it and hikes up Dominion! no one saw him he almost got hit like twice!

[bruiser2]

i swear, i was gonna cap that sun' bich but my homies were trippin', man i hate riders who sit in the middle of the traill... nawww mean... think im gon' be bringing a 9mm on my runs so if a bich get my way.... CAP MOFO!

[bruiser2]

lol....fresh

[konarider1283]

jp you're far from fresh bud ;)

[bruiser2]

Yooo Braaaa U Did Not Just Say That!! Not Even Yo!!!!!

http://photos-594.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v197/222/58/660862594/n660862594_783977_3475.jpg


HAHAHAHAHAHA

[konarider1283]

Yooo Braaaa U Did Not Just Say That!! Not Even Yo!!!!!

http://photos-594.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v197/222/58/660862594/n660862594_783977_3475.jpg


HAHAHAHAHAHA

youre such a schwaldo JP HAHA