NS Suburban 24 vs USB Molly vs Tonic Fab Fall Guy

[pHeller]

All are at the best of the game in making high quality frames, and all make great 24" versions.

Which would you pick and why?

The NS is the cheapest, followed by the Molly, and at the top is the Fall Guy, would price be the decider?
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[Graydog]

I think you should be comparing the NS Capital to the Fall Guy and Molly instead of the 24 Suburban. Unless you want MTB spacing on the hubs and disk brakes. Also the Capital has an integreated headset and Spanish BB with is a big bonus in my mind.

[t1maglio]

Hey, thats my bike!

I would like to know the differences in geo between them all. Like standover, overall legnth, back end legnth. What it would be like to literally compare all the bikes side by side.

I think it also depends on what you want to do. Trails, street, park, combo. That could be a deciding factor right there.

Umm, Superco could be thrown in as well, for the highend side of things.

[Stoked]

no contest :monkeydance::banana:

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/Louse/DSCN3302.jpg

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ns cap (not pic) is looking sick though. ns rigid fork looks killer too.

[ServeEm]

I bought my molly cuz it had a standard headset, rim brakes, 14mm dropouts, high bb so I can grind. I'm not familiar with NS but, the fallguy and molly are pretty similar. The only diff I know is the molly has slightly steeper ht/st angles which I like and the brakes.

Oh yea the fall guy has integrated headset. I think the molly's slightly lighter too.

BTW I love how my molly feels!

[v-digit]

i like that yellow bike. its a looker.

[demo 9]

tonic heard really nice things, but with those choices u cant go wrong

[pHeller]

The Capital fits more in line with the Molly and FG, but I'd prefer to stick with options that allow me to re-use parts I've already got.

[Cru Jones]

I'd prefer to stick with options that allow me to re-use parts I've already got.

Like a mtb rear hub and disc brakes? If so, then it looks like an easy decision.

[pHeller]

It does, doesn't it?

It's ashame I'm still in college, have a few bills that need paid, have a DJ bike that I can't sell, a XC/AM bike doesn't quite fit me, and a roadbike that doesn't get enough attention.

I need to consolidate, and I'm leery if a 24" bike would help that.

However, getting this job working for a wedding photographer, or getting a high paying summer job would certainly help!

[Boxxer]

Just got my new FG. Its light. Very.

[t1maglio]

I think the Molly is cool, but I would argue the lightness factor. At 5lbs I think the fall guy will be hard to beat. On top of that, the HT and ST angles are easily adjusted by raising or lowering your fork. I believe the Molly is a tad beefier, which would be a deciding factor if I rode more street (or was going to grind more).

Stoked, will you build your bike already, jeepers!

[BikeSATORI]

yeah, I was going to mention about the Capital... Suburban's a dif. category IMO.



and wow, stoked, your frame is looking the beat. I missed where you picked one of those up, did you throw up a thread on it or something? I always liked your old whip a lot, can't wait to see this one come up.
That yoke vent is killer... very sweet, but definitely asking for some packaging tape over it or something, haha... Props to Landon on that one for sure.


oh yeah, pull for the Molly! The proven stout irish lady's got some good numbers on her.







*ding ding ding* "round 3, carry on"

[Boxxer]

Its 1:30am on a Friday morning and I just got out of bed, pressed the mid bearings, installed a ti profile spindle along with a black imperial and black race cranks. Looks sharp over the mint green.

Back to bed.

[t1maglio]

GET OUT OF BED AND FINISH IT! Bum.

[Bulldog]

How much are the Capital and Molly? I guess the FG is now $700.

[pHeller]

Capitol/Suburban is around 430, I think Molly is around 550 or so and FG is $700.

[ServeEm]

700 for a fall guy?!?! Dayum, was that how much they were before the revised frame?

[Leethal]

$500 for the Molly..

The Molly and the Fall Guy are both made in the States if that matters at all to you...

[Stoked]

700 for a fall guy?!?! Dayum, was that how much they were before the revised frame?

no. i believe they were 650 with mid bb and fsa hs.

new one has a bunch of new details frame wise.

[pHeller]

It does matter to me. If I wanted to swap to a BMX hub and Spanish BB (i don't even have BMX cranks yet), I'd be all over the Molly. Quite a few people are selling them for around $400 with parts, which is a great deal, but I'm trying to stay under 700 per total build. If I had BMX stuff laying around (brake, rear hub, BMW cranks with Spanish BB's) I'd easily be able to stay under my limit with a used Molly.

With the Suburban, I figure I lower my Pike, new stem/bars, pair of 24" hoops laced to stuff I've already got, I should be able to stay under that cost using MTB stuff I've got laying around.

We'll see. If I get what I want for my Steelhead that'll allow me more room to spend on a new toy.

[ServeEm]

$500 for the Molly..

The Molly and the Fall Guy are both made in the States if that matters at all to you...

Lee, I heard through the grapevine that Maas isn't making the Molly's anymore.

[Leethal]

Maas built the batch we have currently in stock. Peter needs some time to spend with his Father/ Family so we will see what the future holds.

As a note, the current Gen 4 molllies are about 1lb lighter than the previous versions while still using beefy chainstays for all that Street action and available to ship with V-brake mounts.