Canadians Tar Sands

[TheMontashu]

With the government pledging to use less middle east oil it's looking like the Canadian tar sands are going to be raped of there oil. What do you guys think it? this process has some INSANE environmental effects, from deforestation to contaminating a ridicules amount of water.

[N8]

With the government pledging to use less middle east oil it's looking like the Canadian tar sands are going to be raped of there oil. What do you guys think it? this process has some INSANE environmental effects, from deforestation to contaminating a ridicules amount of water.


jezus tap-dancin' christ... do you have nothing else to fret aboot?


:monkey:

[TheMontashu]

jezus tap-dancin' christ... do you have nothing else to fret aboot?


:monkey:
Sorry I'm not down with destroying the planet to get at some dinosaur remains to burn. Along with a big corporation making loads of cash.

[N8]

Sorry I'm not down with destroying the planet to get at some dinosaur remains to burn. Along with a big corporation making loads of cash.

whatever.

but you do enjoying using electricity, driving and having not to raise your own food.



edit - Never mind... http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2892730&postcount=1

[TheMontashu]

whatever.

but you do enjoying using electricity, driving and having not to raise your own food.
We can get electricity from the sun, wind, and water, and use hydrogen to store it. I don't have a car right now, and the next one i get is going to be a diesel with a greesle conversion. As well me and my dad are planing a **** load of stuff in the yard this year.

[N8]

We can get electricity from the sun, wind, and water, and use hydrogen to store it.



yeah? and how much do you figure you are going to pay for all that green power (assuming enough can be produced to meet demand)?

[LordOpie]

ha! n8 got owned by the kid who can't spell his own name :busted:

[TheMontashu]

yeah? and how much do you figure you are going to pay for all that green power (assuming enough can be produced to meet demand)?
It's going to be expensive, and Americans are going to have to make some sacrifices in lifestyle. It would help alot if the government would invest in better public transit.


Oh wait, I have a great idea, lets make Exxon take some of its 11.6 BILLION dollars in profit and make them pay for some of the costs of making our energy needs viable in the long term

[black noise]

Oh wait, I have a great idea, lets make Exxon take some of its 11.6 BILLION dollars in profit and make them pay for some of the costs of making our energy needs viable in the long term

Well there's a whole sh!t ton of money we could use! We don't even have to tax gas to pay for alternative energy/transportation either because Exxon already raised prices...

It's about time we get weaned off oil while prices are still pretty low. Give alternative energy a few decades to drop in price and it won't even cost that much more. Granted, we still need big changes in infrastructure since ours is based on cheap gasoline, but it's possible.

[X3pilot]

Um-hm. Cause that bio-fule ethanol has made things soooooo much better, right?

Higher world food prices and a process that does more damage to the environment than refining crude.

Why should Exxon pay for our addiction to oil? That's like expecting your dope dealer to pay for your rehab stay..

It's business and as long as the people bitching about high gas prices and the economy keep using their Visa to pay to fill up their SUV they ride in by themselves everyday, nothin's changing.

Oh, and who gives a fock about Canada (America Jr.)

[narlus]

whatever.

but you do enjoying using electricity, driving and having not to raise your own food.


and the fact that we are now considering the tar sand fields to continue shows that we are at the end of this particular energy mode.

bring back nuclear.

or invest in other energies.

[stevew]

No one wants nuclear in their backyard. Enviormentalists will never let it happen.

[N8]

expansion of nuclear is gonna happen.

[N8]

SPAM!!


Two-bedroom apartments at $3,200 a month sparking bidding wars. Cash deposits of $6,000 made on the spot. Manhattan? Dubai? Think again. While the rest of North America is mired in housing pain, the market is scorching in Fort McMurray, Alberta.

This frontier town five hours north of Edmonton is the gateway to the Athabaska Oil Sands, the second-largest proven oil reserve in the world. With $100-a-barrel oil making its costly extraction from the tar sands profitable, crude exports to the U.S. have spiked to record highs - and the exploding industry has drawn some 20,000 fortune hunters since 2005, pushing rents into the stratosphere. One-bedrooms average $2,200; some are predicting that will soon climb to $3,500. Vacancies are rare, and landlords can name their price, often for apartments in rundown buildings with moldy interiors.

[X3pilot]

Any bets Dick Cheney's the landlord?

[stevew]

expansion of nuclear is gonna happen.
A oil refinery has a better chance of being built.

[syadasti]

A oil refinery has a better chance of being built.

How about a personal nuclear reactor from Toshiba? PR claims they'll be out next year with $.05/KW/hr:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/toshibas-home-n.html

[N8]

How about a personal nuclear reactor from Toshiba? PR claims they'll be out next year with $.05/KW/hr:

http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2007/12/toshibas-home-n.html

scooped ages ago

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2845513&postcount=45

:rolleyes:

[syadasti]

scooped ages ago

Its relevant in this thread. Never said it was news...

[N8]

Its relevant in this thread. Never said it was news...

a wannabeN.8 says what?

[syadasti]

a wannabeN.8 says what?

Ctrl-C Ctrl-V

[N8]

Ctrl-C Ctrl-V

you are my canada.. i dubs thee N.8_jr

[LordOpie]

. i dubs thee N.8_jr
he's replacing your junk?

[N8]

he's replacing your junk?

fitting isnt it?

[LordOpie]

fitting isnt it?

I dunno, you'd have ask Mizn8 about that.

[ChrisRobin]

Speaking of oil...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080409/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc

What happened to stealing the oil from Iraq?? Let's get with the program so we can lower oil prices!! I'm assuming that since Canada is held up in Afghanistan and contributing to 'the cause', would could get a cut of it too.

[N8]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VUB9AO3&show_article=1

Iraq is looking at a potential boon in oil revenue this year, possibly as much as $100 billion in 2007 and 2008. Meanwhile, the U.S. military is having to buy its fuel on the open market, paying on average $3.23 a gallon and spending some $153 million a month in Iraq on fuel alone.

[TheMontashu]

Speaking of oil...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080409/ts_nm/markets_oil_dc

What happened to stealing the oil from Iraq?? Let's get with the program so we can lower oil prices!! I'm assuming that since Canada is held up in Afghanistan and contributing to 'the cause', would could get a cut of it too.
We need that oil for later, but more important than that is making sure no one else gets it

[jimmydean]

No one wants nuclear in their backyard. Enviormentalists will never let it happen.

We don't need Nebraska, we should put it all there.