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opjones
04-08-2008, 12:18 PM
Thomas has been working on a full suspension/slop style frame for atomlab for a little while now. He just got his hands on what I believe is an early production frame and built it up. I’ve seen it called the Trailking SS and FS, not sure which is the final name on it. Here's what he had to say....


they will be sold with a roco world cup, i believe that the frame and a shock will retail for $1000 and the complete with a 55r, GI parts kit, X 7 drive train, e13 and hydros will retail for $2000.

Production will have a 5degree bend 4" up from the axle to help with chainline and the front shock mount will be removable aluminum to help fit different shocks

my bike with as is weighs in between 38 and 39lbs. short of the seat and stem nothing on the bike is light weight. i would expect the complete to be probably around 40Lbs but its a little early to tell. since there were no prototype screw ups i think that the release date of October is pretty reasonable so as things unfold I’ll keep you all in the loop.

thomas






http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/AnnArborDJer/Trailking%20FS/IMG_0283.jpg


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/AnnArborDJer/Trailking%20FS/IMG_0282.jpg


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/AnnArborDJer/Trailking%20FS/IMG_0288-1.jpg


http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj149/AnnArborDJer/Trailking%20FS/IMG_0286.jpg

manhattanprjkt83
04-08-2008, 02:42 PM
hmmm this one doesnt have me so excited...the lines are really rough on it...

pHeller
04-08-2008, 02:45 PM
Looks very similar to the Eastern26 Slash series.

Front end looks nice, the rear looks rough, as stated above.

I like the removable forward shock mount.

w00dy
04-08-2008, 03:03 PM
Yawn

567

dan wask
04-08-2008, 03:13 PM
all you fools need to stop sippin the haterade. I like the look of the frame. I'd personally make a few different choices as far as components, but over all it looks like a nice simple build, perfect for what it is intended for.

rpet
04-08-2008, 03:32 PM
Way too heavy for the intended use, in my opinion. Is it 6" travel?

TGR
04-08-2008, 04:12 PM
swd 6-gun copy?

ebrider510
04-08-2008, 04:13 PM
i wanna hear more about the geo numbers. weight is a bit much for the intended use, but that build isn't super light as stated.

ServeEm
04-08-2008, 04:26 PM
swd 6-gun copy?

esh, that's what I was thinking...

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q120/RichardWelch/swd6gun.jpg

joelalamo45
04-08-2008, 04:52 PM
Looks like this...

bent^biker
04-08-2008, 07:16 PM
all the weight of a dh bike without all that pesky travel

sealclubber
04-08-2008, 09:57 PM
the slash actually looks better...

manhattanprjkt83
04-09-2008, 07:47 AM
im not sippin haterade...it needs refined to do well...i love atom lab products in general

The transition double and or that MC bike that was floating around look amazing with clean lines...Why would someone buy this over those bikes? Just trying to give a bit of feedback, sex sells.

chuffer
04-09-2008, 08:28 AM
40 lbs. seems like a lot of weight. maybe spend some time looking at weight reduction in areas like: mounting hardware, pivot hardware (think hollow BMX axles with flush mount bolts), rear swing arm (that looks really over built. did you do some FEA? perhaps you can decrease wall thickness or tube diameter. thinner gage tubing in the cross braces between the shock and pivot mounts...? perhaps an alu swing arm...?)

manhattanprjkt83
04-09-2008, 10:18 AM
i would think that this bike could be built sub 30 lbs for a reasonable amount...40 lbs is crazy

A Grove
04-09-2008, 11:38 AM
I really feel like Atomlab coulda done better... It is very similar to others on the market - but in reality, that isn't a huge issue. As I can see, it doesn't appear to bring anything to the table that isnt already on the market...and a build at 38lbs?? That seems like a lot of unnecessary weight....

IMO - keep your eyes pealed for the Mountain Cycle Battery.
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/aigman/new-battery.jpg
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g100/aigman/Newbattery.jpg

I got a chance to ride one at rays, and it was a sweet ride....

ServeEm
04-09-2008, 11:47 AM
WOW, those mags on the MC are fugly.

manhattanprjkt83
04-09-2008, 12:03 PM
yeah what happened to MC with this one? I talked to Landon about buying one waaaaaay back...

I think this bike would sell really well...IMO the brushed isnt as good looking as the first proto or the shot of the white one that was floating around but damn that bike would fun...

sittingduck
04-09-2008, 02:06 PM
The design looks like it might invite some serious FLEX.
Especially if it's steel. The MC with the bigass pivots and aluminum might be a bit stiffer though. I could be wrong....

A Grove
04-09-2008, 02:08 PM
I rode the EXACT rig in the first picture at rays and it honestly felt pretty darn nice. BUT I keep on telling myself what is the point of having a full sus bike the size of my hardtail?

I'd rather built up a big rig than waste time on a bike that will be used for the same things I ride mine on now. God only knows I rip those slopestyle trails upppp ;)

demo 9
04-09-2008, 02:34 PM
that SWD should get the top tube lowered 6 inches, that could be a sick dj mini FS bike

manhattanprjkt83
04-09-2008, 02:45 PM
I rode the EXACT rig in the first picture at rays and it honestly felt pretty darn nice. BUT I keep on telling myself what is the point of having a full sus bike the size of my hardtail?

I'd rather built up a big rig than waste time on a bike that will be used for the same things I ride mine on now. God only knows I rip those slopestyle trails upppp ;)

yeah those little fullys have thier place though...guys around here are very bmx oriented riding big trail lines but like to ride resorts as well. I think they are the perfect little bikes...

rpet
04-09-2008, 03:04 PM
IMO - keep your eyes pealed for the Mountain Cycle Battery.


We've been keeping our eyes peeled for 2 or 3 years...

SquadraCorse
04-09-2008, 03:10 PM
Certainly does nothing for me.I think it looks unimaginative with jagged lines.

sittingduck
04-09-2008, 05:49 PM
I hope most of us are beyond caring what bikes "LOOK" like. I could care less if a bike is an (alleged) eyesore... you should be more concerned about how it RIDES.

A Grove
04-09-2008, 06:00 PM
Aye - we all get caught up in looks. But what I was trying to point out is that atomlab REALLY isnt bringing anything new to the table. Not anything that is substancial enough for people (speaking for myself, mostly) to go with the A-Lab over a bike that's build weight is a lot more reasonable and doesnt have any unnecessary weight.

Then again... all of these could be considered sweeping generalizations... Ignore or critic as you feel fit.

sittingduck
04-09-2008, 06:22 PM
I guess I missed where it was touted as being new, or original. Or light. :D

A Grove
04-09-2008, 07:07 PM
I never said it was... Although I did imply it in a way.

I guess looking at the rest of the products Atomlab brings to the table, this is not what I would expect from them.

BikeSATORI
04-09-2008, 07:55 PM
I'd be interested to see the geo. numbers on this before making a judgement based on a few photos.
If Thomas has a hand in this bike I'd be pretty sure it has potential to rip.

And all this jive talk... c'mon.
I mean, if someone were to post up pics of an Atomlab Trailking, or even a blackmarket, or a tonic fab, or whatever, plenty of people could always say, "It brings nothing new to the table", without really even having any clue to the entire story behind it or how it even rides.! Trailking looks just like any other frame, but has quite progressive geometry that the eye could not possibly catch entirely in a photo. Same with the new Fall Guy for example, reverted back to the "same old triangles, same old round tubing, holds the same old two wheels..." c'mon, just think before you judge at a glance. I can respect opinion based on aesthetics and looks, of course, but man, some ugly chicks can ride hard too, believe it or not! hahaha, d'oh.

A Grove
04-09-2008, 09:06 PM
...Then again... all of these could be considered sweeping generalizations... Ignore or critic as you feel fit.

That is why I included this in my one post. Judging its LOOKS - It does not look as if it will be anything different than what other companies are bringing to the market... It seems like there are certain corners of the market that go out and try and revolutionize things, and others that follow suit. I've always looked at some of atomlabs products as being the ones to revolutionize things, this just is not what I was expecting. (I edited my first response to clear up confusion on how I worded things)...

A Grove
04-09-2008, 09:10 PM
We've been keeping our eyes peeled for 2 or 3 years...

Aye, as far as I have been told, they have already (or will be very soon) hit the market in very small quantities. At least thats what the MC rep said at Rays...

EDIT:: http://www.mountaincycle.com/en/pricing.html ;)

don
04-09-2008, 10:18 PM
I just picked up a Sinister Gruitr for a sussy trail rig. I guess it's in the "slopestyle" category with it's geometry being very close to the all popular BR (which I had as well). For riding trail, I want something with a low TT and something I can slam the seat while on a trail ride and hit some features if they pop up.

Sorry this post doens't say much about the Atomlab rig but figured since the Mtn Cycle was brought up I'd inject Sinister's offering.

http://sinisterbikes.com/gruitr_geometry.htm

A couple vids at some nearby XC trails. 2nd ride on the Gruitr and first time on these jumps with the new bike. It's a pretty adaptable bike:

http://defconfour.com/movies/allaire_don_01.mov

http://defconfour.com/movies/allaire_don_02.mov