View Full Version : how well has the stock market done under GWB?
narlus
03-27-2008, 08:17 AM
front page of yesterday's WSJ says :plthumbsdown:
"The stock market is trading right where it was nine years ago. Stocks, long touted as the best investment for the long term, have been one of the worst investments over the nine-year period, trounced even by lowly Treasury bonds".
"When dividends and inflation are factored into returns, the S&P 500 has risen an average of just 1.3% a year over the past 10 years, well below the historical norm, according to Morningstar Inc. For the past nine years, it has fallen 0.37% a year, and for the past eight, it is off 1.4% a year".
another glowing testimonial to GWB's performance. and this from his own right wing.
9/11 has a lot to do with those figures. The market went in the toilet after that. The fact that we have been fighting two wars doesn't help either.
MMike
03-27-2008, 08:33 AM
The fact that we have been fighting two wars doesn't help either.
If ONLY there had been some way to avoid that....DAMMIT!
stevew
03-27-2008, 09:19 AM
If ONLY there had been some way to avoid that....DAMMIT!
Having a golden banana limits the rep spreading abilities.
The only drawback.
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 09:54 AM
The fact that we have been fighting two wars doesn't help either.ok, i got the gwot marked down as one of the wars.....did mars attack us again?
ok, i got the gwot marked down as one of the wars.....did mars attack us again?
You must be the guy who gets in the "7 items or less" express line with 244 cans of cat food, and says it's OK because they are all the same item.
MMike
03-27-2008, 10:03 AM
Having a golden banana limits the rep spreading abilities.
The only drawback.
It does?
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 10:03 AM
You must be the guy who gets in the "7 items or less" express line with 244 cans of cat food, and says it's OK because they are all the same item.it's b/c of bush's economy i have to eat cat food, but at least it's fancy feast
LordOpie
03-27-2008, 11:16 AM
You must be the guy who gets in the "7 items or less" express line with 244 cans of cat food, and says it's OK because they are all the same item.
Brilliant!
really? i saw a decline of the market when the dem's took control of congress alonq with a huge increase in the cost of oil.
They don't call him "Big Picture n8" for nothing.
9/11 has a lot to do with those figures. The market went in the toilet after that. The fact that we have been fighting two wars doesn't help either.
All on GWB's watch.
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 11:23 AM
funny how some types acknowledge we were simultaneously fighting the japs, germans, italians, all on multiple fronts in both eastern & western hemispheres, and comfortably & correctly call that a singular "world war", yet this is somehow starkly different.
skinny mike
03-27-2008, 11:34 AM
funny how some types acknowledge we were simultaneously fighting the japs, germans, italians, all on multiple fronts in both eastern & western hemispheres, and comfortably & correctly call that a singular "world war", yet this is somehow starkly different.
you're kidding me, right?
you're equating the war on terror and the iraq war with world war 2?
yet this is somehow starkly different.
Let's lump em all together then.
The war on IraqIrandrugsimmigrationenvironmentAIDSbritney.
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 11:39 AM
how would you identify the entity which is being fought in the gwot?
is it also present in iraq?
why should it now be categorized as separate & distinct?
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 11:41 AM
the universal war on evil
heard it here first
the universal war on evil
heard it here first
I think I said it first:
The war on IraqIrandrugsimmigrationenvironmentAIDSbritney.
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 12:30 PM
she shined up nice on how i met your mother, no?
welcome home, honey.
syadasti
03-27-2008, 12:42 PM
Brilliant. You can further reduced the number of wars we fought in if you just call a bunch of them the Cold War too:think:
Secret Squirrel
03-27-2008, 12:45 PM
how would you identify the entity which is being fought in the gwot?
is it also present in iraq?
why should it now be categorized as separate & distinct?
Uh...because there was....
hold on...big boy pants time...
NO F*CKING LINK TO AL QAIDA WITH REGARDS TO IRAQ.
We went to Afghanistan with the purpose to get Osama and al Qaida.
Some might still think we went into Iraq with the same purpose (al Qaida) ....BUT....
hold on...big boy pants again...
IT WAS A LIE. NO LINK BETWEEN THE TWO ACTUALLY EXISTED.
It does now because of the....
hold on....
BIG F*CKING POWER VACUUM...
That's why it's two separate instances. I continue to view it as two separate fronts.
We continue to bomb caves and get the shaft from mountain goats in one area.
We ousted a #1 a-hole and put a country into civil war in another.
They do not go hand in hand like GerItalApan.
jimmydean
03-27-2008, 01:39 PM
We just need to invade Iran. Then we can blur the lines between conflicts without question.
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 01:53 PM
Brilliant. You can further reduced the number of wars we fought in if you just call a bunch of them the Cold War too:think:whenever we fight the browns, we'll call it: "operation hot-tub"
They do not go hand in hand like GerItalApan.
:clapping:
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 02:03 PM
<stuff>when i bring up WWdeucebigalo, it's not to assert congruence, but to demonstrate strong correlation.
strong enough for john kerry to connect the dots when he was campaigning for prez last go around.
funny how so many anti-bush types in congress (a.k.a. non-lieberman democrats) bemoan the "iraq war", but in spite of being in control of both chambers in congress, have yet to do anything short of "emboldening" our war president. not one bit of wartime funding legislation has ever failed to make it off the hill.
now why is that?
jimmydean
03-27-2008, 03:11 PM
After watching the Frontline show, I no longer blame GWB. He is an idiot and only does what he is told. I would argue that over the course of his presidency that the only choice he ever made on his own, was to eat pretzels and that nearly killed him.
You can't blame the mentally incapable.
Silver
03-27-2008, 03:23 PM
After watching the Frontline show, I no longer blame GWB. He is an idiot and only does what he is told. I would argue that over the course of his presidency that the only choice he ever made on his own, was to eat pretzels and that nearly killed him.
You can't blame the mentally incapable.
He still deserves blame...in a just world he'd be tried and hung just like his good buddy Saddam.
How do you choke on a piece of snack food that comes with an existing airhole anyways?
dante
03-27-2008, 03:23 PM
Pick at least one!
1. they were for the war before they were against it.
2. that soap-dish IQ'ed Bush tricked them into voting for war stuff.
3. only voted for war funding because of the troops (ok, for re-election purposes).
4. anti-war voters are so stoned that congress can blame everything on Bush.. yeah.. Bush did it!!!
I'll choose:
5. we'll be granted as liberators - McCain
now why is that?
Bread on both sides of the isle gets the same butter.
jimmydean
03-27-2008, 03:29 PM
How do you choke on a piece of snack food that comes with an existing airhole anyways?
He should wear a helmet, seriously. The man tipped a Segway!
Toshi
03-27-2008, 03:37 PM
funny how so many anti-bush types in congress (a.k.a. non-lieberman democrats) bemoan the "iraq war", but in spite of being in control of both chambers in congress, have yet to do anything short of "emboldening" our war president. not one bit of wartime funding legislation has ever failed to make it off the hill.
now why is that?
you're spot on. the dems are not anti-war except to garner votes.
this doesn't justify the war, however, but instead just shows how useless both parties are.
$tinkle
03-27-2008, 03:41 PM
After watching the Frontline show, I no longer blame GWB. He is an idiot and only does what he is told. I would argue that over the course of his presidency that the only choice he ever made on his own, was to eat pretzels and that nearly killed him.
You can't blame the mentally incapable.i wouldn't go so far to say he was an idiot, but he was out of his league, and heavily manipulated. i don't believe any other electable conservative would have faired better.
i don't believe any other electable conservative would have faired better.
:rofl: and that, my friends, pretty much sums it up perfectly :rofl:
jimmydean
03-27-2008, 04:38 PM
not to mention the typical ambulance chasing president in teh clinton mold wouldn't have faired any better either.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t64/chickiepea86/fail.jpg
Secret Squirrel
03-27-2008, 05:28 PM
<response to stuff>
I'm with Toshi on this one. The peeps getting the votes whore themselves out to whatever demographic they need to to stay where they are. (Someone once said, "It's good to be King.")
Of course there's a "strong correlation" where someone wants there to be one....just look at any of Renegade Rick's comments in any thread...Conspiracy Theory 101.
What I was trying to get at is that "strong correlation" doesn't equal "what the hell really happened".
Plus, the only good use for connect the dots is to spell "BOOBS". Just like 4004+4004 on a calculator.
MMike
03-27-2008, 05:30 PM
:spam:
I don't think spam means what you think it means...
narlus
03-28-2008, 12:25 PM
why is that everyone forgets that Congress's approval ratings make W look like the next Jeebus?
on congressional approval ratings (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3242551):
The Democrats in Congress have lost much of the leadership edge they carried out of the 2006 midterm election, with the lack of progress in Iraq being the leading cause.
gee, i wonder who's stopping this lack of progress in iraq?
$tinkle
03-28-2008, 12:33 PM
chop the "):"
jimmydean
03-28-2008, 12:57 PM
gee, i wonder who's stopping this lack of progress in iraq?
Funny how GWB had no idea where he put his Veto stamp until he lost control of congress. I think Uncle Karl bought him a new one.
$tinkle
03-28-2008, 12:59 PM
how many vetos?
how many bills?
jimmydean
03-28-2008, 02:19 PM
how many vetos?
how many bills?
"If the Democrats want to test us, that's why they give the president the veto. I'm looking forward to vetoing excessive spending, and I'm looking forward to having the United States Congress support my veto."
Bush was the first president since John Quincy Adams not to exercise his veto power during a complete four-year term, even though the Republican-controlled Congress was on a spending spree.
$tinkle
03-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Portland-based Marine dies in Africa (http://www.katu.com/news/local/17052206.html)
got that? africa. ok, onto the graphic used in the story:
http://media.katu.com/images/stock_continuing_conflict.jpg
Secret Squirrel
03-28-2008, 04:50 PM
Portland-based Marine dies in Africa (http://www.katu.com/news/local/17052206.html)
got that? africa. ok, onto the graphic used in the story:
http://media.katu.com/images/stock_continuing_conflict.jpg
Well...maybe he got the syphillherpalaids in Mosul and then decided to see the finer points of safari'ing....
DaveW
03-28-2008, 04:53 PM
Portland-based Marine dies in Africa (http://www.katu.com/news/local/17052206.html)
got that? africa. ok, onto the graphic used in the story:
http://media.katu.com/images/stock_continuing_conflict.jpg
Strange.... When I clicked on your link the graphic was
http://media.katu.com/designimages/KATU_2news_defaultimage.jpg
:poster_oops::clapping:
$tinkle
03-28-2008, 04:56 PM
guess i'm not the only one who took note.
but how exactly is the world's 2nd biggest mountain on my side ???
edit: and it's in pakistan
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