3 TRILLION dollar budget??

[JohnE]

Are you kidding me?
Know what I would do if I had 3 trillion dollars? 2 chicks at the same time...

And he is cutting MediCare and MedicAid. I hope I dont catch anything...

[N8]

Are you kidding me?
Know what I would do if I had 3 trillion dollars? 2 chicks at the same time...

And he is cutting MediCare and MedicAid. I hope I dont catch anything...


OMFG!!!

$3,000 billion dollars!!!1111113l3v3nty11111


:eek:

[fluff]

Clinton.... surplus....Bush....deficit....Loopy....incredulous ....N8....oblivious...there....can....be....only.. ..one.....idiot....

[N8]

Clinton.... surplus....Bush....deficit....Loopy....incredulous ....N8....oblivious...there....can....be....only.. ..one.....idiot....


$3T is like the entire GDP of the UK?

Wow!

[fluff]

$3T is like the entire GDP of the UK?

Wow!

How do you get the sand out of your ears?

[Westy]

$3T is like the entire GDP of the UK?

Wow!

And 10 times their national debt.

America, **** yeah.

[N8]

on thing that is for certain is that the US economy can grow and expand and rake in tax monies like no other in the world.

dont fret.

[N8]

And 10 times their national debt.

America, **** yeah.


Rank Order - Public Debt (% of GDP)
#50 United Kingdom 43.30%
#66 United States 36.80%

meh...

[dante]

Hmmmm, 15% increase in military spending while cutting medical services to the poor and reducing the amount of $$ to help with heating costs. Is bush still trying to get "Scrooge of the year award"?

If it were up to me, I'd reduce all military spending by 90%, and just keep our large stockpile of nuclear weapons. Piss us off, and BOOM! Instead of a lengthy war in Iraq, a couple of targeted thermonuclear missile strikes and no more Saddam. Use the last 10% as bribes to get other people to do our fighting for us. Couple hundred million dollars in weapons for the Kurds and Shi'ites, couple of nukes for Baghdad, problem solved. Next!

[$tinkle]

Clinton.... surplus....Bush....deficit....Loopy....incredulous ....N8....oblivious...there....can....be....only.. ..one.....idiot....per...village...

or do you lot say 'shire'?

[fluff]

per...village...

or do you lot say 'shire'?

There be lots in a shire, that be loike a county...

[J-Dubs]

Don't worry. $600- per capita will turn everything around soon enough.

[JohnE]

$600 to keep the yokels happy and buy votes.

"on thing that is for certain is that the US economy can grow and expand and rake in tax monies like no other in the world."

Government as a profit making proposition. Brilliant. The idea is to break almost even, and be fiscally responsible. Not mortage the national soul to China so that our childrens children are still cleaning up Shrubs mess.

[N8]

$600 to keep the yokels happy and buy votes.

"on thing that is for certain is that the US economy can grow and expand and rake in tax monies like no other in the world."

Government as a profit making proposition. Brilliant. The idea is to break almost even, and be fiscally responsible. Not mortage the national soul to China so that our childrens children are still cleaning up Shrubs mess.

you are sadly mistaken/misinformed about the $600 rebate and the rest of your statement is suspect as well

[DirtyDog]

you are sadly mistaken/misinformed about the $600 rebate and the rest of your statement is suspect as well

Well then educate us on the issue Regis.

[jimmydean]

you are sadly mistaken/misinformed about the $600 rebate and the rest of your statement is suspect as well

Are you saying the $600 WON'T stimulate the economy? OK, now I'm starting to think GWB doesn't know what he's doing.

[N8]

Well then educate us on the issue Regis.

happend twice before:

2001 & 1975 both times to soften a recession.

It is not a bribe for votes :rolleyes: but rather an economy kick-start based on some economic mumbo-jumbo.

[N8]

Well maybe now that i look at it *IS* a bribe for votes!!!!

:eek:

www.rebates4ron.com

[Westy]

happend twice before:

2001 & 1975 both times to soften a recession.

It is not a bribe for votes :rolleyes: but rather an economy kick-start based on some economic mumbo-jumbo.

There was no recession in 2001, there was positive economic growth. Never really was a threat of negative growth.

[N8]

There was no recession in 2001, there was positive economic growth. Never really was a threat of negative growth.

Ahh.. summer of 2001... the dotcom bust and a general malaise in the US economy... good times.

[JohnE]

Okay, its not a bribe for votes...just very convenient timing. Go drink some more GOP Kool Aid N8...
How is $600 ea. going to kick start the economy? Get every household lead a hooker and some tequilia? I have an idea, how about the government lead by example and not spend our childrens futures on oil wars?

[BurlyShirley]

Am I reading this right?

Some of Bush's proposals are hopelessly unrealistic, such as cutting veterans' medical programs for four years in a row after awarding them a small increase next year. Their costs have nearly doubled during Bush's tenure.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlkG9t2Z4m8UfIya6iQ3-TfTPhRwD8UJON580

What a piece of sh*t! Commit them to battle, and then pull the rug out from under them when they return home wounded.
How's that for "supporting the troops" ?

[JohnE]

I feel sorry for the next poor sap who becomes POTUS...gonna have a helluva mess to clean up.

Who came up with the theory about it being a GOP plot...fvck sh#t up so bad the Dems will win one term, then be done forever when they cant pull the country out of its GOP induced tailspin, badda bing, badda boom, GOP rule forever...

[JohnE]

Well maybe now that i look at it *IS* a bribe for votes!!!!

:eek:

www.rebates4ron.com

Go ahead and send him yours, assmunch. I am saving mine for hookers and Tequilia. Cheap hookers and good Tequillia. Both will make ya puke so much you will forget how much Shrub has screwed the country he couldnt fight for...

[N8]

Am I reading this right?



http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlkG9t2Z4m8UfIya6iQ3-TfTPhRwD8UJON580

What a piece of sh*t! Commit them to battle, and then pull the rug out from under them when they return home wounded.
How's that for "supporting the troops" ?

What 'programs' exactly are slated for cuts??

Cuz..


Department of Veterans Affairs
The Administration appreciates the Committee’s continued support of the Nation’s veterans, but
strongly believes that the President’s FY 2008 Budget for the Department of Veterans Affairs
(VA) and the recently enacted FY 2007 supplemental funding provide ample resources to ensure
that veterans, including those returning from current combat operations, receive the quality care
and services that they deserve. The President’s request for veterans is over 8 percent above last
year’s level and more than 76 percent above the level when he took office.

The President’s FY 2008 Budget meets the growing health care needs of the Nation’s veterans,
expands VA’s ability to provide mental health care and prosthetics, supports continued
restructuring of the medical care system to ensure that services are available where veterans live,
funds the construction of six new cemeteries, and strengthens the collaboration between VA and
the Department of Defense to better aid servicemembers as they transition out of the military.
The Administration is closely tracking the ongoing cost of providing for our veterans in the VA
medical care system, and FY 2007 appropriations are sufficient to meet these projected needs.
Congress augmented FY 2007 resources by including $1.8 billion for VA in the recently enacted
FY 2007 supplemental. As this additional funding came late in the year and is available until
expended, most of these resources will be available in FY 2008 to supplement the 8 percent
increase the Administration is seeking for the VA. The Administration believes that, when
combined with these supplemental resources, the requested level for FY 2008 is more than
sufficient to address all needs within the VA system.

The bill is $3.8 billion more than the President’s request and represents an 18.5 percent increase
over the FY 2007 discretionary budget that Congress enacted for VA before the supplemental.
The Administration agrees with Congress on the critical importance of providing needed care to
the Nation’s veterans and looks forward to working together on an appropriate funding level
within the total $933 billion discretionary topline for FY 2008.

[JohnE]

And how long was this suspended? Since before the end of FY 07 (LAST OCTOBER!) which is why we (Service members) are getting retroactive pay starting next month for our huge 3.5 % pay raise that Shrub DIDNT WANT US TO HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE...

[N8]

And how long was this suspended? Since before the end of FY 07 (LAST OCTOBER!) which is why we (Service members) are getting retroactive pay starting next month for our huge 3.5 % pay raise that Shrub DIDNT WANT US TO HAVE IN THE FIRST PLACE...

welcome to every year... Continuing resolution fund the gov/military for months past the Oct 1 new fiscal year start...

[JohnE]

C'mon, this will be the first time in 18 years of service that I have experienced a retro active pay raise.
(That I can remember. A few years are kind of fuzzy. Too much Soju, Bitburger or desert sand to clog the memory. Also, the wife keeps track of me money now, something about feeding kids or something...)

[N8]

Oh.. found this too.. looks like 'cut' in VA programs is.. you guessed it.. partisan!

http://www.vawatchdog.org/07/nf07/nfFEB07/nf021607-1.htm

[JohnE]

Are you on the GOP payroll? Chief apologist?

[N8]

Are you on the GOP payroll? Chief apologist?

:beerjam:

[$tinkle]

Am I reading this right?

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hlkG9t2Z4m8UfIya6iQ3-TfTPhRwD8UJON580

What a piece of sh*t! Commit them to battle, and then pull the rug out from under them when they return home wounded.
How's that for "supporting the troops" ?recall that we too are vets. and check this out: b/c i got a hernia operation & my knee scoped while on active duty, i can apply for partial disability payments for the rest of my life. on the order of 10-20% disability won't make the house payments, but is more than bush's stimulus package, and for the rest of my life.

these 'partially debilitating injuries' happened in the normal course of life, not from being in the combat zone, or training for combat. that's one part of the program that should be cut.

next time you see someone w/ a disabled vet tag (where available), ask them what their disability is. if it's legit, they'll get that 1000 yd stare & go into a well-rehearsed & slightly embellished tale of woe. if they're like me, they'll start citing HIPAA & privacy laws and question your patriotism.

[N8]

recall that we too are vets. and check this out: b/c i got a hernia operation & my knee scoped while on active duty, i can apply for partial disability payments for the rest of my life. on the order of 10-20% disability won't make the house payments, but is more than bush's stimulus package, and for the rest of my life.

these 'partially debilitating injuries' happened in the normal course of life, not from being in the combat zone, or training for combat. that's one part of the program that should be cut.

next time you see someone w/ a disabled vet tag (where available), ask them what their disability is. if it's legit, they'll get that 1000 yd stare & go into a well-rehearsed & slightly embellished tale of woe. if they're like me, they'll start citing HIPAA & privacy laws and question your patriotism.

I have to say that the guys I know who retire out of the Air Force are freekin' experts are claiming disabilies. They know exactly what to get on their record and what to say at when at their outprocessing interview.

Every one of them gets at least 20% and I have seen a lot more going to prefectly healthy people.

[JohnE]

N8, you of all people should know that there are scammers in all branches of service. To point the finger at AF retirees is just ignant...

[N8]

N8, you of all people should know that there are scammers in all branches of service. To point the finger at AF retirees is just ignant...

it was never ever as 'in your face' in the Navy... no one i knew ever applied unless they were seriously messed up. However, different story in the AF... it's routine

[$tinkle]

another anecdote: friend of mine did one hitch & couldn't stand the dormrats, so he wore headphones & drowned out the sounds of life around.

guess who's paying for his 20% disability for hearing loss due to his own negligence?

[N8]

another anecdote: friend of mine did one hitch & couldn't stand the dormrats, so he wore headphones & drowned out the sounds of life around.

guess who's paying for his 20% disability for hearing loss due to his own negligence?

i just knew that 80's metal would f*&k you up!!!

On the flip side; my exwife was a Navy Air Traffic Controller and she had hearing loss from wearing her ear piece during her enlistment but was denied disability when she went to get out.

[BurlyShirley]

another anecdote: friend of mine did one hitch & couldn't stand the dormrats, so he wore headphones & drowned out the sounds of life around.

guess who's paying for his 20% disability for hearing loss due to his own negligence?

Heard that women vets, during outprocessing, simply get to check a yes/no box that asks "were you sexually assaulted/harassed at any time during your service?" And if they check yes, they automatically get 15% disability for the rest of their days, with no investigation or inquiry into their "claim."

[N8]

Heard that women vets, during outprocessing, simply get to check a yes/no box that asks "were you sexually assaulted/harassed at any time during your service?" And if they check yes, they automatically get 15% disability for the rest of their days, with no investigation or inquiry into their "clam."



:disgust1:

[BurlyShirley]

it was never ever as 'in your face' in the Navy... no one i knew ever applied unless they were seriously messed up. However, different story in the AF... it's routine

Well big surprise there. I once stayed in an all-forces barracks, supposedly the AF guys recieved extra pay as a "low standard of living" compensation, where as for us, well, better than a squad bay.

[X3pilot]

Wait..you mean I can get $$ for my f'ed up feet and knees due to wearing flightdeck boots for 13 hours a day and my sore back from falling off a helicopter and for not being able to hear that well after 24 years of aviation maintenance??????

Wait..if they fixed my hearing, I'd have to listen to my wife.

There are scammers in all branches and well as SS, Disability, welfare and any other entitlement program.

Ahhh.I'm just jealous. I had to check no or n/a on all the annual flight physicals to keep flying and get flight pay. VA said last year after I retired that I can claim 0% since I never had any thing documented...

[$tinkle]

Ahhh.I'm just jealous. I had to check no or n/a on all the annual flight physicals to keep flying and get flight pay. VA said last year after I retired that I can claim 0% since I never had any thing documented...your claim seems legit, and definitely approvable. make an appt w/ a va dr (call you regional va office), & get a physical. nothing is permanent, no matter what you signed.

[JohnE]

it was never ever as 'in your face' in the Navy... no one i knew ever applied unless they were seriously messed up. However, different story in the AF... it's routine

Yeah...right. All the Swabbies are so hardcore. All the monies come frm the same pool, and what makes the difference is how much you whine about whatever imagined malady has wrecked your life. Like how you are psychologically scarred by emlisting in a service where buggery is commonplace.

Bite me N8...

[r464]

VA said last year after I retired that I can claim 0% since I never had any thing documented...

So they can't do anything about that smell that you make?

[$tinkle]

you'd think the AP has it in for dubya: " Bush budget would bring record deficits (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget)".

but a careful read a few paras down reveals the "record deficit":Slumping revenues and the cost of an economic rescue package will combine to produce a huge jump in the deficit to $410 billion this year and $407 billion in 2009, the White House says, just shy of the record $413 billion set four years ago.talk about your miserable fale-ures

[N8]

Bush's budget is balance by 2012 too.. something that's been ignored as well.

[jimmydean]

Bush's budget is balance by 2012 too.. something that's been ignored as well.

Only because HE will be out of office in 4 years.

[fluff]

Bush's budget is balance by 2012 too.. something that's been ignored as well.

Did you even read the article?

Quotes:

Bush's overall request for defense spending in 2009 is $588.3 billion, compared with $670 billion this year. But it includes only $70 billion for initial war costs in Iraq and Afghanistan, $119 billion less than has been projected for this year. That $70 billion is almost certain to increase.

"There was an assumption that in the short term that the budget would start to correct and that we could balance in the short term," said Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire, top Republican on the Budget Committee. "But with the stimulus package and with the continuing war costs, that's not going to happen. In fact it's going to get very serious when you're hitting $400 billion deficits."

Some of Bush's proposals are hopelessly unrealistic, such as cutting veterans' medical programs for four years in a row after awarding them a small increase next year. Their costs have nearly doubled during Bush's tenure.


__________________________________________________ _

You may be the second person I've heard of who can type, but cannot read.

[fluff]

you'd think the AP has it in for dubya: " Bush budget would bring record deficits (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080205/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget)".

but a careful read a few paras down reveals the "record deficit":talk about your miserable fale-ures

In the interests of balance, surely you should also quote the next paragraph:

__________________________________________________ __

But even those figures are optimistic since they depend on rosy economic forecasts and leave out the full costs of the war in Iraq. The White House predicts the economy will grow at a 2.7 percent clip this year, far higher than congressional and private economists expect, and the administration's $70 billion figure for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan is simply a placeholder until the next president takes office.
__________________________________________________ __

So by any realistic project it is going to be far larger.

Hey, do you want to buy my bike? It will make you 50% faster than you could ever otherwise be, honest...

[3D.]

We can all claim that one shot in the arm would work better than the other, or that a shot in the arm will only enhance our problems (truly), the fact of the matter is; there is NO stimulus package out there that can make such a correction.

Mark My Words... this country will undergo the largest economical melt-down any country has ever faced.

You can not have a $14-19trill?? global debt, a $150bill a year war, and a steadily devaluing dollar... and just correct it with some more printed monopoly money.

Until this country realizes that we have to get re-involved in manufacturing of goods and components, we will always be on the decline.
Parents have to start influencing there kids into learning trades and hands on skills, but instead we teach them how to be a "great sales person".

Fvck sales... fvck over paid ceo's... and fvck out-sourcing!

No one wants to work hard in this country, and eventually there won't be much to work hard at.

Pyramids and Ponzi schemes, have NEVER prospered. This country will unfortunately follow suit.

[Westy]

Bush's budget is balance by 2012 too.. something that's been ignored as well.

I also plan to skull **** Heidi Klum by 2012. If you put that on the boards in Vegas I'll get the better odds.

[BurlyShirley]

I also plan to skull **** Heidi Klum by 2012. If you put that on the boards in Vegas I'll get the better odds.

Man, I can think of much better holes to violate on Heidi Klum.

[Westy]

Man, I can think of much better holes to violate on Heidi Klum.

Man, I am so desensitized it's just gotta be completely bananas to get me off. -Carl

[$tinkle]

Man, I can think of much better holes to violate on Heidi Klum.MTBF* is less








* mean time between ****ing