I think I am gonna vote mormon on this one...

[N8]

Can't support McCain, no care about Ron Paul, can't spell Gulianniiii, baptists are freaks and their preachers even freakier...

So I am going Mormon just for ol' blue.

Not anywhere near the ideal canidate but is acceptable:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Mitt_Romney.htm

[narlus]

if you thought that the only flip-flopper from MA was Kerry, dig into Mitt's history a bit deeper...

[N8]

One of my major problems with the eCandidate aside from his rabid minions of online supporters, is his lack of anything substantive in his 20 years in Congress... I mean who ever heard of him before now? Wait... no one outside his district in south Texas!

[N8]

if you thought that the only flip-flopper from MA was Kerry, dig into Mitt's history a bit deeper...

frankly i dont vice a flying narlus about his position on abortion if that's what you are talking about.

[narlus]

sounds like you need to do a bit more digging.

[Dartman]

Mr. Game Show Host?! :think:

[N8]

sounds like you need to do a bit more digging.

nah... i'm good now.

thx

[blue]

I hope he wins the primary, he'll get obliterated in the general election. McCain can put up a fight.

[N8]

I hope he wins the primary, he'll get obliterated in the general election. McCain can put up a fight.

highly doubtful... McCain is basically a dem anyway. Hillary can't win the general election even if she was running against a 3rd GW term..

ObammmammaaOprah might be harder to defeat but i think MormonMan can do it because this election is going to hinge on the economy and he has the experience to pull it off where the "O's" dont.

Governor Romney received his B.A., with Highest Honors, from Brigham Young University in 1971. In 1975, he was awarded an MBA from Harvard Business School, where he was named a Baker Scholar, and a J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School.

[H8R]

Awesome choice n8.

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/8/8a/GuySmiley.jpg

[N8]

Awesome choice n8.

http://images.wikia.com/muppet/images/8/8a/GuySmiley.jpg


please keep your finger puppet fetish outta this freak

[Mike B.]

Anyone take electoralcompass.com for a spin?

Bases your "match" on actual voting record of the candidates. Pretty accurate for me with my closest match being who I will vote for in the primary and the next closest being the one I'll likely vote for next November. Mitt "The Robot" Romney didn't come up for either one.

[N8]

Anyone take electoralcompass.com for a spin?

Bases your "match" on actual voting record of the candidates. Pretty accurate for me with my closest match being who I will vote for in the primary and the next closest being the one I'll likely vote for next November. Mitt "The Robot" Romney didn't come up for either one.

yeah i did but there is no way in hell i am voting McCain.

[H8R]

yeah i did but there is no way in hell i am voting McCain.

Why?

Are you voting "anyone but a Dem", and McCain is too close to being a Dem?

[Secret Squirrel]

highly doubtful... McCain is basically a dem anyway. Hillary can't win the general election even if she was running against a 3rd GW term..

ObammmammaaOprah might be harder to defeat but i think MormonMan can do it because this election is going to hinge on the economy and he has the experience to pull it off where the "O's" dont.

I have nothing to back this statement up, but here goes anyway ('cause that's how *I* roll...):

I'm willing to bet my leftover toenail clippings that the 'Merican "public" that see Obama as just an inner-city punk who dresses up nice, that see Hillary as an insensitive cvnt, see Mormonism as the polygimistic evil that will ransack the sanctity of marriage at it's first opportunity.

Entirely different train of thought: If I were Joe-Bob, would I want a guy that could potentially say it's legally, nay!, my freakin' right to have 7 toothless brides....or would I want the guy that probably had been in a few street fights and knows how to dish out street justice to the rag-heads....or would I want so prissy chick who thinks she knows best... The first two are sounding awfully good to Joe-Bob. But then again, Joe-Bob talks in the third person and believes castor oil is something you put in your Chevy...

[N8]

Why?

Are you voting "anyone but a Dem", and McCain is too close to being a Dem?

yes he really is too close the democrats for me but my main problem with him is that the dude's a psycho... if you think Bush was scary.. you've seen nothing if god forbid McCain gets in the White House.

[ohio]

*historic moment*

nate expresses an opinion

[H8R]

*historic moment*

nate expresses an opinion

My jaw is on the fvcking floor.

[N8]

*historic moment*

nate expresses an opinion

:crickets:

[skinny mike]

Anyone take electoralcompass.com for a spin?

Bases your "match" on actual voting record of the candidates. Pretty accurate for me with my closest match being who I will vote for in the primary and the next closest being the one I'll likely vote for next November. Mitt "The Robot" Romney didn't come up for either one.
i just did it and it said i'm closest to obama, which i am pleased with because he was the one i was planning on voting for in the primary anyways.

[N8]

My jaw is on the fvcking floor.

just for you two short busers:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2805994#post2805994

[N8]

Mormons is cool... they even got a Newer New Testament

[blue]

Mormons is cool... they even got a Newer New Testament

It spans from the Old Testament past the New.

Fail.

[robdamanii]

Anyone take electoralcompass.com for a spin?

Bases your "match" on actual voting record of the candidates. Pretty accurate for me with my closest match being who I will vote for in the primary and the next closest being the one I'll likely vote for next November. Mitt "The Robot" Romney didn't come up for either one.

Closest to Edwards, furthest from Huckabee.

[N8]

Closest to Edwards, furthest from Huckabee.

no Condoleezza Rice, no care!!!!

[RenegadeRick]

Anyone take electoralcompass.com for a spin?

Funk, I came up Paul... AGAIN! Who would have thunk it.

[N8]

Funk, I came up Paul... AGAIN! Who would have thunk it.

the UnCandidate!

[kidwoo]

Funk, I came up Paul... AGAIN! Who would have thunk it.

Wonderful.

Now go masturbate.

[stinkyboy]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/mccain_bush-hug-713122-1.jpg

[narlus]

that's touching.


and doesn't W know that pleats are out of fashion?

[stevew]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/theblog/archive/mccain_bush-hug-713122-1.jpg

McCain will not age well if he becomes President.

By year three he may just dry up and blow away.

[$tinkle]

My jaw is on the fvcking floor.i think we're calling that "balls deep"

[Secret Squirrel]

i think we're calling that "balls deep"

Lance did that once...didn't work out so well for Lefty...

[LordOpie]

Are Mormons violent like Jews, xtians, and muslims?

[Westy]

Are Mormons violent like Jews, xtians, and muslims?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_the_Banner_of_Heaven:_A_Story_of_Violent_Fai th

[$tinkle]

google search results for "mormon extremists" = {}

[jimmydean]

sounds like you need to do a bit more digging.

You're asking n8 to research a candidate before he votes?




:rofl:

[moff_quigley]

Are Mormons violent like Jews, xtians, and muslims?

Mountain Meadows Massacre.

[Secret Squirrel]

Are Mormons violent like Jews, xtians, and muslims?

I heard that Jeffs was a mean fvcker...

[LordOpie]

I meant more along the lines of biblically violent. But I suppose they're too young without enough resources to be *that* violent.

[jimmydean]

I meant more along the lines of biblically violent. But I suppose they're too young without enough resources to be *that* violent.

They can beat multiple wifes and STILL get laid. That's bad ass right there.

[$tinkle]

I meant more along the lines of biblically violent. But I suppose they're too young without enough resources to be *that* violent.if you're talking KJV, then they inherited full claim. not exactly ending stake meetings with "amor del rey", but if the muslim brotherhood ever stepped foot in northern arizona, they could get their genocide on.

recall you lot were pretty passive until 60 yrs ago, and now everyone wants to learn krav maga

[dante]

I hope he wins the primary, he'll get obliterated in the general election. McCain can put up a fight.

I was rooting for Huckabee for that exact same reason. McCain and Romney are both at a similar level of toughness, as both have HUGE issues to overcome.

McCain:

Age - the campaign season is tough, and all it'll take is getting lampooned on SnL for being ancient (or crazy) and the view will probably stick. His age will also be *very* apparent if he goes up against the youthful and energetic Obama.

Flip-flopping - "I was against the Bush tax cuts before I was for them." Nowhere near as bad as Romney, but that and other maverick issues will come back to hurt him.

Ostracizing the Establishment - Rushannity & Co have railed against him for years. They're suddenly going to have a Romney-esque epiphany, but it's going to sound cheezy and their listeners won't buy it...

Romney:

MAJOR FLIP-FLOPPER - Comparing any of his positions up until his recent "oh my god I'm going to run for president, I had better change my positions to reflect the GOP base" will show him to be the quintessential washington politician. The sudden and immediate backtracking on health care (Romney-care!!), taxes, government spending, abortion and gay rights (hmmmm, his state is the only state that has legalized gay marriage??) will be the topic over and over and over and over again. How much was spent by the government on The Big Dig during his presidency? How does the electorate really know that he'll elect anti-abortion judges when his history doesn't reflect that?

New Englander - The majority of the GOPs strength is in the south and mid-west, and typically NE'ers don't play well to that area.

High dislike numbers - Probably only 2nd to Hillary as the candidate that most voters don't like, it'll be hard for him to get past the 62% unfavorability rating (http://forums.demopolislive.com/showthread.php?t=19593)...

Think Rudy would've been hardest to take on in the general election, but thanks to right-wing conservatives everywhere, democrats don't have to worry about that... :busted:

[N8]

I am liking Mitt more and more and McCain less and less...

[LordOpie]

I am liking Mitt more and more and McCain less and less...

Me too.

[narlus]

Mitt is a politician's politician. he's smoother than george michael's colon after a handful of exlax.


i had high hopes for his governorship in MA, but he failed on so many points, and lost interest halfway through so he could set his sights on the national stage.

[LordOpie]

Mitt is a politician's politician. he's smoother than george michael's colon after a handful of exlax.


i had high hopes for his governorship in MA, but he failed on so many points, and lost interest halfway through so he could set his sights on the national stage.

I'm sure you're right. Does that mean he's not the most qualified of all the candidates?

[narlus]

i'm not gonna vote republican anyway, so i'm not really paying much attention to that side.

[dante]

Me too.

same here, but all the clips I found were from before his 2005 "oh my god I'm running for president and better appeal to the conservative base" epiphany... he's still pro abortion, pro gun control, pro universal healthcare, pro big government spending, right? :lighten:

[Tmeyer]

Mass. is in debt up to their eyeballs b/c of good ol Mitt. That Harvard education really paid off. Do you really think America will put another openly religious person in the white house?

Edit: If we do we're in worse trouble than I thought.

Go Obama!!!!!!!

[LordOpie]

Do you really think America will put another openly religious person in the white house?
Go Obama!!!!!!!

$5 says that Obama is more religous than Mitt.

And we don't even need to discuss Huckabee or Edwards.

[narlus]

i dunno....mormon's aren't the type to be lackadaisical re: their faith. don't forget the mammoth temple built in Belmont (largest outside of Utah?), which just happens to have violated some building specs and permits, and also happens to be where Mitt lives.

[Tmeyer]

$5 says that Obama is more religous than Mitt.

And we don't even need to discuss Huckabee or Edwards.

As long as its a religion not based on some dude sticking his head in a top hat and calling what he hears the new testament I'm cool.

[LordOpie]

As long as its a religion not based on some dude sticking his head in a top hat and calling what he hears the new testament I'm cool.

Well, that's a pretty fockin' ignorant statement.

How is Smith that much different than Jesus or either of them from David Koresh for that matter.

Lay off the kool-aid and let people be.

[Tmeyer]

I'm not a fan of any religion and I believe it does not belong in the white house. I also think Romney has no foresight for this country, the environment or the economy. Its cool though, he's not going to win. A little sensitive today though aren't we?

[LordOpie]

...
*yawn*

[Tmeyer]

Vote for Romney, I don't care, it doesn't matter. Like I said, HE WILL NOT WIN. Come on back when you have something useful to say though, ok?

[$tinkle]

Mass. is in debt up to their eyeballs b/c of good ol Mitt. That Harvard education really paid off. Do you really think America will put another openly religious person in the white house?
let me guess: you think benjamin franklin was the last closet jebus-freak prez?

[LordOpie]

let me guess: you think benjamin franklin was the last closet jebus-freak prez?

This is why I'm not bothering with Tmeyer... they've all had their "religious" or whatever oddities.

Hell, didn't Reagan consult an astrologer?

[Tmeyer]

I question religious convictions of our possible political leaders therefore I am not worthy?

[Secret Squirrel]

I question religious convictions of our possible political leaders therefore I am not worthy?

No....because of retarded statements like this:

Do you really think America will put another openly religious person in the white house?


Do your research. Openly religious?!? Name one aetheist (hell...I'll settle for agnostic) candidate...I dare ya.

[$tinkle]

I question religious convictions of our possible political leaders therefore I am not worthy?name the last sitting u.s. president who wasn't "openly religious"? the closest you could come is nixon.

upon preview i see secret squirrel is saying something similar, so that's the final wurd.

[LordOpie]

I question religious convictions of our possible political leaders therefore I am not worthy?

Sorry about that. I let my frustrations from talking with another moron on another forum carry on.

[Tmeyer]

Sorry about that. I let my frustrations from talking with another moron on another forum carry on.

Awesome, now I'm a moron. Either take our side or vanish, I think you know where I'm going..... Carry on.

[LordOpie]

Ha!

Take that Squirrel and $tink!

[Secret Squirrel]

Ha!

Take that Squirrel and $tink!

I took it...but I don't think I put it in the right place...:poster_oops:

[$tinkle]

one in the squirrel, 2 in the $tink

[LordOpie]

I love how people ignore legitimate questions and focus on the noise.

[kidwoo]

I love how people ignore legitimate questions and focus on the noise.

"girlz, rawk the boyz"

"We'll get wild..........wild..................wild"

"wild..........wild.......wild:

Wait whut?

Oh yeah.


http://normalbobsmith.com/thesheeples/sheeples_084.jpg

[Greyhound]

highly doubtful... McCain is basically a dem anyway...


McCain's conservative rating from the American Conservative Union in 2006 was 65 (bleh) but his lifetime record is 82.3 at the end of that year. (I don't see any updated numbers that include the 2007 votes.)

Rick Santorum has a lifetime rating 88.1. The ratings are determined by how often a lawmaker votes the conservative position on a key vote.

(Other interesting lifetime ratings.... That squish Lindsey Graham? 90.6 lifetime rating. John Sununu of New Hampshire? 93.2. Trent Lott? 92.4. Sam Brownback? 94.0. Hillary Clinton? 6.2. Barack Obama? 8.0.)

I'm not going to try to persuade readers who are convinced that McCain is liberal or "not conservative" that McCain is a conservative; even if I could muster the rhetorical brilliance and analytical rigor that task requires, I don't think you want to hear it right now.

Note that McCain had been in Congress for 24 years at the time of that rating (in 2006, so it's now more than 25) and thus any one year with a lot of non-conservative votes doesn't pull down that lifetime rating very much. I'll also note that when McCain takes a position to the left of his party or to the conservative base, it's not on quiet, little-noticed issues. Campaign finance reform. The Gang of 14. The immigration deal. The Bush tax cuts. He's not perfect on guns, and he believes in cap and trade to mitigate global warming.

But year after year, there's been a lot of pro-life votes, a lot of defense spending bills, welfare reform efforts, the Republican Revolution of the mid-1990s, voting to impeach Clinton on both counts, Supreme Court justices, etc.

As discussion of Republican primary choices has gotten more heated, I think the terms "liberal", "not conservative" and "not as conservative as I would like" have become synonyms, and that shouldn't be the case.

[stevew]

Hell, didn't Reagan consult an astrologer?
Nancy.

She was running sh!t back then.

[narlus]

nancy's head to body ratio is only matched by victoria beckham's.

[Westy]

McCain's conservative rating from the American Conservative Union in 2006 was 65 (bleh) but his lifetime record is 82.3 at the end of that year. (I don't see any updated numbers that include the 2007 votes.)

Rick Santorum has a lifetime rating 88.1. The ratings are determined by how often a lawmaker votes the conservative position on a key vote.

(Other interesting lifetime ratings.... That squish Lindsey Graham? 90.6 lifetime rating. John Sununu of New Hampshire? 93.2. Trent Lott? 92.4. Sam Brownback? 94.0. Hillary Clinton? 6.2. Barack Obama? 8.0.)

I'm not going to try to persuade readers who are convinced that McCain is liberal or "not conservative" that McCain is a conservative; even if I could muster the rhetorical brilliance and analytical rigor that task requires, I don't think you want to hear it right now.

Note that McCain had been in Congress for 24 years at the time of that rating (in 2006, so it's now more than 25) and thus any one year with a lot of non-conservative votes doesn't pull down that lifetime rating very much. I'll also note that when McCain takes a position to the left of his party or to the conservative base, it's not on quiet, little-noticed issues. Campaign finance reform. The Gang of 14. The immigration deal. The Bush tax cuts. He's not perfect on guns, and he believes in cap and trade to mitigate global warming.

But year after year, there's been a lot of pro-life votes, a lot of defense spending bills, welfare reform efforts, the Republican Revolution of the mid-1990s, voting to impeach Clinton on both counts, Supreme Court justices, etc.

As discussion of Republican primary choices has gotten more heated, I think the terms "liberal", "not conservative" and "not as conservative as I would like" have become synonyms, and that shouldn't be the case.

It would be horrible to have a president that reflected the 'average' views of Americans rather than the average views of either left or right wingers.

[N8]

It would be horrible to have a president that reflected the 'average' views of Americans rather than the average views of either left or right wingers.

that's just carzy talk there!

[H8R]

Didn't n8 have a similar thread a few years ago titled, "I think I am gonna vote moron on this one..."?

[N8]

Didn't n8 have a similar thread a few years ago titled, "I think I am gonna vote moron on this one..."?

pretty sure it was that asshat bomberNoIQ...

[H8R]

pretty sure it was that asshat bomberNoIQ...

OMFG, that guy was such a dick.

[blue]

McCain:

Age - the campaign season is tough, and all it'll take is getting lampooned on SnL for being ancient (or crazy) and the view will probably stick.

:busted:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BKbMkP_XEw

[Changleen]

Is this McCain: 'We're in Iraq for 100 years" and "I'll spend more on Iraq than Bush" McCain we're talking about?