Sharpton to Bill Clinton: 'Shut Up'

[LordOpie]

Sharpton to Bill Clinton: 'Shut Up'
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/sharpton-to-bil.html ^ | 28 Jan 08 | Political Radar blog

Posted on 01/28/2008 12:19:35 PM PST by seanmerc

ABC News' Rick Klein Reports: Rev. Al Sharpton on Monday weighed in on the raging debate inside the Democratic Party over former President Bill Clinton's advocacy on behalf of his wife's campaign, with two choice words for the former president: "Shut up."

On ABC's "The View," Sharpton said voters are hearing "race charges, race-tinged rhetoric" in the Democratic primary campaign, and called on the former president to cease.

"I think it's time for him to just be quiet," said Sharpton, who was a Democratic presidential candidate in 2004. "I think it's time for him to stop. As one of the most outspoken people in America, there's a time to shut up, and I think that time has come."

Sharpton didn't say which comments in particular bothered him. But many Democrats were particularly upset that the former president made an explicit comparison of Obama's campaign to Jesse Jackson's victories in South Carolina in 1984 and 1988, in an apparent attempt to explain why his wife didn't win the South Carolina primary on Saturday.

For his part, Jackson told The New York Times that he wasn't bothered by the comparison. Still, he told the newspaper that he had spoken to both Obama and President Clinton over the weekend, and told both to "take it to a higher ground."

"I think it's time for him to just be quiet," said Sharpton
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[1453]

I remember people say old Bill was the first "black president."

So if he beats the snot out of Sharpton for the dissing, would that constitute as "hate" crime?

FOr that matter, why was Bill the first "black president?"

[manimal]

FOr that matter, why was Bill the first "black president?"

'cause he helped 2 live crew popularize the blowjob.

[valve bouncer]

Well old Al might have been a dickhead in the past but I think his comments were pretty fair here. Bill did put his foot in it from all reports and was told to pull his head in.
It's somewhat patronising for white politicians to expect that Obama will automatically get the black vote, subtext being that they (black voters) are not sophisticated enough to look beyond the appearance and vote on substance. If I was black, I'd be pissed off at that sort of bs as well.

[J-Dubs]

I remember people say old Bill was the first "black president."

So if he beats the snot out of Sharpton for the dissing, would that constitute as "hate" crime?

FOr that matter, why was Bill the first "black president?"

I watched the Daly Show too.

[DaveW]

Well old Al might have been a dickhead in the past but I think his comments were pretty fair here. Bill did put his foot in it from all reports and was told to pull his head in.
It's somewhat patronising for white politicians to expect that Obama will automatically get the black vote, subtext being that they (black voters) are not sophisticated enough to look beyond the appearance and vote on substance. If I was black, I'd be pissed off at that sort of bs as well.

Lucky for Bill your not sophisticated enough to be black then. :D

[jimmydean]

FOr that matter, why was Bill the first "black president?"

He plays jazz and he likes white women?

[$tinkle]

He plays jazz and he likes white women?had no father growing up & lives in harlem?





don't look at me like that

[JohnE]

'cause he helped 2 live crew popularize the blowjob.

I think the blowjob was popular well before that...

[$tinkle]

sharpton's an idiot. we keep saying how progressive the democrats are, then he makes it easy for me to make thinly veiled racist posts like above.

most racist comments, it seems, are funny not b/c they're witty (again, see above), but b/c they're uncomfortable to hear in polite company. big al is complicit in perpetuating this moral serpitude -- err, excuse me -- terpintine.

[manimal]

I think the blowjob was popular well before that...

hmm, but i didn't get one until AFTER the lewinsky scandal so that should mean something right? ;)

[Dartman]

hmm, but i didn't get one until AFTER the lewinsky scandal so that should mean something right? ;)

That you managed to avoid molestation as a minor?

[manimal]

molestation takes on many forms ;)

[kidwoo]

It's somewhat patronising for white politicians to expect that Obama will automatically get the black vote, subtext being that they (black voters) are not sophisticated enough to look beyond the appearance and vote on substance.


Are you familiar with the term "christian voters?"

[N8]

99.99% of America to Bill Clinton: STFU

[valve bouncer]

99.99% of America to Bill Clinton: STFU

99% of RM to N 8: Drink paint stripper

[N8]

99% of RM to N 8: Drink paint stripper

i <3 stripper!

[robdamanii]

Well old Al might have been a dickhead in the past but I think his comments were pretty fair here. Bill did put his foot in it from all reports and was told to pull his head in.
It's somewhat patronising for white politicians to expect that Obama will automatically get the black vote, subtext being that they (black voters) are not sophisticated enough to look beyond the appearance and vote on substance. If I was black, I'd be pissed off at that sort of bs as well.

It sickens me to say this....

I agree with Sharpton on this one.

[N8]

the new struggle for white liberal seeking political power in this election is black vs brown.

while liberals love to divide people by race and by wealth. that's how they stay in power.

But ObamammaamamaOprah is half black and the race card goes to them as far a the black vote. The fight is for the latino now.

[1453]

the new struggle for white liberal seeking political power in this election is black vs brown.

while liberals love to divide people by race and by wealth. that's how they stay in power.

But ObamammaamamaOprah is half black and the race card goes to them as far a the black vote. The fight is for the latino now.

And Richardson dropped out because.....

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

...........

[valve bouncer]

the new struggle for white liberal seeking political power in this election is black vs brown.

while liberals love to divide people by race and by wealth. that's how they stay in power.

But ObamammaamamaOprah is half black and the race card goes to them as far a the black vote. The fight is for the latino now.
Perhaps Al should tell you to button it too as you're making the same patronising whimperings Bill made. Sure some black people are going to vote for Obama because he's black, some women will vote Hillary because she's a woman, others for Huckabee because he's a Christian but that line of reasoning is so simplistic as to be meaningless. Who does the black Christian woman vote for? Underestimating the sophistication of the electorate, despite all the snide remarks on RM (yes I'm guilty), is done at peril of being spectacularly wrong.
I've personally never voted for someone because that person is "one of us", why do you think black people won't think the same way? Al was right, stop treating black people like they're children.

[fluff]

...........

Hell, white America had the **** scared out of it years ago.

[Jim Mac]

Despite living through the 'Al Sharpton Poughkeepsie, NY Invasion' of the 80's (the Tawana Brawley debacle....) I have to agree with old Al on this one!

[N8]

:rofl::rofl::rofl:


Al Sharpton Emerges from Burrow, Declares One More Year of White Guilt

It's become a tradition. On the 22nd day of every January, the Reverends Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson crawl out from their respective burrows. If they don't see their shadows, it means that Dr. King's Dream is yet unrealized, and White America must spend another year flagellating itself for the sins of slavery. If, on the other hand, their shadows do appear, then Dr. King's Dream has at last been realized, and both of these well-respected Black leaders will fade into obscurity.

Sadly, Al Sharpton's elusive shadow was a no-show again this year. Dr. King's Dream, it seems, is still unrealized.

"There are many who have said we are beyond race," Sharpton explained to the disappointed crowd. "But what happened in Jena reminded this country you still have not dealt with the problems of racism."

Sharpton was, of course, referring to the infamous "Jena Six" incident in which six African-American students ambushed and beat a White teen unconscious, then continued to kick and stomp him until they were arrested like common criminals. To the astonishment of everyone, the Black students all faced counts of second-degree attempted murder, while the White boy was never charged - neither for the rape of Tawana Brawley nor for the aforementioned sins of slavery - sins which he has yet to atone for by sending Al Sharpton a check.

So yes, even though Hillary is poised to become our first Black Female President, I'm afraid that we have yet to realize Dr. King's dream of an America where gangs of Black teenagers can brutally assault White kids without any legal repercussions. Until we do, please continue to make your checks payable to the National Action Network or the Rainbow/Push Coalition.

[valve bouncer]

You were doing so well with the opinion thing you had going there N 8, as asinine as they were. Pity you had to spoil it by regurgitating racist clap-trap masquerading as satire like this. Been hanging out at Stormfront.org have we?

[$tinkle]

are you suggesting race-baiting isn't sharpton's stock-in-trade?

[Jim Mac]

are you suggesting race-baiting isn't sharpton's stock-in-trade?

Sharpton has made a living from race baiting! (that and setting the fashion trend of sweat suits and MLK medals worn together...)

[valve bouncer]

are you suggesting race-baiting isn't sharpton's stock-in-trade?
I'm saying N 8's cut and paste was vile racist bullsh*t, typical of the poster. Al's failings, both real and imagined, have been discussed elsewhere. Suffice is to say I was not the only one, as far as this thread is concerned, to think Al had a point.

[$tinkle]

I'm saying N 8's cut and paste was vile racist bullsh*t, typical of the poster. Al's failings, both real and imagined, have been discussed elsewhere. Suffice is to say I was not the only one, as far as this thread is concerned, to think Al had a point.the racist parts i view as vile were true (making them vile) and owned by big al, whereas the other racist parts were birthed from reasonable cynicism, and were only accidentally racist.

i assume you know the relevant chain of events in jena, ja? and the background behind tawana brawley, actions for which he's yet to apologize?

as far as shutting n8 down b/c "Al's failings, both real and imagined, have been discussed elsewhere", might want to bring that up w/ loopie, who started this threshing. big al is nothing more than an opportunistic attention whore, pimping himself without a shred of dignity.

[valve bouncer]

the racist parts i view as vile were true (making them vile) and owned by big al, whereas the other racist parts were birthed from reasonable cynicism, and were only accidentally racist.

i assume you know the relevant chain of events in jena, ja? and the background behind tawana brawley, actions for which he's yet to apologize?

as far as shutting n8 down b/c "Al's failings, both real and imagined, have been discussed elsewhere", might want to bring that up w/ loopie, who started this threshing. big al is nothing more than an opportunistic attention whore, pimping himself without a shred of dignity.
Sorry no amount of frother spin or obfuscation can disguise this as anything but the basest racial invective.
So yes, even though Hillary is poised to become our first Black Female President, I'm afraid that we have yet to realize Dr. King's dream of an America where gangs of Black teenagers can brutally assault White kids without any legal repercussions.
I'm sure the bloke was trying to be all hip and ironic but seems to have failed. Anyway a bit of research suggests it came from here www.blamebush.typepad.com . Make up your own mind.

[N8]

Anyway a bit of research suggests it came from here www.blamebush.typepad.com.

LOL!!!

[valve bouncer]

LOL!!!
Ooooh nice edit N 8. As originally typed
Yes, it's just yet another ubber-liberal blogsite that shows liberalism for what it really it. Racist
I must admit that did give me a nice little giggle, should have kept it.

[N8]

Ooooh nice edit N 8. As originally typed

I must admit that did give me a nice little giggle, should have kept it.

i figured no would have appreciated that.. thx for noticing :p


Bit more on topic:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=24767#continueA

[valve bouncer]

i figured no would have appreciated that.. thx for noticing :p
Dude, you are such an operator. To think I nearly blithely walked into your subtely laid trap.

[N8]

Dude, you are such an operator. To think I nearly blithely walked into your subtely laid trap.

I am NINJA!

[$tinkle]

Sorry no amount of frother spin or obfuscation can disguise this as anything but the basest racial invective.
So yes, even though Hillary is poised to become our first Black Female President, I'm afraid that we have yet to realize Dr. King's dream of an America where gangs of Black teenagers can brutally assault White kids without any legal repercussions.sorry, i missed where there was an outcry from the black community about toni morrison's knighting of bill clinton as the first black president. could it be that she's black? here's a paragraph from her famous column knighting (or indicting?) him as black:African-American men seemed to understand it right away. Years ago, in the middle of the Whitewater investigation, one heard the first murmurs: white skin notwithstanding, this is our first black President. Blacker than any actual black person who could ever be elected in our children's lifetime. After all, Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas. And when virtually all the African-American Clinton appointees began, one by one, to disappear, when the President's body, his privacy, his unpoliced sexuality became the focus of the persecution, when he was metaphorically seized and bodysearched, who could gainsay these black men who knew whereof they spoke? The message was clear "No matter how smart you are, how hard you work, how much coin you earn for us, we will put you in your place or put you out of the place you have somehow, albeit with our permission, achieved. You will be fired from your job, sent away in disgrace, and--who knows?--maybe sentenced and jailed to boot. In short, unless you do as we say (i.e., assimilate at once), your expletives belong to us."i find it disturbing that blacks can tar their own kind & get a pass, but when reminded of a given label by a (presumably) white columnist/blog, liberals start beating the drums of racism.

and as far as the purposeful misrepresentation of dr king's peaceful message, this is cynicism, not racism. it is not presented as perceived truth

[LordOpie]

Suffice is to say I was not the only one, as far as this thread is concerned, to think Al had a point.

Isn't it possible that one loses the "right" to say anything when they've talked so much crap for so long?

Right or wrong, people need to ignore Sharpton.

[fluff]

Isn't it possible that one loses the "right" to say anything when they've talked so much crap for so long?

Right or wrong, people need to ignore Sharpton.

**** Loopie, we can't even ignore N8 on that basis, what's the chance of it happening with anyone who has a real platform?

[valve bouncer]

Isn't it possible that one loses the "right" to say anything when they've talked so much crap for so long?


This message is hidden because LordOpie is on your ignore list
WTF????:twitch::busted:

[LordOpie]

**** Loopie, we can't even ignore N8 on that basis, what's the chance of it happening with anyone who has a real platform?

So you're saying that reality needs an "ignore function"?

[$tinkle]

So you're saying that reality needs an "ignore function"?ah, newlyweds...

[LordOpie]

ah, newlyweds...

I owe you several reps+ :rofl:


Silence is golden, but duct tape is silver.

[valve bouncer]

Don't be patronising Stink I am well aware of the context of the "black president" remark. Toni Morrison's remark actually re-inforces the point of Al's remarks i.e that black people related so well to Clinton because they related to him as a person not as a skin colour.
This bloggers attempts to be cynically funny fell flat in my book. Not in yours obviously.

[$tinkle]

"black people related so well to clinton", meaning what? just those who exhibited criminal behaviour or personal failure? how exactly is this not perpetuating racist stereotypes? this implies that entrepreneurial, upwardly mobile, family oriented blacks have no brief w/ bill?*









*(or is it boxers?)

[$tinkle]

i'm lovin it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79fnYlU7F0

[BurlyShirley]

i'm lovin it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_79fnYlU7F0

A buddy of mine recently returned home to the states after a couple years teaching in the Czech Republic. He saw the McD's commercial for the "McSkillet" breakfast burrito and was all like "WTF? How do they get away with marketing like that?"
I guess its not as obvious to us because we've been eased into it, but it's pretty funny that they named the burrito "McSkillet" and use only black people in the commercials. :rofl:

[$tinkle]

you should tell him about how the mcrib is marketed. (hint: they don't play flock of seaguls for bg music)

[X3pilot]

Wasn't the whole "Mickey D's" thing when it started focused to the "urban" community?

Speaking of race, the news made a big deal about the first black referee this year in the Superbowl. WTF?/ Does it matter? I understand the barriers thing but seriously, it's old now. If race shouldn't be a factor and most minorities say that race shouldn't matter, then quit bringing it the F up!!!

[BurlyShirley]

Wasn't the whole "Mickey D's" thing when it started focused to the "urban" community?

Speaking of race, the news made a big deal about the first black referee this year in the Superbowl. WTF?/ Does it matter? I understand the barriers thing but seriously, it's old now. If race shouldn't be a factor and most minorities say that race shouldn't matter, then quit bringing it the F up!!!


...Christopher Columbus had no contribution to history, Indians were already here!

[$tinkle]

...Christopher Columbus had no contribution to history, Indians were already here!they must've chased out the mormons (http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/gardenofeden.htm)

[N8]

So did Al Sharpton see his shadow or not?

[fluff]

So did Al Sharpton see his shadow or not?

Can you see yours?

[LordOpie]

So did Al Sharpton see his shadow or not?

He's a shadow of his former self.