What good has Bush done? [Archive]

LordOpie

01-25-2008, 07:01 PM

http://www.dems.gov/index.asp?Type=B_PR&SEC=%7BD68CD0B2-1442-4804-9F6B-AF67DE7FF585%7D&DE=%7BFDD09C4F-E958-4E13-A92B-179C2FAC6FEA%7D&Design=PrintView

While fascinating, I really would like to know about this Admin's accomplishments, seriously :)

DirtyDog

01-25-2008, 07:03 PM

Well, before Bush I certainly took for granted things like personal liberties but now I actually understand that these things have value and need to be constantly protected. Seriously.

stinkyboy

01-25-2008, 07:03 PM

His administration has done nothing for you. Nothing. Move along.

drkenan

01-25-2008, 08:13 PM

Well, before Bush I certainly took for granted things like personal liberties but now I actually understand that these things have value and need to be constantly protected. Seriously.

That's actually a very valid point.

I'm sure you're referring to positive accomplishments for everyone, however if you're with the right, big business or just plain rich, I'd say he's had a ton of accomplishments. Other than that I seriously can't think of anything off the top of my head that his administration has done to benefit the rest of us.

Unless of course you count the $600 check I may get in the next few months. :clapping:

MMike

01-25-2008, 08:32 PM

He made the word nucular popular again........

$tinkle

01-25-2008, 08:58 PM

We're always bashing him and I actually don't know what positive legislation, diplomatic papers, or whatever his Admin has achieved, so please list them. - vetoed SCHIP & fed funding of embryonic stem cells.
- gave a pissload of money to african nations for teh canada-loving ass aids
- every measure of gwot funding w/o any opposition party strings
- proved that truly most anyone can get re-elected. you know how bad that makes carter look? [silver: "and his dad..."]
- no child lef^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
- medicare drug prescription program
- got us to talk & hopefully learn

as far as that whole m.e. peace thing...yeah...i'm going to have to ask you to leave now. i bet those pesky palis blew the egyptian border out of spite for his overreaching.

LordOpie

01-25-2008, 09:01 PM

- vetoed SCHIP ...
was that good?

Westy

01-25-2008, 09:02 PM

- vetoed SCHIP & fed funding of embryonic stem cells.
- gave a pissload of money to african nations for teh canada-loving ass aids
- every measure of gwot funding w/o any opposition party strings
- proved that truly most anyone can get re-elected. you know how bad that makes carter look? [silver: "and his dad..."]
- no child lef^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
- medicare drug prescription program
- got us to talk & hopefully learn

as far as that whole m.e. peace thing...yeah...i'm going to have to ask you to leave now. i bet those pesky palis blew the egyptian border out of spite for his overreaching.

Most of those are based on opinion and I'll give you them but no child left behind is probably one of the biggest cluster****s if you ask me. All it has done is lower the level of education for all children to the level of the last percentile. Sometimes you need to let the turds sink to the bottom.

jimmydean

01-25-2008, 09:03 PM

He gave us the Department of Homeland Security, so we can all sleep better at night.

He proved how important the UN is by appointing John Bolton as Permanent US Representative to the UN.

He also put together this awesome economic stimulus package that will save us all before he leave office.

$tinkle

01-25-2008, 09:07 PM

was that good?i believe so, b/c it treated the economic symptom while failing to leave a broken healthcare system intact. i see it as enabling poor administration, so for it to be vetoed could be viewed as ironic.

SPINTECK

01-25-2008, 09:28 PM

Actually made some (only some) Christians aware that republican legislators lie to get their vote.

He's also given Cheney several heart attacks.

kidwoo

01-25-2008, 09:57 PM

- vetoed SCHIP & fed funding of embryonic stem cells.
- gave a pissload of money to african nations for teh canada-loving ass aids
- every measure of gwot funding w/o any opposition party strings
- proved that truly most anyone can get re-elected. you know how bad that makes carter look? [silver: "and his dad..."]
- no child lef^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H
- medicare drug prescription program
- got us to talk & hopefully learn

Are you kidding?

That pissload of money to african nations came with the stipulation that condom use is not an option in education and that abstinence would be the means.

The medicare program was nothing more than bending over for pfizer and the like.

Vetoed federally funded stem cell research: please explain the benefits of that one to me. You're not that jesus freaky are you?

LordOpie

01-25-2008, 10:11 PM

Let's not abuse Bush supporters.

At least let's get the best list of Bush Admin contributions first :)

DaveW

01-25-2008, 10:53 PM

OohOoh he let lord Cheney get away with shooting a lawyer in the face! :D
So he showed how the right to bare arms is a social good!
How can that be bad! :rofl:

Changleen

01-25-2008, 11:33 PM

AFAIK the only 'good' thing is the increase in pure aid money to Africa. Actually I'm not really sure that is a good thing anyway.

Seriously the hideousness outweighs the good by 100 times at least.

Worst president ever.

slein

01-25-2008, 11:52 PM

He's also given Cheney several heart attacks.

anybody who shoots a lawyer in the face and gets away with it is alright in my books. leave the onion eater alone.

and i've stopped making fun of SHRUB... every since I saw Little Bush

... the cheerleader episode was an instant classic ...

he's got a great team that was able to lie it's way out of anything. class act. oh, and I need a passport now to cross his undefended border. nice. that's okay... and thanks for refusing to sign Kyoto because helping the environment now to save the economy later is not such a great idea. especially if you cannot spell potato or bring the fight to the terrorists in the land of oil... but he did it. hat's off. he caught Saddam Hussein (i have a watch with his pic on it from Iraq :D )... Bin Laden's still a large, but I remember SHRUB saying he wasn't concerned about him anymore (last I heard... years ago when I cared).

he's probably pleased with his effort, despite having lots of time off (I think I sound like Michael Moore...), so let him have his day in the spotlight. hopefully your country will take this opportunity to elect someone to office who might make a plausible difference, even if there are voting irregularities or you don't win the popular vote.

still, anything can happen, right?

ChrisRobin

01-26-2008, 12:06 AM

I don't really think he was 'supposed' to do anything positive. I think it was all about facilitating his buddies at the top, make money and start a war and have fun while doing it.

valve bouncer

01-26-2008, 04:36 AM

Damn, the internet must be maturing....18 posts in and no-one started a lame Life Of Brian, "What have the Romans ever done for us" line.
:thumb:

$tinkle

01-26-2008, 09:30 AM

Worst president ever.william howard taft much?

sheesh...

LordOpie

01-26-2008, 09:43 AM

william howard taft much?

sheesh...

What did Taft do that was so bad?

DaveW

01-26-2008, 10:09 AM

Damn, the internet must be maturing....18 posts in and no-one started a lame Life Of Brian, "What have the Romans ever done for us" line.
:thumb:

I would have, but you told me off last time I brought the python into this pit of frothers. :(

Look everyone, come witness the violence inherent in VB's system!!!

valve bouncer

01-26-2008, 12:03 PM

william howard taft much?

sheesh...
If further evidence is needed of why El-Stinko is the best frother* on this board then I'll need to see it.

That means leastest cunt:thumb:

jimmydean

01-26-2008, 04:42 PM

What did Taft do that was so bad?

I thought we were talking "good"?

blue

01-26-2008, 07:28 PM

What did Taft do that was so bad?

I'm told he devoured an entire kindergarten choir group in one sitting...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e1/WmHTaft.jpg/449px-WmHTaft.jpg

MikeD

01-26-2008, 07:40 PM

r464

01-26-2008, 10:50 PM

He helped a whole lot of people realize that they were smart enough to become president.

splat

01-27-2008, 08:02 AM

william howard taft much?

sheesh...

Warren G Harding comes to mind for me .

and Herbert Hoover wasn't so good either.

Bush is by no means teh worst president we have had , yup in the top 10 but by no means the worst.

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:08 PM

vetoed SCHIPwas that good?ok, some follow up to demonstrate through example how this bloated system could be exploited.

remember graeme frost, a second-grader who famously rebutted bush's veto of s-chip? he was the lad who had a severe accident & would have not been able to receive financial/medical aid if not for the golden goose known as s-chip (his family chose to not have health insurance). his father owns his company, where his mother also works. on paper, their income is $45K/annum. the rest of their assets are protected in an LLC. but somehow, they manage to send wee graeme & his sister (who was also severely injured in the same auto accident) to a private grammar school to the tune of $20k/year each. this on top the fact they live in a 3,000+ sq ft house valued over half a mill.

point is, americans are living far more lavishly than our lazy gov't would care to find out, and s-chip enables them. as we can see from the subprime debacle, we need to sack up & start making sound, responsible decisions. the gov't should exist to protect us, and not for reasons of co-dependency.

LordOpie

01-28-2008, 02:15 PM

ok, some follow up to demonstrate through example how this bloated system could be exploited.

I'm not sure I'm willing to punish so many poor children cuz a few a-holes exploit the system.

In fact, I'm positive I'm not.

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:22 PM

I'm not sure I'm willing to punish so many poor children cuz a few a-holes exploit the system.

In fact, I'm positive I'm not.nor i.
but i won't stop there. if they're truly poor - not poor cuz they cook books - they're covered under medicaid. s-chip is for those middle-class types who've made really ****ty decisions at the expense of their kids' health.

why don't we meet half-way: for those middle-class parents who aren't able/willing to pony up the cash by selling off some stock or re-fi their mcmansion, these kids should be put into the foster system with all the other 'lesser' children. that's what the system does to children who they see as having picked irresponsible parents.

Westy

01-28-2008, 02:24 PM

Although I hardly think it's significant in the face of the damage, he did help the dumb assault weapons ban expire without renewal.

Even if you're for gun control, you have to admit that the ban accomplished nothing significant.

He got rid of something worthless? Simply by replacing Bush the next pres will have accomplished just as much in their first minute in office.

LordOpie

01-28-2008, 02:25 PM

nor i.
but i won't stop there. if they're truly poor - not poor cuz they cook books - they're covered under medicaid. s-chip is for those middle-class types who've made really ****ty decisions at the expense of their kids' health.

why don't we meet half-way: for those middle-class parents who aren't able/willing to pony up the cash by selling off some stock or re-fi their mcmansion, these kids should be put into the foster system with all the other 'lesser' children. that's what the system does to children who they see as having picked irresponsible parents.

hmm, I see what you're saying, so we'll go with that as a positive for GWB's legacy, since that's what my intention was with this thread.

Taking the derail train... I think we should have free universal healthcare, so maybe the SCHIP is the beginning? Maybe it should be expanded to ALL minors, regardless of wealth?

syadasti

01-28-2008, 02:26 PM

He got rid of something worthless? Simply by replacing Bush the next pres will have accomplished just as much in their first minute in office.

Considering he didn't do anything (just let it expire) that wouldn't count as getting something done.

jdschall

01-28-2008, 02:29 PM

He rearranged daylight savings time back about a month in the spring and up by a week in the fall. As far being able to bike after work during daylight hours goes, he's the best president ever.

syadasti

01-28-2008, 02:34 PM

He rearranged daylight savings time back about a month in the spring and up by a week in the fall. As far being able to bike after work during daylight hours goes, he's the best president ever.

That was Congress and it was a waste of time and money:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070403-the-daylight-savings-change-no-savings-no-point.html

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:35 PM

Taking the derail train... I think we should have free universal healthcare, so maybe the SCHIP is the beginning? Maybe it should be expanded to ALL minors, regardless of wealth?for things like non-urgent care, i don't have much disagreement there. where i balk is the major stuff that breaks the back of hospitals (and in border town gets them closed).

i guess it doesn't really matter how an acl gets torn: whether it's deshawn playing 3-man or cole on the moguls.

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:36 PM

Considering he didn't do anything (just let it expire) that wouldn't count as getting something done.if you had spent even one tour in the air force you would know you get a ribbon every other quarter for leaving schyte alone.

Westy

01-28-2008, 02:39 PM

hmm, I see what you're saying, so we'll go with that as a positive for GWB's legacy, since that's what my intention was with this thread.

Taking the derail train... I think we should have free universal healthcare, so maybe the SCHIP is the beginning? Maybe it should be expanded to ALL minors, regardless of wealth?

Just incrementing medicaid coverage to eventually include everyone and keeping the healthcare system the same as it is would be a disaster. Any universal coverage plan needs to start with a ground up reorganization of the cluster**** that exists today. Of course too many wealthy and powerfull companies have their hands deep in the cookie jar to ever let this happen.

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:41 PM

Just incrementing medicaid coverage to eventually include everyone and keeping the healthcare system the same as it is would be a disaster. Any universal coverage plan needs to start with a ground up reorganization of the cluster**** that exists today. Of course too many wealthy and powerfull companies have their hands deep in the cookie jar to ever let this happen.i have a dr's appt as part of my 40th tomorrow. i hope he doesn't treat my ass like a cookie jar.

LordOpie

01-28-2008, 02:45 PM

i have a dr's appt as part of my 40th tomorrow. i hope he doesn't treat my ass like a cookie jar.

Don't get a hard-on.

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:50 PM

Don't get a hard-on.i guess that means no highlights mags in the waiting room for me.

ire

01-28-2008, 02:51 PM

Bush proved pre-emptive war doesn't work, hopefully no other dumba** president will try it again. I consider that a plus

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 02:54 PM

Bush proved pre-emptive war doesn't workit worked just fine. iraq fell & continues to fall to this day.

LordOpie

01-28-2008, 02:56 PM

i guess that means no highlights mags in the waiting room for me.
wow! That's focked up :twitch:

:clapping:

LordOpie

01-28-2008, 03:07 PM

What about Medicare Part D?

Is that an accomplishment? Seems like most people like it?

H8R

01-28-2008, 03:07 PM

What good has Bush done?

:think:

I got nothing.

Silver

01-28-2008, 03:18 PM

i guess that means no highlights mags in the waiting room for me.

Are you a Goofus or Gallant man?

$tinkle

01-28-2008, 03:23 PM

Are you a Goofus or Gallant man?neither. i alternate tween poozy, woozy and piddy.

it was only obvious in later years my conflict was with my inner bear.

Dartman

01-28-2008, 04:31 PM

Bush rode a mountain bike.

But then again so did Paris Hilton. :think:

DaveW

01-28-2008, 10:13 PM

Bush rode a mountain bike.

But then again so did Paris Hilton. :think:

Oh god our sport is doomed. :panic:

:nopity:

ire

01-29-2008, 11:07 AM

Bush rode a mountain bike.

He even crashed a few times

ATOMICFIREBALL

01-30-2008, 05:57 AM

He's working on getting Osama !

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g126/highrevtn/bush_batphone.jpg

RenegadeRick

01-30-2008, 06:56 AM

He's working on getting Osama !

You really can't be that ignorant.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Q But don't you believe that the threat that bin Laden posed won't truly be eliminated until he is found either dead or alive?

THE PRESIDENT: Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.