cranks pissing you off too?

[xtremedoritoes]

Ok what the hell?

I've gone through a pair of XTs, 2 pairs of 06 RaceFace Evolve DH, and now my 07 hussefelts are dying on me. ALL WERE SPINDLE-CRANK PROBLEMS. well xt was the BB...

Here I am 185 pounds seldom hard DH riding only about 9 trips to Diablo this season and killed my 2nd set of evolves and the hussefelts came home messed up after the last race!

What cranks do people recommend? My trust towards raceface is dim now and would take a lot of convincing for me to buy something from them again. :disgust1:

Thanks guys!

[xtremedoritoes]

oh by spindle-crank problems i mean LOOSENING. I shouldn't need to use 1/4 tube of locktite to keep my cranks on for a week.

Don't you agree?

[.Pit Steelers.]

Diabolus,
Profile ,
Have.
Fun.

[-dustin]

are you checking them after the first ride following the initial install?

why'd you get rid of the XTs if it was a BB issue and not a crank/ spindle issue?

[zahgurim]

Yeah... I say stick with either XT or Saint, and make sure the frame is faced first.
You should have no equipment problems after that. Be sure to periodically check your bolts for tightness.

[BrooklynMachine]

We've had really good experiences with most of the shimano external BB offereings as of late. Lay down for some Hones or Saints, as end of the year sales are kickin' right now.

[DownCycles_Stef]

Also make sure you are tightening the cranks properly when you install them. A lot of the new 2-piece cranks require a HUGE amount of torque to set them up properly (I'm talking a 3 foot breaker bar on the end of a 18" torque wrench, something like 600ft/lbs). Also keep in mind that no matter how solid a design is, you need to check your bolts, preferably after each ride. But assuming you were, do check out the Shimano stuff, it has definatley been becoming the top choice.

[mandown]

deity :thumb:

[DavidMakalaster]

I'm guessing the problem with the Hussies and RF was play developing in the splines? that's because press-fit designs are flawed. If you take them on and off too many times that will happen no matter what you do. On the XT did you replace the bottom bracket cups? You can do that you know. Get another pinch-bolt style setup.

[Zark]

Get some Saint's and be done with it.

[Stray_cat]

I've worn out any ISIS offering that I've owned (RF, Truvative), but once I went external, not a single problem.

[Sir_Crackien]

yeah 2 piece cranks are way better than isis or octilink. i ahve used saints, diabolis, and the gravities. all are nice. the diabolis are heavy and i don't like the setup as well. the saints and gravities are about the same. i would say the saints are a little better though.

[in the trees]

deity :thumb:

deity :thumb:

Just installed their new Vendetta cranks this afternoon. Very, very, nice!

toby

[r464]

Middleburn

[formermtboarder]

Profiles and never worry again, I've had the same issues with all isis cranks I've ever used. I have heard good things about Diablous though

[gonefirefightin]

saints

[mandown]

Middleburn
http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/vcs/dennert/archives/money.jpg

[r464]

One set of Middleburns is much less than the four sets of cranks he's destroyed so far :)

[Metal Dude]

Profile - Lifetime Warranty!

[skinny mike]

Also make sure you are tightening the cranks properly when you install them. A lot of the new 2-piece cranks require a HUGE amount of torque to set them up properly (I'm talking a 3 foot breaker bar on the end of a 18" torque wrench, something like 600ft/lbs).
ummm.... what cranks would required this much torque? my guess is that something else is wrong if you need to use that much force to install a set of cranks.

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

I have problems with all ISIS BB/Cranks with the crank bolts coming loose!
.
Right now i'm using a RF Evolve XC cranks & they have come loose 2x so far.
I may have to also use significant amounts of loctite on that bolt!
Should have kept my Saints, or Kona Buldge chromoly cranks!

[xtremedoritoes]

Yeah saints look like their on the menu. However, I might throw on some Odyssey 41 thermals because they've lasted 4 years on my bmx bike. They are 48 Spline like the Diety and Profiles but cost way less.

Now who ever uses the deity cranks, is it on a hard tail or DH rig? I'm not too sure if i wanted to try the 48 spline on a DH rig.


Also, they weren't XT's they were LX's. my bad.

[DirtyMike]

Ive been running RF Prodigyxc cranks for DH and FR for about 5 years now, still no problems aside from wearing out the original BB that came with the set, just got noisy, same set has been on three bikes now, havent had them come loose, All I can say is Proper assembly everytime, or dont expect them to last, Get a good Inch lb torque wrench, read the directions, and go.

[DirtyMike]

Another vote for Saints here By the way, Second would be the Diabolus, Still Proper install will be the key to longevity of your cranks, also proper maintance.

[r464]

Current crank list:

Middleburn (3 sets)
Race Face Deus X-Type
Race Face Turbine LP (2 Sets)
Race Face North Shore XS
Shimano XT
FSA K-Force external
DMR X-Type
Campagnolo Record Track
Profile (2 sets)
Shimano Dura-Ace (Octalink)
Truvativ Hussfelt OCT
Truvativ Holzfeller
Truvativ GXP
Truvativ Power-Spline
Bontrager
Sugino
FMF
Echo
Koxx
...and a few others

The Middleburns are the cranks that I wish were on every bike. They are very tough to acquire in the USA, but worth it. The DMRs are heavy, but strong as they could be. The Profiles are overkill if you are not grinding the hell out of them, but they will last. The Race Face are nice, in that the bolt is on the drive side, but their bearings are suspect. The external-bearing cranks with the bolt on the non-drive-side will loosen regularly.

I have had BBs from most companies out there, too. If you look at your BB and cranks separately and choose the best option for each, you will be more satisfied. Some companies make great crankarms, but terrible bottom brackets. Some companies make great bottom brackets, but don't make cranks.

Choose the best for each (considering how you ride) and you'll eventually find the best combination.

[xtremedoritoes]

Ive been running RF Prodigyxc cranks for DH and FR for about 5 years now, still no problems aside from wearing out the original BB that came with the set, just got noisy, same set has been on three bikes now, havent had them come loose, All I can say is Proper assembly everytime, or dont expect them to last, Get a good Inch lb torque wrench, read the directions, and go.

I followed the directions for the Race Face and used the correct number of spacers. Cranked it down till the right arm reached the end of the splines and it still wobbled. I checked things twice the second time around. I'm done with Race Face

So now my question is shimano's hollowtech or deity/profile/odyssey 48 spline design?

[zahgurim]

Between Profiles/Saints? Go with whatever you can get cheapest.

I rock them both on a few different bikes, they are both great setups.

[Sir_Crackien]

saints. they are WAY less hassle than any BMX style crank. they are also a good amount lighter and i even found them to be even stiffer (noticeable).

[rollertoaster]

I run a set of gravity 48spline BMX cranks on my bottlerocket. I like them better than the saints on my big bike. I think I want to try out those new deity vendetta's. I don't know where to find a set yet though.

[in the trees]

. . . I think I want to try out those new deity vendetta's. I don't know where to find a set yet though.

Call Deity direct to get a set - http://www.deitycomponents.com/vendetta_main.htm

You'll love 'em!

toby

[rollertoaster]

Call Deity direct to get a set - http://www.deitycomponents.com/vendetta_main.htm

You'll love 'em!

toby

thanks but, not till after Christmas. Between presents, bills, and new tires for the car, I'm broke!