King 150 Rear

[dropmachine.com]

Dunno if many have seen this live yet. Just got in a King 150 rear. Damn nice looking hub, thats for sure.

327g

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[Fulton]

beautiful hub, but it doesn't build dishless though

[bballe336]

beautiful hub, but it doesn't build dishless though

Really? That's weird.

[DhDork]

beautiful hub, but it doesn't build dishless though

Different size spokes for driveside vs. non-driveside?

[dante]

sure about that? looks a lot closer to zero dish than the dt swiss rear...

http://www.dtswiss.com/data/images/HUB_VAR_51219144237.jpg

[Polandspring88]

That weight is with the alloy freehub I take it?

[jon-boy]

sure about that? looks a lot closer to zero dish than the dt swiss rear...

http://www.dtswiss.com/data/images/HUB_VAR_51219144237.jpg

Yeah, that's one sad thing about that hub design. I don't think Hadley 150mm hubs are much better for that either. Kind of makes a mockery of bothering with the wider hub.

Still those King hubs are stunning.

[dropmachine.com]

That weight is with the alloy freehub I take it?

Yep. So, add a bit with the stainless one. Still, pretty impressive, weight wise and visually.

[big-ted]

Yeah, that's one sad thing about that hub design. I don't think Hadley 150mm hubs are much better for that either. Kind of makes a mockery of bothering with the wider hub.



I dunno. Looks to me like the rim would sit dead central in the flanges when centred in the dropouts (ends of the axle) on the DT. Granted, the flanges are closer than they could be, but the spokes will be of equal length, and even tension, therefore a strong, dishless wheel will result. In contrast, the King has wider flanges, but longer/less tension spokes will be needed on the non driveside. Which gives the stronger wheel, I couldn't say, but I would have thought that the DT setup would be the one that technically gives the "dishless" wheel.

[Fulton]

sure about that? looks a lot closer to zero dish than the dt swiss rear...

http://www.dtswiss.com/data/images/HUB_VAR_51219144237.jpg

Actually, the dt swiss 440 fr is one of the only 150mm hubs that build dishless:


440fr 150mm: 58mm flange L&R, 26.1mm c to l, 26.2mm c to r

dt swiss 340: 58mm flange L&R, 26mm center to flange L&R

hope pro II: 56mm flange left, 54mm flange right, 24mm c to l, 28mm c to r

chris king 150: 57.4 hub flange left and right, 25mm c to l, 38.5 c to r

[Fulton]

Yeah, that's one sad thing about that hub design. I don't think Hadley 150mm hubs are much better for that either. Kind of makes a mockery of bothering with the wider hub.

Still those King hubs are stunning.

i wouldn't call a single spoke length, and uniform spoke tension a bad thing.

[cederrowe]

Just a quick question, alloy free hub body over stainless? On a DH hub? I think I'll take a few extra grams to have stainless life span over alloy.

[jon-boy]

i wouldn't call a single spoke length, and uniform spoke tension a bad thing.

I stand corrected.

I'm wondering if the wider triangulation would actually build a stronger wheel? Whatever it is what it is and the King hubs are still mighty pretty to look at.

[Fulton]

I stand corrected.

I'm wondering if the wider triangulation would actually build a stronger wheel? Whatever it is what it is and the King hubs are still mighty pretty to look at.

I couldn't agree more, the finish quality and construction of king components are incredible. as for the spacing thing, i couldn't say for sure.

[Tootrikky]

I stand corrected.

I'm wondering if the wider triangulation would actually build a stronger wheel? Whatever it is what it is and the King hubs are still mighty pretty to look at.

On Sheldon Brown's website there is a link to a study of wheel construction verses stiffness. They basically hang a weight off of the edge of the wheel who's hub is attached to a fixture, and see how far it deflects. The biggest factor by far affecting deflection was the width of the flange or triangulation.

[jon-boy]

On Sheldon Brown's website there is a link to a study of wheel construction verses stiffness. They basically hang a weight off of the edge of the wheel who's hub is attached to a fixture, and see how far it deflects. The biggest factor by far affecting deflection was the width of the flange or triangulation.

And that to my engineering trained mind, makes perfect sense.