Sinister Simon Bar 29

[RD3]

I finally have a 29er! I love how it rides. :)

Specs:
•Sinister Simon Bar 29 frame by FTW 4.5lbs
•RockShox Reba 100mm
•Chris King headset 134g
•Salsa Pro Moto carbon 11° bars 126g
•Hope stem 157g
•ODI Rogue lock-on grips with Straightline End caps
•Hope Mini brakes w/ power clamps, 165mm rotors, Dangerboy levers & KoolStop pads
•Race Face Turbine LP isis cranks 175mm
•Race Face Signiture XS bottom bracket
•Spot 32t hard ano chainring & alloy chainring bolts
•Spot bash guard & N-gear jump stop
•Shimano XT cassette 11-34
•Shimano XT rear derailleur short cage, alloy lower pulley & bolts
•Sram PC 89R hollow pin hollow link chain
•Shimano XT shifter, no indicator, alloy bolt 93g
•Selle San Marco Era Nitetrain saddle
•Thomson seatpost w/ Salsa lip lock clamp
•Nokon full length shift housing
•Dark Cycles Arachnid pedals 415g
•WTB Laser Disc 29" 32H rims laced to Hope Pro II hubs with DT Swiss SuperComp spokes and alloy nipples
•Maxxis Ignitor 2.1 rear & Panaracer Rampage 2.35 front
•Continental 26 tubes
•••Total weight = 24.8 lbs

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simon_bar_29_1.jpg
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[pinkshirtphotos]

i think i just came in my pants what flippin nice build and bike!!!!!!!!

[Munster]

Looks amazing. Love the gold/green accents.

[MMcG]

Mighty Nice. Does your front end feel "tall" to you?

[RD3]

Mighty Nice. Does your front end feel "tall" to you?

The front end feels comfortable to me the way it is set up with salsa flat bars and a zero rise stem with 5mm of spacers under it. The head tube is 4.5" tall and is very strong how it is constructed.
The slope of the top tube might make the front end look higher than it is.

[MMcG]

Thanks for the reply. You sure did spec it out well. Looks amazing!

[helimech]

NICE BUILD. If you don't mind me asking, how much was the frame??? I'm now kicking myself in the ass for buying a niner EMD frame and not this one. This sinister would've been a nice friend to my R9. Thier web site says nothing about a 29er. Later.

[RD3]

This is one of six prototype frames made. Production frames should be available in a couple months.
I am not sure what msrp will be.

[tozovr]

Man, now I'm wishing I had #3 too!!!!

Great build Rob!!

[MMcG]

NICE BUILD. If you don't mind me asking, how much was the frame??? I'm now kicking myself in the ass for buying a niner EMD frame and not this one. This sinister would've been a nice friend to my R9. Thier web site says nothing about a 29er. Later.

Bullitboyz has one for sale in the classifieds.

[tozovr]

Retail is $850 or so.

[helimech]

Bullitboyz has one for sale in the classifieds.

Hey thanx i'll check it out.

[MMcG]

Hey thanx i'll check it out.

Happy to help. Look in the hardtail frames category.

[Bullitboyz]

Bullitboyz has one for sale in the classifieds.

hmmmm maybe NOT after looking at these pix!:brows:

only an $850 price tag on a production frame?
that's pretty durned cheap for a Vermont-made piece of art, specially since it costs HIM $700 to fabricate and powdercoat it!

anyways, Rob i have a perty custom pewter Jen Greene headbadge for that bad boy if you're interested...
http://pics.bikerag.com/Uploads/data//500/medium/JGbadge.jpg

[Psychic_Pimp]

Bullitboyz has one for sale in the classifieds.

No!

You can't have it, It's Mine, All Mine!

Mu-ha-ha-ha!! :rockout:

[Bullitboyz]

hey not to derail this fine thread in another direction, but...

FTW is planning to fabricate the singlespeed sliding dropouts for these frames next week and wants to know who's interested in a set (I would suggest EVERYONE be interested:brows: )

so.. either let Frank know, or pm myself or RJ (tozovr)...


yeah...

[helimech]

If I get one I'll make a 1 X 9. So when is the frame going to be available and in what size are they gonna come in. Bullit i email FTW on some ? on my R9 and the simon bar but no reply. So by posting here hopefully i'll get some replys. Later.

[Psychic_Pimp]

RJ and FTW were both good on answering my email questions. Since Frank is a busy welder he will certianly take longer to read and respond to emails than most of us desk-jockeys who get to surf the forums all day.

Here's what RJ told me: They are gearing up to have the next bunch of Simon Bar frames ready some time in November. 25 frames total, all hand-made by Frank. There will be mediums and larges. The medium has a 23.6 TT, 16.8" CS length (depending on the drop outs selected), 17.19" Seat tube and a 12.75" BB height. Head tube angle is 72° and the seat tube angle is 72.75° and the bike is tailored around a 100-115mm fork.

Mind you, All of this info is subject to change or correction by those who actually know what they're talking about.

I can't wait until November so I'm working on prying the red frame from Bullitboyz' reluctant grasp. I can't afford some of the bling parts mounted on the other examples posted but I'll post pics of my build(s) anyway. I think I'll start it out as a 1x9 but we'll see where it goes from there.

[helimech]

Thanks, I know there busy but its been almost 2 weeks. Bruce replied and then I replied but no word back, no big deal.
I would like a simon bar in a large myself, we'll see in nov. later.

[BTF]

How about calling/emailing Sinister or me direct.

bruce@sinisterbikes.com
www.sinisterbikes.com

office 978 865 9911
fax 978 282 1693

[tozovr]

Thanks, I know there busy but its been almost 2 weeks. Bruce replied and then I replied but no word back, no big deal.
I would like a simon bar in a large myself, we'll see in nov. later.

Either hit Bruce and he can fwd it to me or hit me directly at 29er@sinisterbikes.com

You guys will LOVE these things!

[bcd]

man you have a great collection of bikes!

i want those pedals!!!! who makes them again?

how wide are those bars?

[RD3]

man you have a great collection of bikes!

i want those pedals!!!! who makes them again?

how wide are those bars?

Alex,
Dark Cycles makes the pedals
The bars are 660mm (26 inches) wide and have 11° bend to them. I spin them forward to give more rise. You would swear that you are not running a flat bar with these, they feel awesome.

[Psychic_Pimp]

Got the frame from Bullitboyz yesterday and, of course, had to start right into getting it set up.

RTS M29 fork with the stickers pulled off
King headset
On-One Mary bar
Oury ODI lock-on grips
36 spoke XT/DT/Rhyno Lite wheels
Avid BB& brakes
Thomson post
Specialized Avatar saddle
Truvativ crank is waiting for the bash-guard.

Can't wait to get the last few bits bolted on and give it a bit of bashing about.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/SimonSemiRF.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/SimonSemiL.jpg
Serial #1!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/SimonBB2.jpg

[RD3]

Looks nice in red! If you need any simon bar stickers like on my bike, pm me.

[MMcG]

Let us know how the RST fork works out on the Simon Bar - it looks good - certainly looks like it'll be a stiff fork. did you buy it direct from RST??

[BTF]

Got the frame from Bullitboyz yesterday and, of course, had to start right into getting it set up.

RTS M29 fork with the stickers pulled off
King headset
On-One Mary bar
Oury ODI lock-on grips
36 spoke XT/DT/Rhyno Lite wheels
Avid BB& brakes
Thomson post
Specialized Avatar saddle
Truvativ crank is waiting for the bash-guard.

Can't wait to get the last few bits bolted on and give it a bit of bashing about.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/SimonSemiRF.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/SimonSemiL.jpg
Serial #1!
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/SimonBB2.jpg

:clapping:Wow! looks great! Post up some pics and ride impressions on the Sinister forum.
http://www.sinisterbikes.com/sbforum/

[Psychic_Pimp]

Let us know how the RST fork works out on the Simon Bar - it looks good - certainly looks like it'll be a stiff fork. did you buy it direct from RST??

As far as I know, the only way to get the M29 at this point is direct from RST. So yes, I did indeed order it direct through their web site.

The RST M29 gives a very stable ride. Not twitchy at all. Not sluggish per se but when you hit roots and rocks you just lean back and blast right through. The Reba had fits in the same stuff, though admittedly it was a different frame, too. On a stretch that threw me on my head once and then steered me into a tree with the Reba, today I sailed right through.

Finally got it all together last night and took it for the first ride this afternoon. Nothing too radical, I just took it to a local park that has a network of single track with a few twisty spots and a few roots and logs to play on. Unfortunately, it also has its fair share or dog walkers so you can't really blast through the trails or you risk flattening a Fido or two.

Picture 1:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/Finito1.jpg

At this point I can only compare it to my ScandAl frame with the Reba but impressions so far; The frame is absolutely more rigid than the ScandAl. The M29 fork is absolutely more laterally rigid than the Reba. With a tad bit shorter wheelbase and the cockpit biased a bit towards the rear, it's a better trail machine on the lumpy stuff, easier to get the weight back and float over roots and logs.

As RJ noted elsewhere, the Mary bar ends up really tall on this frame. It feels like a choppa, baby! I think the tall bars take a bit of power away when climbing out of the saddle, too. I'll have to try flipping the stem to get it a bit lower but I like the sweep so it might be hard to give up the Mary. The ScandAl had a higher BB and a shorter head tube so the bars definitely are higher relative to the seat on this build.

Other side picture:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/Finito2.jpg

Since I'm a bit more of a smash and bash rider than a finesse rider, this setup seems to fit me pretty good so far.

This is the first time I've tried a 1x9 setup and I'm pleasantly surprised that I don't really miss the granny ring so far. Could have something to do with a couple thousand miles of bike commuting this last year, I suppose.

Last but not least, the most important message of the day:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a52/ItsForrest/Bikeys/AllWork.jpg

[MMcG]

Try tilting your Marys down a bit towards your bottom bracket/or rear hub. should help.

[Psychic_Pimp]

Try tilting your Marys down a bit towards your bottom bracket/or rear hub. should help.

Yeah, was already playing with that a bit. Just one of the things to dial in as I put more time on it. So far, I'm pretty happy with it, overall.

[tozovr]

Thanks, I know there busy but its been almost 2 weeks. Bruce replied and then I replied but no word back, no big deal.
I would like a simon bar in a large myself, we'll see in nov. later.


http://www.ridemonkey.com/mountain-bike-photos/data/500/14391SIMONGEO.JPG

Here you go!

RJ

[tozovr]

Yeah, was already playing with that a bit. Just one of the things to dial in as I put more time on it. So far, I'm pretty happy with it, overall.


What rear cassette are you running? 11-34?

How's the beast working out?

RJ

[Psychic_Pimp]

What rear cassette are you running? 11-34?

How's the beast working out?

RJ

Yeah, I'm running an 11-34 on it.
I haven't had a lot of time to take it to trails where I can really give it a workout. All my ride time this week has been commuting so the Cross Check has been getting the miles. This weekend I'm determined to get some time on it on trails that aren't so flat as the local park that I've been riding in so far.

I also need to get the fork dialed in and would like to try a setback post and shorter stem.

More after the weekend.

[TheMauler]

Yeah, I'm running an 11-34 on it.
I haven't had a lot of time to take it to trails where I can really give it a workout. All my ride time this week has been commuting so the Cross Check has been getting the miles. This weekend I'm determined to get some time on it on trails that aren't so flat as the local park that I've been riding in so far.

I also need to get the fork dialed in and would like to try a setback post and shorter stem.

More after the weekend.
nice cant wait

[Bullitboyz]

updated my Simon Bar Sinister:
new wheels, cranks, chainringz..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/bullitboyz/Simon%20Bar/DSCF3910.jpg
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Rennen cog.
just waiting on the Singlespeed drops... till then it's ghetto chain tensioner.



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/bullitboyz/Simon%20Bar/DSCF3905.jpg

ceramic coated 180mm XTR cranks with 34t spiderless chainring


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[MMcG]

where are the I9s?? ;)

[RD3]

Lookin hot! The classic XTRs are a nice touch.

[verticult]

sorry for the "no reply" on the email. some joker reported my email to the spambot army and I stopped using that @sinister acct. You can contact Sinister, RJ (tozover) or find my personal site. Contact your dealer and get 'em to pick up the line so you can get close to all the stuff.. OR you can go to Gloucester CX and see.. oops.. I did it again.. something new and sexy and oh so shaved and ready for mud and blood..

[Bullitboyz]

where are the I9s?? ;)


had these hubs kickin around so i put the I9 idea on hold.

spent the weekend thrashing the bike at Kingdom Trails and LOVE it.. really love it.

[Psychic_Pimp]

Took Simon Bar #1 out this weekend and just kicked around the city for a few hours. All told I put between 25 and 30 miles on it. Played around at the new Collonade Skills Park (http://bbtc.org/wiki/index.php?title=Trail:I-5_Colonnade#Trail_Description)for an hour or so. I'm gonna keep going back until I figure out why I have no problem with the left-hand switch backs but stall out on the right-handers. On this stuff, the Simon Bar made my my last two 29er frames; an XXIX+G and a ScandAl, feel rather flexy. Simon is nothing if not solid.

It hit me this afternoon that the bike Simon reminds me most, is my orange sting ray that I rode around when I was about 15 years old. (Damn! That was 30 years ago.) It doesn't cruise fast like my Cross-Check (duh) but the fun factor is way up there wherever you're riding. Roll some steps, wheelie-drop a bulkhead or two, every curb gets a bunny hop, and so on. Something tells me the Simon Bar will not suffer the same death of my old Murray Eliminator sting ray, however. Frank's gusseting and beefy welds should keep the head tube from letting go of the rest of the frame when rolling a few steps.

I think this is the funnest bike I've had in many years.

[helimech]

Psychic Pimp.
WOW that collonade place looks awesome, its a bummer that wasn't there when I lived in seattle. So its sounds like the simon bar can handle the hard stuff, thats great.
Just got done building up the rear wheel for my EMD. Can't wait to swap everything over to a simon bar in the future. Later.

[RD3]

I have a few hundred miles on the FTW Sinister Simon Bar now so I wrote up a small review of how it rides.

After every ride I've gone on with the Simon Bar covering different terrain and riding spots on the east coast, the bike impresses me more and more.

At first I wasn't sure if I would like how it was going to ride, being an aluminum hardtail (I like steel or ti for hardtails). But I was pleasantly surprised that frame does a good job of dampening the ride. Probably due in combination to the design of the seatstays, chainstays and the use of a machined 27.2 seattube that is sleeved down into a larger diameter tube. The frame is good at dampening the ride, but also provides a efficient pedaling platform, flex while standing and pedaling hard never once crossed my mind.

Another concern was how was the bike going to handle the downhills. Some 29ers that I've rode felt twitchy and unstable when at speed, the Simon Bar will have none of that. I found myself asking for more rocks and logs to fly over on the downhill sections of trail. The angles that the Simon Bar uses make the bike eat up downhills. I was happy to find the bike takes to the air easily, feeling very balanced in flight.

So is it as good on the climbs? Yes, once you find the right spot to distribute your weight over the bike, climb away. I found myself having an easier time with the climbs, especially rocky ones.

This may sound strange but the Simon Bar seemed to have better maneuverability than my 26" wheeled bikes on tight turns and technical rocky sections. Perhaps it was just rolling more efficiently over obstacles making it easier through the tight spots, I never had the feeling like these big wheels are getting in the way, like I have on other 29ers.

I can't really think of anything negative about the frame, maybe a full suspension version would be nice... FTW are you listening :)

I am already looking forward to the next ride on the Simon Bar... the east coast woods killin 29" machine that is handmade in a small shop in VT by a guy that might just know a thing or two about welding... :)

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/simon_bar_woods_1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/simon_bar_woods_2.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/simon_bar_woods_3.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/simon_bar_woods_5.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/simon_bar_woods_6.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/simon_bar_woods_7.jpg

Thanks Darrell for the awesome custom Sinister head badge.

[Bullitboyz]

i have to agree with Rob's review 100%.

i rode mine back to back with a friend's Niner and even WITHOUT mentioning the annoying creaking of his EBB, his bike was noticeably more flexy and vague... the SBS inspires all kinds of confidence and invites abuse. it's one of those frames where i know the bolted-on parts will fail me long before the frame will.

maybe i shouldn't have been so hasty to sell my spare frame: once i let my girlfriend take a spin on the Simon Bar, she wants to ditch her 26" Ti singlespeed and get a 29er!:poster_oops:

[MMcG]

She can be number one for the next batch D!

[Psychic_Pimp]

i have to agree with Rob's review 100%.

maybe i shouldn't have been so hasty to sell my spare frame: once i let my girlfriend take a spin on the Simon Bar, she wants to ditch her 26" Ti singlespeed and get a 29er!:poster_oops:

I for one am not sorry you sold your other frame. :monkeydance:

I agree with his review also, and it isn't only good on east coast trails, it rocks on this side of the rock, too.

[MMcG]

I felt like bumpin this thread up because that is one sick bike!

[RD3]

Here are a few photos from last weekend at Roaring Run in Apollo PA, everything is starting to get green. I have been running the Pace 29er fork for the last couple months, but I am looking forward to putting the Reba back on. The bike still makes me smile everytime I ride it.

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simonbar_apollo_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simonbar_apollo_2.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simonbar_apollo_3.jpg

[tozovr]

Rob, I'd say send up the Pace for some lovin, but I have a new Maxle-lite reba due in any day:)

[greenchris]

^^^
I really can't wait until I get my hands on one. I'm always pestering a friend of mine about when I'll have one. Need to get a front wheel built asap..

[RD3]

I picked up some Conti Mountain King 2.4 tires for the Simon Bar. I am very impressed with them so far. The rear has better traction when climbing than just about any other 29er tire I have tried. Cornering is also great, the knobs perched over the side of the casing let me push harder thru the corners.
There is plenty of clearence for the 2.4 rear tire, no worries of tire rub.
Both tires weighed in at 735-740g.

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simon_bar_mk_1.jpg
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http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simon_bar_mk_4.jpg

[MMcG]

I'm running a Mountain King in back and a Racing Ralph in front and agree the Mountain King kicks butt for a rear tire. May have to buy a second one to try out as a front as well. They are good tires indeed! :thumb:

[tozovr]

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg317/tozovr/DSC00401.jpg

[MMcG]

Get that thing built already!

[Jimmy_Pop]

sweet bike. amazing details.

[tozovr]

sweet bike. amazing details.


Hello my name is Jimmy Pop and I'm a dumb white guy,
I'm not old or new but middle school fifth grade like junior high,
I don't know mofo if y'all peeps be buggin' give props to my ho cause she all fly,
But I can take the heat cause I'm the other white meat known as 'Kid Funky Fried',
Yeah I'm hung like planet Pluto hard to see with the naked eye,
But if I crashed into Uranus I would stick it where the sun don't shine,
Cause I'm kind of like Han Solo always stroking my own wookie,
I'm the root of all that's evil yeah but you can call me cookie,
:biggrin:

[RD3]

Is that anti-radar black you are wearing?

[Bulldog]

The slope of the top tube might make the front end look higher than it is.

No I'm pretty sure it's the fact that the bars look to be about 4" above the seat! That's a sweet ride though. I don't think I'll ever do another aluminum hardtail for lots of seated offroad use, but man I wanted a Ridge for so long. FTW frames are so nice!

[On A Quest]

i want one...

[singletrack pig]

Does anybody know where I can pick up a Med Simon Bar? They're out of that size and the Lg is too big. Used is fine.

[MMcG]

Does anybody know where I can pick up a Med Simon Bar? They're out of that size and the Lg is too big. Used is fine.

Might be mighty hard to find a used one. I suspect those that have one, are enjoying the crap out of their Simon Bar so there won't be many on the used market. Especially since there aren't a ton of them even in existence yet.

But if I hear or see of something I'll let you know.

Best,

Mark

[singletrack pig]

Thanks Mark. I figured it was a long shot, but you never know...

[MMcG]

Thanks Mark. I figured it was a long shot, but you never know...


Yep. You might want to contact Bruce at Sinister or RJ (tozovr) to see when the next run of Simon Bar Sinisters will be as well.

Cheers,

Mark

[singletrack pig]

Sweet, FTW clued me in on the location of a Med and I'm close to pulling the trigger. Come on classifieds, help me sell my Ellsworth...

[MMcG]

Sweet, FTW clued me in on the location of a Med and I'm close to pulling the trigger. Come on classifieds, help me sell my Ellsworth...

SAWEET! Keep us posted!

[ByStickel]

Local bikes: thousands of miles fresher.

And thousands more expensive, but the kiddos can always do the G.I. Bill thing...

(was it me calling you smelly and uncouth that has caused this rift between us?)

[singletrack pig]

I'd snap up a Bystickel in a heartbeat if you were doing a "local discount" for $850!

Whatcha think of FTW's CS yoke and the overall geometry for Pisgah?

[RD3]

Here are the latest round of updates for the Simon Bar. I changed the rear tire from a Mountain King 2.4 to a Schwalbe Racing Ralph 2.4. The MK was a great tire off road, but the bike has been seeing more use on pavement in an effort to save gas. The rear 2.4 MK on pavement seemed like it was trying to claw its way into the road. I have 2.2 size MK on other bikes and it rolls much smoother on hard surfaces than its big brother. The Racing Ralph rolls almost effortlessly, gets good traction, is light weight, and has a big big air volume. The rear tire has more air volume now than the front, but the front has more what I would call tread volume, this makes the ride even more comfortable in the seat. I kept the MK on the front because it keeps me going the direction my front wheel is pointed. I put a Maxxis fly weight 26" 95g tube in the rear and usually air up to about 25 psi.
I decreased stem length from 90mm to 70mm and slid the seat back a little on the rails. Now the front end pulls up with little effort and the bike has a really sweet spot for manuals. I put the Dark Cycles Arachnid pedals 440g on the Hood and got a set of Wellgo MG-1s with titanium spindles, they are crazy light at 312g. The lock on grips are gone in favor of DMN cork grips, they are cheap and light, and make me want to ride without gloves as they feel really great.

http://home.comcast.net/~hood_mussel/sinister/sinister_simon_bar_808_1.jpg
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[MMcG]

I ran that RR in back and MK in front combo for a while too......it worked really well.

Sickest Simon Bar out there by far!!!

[mandown]

sickhouse fo-sho!