I've gone raw

[SkaredShtles]

Oh, but let's not forget the good raw stuff:

sashimi

carpaccio

tartare

mmmmmm.
What about lardo, godammit?!? It's the king of the raw meat. :thumb:

[SkaredShtles]

They have teh awesome raw lettuce there:busted:
They really should cook their lettuce, methinks. :D

[BMXman]

I also have to admit that there is a teryaki joint close by that makes a fried prawns/gyoza plate that I just cant resist. I had it for lunch yesterday and promptly got really sick and made several trips to the bathroom. Not hungry for it anymore...


lol you gave me a flashback of when I thought I would be "OK" if I ate a little prime rib after being vegetarian for a year...that was a horrible night....I moved all my stuff from the bedroom to the bathroom for the next 24 hrs:D

[BAH]

You really should just try living on the light. :clue: :D

Its all about progression. I haven't reached that level yet. I was close, but lunch yesterday knocked me off course.

[Westy]

Have you considered the Japanese Monk pine needle diet? You'll feel like crap but your corpse will look great in 1000 years.

[syadasti]

Have you considered the Japanese Monk pine needle diet? You'll feel like crap but your corpse will look great in 1000 years.

Pycnogenol FTW:huh:

[DRB]

Have you considered the Japanese Monk pine needle diet? You'll feel like crap but your corpse will look great in 1000 years.

I always wondered where monk jerky came from. I figured they just soaked it in gin.

[Toshi]

lol you gave me a flashback of when I thought I would be "OK" if I ate a little prime rib after being vegetarian for a year...that was a horrible night....I moved all my stuff from the bedroom to the bathroom for the next 24 hrs:D
it's like being deconditioned and sucking wind on a big climb. gotta eat the cooked foods and meats regularly to keep your gut in fine condition... :busted:

[Westy]

I always wondered where monk jerky came from. I figured they just soaked it in gin.


It is just a marketing ploy, it is not really from Monks. They just lure Chinese children into tubs of teriaki sauce with the promise of squid candy.

[DRB]

It is just a marketing ploy, it is not really from Monks. They just lure Chinese children into tubs of teriaki sauce with the promise of squid candy.

I swear to god if I look at Willow this afternoon and think about jerky, I'm kicking your a$$.

[BAH]

I swear to god if I look at Willow this afternoon and think about jerky, I'm kicking your a$$.

:rofl: it's good to have you back

[urbaindk]

I swear to god if I look at Willow this afternoon and think about jerky, I'm kicking your a$$.

Man, I look at my kid's fat little legs almost every day and think, with a little BBQ sauce and slow roasting, he'd probably taste pretty damn good.

[syadasti]

Man, I look at my kid's fat little legs almost every day and think, with a little BBQ sauce and slow roasting, he'd probably taste pretty damn good.

soylent green:drool:

[jonKranked]

baby back ribs.... made from real babies... dripping with sauce.... falling off the bone!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8a/Sealab_Sparks.png

[elRey]

The reason she started her journal is because people assume that the options are very limited, when actually you can make some pretty tasty things using all raw food.



Thats what I said about vegetarianism but all I ate was quesadillas and mac and cheese.

[Westy]

Man, I look at my kid's fat little legs almost every day and think, with a little BBQ sauce and slow roasting, he'd probably taste pretty damn good.

After reading this thread I would hope you would consider going raw.

[BAH]

Best thread ever. Question. How do you make the pizza dough? After that, what goes on it? I'm assuming not cheese. I'm wondering how you make a pizza with a dehydrator?

I wish I had a F'N pizza right now. Indonesian boiled brown rice with real salt and mrs. dash for lunch. I realized I killed it by heating it. But how the f*** are you supposed to eat rice without cooking it? I guess I have a lot to learn about this.

so far I've had. Banana, 7 prunes, tomato, apple, kashi granola bar, raw potato marinated in olive oil and balsamic vinegar :clapping: which was the worst thing I've ever eaten. 5 pepperoncinis and 4 olives. I got no veggies in my house at the moment. F'n starved :disgust:

Heres a shot of the crust. I'm not sure what the ingredients are/will be yet. I can tell you that the smell of this thing is wafting through the house and it smells just as good or better than any pizza crust I've ever had the chance to sniff. I know those white things are onions, but thats it

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/onion.jpg

[jonKranked]

looks mummified :D

[Toshi]

Heres a shot of the crust. I'm not sure what the ingredients are/will be yet. I can tell you that the smell of this thing is wafting through the house and it smells just as good or better than any pizza crust I've ever had the chance to sniff. I know those white things are onions, but thats it[/IMG]
could that possibly because your body is wasting away and desperately telling your brain to get more food of any sort? :pirate2:

[DRB]

could that possibly because your body is wasting away and desperately telling your brain to get more food of any sort? :pirate2:

diet coke post of the day :monkey:

[BAH]

could that possibly because your body is wasting away and desperately telling your brain to get more food of any sort? :pirate2:

If wasting away feels this good, then I'm all for it :happydance:

[BAH]

looks mummified :D

I think thats the basic idea of a dehydrator :shocked:

[DRB]

If wasting away feels this good, then I'm all for it :happydance:

welcome to the monkey nicole. Have you gone and seen Paris in prison?

[BAH]

welcome to the monkey nicole. Have you gone and seen Paris in prison?

First you get sensitive, then you get funny. I like what this raw diet is doing for you already:biggrin:

[jonKranked]

I think thats the basic idea of a dehydrator :shocked:

Oh I know that, might be a little unnerving the first time you eat something that looks like King Tut. :lighten:

[BAH]

Oh I know that, might be a little unnerving the first time you eat something that looks like King Tut. :lighten:

:rofl:

[binary visions]

I'm waiting for the thread where BAH got so desperate for meat that he put bacon wrapped scallops in the dehydrator :p

[Jeremy R]

I'm waiting for the thread where BAH got so desperate for meat that he put bacon wrapped scallops in the dehydrator :p

Then took a beatiful picture of it, and somehow worked his Subaru into the shot.

[BAH]

Then took a beatiful picture of it, and somehow worked his Subaru into the shot.

Oh yeah my subaru. It's been too nice around here to drive so it's just been sitting in the garage. You might see some down low glow in the background though....

[jonKranked]

Then took a beatiful picture of it, and somehow worked his Subaru into the shot.

no, he's going to carry it around on his extend-a-bike and dehydrate random things he encounters throughout his day... live squirrels, parking meters, very small pebbles, dirty hippies

[Serial Midget]

48 hours... need to find a natural foods store near here. :monkey:

[oly]

Heres a shot of the crust. I'm not sure what the ingredients are/will be yet. I can tell you that the smell of this thing is wafting through the house and it smells just as good or better than any pizza crust I've ever had the chance to sniff. I know those white things are onions, but thats it

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/onion.jpg

Sorry D but that looks like vomit....

[BAH]

48 hours... need to find a natural foods store near here. :monkey:

We go to the co-op. It's on the other side of the freeway from sizzler/car toys etc. I think its next to a ford dealership.. Be ready for serious hippy encounters in there :)

[BAH]

Sorry D but that looks like vomit....

No doubt, I'm hoping it tastes a little better. 10 more hours in there and its go time

[oly]

We go to the co-op. It's on the other side of the freeway from sizzler/car toys etc. I think its next to a ford dealership.. Be ready for serious hippy encounters in there :)

I think your talking about the porno shop.....

[Red Rabbit]

I think your talking about the porno shop.....

Well they do sell very "raw" things...

[jonKranked]

We go to the co-op. It's on the other side of the freeway from sizzler/car toys etc. I think its next to a ford dealership.. Be ready for serious hippy encounters in there :)

you're from the 60's aren't you? remember this? PEACE LOVE DOPE! NOW GET THE HELL OUT!

[DRB]

you're from the 60's aren't you? remember this? PEACE LOVE DOPE! NOW GET THE HELL OUT!

I think he might be Canadian.

[Westy]

you're from the 60's aren't you? remember this? PEACE LOVE DOPE! NOW GET THE HELL OUT!

I wonder if he can smoke is dope or does he have to just chew on the fresh buds?

[Knuckleslammer]

I don't understand the principle of a dehydrator?

Instead of cooking the dough, you basically take all the moisture out of the flour? Same with the onions?

Why no tomatos on there either? :disgust:

Derek, you need to get your wife on here to explain some ****

[jonKranked]

I don't understand the principle of a dehydrator?

apparently you do:

Instead of cooking the dough, you basically take all the moisture out of the flour? Same with the onions?

:busted:


This is one of those devices that does what its name is. It dehydrates things.

[Knuckleslammer]

What I meant to say was this. The principle is to remove moisture? Does the dough taste different than if you cooked it? Is the consistency the same?

I guess my question is not what the dehydrator does, I know it removes water, but what benefit is this?

I mean you can eat a raw tomato, or slice it and dehydrate it. By dehydrating it, your removing all the water/moisture. The oxidization process also would kill all the minerals / nutrients, no?

[DRB]

What I meant to say was this. The principle is to remove moisture? Does the dough taste different than if you cooked it? Is the consistency the same?

I guess my question is not what the dehydrator does, I know it removes water, but what benefit is this?

I mean you can eat a raw tomato, or slice it and dehydrate it. By dehydrating it, your removing all the water/moisture. The oxidization process also would kill all the minerals / nutrients, no?

Be very careful... you are questioning the RAW diet in a less than friendly tone. The RAW gods will not be pleased.

[splat]

I mean you can eat a raw tomato, or slice it and dehydrate it. By dehydrating it, your removing all the water/moisture. The oxidization process also would kill all the minerals / nutrients, no?


Good Point! How is Dehydrating different from Cooking from that standpoiunt ?

[syadasti]

The oxidization process also would kill all the minerals / nutrients, no?

They are hoping to save the enzymes as minerals and nutrients aren't alive. Anything that denatures proteins would screw up enzymes. No citrus juice seafood marinates allowed :disgust1:

[Knuckleslammer]

So heating denatures protein and screws up the enzymes?

Sorry, noob

[syadasti]

So heating denatures protein and screws up the enzymes?

Yeah thats what happens when you cook eggs, meat, cheese, etc...

Denaturation is the alteration of a protein shape through some form of external stress (for example, by applying heat, acid or alkali), in such a way that it will no longer be able to carry out its cellular function. Denatured proteins can exhibit a wide range of characteristics, from loss of solubility to communal aggregation.

[BAH]

I don't understand the principle of a dehydrator?

Instead of cooking the dough, you basically take all the moisture out of the flour? Same with the onions?

Why no tomatos on there either? :disgust:

Derek, you need to get your wife on here to explain some ****

Its not flour, but a mixture of raw ingredients. This is just the crust- tomatoes and other toppings will be going on when it is done.
I think it is mostly to take good ingredients that would not stick together normally and draw them together by sucking out the moisture so that they can be used as a crust/bread/quesadilla type thing. This way the crust is actually healthy instead of just calories.

[stevew]

There looks to be no chance of BBQ in that diet, therefore I must pass.

[Knuckleslammer]

Damn, I wish my wife was into this, instead of fu****g cheese pockets. All she eats is hot pockets and mac+cheese. When my daughter pops out in September, she's going to be a hot pocket:disgust1:

[Jeremy R]

When my daughter pops out in September, she's going to be a hot pocket:disgust1:

Well, keep her away from Westy.

[syadasti]

Well, keep her away from Westy.

That might be hard, the preservatives will increase her shelf life:busted:

[Knuckleslammer]

There is nothing more horrible than a hot pocket. Rubber ham, processes poor ass excuse for cheese. Next time you see one, look at the ingredient list.

[syadasti]

There is nothing more horrible than a hot pocket. Rubber ham, processes poor ass excuse for cheese. Next time you see one, look at the ingredient list.

But think of all the flavor "enhancers" for Westy :D

[TN]

Yeah thats what happens when you cook eggs, meat, cheese, etc...

OH SH!T!!! NOT communal aggregation!!!!!!

[I Are Baboon]

OH SH!T!!! NOT communal aggregation!!!!!!

Dude, communal aggregation is like the worst kind of aggregation.

[Westy]

But think of all the flavor "enhancers" for Westy :D

My bodies enzymes turn those chemicals into pure energy. I can actually tan from the inside and my farts spark like when you bite into a lifesaver.

[Serial Midget]

We go to the co-op. It's on the other side of the freeway from sizzler/car toys etc. I think its next to a ford dealership.. Be ready for serious hippy encounters in there :)

Uh yeah, I found it.

Why do natural food stores always have to be so dirty? I was looking for fresh tomato juice by the 1/2 gallon. I could not find any.

I also found a display of hippie perfumes and soaps - I didn't realize they smelled that way intentionally.

I weighed myself this morning at 185LBS, I've gained 20 LBS in 3 years. :plthumbsdown:

[Serial Midget]

I think your talking about the porno shop.....

Yeah... saw that too, seems a little less popular than the co-op. :shocked:

[DRB]

Yeah... saw that too, seems a little less popular than the co-op. :shocked:

Eating all that organic / RAW sh!t leaves you so undernourished it's amazing they can even walk around.

[Westy]

Uh yeah, I found it.

Why do natural food stores always have to be so dirty?


Hippie detritus.

[SkaredShtles]

<snip>

I weighed myself this morning at 185LBS, I've gained 20 LBS in 3 years. :plthumbsdown:
Good work, Fatty! :thumb:

[BAH]

Uh yeah, I found it.

Why do natural food stores always have to be so dirty? I was looking for fresh tomato juice by the 1/2 gallon. I could not find any.

I also found a display of hippie perfumes and soaps - I didn't realize they smelled that way intentionally.

I weighed myself this morning at 185LBS, I've gained 20 LBS in 3 years. :plthumbsdown:

Theres another pretty good one right next to south sound running, across the street from baskin robbins. It's a little more hygienic in there :)

[BAH]

Raw pizza was a success :D I don't like a lot of toppings she had available(mushrooms etc) so this was my slice She thought the crust was a bit too salty and is going to tone it down some next time. I thought it was just fine. The red sauce didn't taste any different than regular sauce and the cheesy sauce on top was extremely tasty. I filled up on half this piece.

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/pizza.jpg

[jdcamb]

What is the delivery method (crust) of your Pizza?

[BurlyShirley]

What is the delivery method (crust) of your Pizza?

Canteloupe Rinds.

[BAH]

What is the delivery method (crust) of your Pizza?

I'm not exactly sure. I know onions. I think flax and sunflower seeds are also in there. She'll be posting up the recipe either tonight or tomorrow.

[BAH]

This was Sara's piece

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/pizza3.jpg

My sister in law's

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/pizza7.jpg

[narlus]

you each had one piece of dehydrated onion cracker pizza?

[loco-gringo]

That pizza has robbed my soul's will to live. :dead:

[BMXman]

nothing but haters:plthumbsdown:....nice job Sara....D

[oly]

Looks like Saras piece got some treats from your local rat.... Is rap poop considered RAW??

[oly]

Yeah... saw that too, seems a little less popular than the co-op. :shocked:

Your supposed to "Park" in the "Rear".....

:eek:

[Silver]

Mark my words, you're going to end up killing your wife and grilling her in 6 months. And then we'll all be giving interviews about how you were such a nice guy...no one (except me, of course) could have seen it coming.

I assume she'll taste like pork...from what I've read that what we approximate.

[BAH]

nothing but haters:plthumbsdown:....nice job Sara....D

she says thanks - you're a gentleman among.. well...... :D

It was actually quite tasty. The crust was not cracker like at all, but soft and pliable. Tasted onion/garlicky.

Narlus- yes that's all we had. I think when you're body is getting the nutrients it needs, it doesn't require that you eat 4 platefuls of food. It was very filling and tasty.

I do appreciate all the good links and info. I did learn some stuff here - mostly that we will be steaming some things. This thread has pretty much degenerated from anything useful though, so I'm out:busted:

[Serial Midget]

Hmmm... everything I'm eating is thrown into the food processor and turned into a smoothie or eaten salad form. Those pizzas look good but also like a ton of work.

I am finding the same thing about quantity - it really doesn't take that much to fill up but I do get hungry faster.

[DRB]

Where's the pizza? I think you linked the wrong photos.

[Skookum]

This thread has pretty much degenerated from anything useful though, so I'm out:busted:
Oh stop being a chicken, and stand up to the haters.

mmmm chicken....:drool: :homer:

http://www.fulfillyourobligations.com/Data/images/j0215522.gif

[BAH]

Oh stop being a chicken, and stand up to the haters.

mmmm chicken....:drool: :homer:

http://www.fulfillyourobligations.com/Data/images/j0215522.gif

haha, I'm sticking to my guns. I'll take feeling really healthy and having lots of energy over taking some ribbing on the nette any day:busted:

I know that a lot of the anti-raw in this thread has been joking, but it's always funny to me how resistant people are to new ideas/change/something different etc. I'm always willing to try something new as long as it's not something that is obviously detrimental to either my pocketbook or health and it makes life a little more interesting and enjoyable, even if whatever is tried doesn't stick. It's not like I'm on here saying that you need to give up your firstborn or send me 40 percent of your paycheck(although this isn't a bad idea) for healthier living.
Why not try incorporating more raw foods in your diet? At the very worst you will skip a few meals of stuff you've eaten all your life and can continue to eat all your life if it does nothing for you. At best it will cure all your ailments, bring back your hair and add 50 years to your life:busted:
If your current diet gives you plenty of energy and you feel good, then don't bother, but if it doesn't why not give it a try?:lighten:
I'm usually totally wiped out after a wedding and go straight to bed, but I shot a 6 hour wedding Saturday, came home and spent the evening cruising around the neighborhood on our skateboards with my wife.
It's improved my quality of life in many ways already and I'm gonna stick with it until I see or feel otherwise:happydance:

[Nobody]

Official Personal Statement

I resist the 'meat is murder' movement with a passion. I have had many many arguments with people over 'agendas'.

However, if ANYONE wants to eat a certain way for health and pleasure benefits - KUDOS!!

I know I've come across differently on different occaisons, but in this 'statement' i'm just saying:

Eat Well, Be Healthy!

Yes, we should ALL eat less processed foods - which entails more RAW and more ORGANIC and more FRESH foods.

In my world, I still cook. I still eat animal proteins. There's some leather in my shoes.

But I'm very careful of who and what i consume.

People don't need to eat as much stuff as they do - and there are simple ways to improve flavors and increase diversity in tastes.

Try it, like it, hate it, move on.

Unofficially:

I'd like to see this moved to the Food forum later, for reference.

Toodles!

[MikeD]

Nobody: A-freaking-men.

Derek,

Has your wife been tested for Celiac's disease? (gluten intolerance) Her symptoms sound sort of Celiac (or other similar bodily intolerances) and I'm wondering if the raw diet, among other things, may have removed the aggravating factor from the diet... (I'm guessing you don't eat much bread or other wheat now?)

Best of luck...personally, I don't see why there need to be any absolute dietary rules, and I try to eat lots of raw veggies and avoid as much processed food as possible. (Plus, I like my meat as bloody, rare, or even raw as possible...)

Unfortunately, my job and lifestyle sometimes dictate my diet to me, but when I'm on my own dime and time, I try to be both moderate and thoughtful in what I prepare and eat.

Glad you're feeling so good!

[binary visions]

I'll leave it up to Derek if he wants the thread moved, but if he does I'd be happy to send it to Beer & Food.

[BAH]

Nobody: A-freaking-men.

Derek,

Has your wife been tested for Celiac's disease? (gluten intolerance) Her symptoms sound sort of Celiac (or other similar bodily intolerances) and I'm wondering if the raw diet, among other things, may have removed the aggravating factor from the diet... (I'm guessing you don't eat much bread or other wheat now?)

Best of luck...personally, I don't see why there need to be any absolute dietary rules, and I try to eat lots of raw veggies and avoid as much processed food as possible. (Plus, I like my meat as bloody, rare, or even raw as possible...)

Unfortunately, my job and lifestyle sometimes dictate my diet to me, but when I'm on my own dime and time, I try to be both moderate and thoughtful in what I prepare and eat.

Glad you're feeling so good!

She's been tested for just about everything under the sun, I'll ask her about it.

I'm in agreement with every thing you just posted. This just seems to be working well for us right now. We aren't animal cruelty crusaders/eastern religous zealots or anything else too off the wall. I shot a Hawaiian themed wedding this weekend - they had all kinds of barbecued meats there and I had my fill. It was a nice change, but I don't feel like I need/have to have it anymore and I like that.

I don't have any problems with it being moved :)

[binary visions]

I stuck this in hopes that you'd continue to update with new foods/recipes :thumb:

[SkaredShtles]

I had roasted orange & yellow peppers on a quesadilla tonight. I was a little bit sad thinking you wouldn't be eating roasted peppers any more. :(

:D

[-dustin]

23 pages? seriously?

[Konabumm]

23 pages of RAW and I'm thinking about trying it - My goal is 3 weeks

[I Are Baboon]

It's only nine pages, ya freakin n00bs. :rolleyes:

[Westy]

It's only nine pages, ya freakin n00bs. :rolleyes:


Pffft, 17 pages.

[Nobody]

Just to get this straight, and I'm not asking this to be a pain, but what about Sashimi, etc?

I'm just curious, my bias would be to at least try it [in the context of the rest of the diet, etc...]

[narlus]

Pffft, 17 pages.

9.

adjust yr settings.

[Nobody]

yeah, 9 for me, too.

but I use an Intel Mac, so you know what that means....

[syadasti]

I bet you could make some interesting food with a freeze drier. A lot crispier than regular dehydrator but expensive...

[Serial Midget]

I will be 7 days tomorrow. I have only lost 1.5 lbs but I do feel better - no post lunch sluggishness. What I like is the convenience, I don't really care about presentation - I take whatever I am going to eat and throw in the food processor. I've made some great all vegetable smoothies that fill me up for hours but have less than 300 calories.

Today or tomorrow I am going to eat some salmon, the only cooked food in this last week.

[MikeD]

Salmon tastes a heck of a lot better raw.

[BAH]

Just to get this straight, and I'm not asking this to be a pain, but what about Sashimi, etc?

I'm just curious, my bias would be to at least try it [in the context of the rest of the diet, etc...]

I'm not exactly sure what sashimi is?? If it's anything like sushi, I'm not a big fan..

[BAH]

I had roasted orange & yellow peppers on a quesadilla tonight. I was a little bit sad thinking you wouldn't be eating roasted peppers any more. :(

:D

My wife came up with an awesome cheesy flavored dip. No cheese of course, but all the ingredients mixed together make an unbelievably good dip. I dip everything in it now- celery,carrots,cauliflower,broccoli etc etc. It fills you up fast too, which is a pity because it's hard to stop eating it. I'll get a recipe up soon.

[BAH]

I will be 7 days tomorrow. I have only lost 1.5 lbs but I do feel better - no post lunch sluggishness. What I like is the convenience, I don't really care about presentation - I take whatever I am going to eat and throw in the food processor. I've made some great all vegetable smoothies that fill me up for hours but have less than 300 calories.

Today or tomorrow I am going to eat some salmon, the only cooked food in this last week.

I'll get the dip recipe up for you- it's pretty fantastic. I think about a pound a week is supposed to be healthy weight loss so you are on the right track? :)

[BAH]

Rich cheddar sauce

1/2 large red bell pepper
3/4 cup water
1 cup raw cashew butter(turns out the majority of raw cashews in the stores aren't truly raw-they've been steamed. A little nitpicky, but good to know if you really want to be raw) you can also use 1 cup of
sunflower seeds or almonds.(best to soak for a few hours before to get the most nutritional value)
1Tablespoon Tahini
2Tablespoons nutritional yeast(most important ingredient)
1 1/2 teaspoon sea salt
2 teaspoons onion powder(or a small slice of onion or 1 tablespoon or so of green onions)
1 clove garlic
2Tablespoons lemon juice.

Blend until creamy. Add more water if it is too thick.


double the recipe to have dipping sauce all week. Somebody try this and let me know what you think.

[Knuckleslammer]

I've been semi raw for several days now. It's not easy making stuff, that's for sure, because I have no idea what I'm doing. I made a tabbouleh type ground up blender mix of kale, spinach, carrots, peppers, onions, tomatoes, and a bunch of other stuff for lunch all week. Put ground flax and wheat germ in this as well. Olive oil, cayenne pepper, and balsamic vinegar to make it taste good. I put too much kale in it and it's disgusting, but I'm still eating it.

I also bring a banana, tomato, prunes, dates, kashi pumpkin spice flax granone bars, organic apple sause, straight oatmeal, peach, prunes, almonds, pumpkin seeds and walnuts to work as well as a couple apples and 3 o2 deprived ball jars of fresh made organic carrot juice. I'm drinking 2tbsp of quality refrigerated flax oil as well.

When I got home, I ate a piece of grilled sirloin tip, and I didn't even enjoy it really. So after that I blended 2tbsp raw honey, ice, little water, 4 gigantic strawberries, banana, kiwi in the blender and made a bad ass smoothie.

This ain't a diet folks, this is for life. There is a fascinating article on a Dr. Kelley (google it) about metabolic medicine and why we as Americans are consuming far too much protein at the wrong times of the day. Basically our pancreas produces 3 enzymes that digest protein. When we are eating bacon for breakfast, meat for lunch, meat for dinner, it taxes this organ and it never gets a chance to keep up with all the protein. I don't want this to get into a medical argument as many people on here seem brainwashed by big pharma and their doctors. However the patients results from Dr. Kelley speak for themselves. Modern medicine treats symptoms. This is about treating the body and the 188 page free book on the site describes in detail the metabolic processes of the body and why a raw diet is essential to health.

Kevin

[Westy]

I'm not exactly sure what sashimi is?? If it's anything like sushi, I'm not a big fan..


Think slabs of raw fish. Traditionally served with rice that you could skip for the raw thing.

I loves me some sashimi.

[Knuckleslammer]

Anybody ever buy kelp @ the supermarket? Kelp is sea weed basically right? Sushi is wrapped in kelp right?

[syadasti]

Anybody ever buy kelp @ the supermarket? Kelp is sea weed basically right? Sushi is wrapped in kelp right?

Nori (what they wrap sushi in) is toasted seaweed - not raw.

Also Kashi pumpkin spice flax granola bars and oatmeal (most forms you can buy anyways) are not raw either...

[DRB]

Nori (what they wrap sushi in) is toasted seaweed - not raw.

Also Kashi pumpkin spice flax granola bars and oatmeal (most forms you can buy anyways) are not raw either...

Knuck, you apparently suck at the RAW diet.

[SkaredShtles]

It sounds to me like Bah is the only one doing this raw diet in such a way that it might actually be palatable. The rest of you with your kale smoothies... :disgust1:

[BAH]

It sounds to me like Bah is the only one doing this raw diet in such a way that it might actually be palatable. The rest of you with your kale smoothies... :disgust1:

haha kale is just an ingredient, and if you do it right, you get the good stuff from it without having to taste.

My breakfast this am

No bake lemon "cookies" and blueberry/kiwi/strawberry/kale/cabbage smoothie. So tasty and filling. I didn't think to take a photo before I started drinking - sorry about the messy looking presentation

I'll get the recipe up of the cookies as soon as I'm privy to it.

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/lemon.jpg

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/lemon2.jpg

[DRB]

cabbage smoothie.... seriously did you hit your head on something hard?

Too bad the Photographers league of America isn't instituting a concussion policy like the NFL.

The lemon thingys though look good.

[SkaredShtles]

Holy $hit does that drink look like crap. I'll take a milkshake any day over that. :disgust1:

[BAH]

for two guys really not into it, you sure follow this thread around:busted:

You're missing the whole point. It doesn't TASTE like cabbage etc, but you get the benefits from it.

Stick to your milkshake by all means. fatty :D

[narlus]

that drink looks like it could use a healthy dose of algaecide.

[BAH]

that drink looks like it could use a healthy dose of algaecide.

I'll have to check with Sara, but I think this may offset the health benefit.

[SkaredShtles]

for two guys really not into it, you sure follow this thread around:busted:

You're missing the whole point. It doesn't TASTE like cabbage etc, but you get the benefits from it.
You're deluding yourself. I'd blame the food. :p

Stick to your milkshake by all means. fatty :D
Mmmm...... milkshakes....... :drool:

I'm too skinny as it is. I'd waste away to a shadow on that diet.

Bring on the rare grilled ribeye!

[Jeremy R]

I do not want to prolong my life if it includes drinking butt pee.

[DRB]

I do not want to prolong my life if it includes drinking butt pee.

I'm laughing so hard I think I broke a kidney.

[binary visions]

I'm laughing so hard I think I broke a kidney.

I'm crying a little bit... I need to stop laughing before my boss comes downstairs to figure out what's going on - I'm not sure I can explain "butt pee" to her.

[BAH]

I do not want to prolong my life if it includes drinking butt pee.

I admit it, I laughed:busted:

[Jr_Bullit]

I added a quinoa salad to our repertoire of tastyness - are you allowed to boil quinoa? If not, I hear you can turn it into a tasty sprouted grain as well, or eat it raw in cereals and such. I cooked ours - but then - my salad was a side to grilled pork :).

Have you started following Freegan movement yet? (A bit extreme for my taste, but I did it in college!)

[MikeD]

We eat quinoa all the time, b/c Steph is a Celiac. Boiled with lemon juice, pine nuts, and broccoli. Quinoa flour pasta is also really good if you can't eat real pasta.

[BAH]

I added a quinoa salad to our repertoire of tastyness - are you allowed to boil quinoa? If not, I hear you can turn it into a tasty sprouted grain as well, or eat it raw in cereals and such. I cooked ours - but then - my salad was a side to grilled pork :).

Have you started following Freegan movement yet? (A bit extreme for my taste, but I did it in college!)

Not sure what freegan movement is?

[DRB]

Not sure what freegan movement is?

Just think dumpster diving.....

[BAH]

haha I just googled it. Nope that's not us.

As I've said before, we aren't on any kind of radical crusade or trying to convert anyone to anything. Do your own thing if it makes you happy, give you peace, gets you healthy etc etc

We are just attempting to eat better and make eating better a little tastier thats all. It doesn't bother me in the least what anyone else does/cooks/eats.

Feel free to ignore, scoff, dance around a fire hydrant if thats what floats your boat. Heaven forbid anyone trying something new or different from their current way of thinking :busted:

[Jr_Bullit]

I wasn't making fun - it was an honest question, the whole freegan thing. I like the idea of simplifying life, reducing consumerism and waste as much as possible - and that includes what goes into your system as well. When you live on the road with everything you own packed into an astro, it's amazing what you learn to live without. :)

I was a vegetarian for years...then I added fish...and eventually everything else because I was diagnosed anemic - who would have guessed I had inherited the inability to store iron, and consistently have low vitamin B levels on all counts. So - going meatless is not an option (and I take as few pills as possible).

Anywho - if you're into tasty quinoa - check out the salad we experimented with last night. The aroma is mouthwatering, and the flavors are fantastic. And - it's 100% raw (except the quinoa which I boiled with salt and raisins):

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Tomato-Mint-Quinoa-Salad/Detail.aspx

[DRB]

I wasn't making fun - it was an honest question, the whole freegan thing. I like the idea of simplifying life, reducing consumerism and waste as much as possible - and that includes what goes into your system as well. When you live on the road with everything you own packed into an astro, it's amazing what you learn to live without. :)

I was a vegetarian for years...then I added fish...and eventually everything else because I was diagnosed anemic - who would have guessed I had inherited the inability to store iron, and consistently have low vitamin B levels on all counts. So - going meatless is not an option (and I take as few pills as possible).

Anywho - if you're into tasty quinoa - check out the salad we experimented with last night. The aroma is mouthwatering, and the flavors are fantastic. And - it's 100% raw (except the quinoa which I boiled with salt and raisins):

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Tomato-Mint-Quinoa-Salad/Detail.aspx

BAH is mean like that. He's been cranky since he's been on the "crack pot" diet of his.

did you make the recipe as is or did you modify it at all?

[Jr_Bullit]

I made the recipe exactly like it says on allrecipes (granted I tend to just grab handfuls of mint from the garden and say "I think that's about a 1/4 cup")...It was a bit risky - I would never think to put a teaspoon of cumin in a salad, along with raisins (i'm very anti-fruit-salad)...
My huneybuns always thinks I'm cracked when I throw new weird food at him like this (he's been moaning about his 'new aged' lunch today of wheat tortillas rolled up instead of a sandwich, and this salad) - but he licked his plate clean last night and said the salad was good, if funny looking.
It went REally well with pork chops! :)

[BMXman]

Not sure what freegan movement is?


I don't think it will stand the test of time...D

[Nobody]

I don't think it will stand the test of time...D

A friend of mine from wayyyyyy back is sort of on that line - hippie commune in the mountains of BC near Lilooet...

Thing is, and this is my MBA talking, they're trying to minimize their resource footprint [which is good] but provide little to nothing to compensate for, oh, say, medical attention [his wife gave birth in a hospital, not in a field, for instance].

We don't have many useful conversations...

Now, back to food:

Sashimi is the raw fish part that's been turned into Sushi. If you're not into it, fine and dandy.

There's still Beef Tartare and Lamb Tenderloin Tartare [which I've had in Vancouver - ask Jr_Bullit if you don't believe me!] and some similar stuff.

I'm not pushing any 'meat agenda' btw - i was curious if someone on this diet could properly metabolize the complex proteins involved.

Back to the 'ceviche' idea, btw - what about acid curing? Any discussion on that?

Fact is, I'd be happy to create a sub-chapter on the whole concept in my cookbook.

Same with gluten-free and similar dietary restrictions.

:cupidarrow:

[MikeD]

Back to the 'ceviche' idea, btw - what about acid curing? Any discussion on that?

It's not heat specifically that Raws don't like, it's the denaturing of the proteins, no?

Doesn't the acid curing cause the same thing as heat...?

[Nobody]

It's not heat specifically that Raws don't like, it's the denaturing of the proteins, no?

Doesn't the acid curing cause the same thing as heat...?

ah, right. forgot that part.

[OGRipper]

Sashimi is raw fish, unadorned except some garnish. Sushi is an american word that technically refers to the three main categories that use rice: Nigiri (individual pieces on rice), maki (rolls with seaweed (nori)), and chirashi (a bed of rice topped with mixed sashimi).

"Sushi" doesn't really include sashimi, although it's commonly used to refer to the entire type of cuisine. Which is good, because saying "I'm going to a Sushi and Sashimi place" would be a pain in the butt.

A raw eater could eat sashimi but the cooked rice in sushi probably makes it off-limits.

Man I love that stuff.

[BMXman]

ok Derek it's time to get involved with Kombucha...we just finished another batch today....umm raw goodness...there are tons of recipes on the net and it's has many health benefits...D

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/bm/bmxman817/organickombucha.JPG

[BMXman]

I asked my raw buddy about meat and he says he doesn't eat it as much as before he went raw...but he does eat just about any meat raw. He either slices it paper thin or dehydrates it...D

[DRB]

ok Derek it's time to get involved with Kombucha...we just finished another batch today....umm raw goodness...there are tons of recipes on the net and it's has many health benefits...D

http://imagehost.vendio.com/preview/bm/bmxman817/kombucha.JPG

talk about butt pee...

[Jr_Bullit]

So - hypothetical question, as we live in a modern, consumer-based society where food is readily available all year...

But what do you raw folks do when winter comes? I mean, not everyone lives in a bounteous southern region where it's warm year round and food grows year round.
Can you eat pickled foods?
What about smoked? or Salted?

In general - what's the rules when it comes to preservatives. Example: Apples - they're stored carefully in climate controlled rooms full of (I believe) nitrogen, in order to make them last the full year until the next season comes around. I'm sure they're not the only fruit or vegetable subject to said preserving treatment.
Do you go fully organic, and take what's available?
In the end, is it a cost-effective diet? I ask that, in relation to stories you read about people in poorer towns, historically from poverty and happily staying in poverty on the dole, who have massive waistlines and live on chips and cheap preserved inorganic nasty chemical compound style food.

:) Just trying to further the discussion - it's really quite interesting.

[BAH]

[QUOTE=BMXman;2581986]ok Derek it's time to get involved with Kombucha...we just finished another batch today....umm raw goodness...there are tons of recipes on the net and it's has many health benefits...D


Sara says this is really good for you, but it's pretty strong tasting for her. I might check it out. Do you like the taste?

The house smelled really good when I came home from bike riding with my nephew. I opened the dehydrator and found this. My first thought was of my neighbor's dog :busted: I'll report on the taste tomorrow.

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/dp.jpg

[BAH]

So - hypothetical question, as we live in a modern, consumer-based society where food is readily available all year...

But what do you raw folks do when winter comes? I mean, not everyone lives in a bounteous southern region where it's warm year round and food grows year round.
Can you eat pickled foods?
What about smoked? or Salted?

In general - what's the rules when it comes to preservatives. Example: Apples - they're stored carefully in climate controlled rooms full of (I believe) nitrogen, in order to make them last the full year until the next season comes around. I'm sure they're not the only fruit or vegetable subject to said preserving treatment.
Do you go fully organic, and take what's available?
In the end, is it a cost-effective diet? I ask that, in relation to stories you read about people in poorer towns, historically from poverty and happily staying in poverty on the dole, who have massive waistlines and live on chips and cheap preserved inorganic nasty chemical compound style food.

:) Just trying to further the discussion - it's really quite interesting.

Interesting questions, I don't really know- I'll ask Sara about it. Her stance on things so far has been to try to get as fresh and organic as possible, but if circumstances prevent occasionally, she doesn't lose any sleep about it.
I hope it didn't sound like I was jumping on you earlier, I was just explaining my position again for anyone who didn't feel like reading this whole post. I welcome discussion and sharing of ideas. Just don't ever tell me I'm wrong about anything:biggrin:

[Knuckleslammer]

Knuck, you apparently suck at the RAW diet.


JHFC, the oatmeal I buy is cooked too? WTF? I guess there's hardly anything left for me to eat. I bought like $80 worth of veggies last night and made a food processed mush. Drank a glass of it :plthumbsdown:

It appears that this is just about a full time job if your going to try to make something that actually tastes good

[binary visions]

I bought like $80 worth of veggies last night and made a food processed mush. Drank a glass of it :plthumbsdown:

It appears that this is just about a full time job if your going to try to make something that actually tastes good

You threw a bunch of veggies in a food processor and drank it, then deduced that your only other option was to make a full time job out of it?

When you were eating normal people food, did that consist of instant mashed potatoes, minute rice, and anything else that could be cooked and ready to eat in less than 10 minutes?

[JRogers]

So - hypothetical question, as we live in a modern, consumer-based society where food is readily available all year...

But what do you raw folks do when winter comes? I mean, not everyone lives in a bounteous southern region where it's warm year round and food grows year round.
Can you eat pickled foods?
What about smoked? or Salted?

In general - what's the rules when it comes to preservatives. Example: Apples - they're stored carefully in climate controlled rooms full of (I believe) nitrogen, in order to make them last the full year until the next season comes around. I'm sure they're not the only fruit or vegetable subject to said preserving treatment.
Do you go fully organic, and take what's available?
In the end, is it a cost-effective diet? I ask that, in relation to stories you read about people in poorer towns, historically from poverty and happily staying in poverty on the dole, who have massive waistlines and live on chips and cheap preserved inorganic nasty chemical compound style food.

:) Just trying to further the discussion - it's really quite interesting.

Interesting comments. I don't really have any answers, but I heard an interview with the authors of this: http://www.amazon.com/Plenty-Woman-Raucous-Eating-Locally/dp/030734732X

Seems pretty decent. Basically, a husband and wife decide to eat only what is physically produced within a 100 mile radius of their home for one year. Pretty difficult for anyone, probably, and they live in Vancouver. Might provide some answers.

As to the second point, I would bet that it is not a cost effective diet. Raw foods and means, generally, fresh foods. That means quick transport and, often, few preservation techniques that work particularly well. That's just my feeling, though. It probably depends on what you're eating. As a side note, I remember reading an article in the NYTimes Magazine a few weeks back about the food/nutrition industry. The author pointed out a lot of facts, stats, problems, etc. His one bit of advice was to "eat more food and less products." Interesting and a good way to put it, I thought.

[Knuckleslammer]

What I meant was Derek's wife is into this, and therefore does all the work :biggrin: I'm a lazy prick.

My main problem is I need a book and I need some equipment to do this properly. It's time consuming no?

[Jr_Bullit]

:) I read that same article. Prompted me to go to Amazon and buy the book about it. It essentially encompasses my worldview when it comes to food.

Example, I refuse to buy any packaged product if a five year old couldn't identify what it's made out of if you read the ingredients list aloud. Granted...when I want to buy something new, it means I spend an hour and a half shopping and reading every label...but I feel better about it in the end. :)

[BAH]

talk about butt pee...

I just noticed your new title. :biggrin:

[DRB]

I just noticed your new title. :biggrin:

You take video of a dog crapping in your yard and I get the custom title.... figures.

[BAH]

JHFC, the oatmeal I buy is cooked too? WTF? I guess there's hardly anything left for me to eat. I bought like $80 worth of veggies last night and made a food processed mush. Drank a glass of it :plthumbsdown:

It appears that this is just about a full time job if your going to try to make something that actually tastes good

Sara is going to put a bunch of links up on her site that she frequents whenever she gets around to updating. She spends less time in the kitchen than she used to actually. It did take a little time/research at first for her but once you get the basics down, it's actually pretty quick and easy. It's gotta take less time- you aren't cooking anything :D

[SkaredShtles]

Sara is going to put a bunch of links up on her site that she frequents whenever she gets around to updating. She spends less time in the kitchen than she used to actually. It did take a little time/research at first for her but once you get the basics down, it's actually pretty quick and easy. It's gotta take less time- you aren't cooking anything :D
You gotta understand - Knuck's used to eating Hot Pockets for dinner. :plthumbsdown:

[SkaredShtles]

JHFC, the oatmeal I buy is cooked too? WTF?
WTF kind of oatmeal to you buy? :confused:

[Knuckleslammer]

I buy straight quaker oat meal. No **** in it.

Ingredients : OATS

That's cooked? I don't even heat it. I've been eating it for 3 years for breakfast with fruit in cold water :rant:

[SkaredShtles]

I buy straight quaker oat meal. No **** in it.

Ingredients : OATS

That's cooked? I don't even heat it. I've been eating it for 3 years for breakfast with fruit in cold water :rant:
You were the one that said your oatmeal was cooked. Sounds raw to me... :think:

[Knuckleslammer]

I want to make this. Looks good.
http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/food.jpg

Questions on some of the ingredients.

Mix in food processor:
1 C almonds
1/2 C sunflower seeds
1 t tumeric
1/2 C water
1/4 t sea salt

stir in:
1/4 C cilantro
1/2 C diced tomatoes
2 T scallions
scoop on top of spinach leaves w/
Pinch of black pepper.

Is tumeric a common spice, and is cilantro something you can get at any supermarket?

With the nuts, do you soak them in water overnight before putting them in a food processor? I bought a whole bunch of crap tonight, some brags amino acids (fancy name for soy sauce :rant: ) some almond butter (probably cooked :crazy: but it's organic :thumb: ) some spinach, coconut oil, some pine nuts :biggrin: some more wheat germ, flax oil, ground flax seeds, walnuts, almonds, real salt (BEST F'N SALT IN THE WORLD) some purple cabbage, organic tomatoes, dates (never had one, these things rule - a sugar fruit - whooda thought) some B-12 so I don't become deficient :bonk: some sea kelp
in a bag dried up :plthumbsdown: some spinach some other spices carrots, pears, apples, bananas, strawberries, kiwis, onions , peppers.

one fiddy dolla :( and that's not even the shopping wife will do this weekend. I figure I'll keep buying sh*t till I have enough crap to actually make something that tastes good.

Made another smoothie with strawberries, banana, kiwi, 2tbsp raw hone and 1tbsp coconut oil and ice in a blender. Frign awesome. My back was killin me all day from being in the car. Had pizza for lunch at a friends house for lunch and afternoon, another 2 hours in car to pick up my daughter. My back was TOAST when I got home and I felt like I was really going to pass out. Made a spinach, carrot and tomato drink in the blender and 15 minutes later I was like brand new. I'm liking this raw diet lots. My back literally went from total ache, I'm talking ready to go to the ER ache to brand new in like 15 minutes, I sh*t you not.

Thanks for this post Derek. I've been thinking vegetarian for a long time. Your post got me to doing some research on people that have been cured from diabetes, cancer and others who have quit smoking after numerous failed attempts by doing juice fasts which helped them quit by cleaning the body quicker.

This is my goal, quit smoking, no more ultram for my back and no more cooked crap after vacation in July which I will consume lots of garbage for the last time in my life. I'm 36 and I'm tired of feeling like sh*t.

I can vouch for the real benefit of this stuff. Although still a smoker and a carnivore, 3 years of organic home made carrot juice 3x a week (4 8oz. glasses a day) and I have not been sick for 3 years until a few months ago when I hadn't made any carrot juice for a month or so. This stuff works. Thanks Derek, reading the stuff I have over the past couple weeks has had a dramatic impact on what I believe about this raw life, not diet.

Kevin

[BMXman]

Sara says this is really good for you, but it's pretty strong tasting for her. I might check it out. Do you like the taste?


I like it alot and if you buy it you can get it in many flavors. Maybe you should buy a bottle and see if you like it first before trying to make it...D

www.gtskombucha.com

[BMXman]

Is tumeric a common spice,yes and is cilantro something you can get at any supermarket?yes

With the nuts, do you soak them in water overnight before putting them in a food processor?it's a good idea


looks like you're really getting into it Knuck...D

[narlus]

I like it alot and if you buy it you can get it in many flavors. Maybe you should buy a bottle and see if you like it first before trying to make it...D

www.gtskombucha.com

looks delicious:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Kombucha_jar.jpg/529px-Kombucha_jar.jpg

[Knuckleslammer]

Ok, I've seen several threads of the concoction in the bottle. Spill it, what the hell is it? Cider vinegar? Donkey piss?

I'm going to attempt to make that yellow stuff in the photo tomorrow. Today I made my own pesto with undead basil. Damn good stuff. I made a wrap with

1. tortilla wrap (ILLEGAL :shocked: )
2. Vine Tomatoes (LEGAL)
3. Romaine lettuce (LEGAL)
4. Roasted peppers (ILLEGAL)
5. Buffalo cheese (VERY ILLEGAL :shocked: :shocked: )
6. Pesto mixed with mayo ( CALL IN THE ARMY) LOL

I'm not 100% raw yet, but after vacation I'm starting out with a 10 - 20 day raw juice fast.

[narlus]

Ok, I've seen several threads of the concoction in the bottle. Spill it, what the hell is it? Cider vinegar? Donkey piss?

from wiki:
Kombucha is the Western name for sweetened tea or tisane that has been fermented by a macroscopic solid mass of microorganisms called a "kombucha colony," usually consisting principally of Bacterium xylinum and yeast cultures. It has gained much popular support within many communities, mentioned by talk show hosts, and celebrities. The increase in popularity can be seen with many commercial brands coming onto the retail market and thousands of web pages about this fermented beverage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha

[SkaredShtles]

Let it sit a bit longer and this is what you'll get:

http://alienphotos.k-netti.nu/main/graphics/uploaded/1611/alien%20body%202.jpg

[stevew]

Example, I refuse to buy any packaged product if a five year old couldn't identify what it's made out of if you read the ingredients list aloud.
So no beer for you?

[Knuckleslammer]

I'll pass on the kumbaya/yeast concoction. YUK.

Brought my daughter out to lunch with wife today. She won her softball playoffs and she drove in the RBI that won the game. She was psyched as she has confidence issues since my X-gf (he mom) and I split up.

Anyhow, I ordered a non-raw lunch. An open-faced Reuben sandwich. I couldn't believe I couldn't even finish the whole thing. Ate like 1/2 and wanted to barf and was burping and farting all the way home. Wanted to purge and drink a spinach shake. I will say, after eating mostly raw for the past 2 weeks or so, you are not nearly as hungry, but need to eat more often. I don't know why, but I crave spinach constantly. Another thing I've been reading about is the controversy over people on raw diets becoming B-12 deficient.

Not enough research has been done to conclude if a raw/vegan diet contributes to B-12 deficiency, but the evidence is leaning towards that. However they don't specifically say what foods contain b-12.

If I don't eat for more than 3 hours or so, I get very dizzy. I'm probably diabetic from 36 years of eating trash.

I was reading about eggs and supposedly, if you soft boil them, 170 deg for 5 minutes. Here's the article. I think I'd rather just eat them raw. I don't know if I could deal with the consistency of soft-boiled eggs. Never had them. Can't visualize a soft-boiled egg.

"Eggs are an unusually good source of protein � well balanced and the standard by which all protein is evaluated. They have all the essential amino acids in proper proportions. The cancer patient may have two eggs (preferably raw) each day at anytime.

Proper preparation of eggs is of vital importance. The eggs must be heated in the shell. We bring our eggs to a temperature of 140� F. to 160� F. (which is the normal temperature of hot tap water), for five minutes before cracking them. This destroys an enzyme just inside the membrane under the shell that prevents the biotin in the egg from functioning normally. When biotin functions properly, it greatly reduces the cholesterol risks of eating eggs.

After preheating before cracking them, the eggs may then be eaten, as you prefer them. Raw and soft-boiled eggs are the most preferable, though it isn't absolutely necessary to eat them in these forms. In keeping with the use of as much raw food as possible, a good procedure is to eat the eggs raw in a blended drink of some kind, flavored to suit one�s taste.

There was a group of research doctors and dentists who, for at least a dozen years, had eaten two eggs daily (properly prepared as above), as part of a well-balanced nutritional program. Tests conducted on these people showed no increase in cholesterol. In fact, there was a significant decrease in the blood serum cholesterol level of each individual.

Misconceived beliefs of the orthodox medical world about eating cholesterol-containing foods have caused countless people to be unduly alarmed about cholesterol levels and the associated possibility of heart attacks. These misconceptions, carried on from the early 1950�s, have been proven false"

[DRB]

I made the recipe exactly like it says on allrecipes (granted I tend to just grab handfuls of mint from the garden and say "I think that's about a 1/4 cup")...It was a bit risky - I would never think to put a teaspoon of cumin in a salad, along with raisins (i'm very anti-fruit-salad)...
My huneybuns always thinks I'm cracked when I throw new weird food at him like this (he's been moaning about his 'new aged' lunch today of wheat tortillas rolled up instead of a sandwich, and this salad) - but he licked his plate clean last night and said the salad was good, if funny looking.
It went REally well with pork chops! :)

Made this last night... it is definitely going to be in the permanent rotation. Didn't use the radishes and used green onion instead of regular onion. Probably going to up the cumin and lime juice a bit next time. Otherwise spot on. Thanks for posting this recipe.

BAH tell your woman to quit slacking and get that lemon cookie recipe up.

That jar is the exact same jar they stored the baby sharks we dissected in HS biology.

[BAH]

Chocolate brownies

handful of almonds (ground slightly first in the vitamix)
handful of raw walnuts (ground also but left some chunks)
2-3 T chocolate powder
2-3 T raw cashew butter
couple squirts of Agave nectar
Threw in a few fresh mint sprigs

I mixed well in the food processor then pressed it into the bottom of a pan lined with parchment paper. slice and serve!

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/brownie.jpg

Use the rest to coat whatever you like.


Chocolate macadamia nuts

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/brownie5.jpg


http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/brownie3.jpg

[BAH]

Lemon Chewies

1 Cup Raw Cashew butter
Juice from 3 -4 lemons
1/2 ripe bannana
1/4 cup raw honey
1/3 cup agave nectar
2 cups dried shredded unsweetened coconut
1 tsp pure vanilla extract

add lemon zest if you really like a lemony taste( be sure it is well rinsed and organic- warning, this will make it VERY strong)

Blend in food processor until smooth. Put into balls on dehydrator mesh. dehydrate at 115 degrees for 8-10 hours or until it reaches a texture that you like.

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/lemon.jpg

[Jr_Bullit]

So no beer for you?

Depends on the beer...Same with any quality liquor - it started in nature... :) Organic beer is becoming a wee bit more common though. But if they start adding corn syrup to beer products, I'll refuse to buy it.
I also avoid those overly sweet coolers.

I'm actually a wine-o...though I like the spendier stuff...I stick to 90pts or higher if I can. And...I fully support the sweetie's enjoyment of good single malt whiskey or a nice tequila. :thumb:

[Westy]

from wiki:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kombucha

Wow. Celebrities like it, it has to be good for you.

[BMXman]

Wow. Celebrities like it, it has to be good for you.

hmmm...maybe I should start using crack :D

[Jr_Bullit]

I still don't get this Kombucha thing...is it just brewed tea? What's with the mushroom? Is it supposed to be some kind of alcoholic thing?
On the organic-kombucha site it looks like they're just brewing tea...a lot of it reminds me of the 'witch brews' we'd make as kids - get an old plastic bucket full of rain water, and add leaves, worms, frogs and let sit and stew for a few days...adding in bark and grass...and then see who you can go throw it on. :) Is that the idea here?

[BMXman]

just use the wiki link and all will be explained...I just added the link to the most common company that makes kombucha so it would be easy to find...D

[dan-o]

dehydrate at 115 degrees for 8-10 hours.


At what temperature does something cease being 'raw'? Unless its 115* where you're at, that's called cooking isn't it.....?

[syadasti]

At what temperature does something cease being 'raw'? Unless its 115* where you're at, that's called cooking isn't it.....?

When it denatures proteins. Enzymes are proteins.

[BMXman]

techically I think most raw foodist go by 112*...but I wouldn't be anal about 3 degrees...D

[Knuckleslammer]

All almonds will be pasteurized coming fall 2007 and labeled as RAW.

I'm hating this country more by the day. Don't tell me to go to Iraq either. This is bullsh*t. You should have the option of eating raw or not.

Sign the petition

http://www.gopetition.com/signatures.php?petid=11754

[syadasti]

All almonds will be pasteurized coming fall 2007 and labeled as RAW.

I'm hating this country more by the day. Don't tell me to go to Iraq either. This is bullsh*t. You should have the option of eating raw or not.

What's your slogan, "visualize raw food" :disgust1:

Tell you sob story to the starving/massacred people around the world at any give time :nopity:

[SkaredShtles]

Grow your own f**king almonds. :D

[Hunter]

Raw food restaurant in Ithaca NY - News article here (http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070627/NEWS01/706270312/1002).

[narlus]

When it denatures proteins. Enzymes are proteins.

you can denature proteins @ room temp (cf. ceviche).

chocolate must be treated in some manner as to render it 'not raw', eh?

[syadasti]

you can denature proteins @ room temp (cf. ceviche).

Yes I mentioned that in this thread - the fish in ceviche is not raw.

Denaturing occurs by heat, acid, or alkali.

[BMXman]

All almonds will be pasteurized coming fall 2007 and labeled as RAW.

I'm hating this country more by the day. Don't tell me to go to Iraq either. This is bullsh*t. You should have the option of eating raw or not.

Sign the petition

http://www.gopetition.com/signatures.php?petid=11754

either suck it up or come on up...I can never have to many MTB neighbors...:DD

[DRB]

I think the RAW diet killed BAH.

[BMXman]

hmm it has been a while...how's it coming Derek??...D

[BAH]

Sara's still 100 percent. I'm about 60-80 percent :) We went on a trip down the coast this past week, and while she was happy eating salads at every restaurant, I couldn't do it. I'm feeling it now though. I feel ridiculously heavy and sluggish. Getting back into it now though...

[DRB]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19694491/

The disease spreads.....

[lampshade333]

those look good. yum.

[SkaredShtles]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19694491/

The disease spreads.....
Mmm....... that disease looks good on Carol Alt. :drool:

[BAH]

Broke rank last week.
It was ok, but I think cooked food is on the really onthe out trail for me. The grill is going up for sale next week:busted:

http://www.bikerubbish.com/photos/july2007/eatin.jpg

[BAH]

Sara's newest creation. She's getting pretty good at this

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/raspberrytart2.jpg

[DRB]

Sara's newest creation. She's getting pretty good at this

http://www.derekandsara.com/raw/photos/june2007/raspberrytart2.jpg

Okay that looks like sh!t...

Is that carob? and what are you using for sweetener?

[BMXman]

Okay that looks like sh!t...

Is that carob? and what are you using for sweetener?

It's looks fine:bonk: ...could be carob or chocolate....D

[DRB]

I think that Sara flipped out and ate BAH.

[SkaredShtles]

I think that Sara flipped out and ate BAH.
I'm starting to think Sara and BAH flipped and ate DRB. :brow:

[DRB]

I'm starting to think Sara and BAH flipped and ate DRB. :brow:

return from vacation has been a bitch..... I don't like being here very much or at all for that matter.

[SkaredShtles]

return from vacation has been a bitch..... I don't like being here very much or at all for that matter.
Time to quit! :thumb:

[Serial Midget]

I just ate the best fish-n-chips ever... from a trailer next to a park in Richland WA.

No, it wasn't raw. I'm off the raw now; too much work and not enough controversy. :monkey:

[SkaredShtles]

I just ate the best fish-n-chips ever... from a trailer next to a park in Richland WA.

No, it wasn't raw. I'm off the raw now; too much work and not enough controversy. :monkey:
That and it doesn't include any fish-n-chips!

RAW DIET SUCKS!!! :D

[DRB]

Time to quit! :thumb:

Okay. Sounds like a plan.....

Been working on my resignation pretty much all day.....

[MikeD]

I was reading about eggs and supposedly, if you soft boil them, 170 deg for 5 minutes. Here's the article. I think I'd rather just eat them raw. I don't know if I could deal with the consistency of soft-boiled eggs. Never had them. Can't visualize a soft-boiled egg.



It's like a poached egg. Yummy over toast...yolk-soaked buttered toast is my favorite...

[DaveW]

It's like a poached egg. Yummy over toast...yolk-soaked buttered toast is my favorite...

:drool: Oh god yes that is so good!

[greenhood]

It bothers me how much this thread is bothering me!

[BMXman]

hmm it has been a while...how's it coming Derek??...D

just checking in again....I think we may go raw for a month and see how it goes...we were bad during the summer :D

[BAH]

just checking in again....I think we may go raw for a month and see how it goes...we were bad during the summer :D

She's still going strong - 100 percent. I'm down to about 20 percent now:busted:

[BMXman]

She's still going strong - 100 percent. I'm down to about 20 percent now:busted:

damn Derek you're supposed to be inspiring me...lol...D

[DRB]

I think BAH and Mrs. BAH are wandering around the neighborhood grazing in their neighbor's yards.

[SkaredShtles]

I think BAH and Mrs. BAH are wandering around the neighborhood grazing in their neighbor's yards.
You know... I'm getting a vision of Mrs. BAH on all fours wandering around the yard. :brows:

[BAH]

I'm back on the raw, I talked the sweet wife into retiring so now she's got all kinds of time to cook new stuff. We combined blogs so now it's bike stuff and raw foods aha

http://www.bikerubbish.com

[crashdwn22]

interesting news for all you raw fooders:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071224125524.htm

[ohio]

I just read this whole thread instead of working on my first day back from break. It inspired me to drink a large glass of water and draw a chart of the thread showing a false peak ("local maximum" for Toshi) at hacksaw-mouthed whore-babies and a true peak at butt pee.

I'm not considering going raw but I am considering switching from the PAWN forum to the food forum. This is entertaining ****.

[ohio]

Problem #1 with this diet: if I had a powerful blender, I would be far too tempted to start ramming my valuables (ahem) into it.

http://www.willitblend.com/
http://www.willitblend.com/images/iphone_header.jpg

[DaveW]

I'm not considering going raw but I am considering switching from the PAWN forum to the food forum. This is entertaining ****.

DAMN TOURISTS!!!! :shakefist:

[jeffczyz]

Nice thought on the diet.. I'd just find it impossible to stick to..although I can say the same about my traditional low card high protein I do every other month or so.

[BMXman]

ok it's raw food week....today was not so bad....D

[Westy]

How to unboil and egg. (http://www.anorak.co.uk/strange-but-true/181240.html)

[DRB]

I ate raw celery....

[SkaredShtles]

I ate raw celery....
Have you ever tried bok choy raw? :rofl:

[BAH]

well I've been almost completely raw for 2 weeks. Feel great and have lost 8 lbs :biggrin: I probably couldn't do it by myself, but with Sara cooking up some great raw foods, it's pretty easy to eat.
Raw tacos

http://www.bikerubbish.com/rubbish/april2008/rawtaco.jpg

[DaveW]

Whats the Taco made from? :)

[SkaredShtles]

well I've been almost completely raw for 2 weeks. Feel great and have lost 8 lbs [/IMG]
Unless you're fat I give you 4 months until you starve to death. :D

[BAH]

Whats the Taco made from? :)

She'll have the recipe up on her blog shortly. From what I remember her saying

Organic yellow corn
olive oil
water
salt
ground flax
chili pepper flakes
garlic

all mashed up into paste then dehydrated

[BAH]

"sour cream" is

raw cashews
lemon juice
water
salt

"meat" is

walnuts
cumin
coriander

ground in food processer

It really does taste delicious. When I try stuff she makes, I never ask what's in it until afterward, because often I don't like the ingredients but often they are for texture(and nutrition) instead of taste

[glass]

I keep hearing more and more about the benefits of going raw and would love to try it but I'm looking for simplicity. How difficult is it to get all the nutrients and vitamins you need each day? I'm looking for "super easy" here. No complicated recipies. Just bag what I need to eat everyday and get it done. Later on, I can get into preparing meals but to start I just want to know what I need t eat with no preparation. HELP!

[Jettj45]

All raw sounds so weird but I'm sure it works as long as you don't eat bad raw food haha. Personally I think the best diet is the most blatantly obvious one. NOOOO Processed or unnatural foods, all organic and 6 meals a day. Fresh Fruits and Veggies( I never cook em), Chickens, Seafood(no sauce's ie lipids), turkey and nuts.

I had ACL surgery this summer, tore it in a DH race. Leading up to my surgery I got up to around 195lbs @ 6ft. With eating like this and within a month I was down to 174lbs. And no it was not from muscle loss b/c I have all my muscle density back and am around 170lbs. Which is my ideal lean body mass for my height.

[RUFUS]

where did the journal and recipes go? I would like to try this