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MMike
06-05-2007, 07:25 AM
Dropped charges in 2 cases puts U.S. terror trials in limbo (http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2007/06/05/khadr-charges-070605.html)

The White House is being urged to re-examine the way it tries war-crimes suspects at Guantanamo Bay after American military judges dropped terrorism charges against two prisoners.

LordOpie
06-05-2007, 09:38 AM
I'm all for due process, humanitarian treatment of prisoners, detainment ONLY with strong cause, but I hate technicalities. If the guy committed the crime, the he needs to be charged.

fluff
06-05-2007, 09:47 AM
I'm all for due process, humanitarian treatment of prisoners, detainment ONLY with strong cause, but I hate technicalities. If the guy committed the crime, the he needs to be charged.

Well, there must be a crime to answer, which is a technicality.

dan-o
06-05-2007, 11:16 AM
Well, there must be a crime to answer, which is a technicality.

I agree with Fluff. Killing a US medic with a grenade is not an arrestable 'crime'. Instead of shipping the little Queeb to guantanamo we should have had him dig his own grave, shot him in the face and accurately labelled him a 'dead enemy combatant'.

LordOpie
06-05-2007, 11:25 AM
I agree with Fluff. Killing a US medic with a grenade is not an arrestable 'crime'. Instead of shipping the little Queeb to guantanamo we should have had him dig his own grave, shot him in the face and accurately labelled him a 'dead enemy combatant'.
approved.

The thing is, if he's captured as an enemy combatant, then he's a POW, yeah?

Which country do we return him to?

jimmydean
06-05-2007, 12:07 PM
approved.

The thing is, if he's captured as an enemy combatant, then he's a POW, yeah?

Which country do we return him to?

Canada?

I agree that a direct assault should be an easy case.

fluff
06-05-2007, 12:47 PM
approved.

The thing is, if he's captured as an enemy combatant, then he's a POW, yeah?

Which country did we return him to?

Which country do you take him from?

The whole scenario is ridiculous; you invade a country then attempt to charge the people you fought against as if there was no invasion. If you start a war you must surely expect some opposition, otherwise why take guns?

MMike
06-05-2007, 12:53 PM
otherwise why take guns?

Because they match their shoes?

rockwool
06-05-2007, 01:01 PM
Because they match their shoes?

Your real name is SMARTASS!! :busted: ;)

LordOpie
06-05-2007, 01:20 PM
Which country do you take him from?

The whole scenario is ridiculous; you invade a country then attempt to charge the people you fought against as if there was no invasion. If you start a war you must surely expect some opposition, otherwise why take guns?
The point isn't that opposition is somehow a surprise, but labeling the captured combatants properly.

If they're not POWs, then by default, they're "illegal" combatants. If they're POWs, then treat them as per the Geneve convention.

fluff
06-05-2007, 01:33 PM
The point isn't that opposition is somehow a surprise, but labeling the captured combatants properly.

If they're not POWs, then by default, they're "illegal" combatants. If they're POWs, then treat them as per the Geneve convention.

No ****?

Secret Squirrel
06-05-2007, 01:59 PM
And since we didn't "declare" war...yada yada yada....

LordOpie
06-05-2007, 02:04 PM
No ****?

well, that clarifies everything. You rock!

fluff
06-05-2007, 02:05 PM
And since we didn't "declare" war...yada yada yada....

Aha! So you did learn something from Pearl Harbour.

fluff
06-05-2007, 02:06 PM
well, that clarifies everything. You rock!

I do. And you win today's prize for stating the bleedin' obvious.

LordOpie
06-05-2007, 02:09 PM
I do. And you win today's prize for stating the bleedin' obvious.

So you agree that a trial is dumb and we should just kill them all.

Save our tax dollars.

MMike
06-05-2007, 02:14 PM
As I jew I would have thought you'd be all for litigation....

fluff
06-05-2007, 02:15 PM
As I jew I would have thought you'd be all for litigation....

You're a Jew? Whodathunkit.

fluff
06-05-2007, 02:16 PM
So you agree that a trial is dumb and we should just kill them all.

Save our tax dollars.

Well, now you've won the war you can let them go.

You have won the war, haven't you?

Secret Squirrel
06-05-2007, 02:22 PM
Well, now you've won the war you can let them go.

You have won the war, haven't you?

What war?

LordOpie
06-05-2007, 02:24 PM
Well, now you've won the war you can let them go.

You have won the war, haven't you?

Tony Blair thinks the job is done.

Westy
06-05-2007, 02:26 PM
Aha! So you did learn something from Pearl Harbour.

Yes, it wasn't over when the Germans attacked.

fluff
06-05-2007, 02:32 PM
Tony Blair thinks the job is done.

Over here that's taken as a sure sign it's been botched.

fluff
06-05-2007, 02:32 PM
Yes, it wasn't over when the Germans attacked.

Are you calling Marlene Dietrich fat?

rockwool
06-05-2007, 02:52 PM
Are you calling Marlene Dietrich fat?

She sure could eat a lot of schnitzen grüben..

Westy
06-05-2007, 02:57 PM
Are you calling Marlene Dietrich fat?


Don't stop me I'm on a roll.