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dexter
05-19-2007, 05:40 PM
just like it says, what is the cheapest 888 mount stem availbale WITH bolts. no manufacturer weights either, real world

.Pit Steelers.
05-19-2007, 05:52 PM
cheapest or lightest?..

in the trees
05-19-2007, 05:59 PM
My guesses - cheapest - FUNN, lightest - Sunline.

toby

no skid marks
05-19-2007, 06:23 PM
Nah he has to mean lightest. He talks of weights.
Anyway I want to know what's lightest now.
Can anything beat my extra steerer tube and Thomson stem?

dexter
05-19-2007, 06:40 PM
yes weight

.Pit Steelers.
05-19-2007, 07:00 PM
Yeah im pretty sure the Sunline is the lightest

SteezyWeezy
05-20-2007, 12:50 AM
Nah he has to mean lightest. He talks of weights.
Anyway I want to know what's lightest now.
Can anything beat my extra steerer tube and Thomson stem?

but can it beat not twisting on falls?

Mountain_Dewd
05-20-2007, 12:53 AM
The cro mag is so unbeilevably pimp just get it.

i want a 888 just so i can have one.

Ive hefted one and it felt svelt, dont really know how it compares but **** it cant be more than a few grams more than anything else

http://www.chromagbikes.com/0/stem-eighty-eight-2-big.gif

its sexier in real life

SteezyWeezy
05-20-2007, 01:08 AM
The cro mag is so unbeilevably pimp just get it.

i want a 888 just so i can have one.

Ive hefted one and it felt svelt, dont really know how it compares but **** it cant be more than a few grams more than anything else

http://www.chromagbikes.com/0/stem-eighty-eight-2-big.gif

its sexier in real life

that is indeed sexy:drool:

toodles
05-21-2007, 04:26 PM
I'd check Sunline and Burgtec. They make the lightest Boxxer integrated stems so their 888 versions should be similar.

On that note, would it kill companies to agree on one damn mounting standard.

*edit* sunline - 170g, burgtec - 196g

bizutch
05-21-2007, 04:44 PM
Sunline Boxxer direct mount...looks sheer terrifyingly light in person when mounted up. Funn is ridiculously HUGE. I mean...6mm bolt heads?

bizutch
05-21-2007, 04:45 PM
Oh...and FYI...Thomson X4 and 2 5mm bolts ran down into the crown is the same as bolt on. Trick courtesy of motomike.

in the trees
05-21-2007, 05:04 PM
Oh...and FYI...Thomson X4 and 2 5mm bolts ran down into the crown is the same as bolt on. Trick courtesy of motomike.

Explain, please . . . Is the stem drilled and tapped for the crown bolts? Interesting.

toby

dexter
05-21-2007, 05:46 PM
huh??

vitox
05-21-2007, 05:49 PM
stock is, what 180g?

S.K.C.
05-21-2007, 06:22 PM
Straitline (can be mounted as a DM stem!)
25.4: 55mm: 260g, 70mm: 295g
31.8: 50mm: 224g, 65mm:268g

Funn MZX2 : 251g
Danger Boy 888 DM : 244g
Chromag 88 : 234g
Burgtec 888 DM: 196g (but probably costs like $400USD) :rolleyes:
Marz. 888 DM (new 06' - 07' version): 190g

RaID
05-21-2007, 06:49 PM
Straitline (can be mounted as a DM stem!)
25.4: 55mm: 260g, 70mm: 295g
31.8: 50mm: 224g, 65mm:268g

Funn MZX2 : 251g
Danger Boy 888 DM : 244g
Chromag 88 : 234g
Burgtec 888 DM: 196g (but probably costs like $400USD) :rolleyes:
Marz. 888 DM (new 06' - 07' version): 190g

champion:cheers:

S.K.C.
05-21-2007, 06:51 PM
Hey - I'm good like that.

:biggrin:

Glad to help.

ctavel
05-21-2007, 06:54 PM
So the one from Marz is the lightest-- thats great :clapping:

dexter
05-21-2007, 07:09 PM
nice always good to save some money. that means more funds towards the ti bolt kit.

Udi
05-21-2007, 07:41 PM
So the one from Marz is the lightest-- thats great :clapping:
no one reads the little guy's posts anymore?
sunline - 170g
sunline is the lightest direct-mount for 888

the boxxer version at 147g is the lightest for that too, pity it doesn't come in 25.4 clamp.

S.K.C.
05-21-2007, 07:47 PM
Whoops -

...forgot to post the Sunline weight!

Yep, its definitley the lightest - and comes in 45mm.

If you want something longer - the Marz stem is 53mm.

bizutch
05-21-2007, 09:06 PM
Explain, please . . . Is the stem drilled and tapped for the crown bolts? Interesting.

toby

nope. The existing direct mount holes for the Boxxer are just a shade wider than the width of the Thomson X.4. He just ran two bolts DOWN into the crown and dremeled one edge of the heads of the bolts down. They act as perfect stops for the X.4. Consider them tiny little "fork bumpers" that won't let your stem turn.

Don't know how much the two little bolts weigh...but to a guy with an X.4 stem, it's pretty useful info if they're thinking of blowing more money just for a bolt on.

vitox
05-21-2007, 09:30 PM
nope. The existing direct mount holes for the Boxxer are just a shade wider than the width of the Thomson X.4. He just ran two bolts DOWN into the crown and dremeled one edge of the heads of the bolts down. They act as perfect stops for the X.4. Consider them tiny little "fork bumpers" that won't let your stem turn.

Don't know how much the two little bolts weigh...but to a guy with an X.4 stem, it's pretty useful info if they're thinking of blowing more money just for a bolt on.



this can be done on 888s with RF diabolus stems too, probably other stems also but ive seen it done with the diabolus.

no skid marks
05-21-2007, 09:39 PM
but can it beat not twisting on falls?

Hmm not twisting Vs bent bars or stress on crown. Hmmm

SteezyWeezy
05-21-2007, 09:50 PM
Oh...and FYI...Thomson X4 and 2 5mm bolts ran down into the crown is the same as bolt on. Trick courtesy of motomike.

yes please esplain
edit: oops, didnt read on, thanks

vitox
05-21-2007, 10:16 PM
Hmm not twisting Vs bent bars or stress on crown. Hmmm

well the crown has got holes there to be used with a bolt on crown, IE designed for taking those same forces you are worried about.

no skid marks
05-21-2007, 10:41 PM
Anything made stronger/stiffer will just transferre forces elsewhere. I'm not worried about it,it was just a retort to the twisting statement.
If you're running lightweight bars to save weight it may be something to concider.All in all not really an issue as my stem rarelly twists in the biggest of crashes. I snapped carbon bars and my brake mount around the bar with my Thomson,cant remember if it twisted or not(don't think so).