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DRB
05-04-2007, 06:12 AM
I guess he's been away from the herd all along.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18479463/

The first time the question came Thursday night, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani dodged it.

Asked about abortion, the closest thing to an immutable litmus test for core Republican voters, Giuliani at first avoided saying what is well-known among Republican opponents of his presidential campaign: that he supports abortion rights.

Giuliani ticked off the initiatives he undertook as mayor to reduce abortions in New York and concluded, “I support the Hyde amendment,” the 1976 congressional measure that excludes abortion from the health care services funded by Medicaid.

But the second time the question came around at the first Republican presidential debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, he did not flinch.

“In my case, I hate abortion,” Giuliani said. “... But ultimately, because it is an issue of conscience, I would respect a woman’s right to make a different choice.”

In fact, Giuliani even went so far as to add that “it would be OK” for the Supreme Court to uphold the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision

And still he leads the GOP pack... I find that interesting.

stinkyboy
05-04-2007, 09:42 AM
He likes to feel pretty.

http://www.silt3.com/photos/giuliani_in_drag.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/49/148149446_28c0271a85_m.jpg

http://amcop.blogspot.com/giuliani%20drag.jpg

dante
05-04-2007, 10:44 AM
And still he leads the GOP pack... I find that interesting.

thank GOD. he's the only one who has the ba!!s to stand up to the radical fringes of his party (actually, he's one of the few candidates of *either* party to do so) and to speak his mind. instead of "I changed my mind (Romney on flip-flopping from pro to anti-abortion)" or "I misheard the question (Thompson after stating last night that he was fine with companies firing workers for being gay, and then calling CNN this morning to correct himself)"

he won't make it through primaries, but if he does he'll pretty much kick the crap out of any democrat he faces.

Westy
05-04-2007, 10:51 AM
thank GOD. he's the only one who has the ba!!s to stand up to the radical fringes of his party (actually, he's one of the few candidates of *either* party to do so) and to speak his mind. instead of "I changed my mind (Romney on flip-flopping from pro to anti-abortion)" or "I misheard the question (Thompson after stating last night that he was fine with companies firing workers for being gay, and then calling CNN this morning to correct himself)"

he won't make it through primaries, but if he does he'll pretty much kick the crap out of any democrat he faces.


There in lies the problem with primaries. They filter all but the candidates who sit on the far right or left. A moderate candidate who could win a general election will rarely make it through a primary.

Jeremy R
05-04-2007, 11:33 AM
There in lies the problem with primaries. They filter all but the candidates who sit on the far right or left. A moderate candidate who could win a general election will rarely make it through a primary.

Exactly.
Being the huge fencesitter that I am with politics, I look at the elections from a common sense standpoint as opposed to politics
on who I think can win.
The Democrats are especially $hitting and falling back in it on this issue. It would be damn hard for Hillary or Obama to win the general election. Too many people hate Hillary from the other party, and common sense will tell you Obama has his work cut out for him.
The last two democratic presidents were Clinton and Carter, both did a good job with turning on their rural voice and connecting to the heartland, and all that crap. But they both were able to steal alot of votes from the other party, and that is the only way to win.
I can see Rudy winning the easiest because he can do that, but the hardest part for him is going to be getting out of the primary.
If the Christian right hurts him enough to lose the primary, then they could be putting in someone who can't win the general election. Oh, the irony.

dante
05-04-2007, 01:08 PM
yup. although I'd be happy with a Giuliani presidency and a Democratic congress. keep the social issues relatively liberal, and just have a cluster f' on everything else. this country seems to do VERY well with a split presidency/congress.

bac
05-04-2007, 04:07 PM
thank GOD. he's the only one who has the ba!!s to stand up to the radical fringes of his party (actually, he's one of the few candidates of *either* party to do so) and to speak his mind.

I think he just doesn't want to be called on the carpet, as he's already on the record as being for a woman's right to choose.

... Brad

Changleen
05-04-2007, 11:16 PM
Rudy did 9/11.