22.2 bars...

[Larson TT y0!]

How can I aqquire an NPJ wonderbra bar? There aren't many choices out right now and I don't like the feel of atomlabs.

[fiddy_ryder]

nemesis.. soon to come..

[Evil4bc]

nemesis.. soon to come..

yea REALLY SOON I hope !!! like 20 16ft leanghts of TrueTemper OX platiunum 22.2 x .065 jsut showed up yeasterday here to the shop , we literly can not move without haveing to step over this big ass box of material !!

[opjones]

Yeah, quite spending your lunch time eating and on the computer, and get to work! :busted:

[Larson TT y0!]

yea REALLY SOON I hope !!! like 20 16ft leanghts of TrueTemper OX platiunum 22.2 x .065 jsut showed up yeasterday here to the shop , we literly can not move without
haveing to step over this big ass box of material !!

26-28" of that will see my door step...Now get to it! (please don't make the bar unattractive)

[Evil4bc]

26-28" of that will see my door step...Now get to it! (please don't make the bar unattractive)

I'm on ot !!
The 3d models are almost done , I just need to sit down tomorrow or the next day and calculate center line leangh then cut all 260+ft of it into ( ? ) leangh pieces to take to the machinist to have the centers knurled , after that off to the cnc bender and that only takes about a week .

Not a stupid looking bar either , in the end they should look very cool !!

[ZHendo]

make a 25.4mm and i'll buy it. maybe.

[Evil4bc]

make a 25.4mm and i'll buy it. maybe.

You cant swage steel into 25.4 like you can aluminum, thats why we use a 22.2mm to 25.4mm spacer

[Cru Jones]

make a 25.4mm and i'll buy it. maybe.

It's been well documented that 25.4mm is fyckin retarded...

[LeRoy]

Brad:

How much? How much for worldwide shipping? I am gonna be riding a garbage bar for a few weeks until you can get them made and sent but please put me in line for one...

Used this thread for this question as there may be some other monkeys interested.

Thanks

[Evil4bc]

Brad:

How much? How much for worldwide shipping? I am gonna be riding a garbage bar for a few weeks until you can get them made and sent but please put me in line for one...

Used this thread for this question as there may be some other monkeys interested.

Thanks


Right now I'm not 100% sure on price but they should be just around $50 per bar

The final bars should be back from heattreat and powdercoat within the next 2 weeks !!

There are a few people already on the waitng list for these bars as well as the new 22.2mm / 25.5mm Nemesis Project stems
PM if you would like to be added .

shipping internationally can be done through USPS with the total bar demension being around 30in long X 3in x 2in box

Thanks
Brad
Nemesis Project

[fiddy_ryder]

Right now I'm not 100% sure on price but they should be just around $50 per bar

The final bars should be back from heattreat and powdercoat within the next 2 weeks !!

There are a few people already on the waitng list for these bars as well as the new 22.2mm / 25.5mm Nemesis Project stems
PM if you would like to be added .

shipping internationally can be done through USPS with the total bar demension being around 30in long X 3in x 2in box

Thanks
Brad
Nemesis Project

and what colors will be coming back from powdercoat???

[Evil4bc]

and what colors will be coming back from powdercoat???

Well all your concerned anout is the blue to match your bike right ??

I'm not telling what colors , gotta ait untill SeaOtter to see
They will all be orignal Nem-Pro approved colors and finish option's.

Stay tuned !!

[fiddy_ryder]

Well all your concerned anout is the blue to match your bike right ??

I'm not telling what colors , gotta ait untill SeaOtter to see
They will all be orignal Nem-Pro approved colors and finish option's.

Stay tuned !!


i wanna see the raw too :monkeydance:

[Evil4bc]

i wanna see the raw too :monkeydance:



Right now it looks like RAW , Trans red , some kind of off white , trans black and a few other surprises I have in the works .

I can also powdercoat the bars to match any bike out there too .:lighten:

[Evil4bc]

Well I thought I'd give everyone a look into what goes into the development process of one of our products this time a handlebar!!

Since there really isnt anyhting to revolutionary in a 22.2mm steel bar I figure it's ok to post up a few of the latest renderings of what the bar is going to look like in the end . These views are from a full 3d model were we calculated plain of rotation for each of the bends and the rise of the bar :shocked:
Thanks for the continued support for Nem-Pro !!
Hope you guys like these :twitch:

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_4.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_2.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_1.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_6.sized.jpg

[opjones]

They look like they'll be nice and tight. I like

[fiddy_ryder]

is that the 2.75 bar?

[Evil4bc]

is that the 2.75 bar?

YUP !!

[fiddy_ryder]

oh so tasty....

[WestCoastHucker]

....I can also powdercoat the bars to match any bike out there too...

i'd like to see you do that for mine....

on a random note, i don't think i like that much backsweep...

[fiddy_ryder]

i'd like to see you do that for mine....

...


color matched bars is where its at..

[Evil4bc]

i'd like to see you do that for mine....

on a random note, i don't think i like that much backsweep...


Yea gonna be hard to do with your bike LOL

Backsweep is only 9degrees and upsweep is 4 degrees so they should feel pretty similar to most DH bars with a tad more rise and a nicer side bend for better jumping clearance !!!

[snaky69]

Your french tester is waiting too!

[Larson TT y0!]

bump for updates!

[Evil4bc]

bump for updates!

Currently at the bender getting bent

[snaky69]

Well I thought I'd give everyone a look into what goes into the development process of one of our products this time a handlebar!!

Since there really isnt anyhting to revolutionary in a 22.2mm steel bar I figure it's ok to post up a few of the latest renderings of what the bar is going to look like in the end . These views are from a full 3d model were we calculated plain of rotation for each of the bends and the rise of the bar :shocked:
Thanks for the continued support for Nem-Pro !!
Hope you guys like these :twitch:

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_4.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_2.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_1.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/NemesisProject/bar_6.sized.jpg

Sweet, when will they be in the mail?:clapping: :cheers: :D

[bcd]

nice tight bend close the the stem.

looks good guys

[sokoloka]

Currently at the bender getting bent
Sounds like a typical Friday night!

:monkeydance:

[Larson TT y0!]

time for the weekly BUMP! ;-)

[dexter]

talked to brad at 5 today leaving the gym, he had just picked them up from the bender and said they look breathtaking. he said they look like monkeylights bend wise but very compact and plain out sick. lots of x up and turndown clearance on em too boot. cant wait for my sets to come in. tits

[Larson TT y0!]

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet!

[LeRoy]

Can't wait... got my molly dressed all pretty with the exception of a pair o' ugly ass bars. Photos'll be up after I get a set of these bars shipped over this way. Again... I am voting for a paii painted up to match a set of fly "dirty white" cranks.

[grom-dom]

me wants some dem gangsta bars!

[BikeSATORI]

hey guys, what's up, I'm actually over the fence and into the action here, haha...

Brad, those bars are looking sick man, you been hidin' stuff from me! c'mon now, didn't see this action droppin' on the other boards!?

double-duece dot duece is where it's at mang! can you say elementary?

[Cru Jones]

hey guys, what's up, I'm actually over the fence and into the action here, haha... :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

What's good SATORI. Nice to see you over here.

[grom-dom]

gee whiz i didnt expect to see satori over here!!! you scorin a set of these barizzles and stemshizzles cru?

[swerve76]

Satori is here too...you're everywhere. Anyone know what the price and availability will be for these?. Asked a similar question in an older thread and did not get much of an answer.

[Evil4bc]

Hello everyone !!

I jsut got back from SeaOtter and we had a great time !!
the bars are done !! Along with the 22.2/25.4mm stems !!

There were allot of pictures taken at the NemPro booth by all sorta of media and press !

First one to find pictures of the bars and stems on the web and post them in this thread get's a FREE Nem-Pro Tshirt
so get surfing and find thoes pic's !!

Brad

[Larson TT y0!]

Hello everyone !!

I jsut got back from SeaOtter and we had a great time !!
the bars are done !! Along with the 22.2/25.4mm stems !!

There were allot of pictures taken at the NemPro booth by all sorta of media and press !

First one to find pictures of the bars and stems on the web and post them in this thread get's a FREE Nem-Pro Tshirt
so get surfing and find thoes pic's !!

Brad


I don't beleive there are any up yet.. I've spend the last 15 minutes looking for them.

[Bicyclist]

Yeah, I searched for a while as well.

[BikeSATORI]

I've got pics of the deathclamps.... no beat pipes.

[THRILLSEEKA]

DAMNIT I hate teasing!!!! Brad, you SUCK!
C'mon, man, enough foreplay, LET'S GET IT AWN!

[Evil4bc]

DAMNIT I hate teasing!!!! Brad, you SUCK!
C'mon, man, enough foreplay, LET'S GET IT AWN!


I currently DO NOT have any pictures of the new stem or the new bars or I would have already posted them ..... you know this !

Hollywood from MTBR came by Sunday and took a few really good ones , along with like EVERY other Snap Money on the planet ... so give em a lil bit to re-coup and get the photos posted .

Kris AKA Dukes-of-Tahoe was a HUGE help this weekened and really stepped up to help Nem-Pro make a fantastic SeaOtter showing , so my hats off to Kris for hooking it up fat all weekend and keeping the cheeseburger count high !!:clapping:

[THRILLSEEKA]

Yeah, I know man, just givin' the due guff. VERY curious though.... like twitching even...

[DUKESofTAH0E]

look real close and you can sneak a peak at the bars.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/dukesoftahoe/AHWK_0093.jpg

stem
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/dukesoftahoe/AHWK_0102.jpg

brad's new love
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v95/dukesoftahoe/Abradotter.jpg

[THRILLSEEKA]

:drool: That red is so luscious....slobberslobber...

And lookie at all that room for levers! I really like the looks of that bar. MORE PICS PLEASE.

[THRILLSEEKA]

Were there any full-on side shots of the new fullies posted up anywhere? I'd like to see some better shots than the glimpses I've caught sight of. I'm in the market for SOMETHING new..just don't know what, yet. Gotta replace an Enduro SX with an Avalanche shock...

[Larson TT y0!]

I win I win...


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/VisualAssassin3/nem-pro_barstem07.jpg


HUGE props to hollywood from MTBR for this picture!

[Evil4bc]

I win I win...


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/VisualAssassin3/nem-pro_barstem07.jpg


HUGE props to hollywood from MTBR for this picture!


We have a winner !!!!!:clapping:
PM me your address so I can send you your prize !!

[Evil4bc]

Were there any full-on side shots of the new fullies posted up anywhere? I'd like to see some better shots than the glimpses I've caught sight of. I'm in the market for SOMETHING new..just don't know what, yet. Gotta replace an Enduro SX with an Avalanche shock...

There have been a few posted on Sick Lines and DH news when we orignally launched the bike a few weeks ago , I'm sure a few from SeaOtter will surface soon !

I have one here at the shop that we didnt pull out of the car for SeaOtter but it's totally 100% murdered out ( all black ) with a Roco Air rear shok , I'll snap a few pic's of this bike later this week before it get's sent off to the U.k. for the bike show there next week .

[fiddy_ryder]

illmatic.. sign me up...what else you got comin, i think i may have a full on nemesis sled.. frame, fork, bars, stem..

[opjones]

Damn It! I searched a good 20 minutes yesterday, even emailed Lutze ;) But he didn't have any. They look super slick!

[Evil4bc]

Damn It! I searched a good 20 minutes yesterday, even emailed Lutze ;) But he didn't have any. They look super slick!


Haaaaa we get NO love from Lutez ! Thanks for Emailing him though and reminding him that he missed the best stuff at SeaOtter !!

I was very surprised when Adam Hauk came by our booth Friday and test rode the Double Agent , needless to say he was very impressed . How long untill we see a similer bike from Mr. Hauk's frame sponsor ?? Who knows ??

[v-digit]

Hauk? hmmm...
perhaps you mean Adam Hauck?

[opjones]

Hauk? hmmm...
perhaps you mean Adam Hauck?

:twitch: Obviously

[Stoked]

sorry if this was brought up already but did anyone get a weight on the nemesis bars yet? thanks

[Evil4bc]

sorry if this was brought up already but did anyone get a weight on the nemesis bars yet? thanks

Oficial weight is sorta heavy :disgust: there .065 chromoly with a width of 29" in !!!! So they hve some weight to them but not overly heavy .

I'll try to take a pair of bars don to the UPS store today and weigh them .

[don]

nice! They look really good.

[BJ-]

They look great Brad!

Just get some sleep mate. So, when it comes time to send me mine, you send them to the right address!

NemPro Represent!

[Evil4bc]

They look great Brad!

Just get some sleep mate. So, when it comes time to send me mine, you send them to the right address!

NemPro Represent!

:clapping:
thanks BJ !!

[snaky69]

Yeah they do look nice.

[BJ-]

:clapping:
thanks BJ !!

Hey no probs, you know i love you! In a strickly non-sexual or gay kind of way...

[dexter]

now send me mine brad por favor

[grom-dom]

keep up the good work brad!! nice stufff. oh check your voicemail on your phone i hads a question. they look uber gangsta though

[Evil4bc]

now send me mine brad por favor

:shocked: :plthumbsdown: Thanks for the great comments DEX
At least you could have said they looked nice before demanding a pair :disgust1:

[snaky69]

:shocked: :plthumbsdown: Thanks for the great comments DEX
At least you could have said they looked nice before demanding a pair :disgust1:

On the bright side he said please.:busted:

[Evil4bc]

On the bright side he said please.:busted:

In spnaglish :twitch: :monkeydance:

[sokoloka]

Any chance there'll be a pair to spare for a special someone in Illinois? :monkey:

How'd my mental math that turn out? I think I came up with 102 or something right?

I got some interesting news! Seems like I'm going to be in the PNW after I wrap up BA 449 at the beginning of June... I was thinking of swinging my way down to the bay area for a day or two, maybe dropping by and actually saying hello this time haha.

Either way, hit me up on the celly - long time no talk!

[redclover]

WHat about the stem... it is bmx size right? Any chance it competes in weight to the Shadow or Odyssey Elementary?

[Evil4bc]

BTW, these are built by Solid... solid they were not. Haha, and I bent them http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1993/bentbarspf0.jpg

HOLY CRAP !!!!

I would be scared to ride these bars on my bike :shocked:
They also look to be a very differnt bent angle and radius from our bars , so this and the differnce in material hardness from the Plymouth tubeing Soild used and the TrueTember bar stock we use .
Normal elongation on Plymouth tubeing is around 30-40%
The Work hardened TrueTemper bar stock we use for our bars is 15%:shocked:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y143/VisualAssassin3/nem-pro_barstem07.jpg

[THRILLSEEKA]

Heeeeyyy... I feel so... USED...! :)
Yeah, I dunno WTF you just said there, but I assume it means they won't turn into "W's" right!? Ha!

[Evil4bc]

Heeeeyyy... I feel so... USED...! :)
Yeah, I dunno WTF you just said there, but I assume it means they won't turn into "W's" right!? Ha!

Re read my post , or see the cliff notes below

What I said is that after you posted pictures of your bars and how they bent it was flat out scary looking .

I started really going over my calculations again , and thoes things look flat out scary , how the heck did they bent in the center of the stem ???

I'm going to go with very weak material to start with , bend radius too large which will transfer more stress through the bar into the material , then you have the angle of bend they also look super wide for only a 28 bar .

Also the material hardness and also ELONGATION of the material is VERY differnt from straight guage Plymouth tubeing and vs the TrueTemper OX plat work hardened alloy we used for our bars .

Plymouth tubeing is rated at a 30% elongtion this is how much the material will bend
The OX platinum has a 15% elongation so it's much harder to bend and the work hardering properties of the material harden's the material at bends .

I'm jsut hopeing I never see a pic of my bars lookign like that :disgust:

[THRILLSEEKA]

Hey, Don asked me to test them out for him, and the only thing left was the Atomic Spine-to-Bash move. It's risky, but if it's done right, it'll earn you a nice rose like this one!
http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/7136/04280717431gk9.jpg

[don]

yeah, I'm really bummed that happend to ya Thrill - never like to see/hear a fellow rider getting banged up. It looks pretty gruesome and that bail sounded nuts. Just curious - what do you think would happend with a pair of say 31.8 Deity's in the same situation? What if the bars didn't bend - would the impact be even a little harder? I also would hate to think what your spine would look like if you weren't running a bash guard - yikes!

And the bend in the middle is really weird - you can see the extra knurling coming out of the stem - like the material just stretched and not crimped. I agree w/ Brad - the material might be partly to blame especially given the application and having no cross bar. Those bars were not heat-treated as well - which I'm not sure if it makes a big difference or not. I think Solid make a LOT of BMX bars but big difference between those and what I had made Also, .083 wall might have held - but at the expense of more weight.

Another item Brad mentioned is the bend angles. My original 2D CAD looks a lot closer to Brad's bar. It seems Brad has it figured scientifically while I was just going by what looked better - haha. I took some bend angles from bars like the Answer Protapers and old Profile chromo bars and tweaked it just a bit. BTW, those Solid bars were only 26.5" not 28".

To give Aaron at Solid some credit - he did work with me on the designs and was very fair with pricing. Not too mention - he was more than happy to try the project - not something I can say about other BMX companies I contacted. The sweep and bend angles were off but things were done thru email and JPG files. I have to say there were some bars in the 2nd batch he did that felt and looked a lot better and closer to my specs - I have been more than happy running them for the past few months and will continue to do so on one of my bikes.

Anyway, Thrill - sorry again. Can't wait for us to try out the Nemesis product.

[THRILLSEEKA]

Stop apologising, it sure as hell wasn't your fault!
Honestly...I really don't blame the bars. It was just such a freak thing. Can't say for sure, since I don't really know HOW it happened, but I'm thinking that yes, the Deity's may have gotten tweaked on that hit as well. Hell, I don't know. I run Deity's on my fullys and have had NO ISSUES whatsoever with them, and I practice my crashing techniques fairly often. But to be honest, I wouldn't run ANY steel bars on a bike that takes hits like my SX does because in my mind, steel bends. I don't jump my HT so I feel comfortable with steelies and I like the look/feel of the smaller dia bars.
I think when i first got them from you I told you they felt a little flexy? The way we came to that conclusion was by mounting the stem on the bars, flipping them upside-down and pushing down on them. Even by hand they would deflect a good .25 of an inch, and they flexed right in the middle of the knurled area(which IS pretty cool, but not if it's making a weak point). I actually wasn't even going to put them on after seeing them flex, but my ape-brained, bike chuckin bud is STILL running his with no issues. So I thew them on, they took like 21 seconds to adapt to and actually rode pretty damn great.
So i say ride on. If you got the bends dialed and they feel good, let em rock and see how they do. Just keep us posted!