Please cast your vote:

[8shadow8]

Hey, which one would you recommend? I'll get a lifetime warranty on the airborne, not with the litespeed. and the litespeed was raced for a year while the Airborne saw seldom use. They are almost identical in weight as well.

http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=642&cat=all

or

http://classifieds.mtbr.com/showproduct.php?product=2377&cat=all

Thanks very much.

[sanjuro]

Easy answer: Neither...

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f282/sanjuro_kurosawa/Seven/Seven1.jpg

You deserve the best...

[8shadow8]

Lol, too bad I don't have $3000 burning a hole in my pocket, eh.

[douglas]

Litespeed

[spoke80]

Litespeed

ditto

[MMcG]

Litespeed!

[8shadow8]

OK Including other forums, That's 6-0 for litespeed so far. Does anybody have any reasons as to why? I know the comps are better but they've been raced for a year? Plus i get no warranty with the litespeed I get lifetime warranty with the Airborne.

Thanks

[8shadow8]

Take a look at the geometry around the seat/ top tube weld. The rear triangle on the airborne is quite a bit smaller, since it's welded under the top tube and the seat tube has more overflow about the top tube. which would equate to a smaller rear triangle. how would that change the ride?

Thanks

[8shadow8]

to the top.

[8shadow8]

I'm really stuck here, I'm now leaning towards the litespeed.

[8shadow8]

Lol, thanks guys, I'm now on the side of the pisgah, I'll have enough for it within 2 weeks. I'll make up my mind by then. I can even get some pictures and a review of whichever bike I grab.

Thanks again.

[GotMyGED]

You dont get a lifetime warranty with Airborne, because Airborne is no longer in business. If you warranty the bike, you will get a Flyte for the claim, and they are extremely ugly and heavy. And their customer service sucks, based on previous experience. I used to own an airborne, a small piece broke, long story, blah blah blah, and I got a flyte in return, which I hated.

But my friend also got screwed by American Bicycle Group (Litespeed), so I wouldn't count on great customer service from either company.

[8shadow8]

You dont get a lifetime warranty with Airborne, because Airborne is no longer in business. If you warranty the bike, you will get a Flyte for the claim, and they are extremely ugly and heavy. And their customer service sucks, based on previous experience. I used to own an airborne, a small piece broke, long story, blah blah blah, and I got a flyte in return, which I hated.

But my friend also got screwed by American Bicycle Group (Litespeed), so I wouldn't count on great customer service from either company.

Hey, I had actually read about your dealing with airborne, no offence but it didn't seem like what they had done was terrible, I could see how whatv they did would bother you but it seemed necessary.

They're not any heavier than litespeed. The 20" Aresti is 3.75 lbs while the 19.5 pisgah is 3.73 lbs.

From what I've read, Airborne had superior customer service, especially for warranty claims

I have yet to make my decision, I will let you guys know when I do.

[GotMyGED]

do as you please, that was just my advice.

[8shadow8]

I'm leaning towards the Pisgah, any more input?

How stiff do you think this bike would be in comparison to an older Mongoose iboc steel frame?

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

I'm leaning towards the Pisgah, any more input?

How stiff do you think this bike would be in comparison to an older Mongoose iboc steel frame?

Mongoose IBOC steel was my first mountain bike ! I also had a Litespeed TI "Softail" Unicoi. It was a bouncy thing;not a hardtail..But that sucker was soo bouncy it was dam ridiculous.
I am leaning toward another STEEL hardtail frame.. Although TI will never rust....
Try & ride some frames first i guess !
I have a spine pounding aluminum i never ride.It just sits in my garage. I always grab my 45# DH bike instead...

[8shadow8]

Mongoose IBOC steel was my first mountain bike ! I also had a Litespeed TI "Softail" Unicoi. It was a bouncy thing;not a hardtail..But that sucker was soo bouncy it was dam ridiculous.
I am leaning toward another STEEL hardtail frame.. Although TI will never rust....
Try & ride some frames first i guess !
I have a spine pounding aluminum i never ride.It just sits in my garage. I always grab my 45# DH bike instead...

Thanks for the input. I have though about another steel frame, but the Airborne lancaster costs as much at a good steel frame anyway. And supposedly it is quite stiff, I'm gonna go for the Lancaster, I like its angles better.

Thanks

[8shadow8]

Hi again, I now have enough for both. I'd like some last suggestions if possible.

Thanks

[Changleen]

Sack up and make a decision?

[8shadow8]

not yet. I've yet to hear back from the flyte seller in regards to the shipping quote among other things. I'm still thinking about the pisgah, but I've now found this one. take a look at the rear triangle.
http://aycu38.webshots.com/image/12597/2005450116189277567_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005450116189277567)http://aycu16.webshots.com/image/13375/2005485748098820609_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005485748098820609)http://aycu40.webshots.com/image/13519/2005472119828380813_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005472119828380813)http://aycu02.webshots.com/image/14041/2005441838121224047_th.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2005441838121224047)

[8shadow8]

I went for the pisgah, anyone want pics when it comes?

[ATOMICFIREBALL]

I went for the pisgah, anyone want pics when it comes?

Yes Please !

[MMcG]

Sure post pics - it is a requirement.

[8shadow8]

no problem, I have to wait for my buddy to come back into town to use is digicam. I'll make sure to take some nice pics.