Special License Plates for Sex Offenders:

[BurlyShirley]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070228/us_nm/usa_crime_sex_plates_dc


Ohio wants special car plates for sex offenders
Wed Feb 28, 3:20 PM ET
CINCINNATI (Reuters) - Lawmakers in Ohio said on Wednesday they want to force convicted sex offenders to use a fluorescent-green license plate on their cars so they can be easily identified.



A Republican and a Democrat in the state legislature in Columbus have joined forces to propose the law, which echoes measures in several U.S. states that require convicted drunken drivers to use a yellow, pink or red plate on their cars.

"The fluorescent-green license plate will make the most egregious sex offenders easily identifiable," state Democratic Rep. Michael DeBose said in a statement.

Police said the green plates would allow them to track sex offenders, who are already required to register with the local sheriff's office and are prohibited from living within 1,000 feet of a school.

"It will give Ohio families a great peace of mind knowing that their children will be able to recognize where this danger exists," Summit County Sheriff Drew Alexander said.

Alexander joined the politicians at a news conference in Columbus, the state capital, to praise the proposed law.

Opponents of the proposed law argue the use of a special plate would stigmatize everyone who shared the offender's car -- including their spouse or children.

The proposed law will be debated in committee before a decision is made whether to put the proposal to a vote.

[MMike]

I wonder if you could get novelty versions to install on your friend's car....

If I were a sex offender, I'd rent cars a lot more.

[Changleen]

"pd0 Fle"

[reflux]

"gotKILF"

[MMike]

"jacko"

[ohio]

This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.

[N8]

This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.


cool.... they should just kill themselves then

[jimmydean]

They could get pizza delivery jobs and spread the love all over town.

[BurlyShirley]

This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.

On one hand I can see how it would suck for them....on the other hand, who cares? I hope they get beat down and raped every day by rednecks.

[GumbaFish]

This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.

If you are a sexual offender against children you dont deserve a spot in society anyways, cry me a river if they have to use different plates for their cars.

[Silver]

If you are a sexual offender against children you dont deserve a spot in society anyways, cry me a river if they have to use different plates for their cars.

Now, as soon as you explain to me how a different plate helps to stop sexual crimes against children, I'll support it. Until then, STFU. You're just another Mrs. Lovejoy...

[sanjuro]

Now, as soon as you explain to me how a different plate helps to stop sexual crimes against children, I'll support it. Until then, STFU. You're just another Mrs. Lovejoy...

Guess how the sex offender gets to and from the park or the schoolyard?

I do like the drunken driver plates. Gives law enforcement a warning sign...

[DaveW]

Guess the creeps will just park their cars in the garage and...... take the bus along with lots of kids.

[H8R]

License plates?

Fvck that, give them all face tats.

[H8R]

cool.... they should just kill themselves then

I totally agree.




:shocked:

Oh no!

[GumbaFish]

Now, as soon as you explain to me how a different plate helps to stop sexual crimes against children, I'll support it. Until then, STFU. You're just another Mrs. Lovejoy...

Obviously they already teach in schools not to get in cars with strangers, but they could elaborate on that by letting kids know the dangers of people with a different colored plate especially. Also it would allow adults to keep better tabs on the situation, say if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself. I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.:disgust:

[DRB]

I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.:disgust:

POTD!

[Toshi]

Obviously they already teach in schools not to get in cars with strangers, but they could elaborate on that by letting kids know the dangers of people with a different colored plate especially. Also it would allow adults to keep better tabs on the situation, say if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself. I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.:disgust:

how about making them wear a yellow star on their clothing?

[stinkyboy]

These people are scumbags and felons. I doubt stealing a license plate is beneath them.

[$tinkle]

This goes beyond protection to the point of making it impossible for them to even try to live a normal life. We want to protect kids from offenders, and protect offenders from themselves, but this makes them unemployable and unable to meet normal adult friends to distract them from their sick fetishes.really have nothing to add ('cept for eProps to reflux), but i'm still trying to figure out how a plate would make someone unemployable where the conviction by itself would not.

make sense to me that if an offender opted out of constant treatment they should get the plate, if for no other reason the public would know the lines have been drawn, and the offender has proclaimed himself an enemy of society - the very definition of a predator.

[syadasti]

how about making them wear a yellow star on their clothing?

Don't forget the medical experimentation too, thats a good option. Who cares about basic human rights :clue:

[Silver]

if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself.

And suppose Joe happens to have a kid, and he has to pick him up from school one day because mom is sick?

Congrats, you've just totally screwed up a child for life.

[$tinkle]

Congrats, you've just totally screwed up a child for life.yeah, because he had a normal life to begin with.

i'm sorry, are we feeling sorry for pedophiles now? make no mistake, i do take a dash of pity, but it doesn't come at the expense of making them into some sort of new victim class.

but then again, i'm just a heartless freeper (is there any other kind?)

[GumbaFish]

A.) Comparing making sex offenders have a different colored plate to the holocaust is ridiculous and only takes away from the severity of those events.

B.) When sex offenders move into an area they already have to notify schools and police departments. You don't think that information will be privy to the community? You think their child won't already know what their father did?

C.) You can search for sex offenders online and it gives you their name and address. Its not like this is some kind of super classified information.

D.) 1 out of every 5 girls is sexually mollested before they are 18. I'm sorry all of you are against protecting little girls from getting unwanted advances from dirty old men.

[reflux]

IF I were a convicted sex offender and had a special license plate, I'd never drive the car that I owned and registered. I would go out of my way to borrow a car from my friends and family. Issuing special license plates solves nothing, as perps would still find a way go about their business undetected. Face tats otoh...smokin idea.

[GumbaFish]

Fine, then explain to me how assigning them such a plate in any way is a bad idea? While it may or may not prevent crimes could it really hurt? A conviction alone will already be available to potential employers, I dont understand the harm in giving them a different colored plate.

[Echo]

I'm with the "let them kill themselves" crew.

I seriously don't see how a green license plate is going to solve anything.

If anything, as soon as you start telling kids to avoid cars with green license plates, you dilute the "don't get in cars with strangers" rule.

And as mentioned earlier in this thread, all a pedophile who really wants to commit a crime needs to do is steal a license plate or rent a car.

This proposal is a weak ass cry for attention by a politician who wants his 15 minutes.

[$tinkle]

am i the only one here who realizes the instant the plate is affixed, the car will be torched like it was in a paris suburb?

and how come silver hasn't recommended priestly garbs instead of a plate?

[i-ride]

A.) Comparing making sex offenders have a different colored plate to the holocaust is ridiculous and only takes away from the severity of those events.I don't think Toshi's comment was that far of a stretch. When people talk about 'they should just kill themselves', 'they should be raped' and maimed, and 'they have no place in our society'...coupled with the fact that it's an illness (ie not just something over which a person, without appropriate support and treatment, has control)... one could draw a parallel.

Anyway, none of this addresses epidemiology. License plates (or any other type of branding) will do nothing to prevent new offenses from new offenders. While FIRSTLY taking all reasonable precautions with regard to our children and others, we need to treat the underlying illness.

[GumbaFish]

My thing is I am not really in favor of the law, I am just more ticked off at all the people here that are preaching for the inconviences it might cause a sexual offender. If they don't pass it I could care less, but if they do I just don't want to hear a bunch of felons crying about their rights.

[i-ride]

Fine, then explain to me how assigning them such a plate in any way is a bad idea? While it may or may not prevent crimes could it really hurt? A conviction alone will already be available to potential employers, I dont understand the harm in giving them a different colored plate.It's a waste of money that could be going toward other protective measures or offender rehabilitation. It also heavily stigmatizes and will elicit massive hate crimes, as previous poster noted.

[Silver]

and how come silver hasn't recommended priestly garbs instead of a plate?

I thought that was pretty self-explanatory...

[GumbaFish]

How much money does it really cost to make different colored plates...considering plates are made by people in prison.

[Echo]

My thing is I am not really in favor of the law, I am just more ticked off at all the people here that are preaching for the inconviences it might cause a sexual offender. If they don't pass it I could care less, but if they do I just don't want to hear a bunch of felons crying about their rights.
It's not about rights, it's about common sense. You might as well just pass a law that says they can't own cars, since any car with a green license plate is going to get trashed. Next let's make them paint their houses fluorescent orange, that will save the children too.

Kill them, let them rot in jail, whatever, but don't f*cking spend my tax dollars harrassing them after they've served their sentence. They register with the local police, that should be the end of it. If they repeat the crime then nail them to the wall. There are a million things you could do to convicted pedophiles to make them stand out in society. Show me a study that proves any of this crap makes little Joey safer.

[ohio]

B.) When sex offenders move into an area they already have to notify schools and police departments. You don't think that information will be privy to the community? You think their child won't already know what their father did?

Yes, schools and police departments... the ones that need to know. Look, I'm all for letting sex offenders rot in prison for life, but if we let them out, we have to make them productive. If the person is safe enough to be let out of prison, they need to be able to attempt a normal life with regular check-ins with the law and constant treatment. If you're going to give them the plate, you're better off just keeping them in prison.



C.) You can search for sex offenders online and it gives you their name and address. Its not like this is some kind of super classified information.
Again, you can access it if you choose to, but you have to actively seek it. Many parents probably will and they should. Most employers won't. This is not the same thing as a scarlet letter.

D.) 1 out of every 5 girls is sexually mollested before they are 18. I'm sorry all of you are against protecting little girls from getting unwanted advances from dirty old men.
This is exactly why this will probably be put into law. Because it's obvious from the side of the argument I've chosen that I want little girls to be molested. By the way, look up the statistics of how many of those offences are from family or a family friend. This plate won't help that one bit.

I know we all like the idea of a drunken mob beating up a sex offender every day of his life because they see the plate, but that is NOT the way our society functions. Daily beatings should only happen in prison.

[i-ride]

How much money does it really cost to make different colored plates...considering plates are made by people in prison.Any amt of money would still be a waste of money.. But i believe it's also a waste of policy-makers time/energy/money. Lastly, i believe many of the proponents of this kind of response need to channel their anger more positively. For example, see this thread. My thoughts.

[GumbaFish]

Now see the fact that their cars might get trashed or hate crimes commited is a good arguement against it. Too bad we dont have something like siberia, a couple years hard labor with tigers trying to eat you would probably set any man straight.

[syadasti]

It's not about rights, it's about common sense. You might as well just pass a law that says they can't own cars, since any car with a green license plate is going to get trashed. Next let's make them paint their houses fluorescent orange, that will save the children too.

Kill them, let them rot in jail, whatever, but don't f*cking spend my tax dollars harrassing them after they've served their sentence. They register with the local police, that should be the end of it. If they repeat the crime then nail them to the wall. There are a million things you could do to convicted pedophiles to make them stand out in society. Show me a study that proves any of this crap makes little Joey safer.

Exactly :clapping:

The license plate idea is just some BS for a politician to get his 15 minutes and give job public a false sense of security.

This is like the Sarbanes Oxley Act, another brilliant BS piece of legislation to make it seem like politicians are fighting corporate corruption. What it really is is a great waste of taxpayer money and business IT budgets. Any criminal with half a brain is not going to use company IS systems to commit a crime just like people don't surf porn and other objectionable websites at work unless they want to get caught/fired.

[Secret Squirrel]

Exactly :clapping:

The license plate idea is just some BS for a politician to get his 15 minutes and give job public a false sense of security.

This is like the Sarbanes Oxley Act, another brilliant BS piece of legislation to make it seem like politicians are fighting corporate corruption. What it really is is a great waste of taxpayer money and business IT budgets. Any criminal with half a brain is not going to use company IS systems to commit a crime just like people don't surf porn and other objectionable websites at work unless they want to get caught/fired.

Sarbanes Oxley needs to die. With regular posthumous beatings.

D.) 1 out of every 5 girls is sexually mollested before they are 18. I'm sorry all of you are against protecting little girls from getting unwanted advances from dirty old men.

Along the same lines... "You're either with us or you're against us."

[Echo]

Reminds me of a local story here a few months ago.

This rapist dude from California completed his 30 year sentence like 10 years ago and tried to go to his home in CA. The community made a big stink and drove him out of town. He tried moving somewhere else and they wouldn't take him either. CA state officials looked everywhere to try and find him a place to live but everywhere they asked, some politician or newspaper made a stink.

Finally a monestary in upstate NY agreed to take him in and give this 60-something year old dude a job (Silver - there's your cue). For 10 years, he worked hard making bread, earned his money, never left the monestary, basically lived a peaceful and productive life.

Then a local TV station somehow found out that he was there, now aged over 70 years old. They ran a huge story about it. The whole community around the monestary went into a hissy fit. Politicians whined "how could this happen?!". Big huge f*cking production over this dude, when he was just trying to live out his last years in complete privacy.

Oh and he didn't own a car.

[GumbaFish]

I just found it hard to believe people were arguing against it because it was going to make it harder for them to get jobs. Once a more logical arguement like the idea of acts of hate then being directed towards possibly rehabillitated people was presented I admitted I agreed.

[Westy]

Everyones license plates should just be a list of all their convictions, tax evasion, speeding, DUI, jaywalking, hating freedom.

[sanjuro]

We can spout off as much as we want, but I suspect the ACLU and the courts will settle this issue...

[skinny mike]

colored license plates will probably bring public lynchings back in style...

[H8R]

he was just trying to live out his last years in complete privacy.

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

[$tinkle]

colored license plates will probably bring public lynchings back in style...not sure if you realize it, but that's just wrong, yet pretty funny.

[$tinkle]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.i think someone needs a roofie

[Silver]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.


What if you rape a child molester?

[Secret Squirrel]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

So I take it you see the prison sentences for rapists are too lenient? Then lobby for harsher penalties (i.e. Death...).

But once the justice system deems that 20 years is their penance, and they serve it, don't be all double jeopardy on someone's ass just cause.

[$tinkle]

do you have to be an adult to be a child molester?

[GumbaFish]

So fvcking what? He raped someone. I think you pretty much give up your right to a nice comfortable private life if you are a rapist or a child molester.

If you rape or molest you should be tattooed or better yet branded in the face. You should have to live on a fvcking deserted island or commit suicide to get some peace.

Sounds like what you really want is for us to build a thunderdome and let them battle for our entertainment. Sweet!

[Silver]

do you have to be an adult to be a child molester?

I don't think so. Remember the underage girl who got charged for making child porn when she sent a photo of herself naked over the internet?

[$tinkle]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

[Silver]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

Dude, with Alberto Gonzales as the AG, anything is possible...

[The Joker]

Maybe I'm a heartless f***, but there is no punishment harsh enough for child molesters. I say put them back into the general population. that should solve the problems regarding releasing them into the public after their sentence. Their likelyhood for survival is minimal.

[RenegadeRick]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

This IS the POTD.

[Toshi]

Now see the fact that their cars might get trashed or hate crimes commited is a good arguement against it. Too bad we dont have something like siberia, a couple years hard labor with tigers trying to eat you would probably set any man straight.

read the gulag archipelago, learn your history, and then come talk.

[Toshi]

Maybe I'm a heartless f***, but there is no punishment harsh enough for child molesters. I say put them back into the general population. that should solve the problems regarding releasing them into the public after their sentence. Their likelyhood for survival is minimal.

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

[Silver]

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

Mentally ill drug users and alcoholics? You're pretty much looking at Presidential qualifications there...

[Secret Squirrel]

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

You're not from the 'south are ya?!

[Changleen]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?
^
Knows the slang.

:worrying:

[Secret Squirrel]

since making kittiepr0n is a federal charge, can she be charged as an adult?

That reminds me of a buddy that worked IT here a few years ago. He went to this computer forensics class and had to find porn on these computers. But it was just any porn, it was kittie porn. Literally. Cats. Not doing nasty, disturbing things. Just pictures of cats. He got back from the class and told our boss that he had to find kittie porn. But he pronounced it kiddyporn....I could see my boss having an aneurysm. It was awesome.

[HOWDY]

for law: has kids ?
against law: has no kids ?

[GumbaFish]

read the gulag archipelago, learn your history, and then come talk.
Somebody isn't very good at detecting sarcasm are they?

[ohio]

I just found it hard to believe people were arguing against it because it was going to make it harder for them to get jobs. Once a more logical arguement like the idea of acts of hate then being directed towards possibly rehabillitated people was presented I admitted I agreed.

I assumed you were in support of the hate crimes.

[BurlyShirley]

what about alcoholics who beat their wives? what about schizophrenics? what about meth users? should we just brand and kill them all? or is beating your wife after downing a fifth of jim beam a protected american activity?

...beating a wife is bad, but its not child molestor bad. That's worse than murder if you ask me. Beating your wife is like DUI maybe.

[i-ride]

...beating a wife is bad, but its not child molestor bad. That's worse than murder if you ask me. Beating your wife is like DUI maybe. i think the majority of ppl see it that way, too. and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

[BurlyShirley]

i think the majority of ppl see it that way, too. and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

Sometimes wifes deserve it. Kids never do. (unless they're really sexy I mean)

[syadasti]

i think the majority of ppl see it that way, too. and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.

Its also strange that its OK to show extreme violence on US TV but even minor sexual content is banned from the airwaves. Stupid puritan heritage:plthumbsdown:

Criminal violence isn't any more acceptable than sexual crimes.

[BurlyShirley]

Its also strange that its OK to show extreme violence on US TV but even minor sexual content is banned from the airwaves. Stupid puritan heritage:plthumbsdown:
.

Uh...where is minor sexual content banned from TV? EVERY show on primetime TV has alot of it, MTV is full of it, all movies are full of it...shall I continue?

[syadasti]

Uh...where is minor sexual content banned from TV? EVERY show on primetime TV has alot of it, MTV is full of it, all movies are full of it...shall I continue?

I said airwaves (not cable) - heavily FCC regulated - no minor sexual content like plain front nudity. Violent content is just as harmful to children and yet its easy to find in primetime TV.

The Law

What are the statutes and rules regarding the broadcast of obscene, indecent, and profane programming? Title 18 of the United States Code, Section 1464, prohibits the utterance of “any obscene, indecent or profane language by means of radio communication.” Consistent with a subsequent statute and court case, the Commission's rules prohibit the broadcast of indecent material during the period of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. FCC decisions also prohibit the broadcast of profane material between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. Civil enforcement of these requirements rests with the FCC, and is an important part of the FCC's overall responsibilities. At the same time, the FCC must be mindful of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and Section 326 of the Communications Act, which prohibit the FCC from censoring program material, or interfering with broadcasters' free speech rights.

What makes material “obscene?” Obscene speech is not protected by the First Amendment and broadcasters are prohibited, by statute and regulation, from airing obscene programming at any time. According to the U.S. Supreme Court, to be obscene, material must meet a three-prong test: (1) an average person, applying contemporary community standards, must find that the material, as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest (i.e., material having a tendency to excite lustful thoughts); (2) the material must depict or describe, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct specifically defined by applicable law; and (3) the material, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value. The Supreme Court has indicated that this test is designed to cover hard-core pornography.

What makes material “indecent?” Indecent material contains sexual or excretory material that does not rise to the level of obscenity. For this reason, the courts have held that indecent material is protected by the First Amendment and cannot be banned entirely. It may, however, be restricted to avoid its broadcast during times of the day when there is a reasonable risk that children may be in the audience. The FCC has determined, with the approval of the courts, that there is a reasonable risk that children will be in the audience from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., local time. Therefore, the FCC prohibits station licensees from broadcasting indecent material during that period.

Material is indecent if, in context, it depicts or describes sexual or excretory organs or activities in terms patently offensive as measured by contemporary community standards for the broadcast medium. In each case, the FCC must determine whether the material describes or depicts sexual or excretory organs or activities and, if so, whether the material is “patently offensive.”

In our assessment of whether material is “patently offensive,” context is critical. The FCC looks at three primary factors when analyzing broadcast material: (1) whether the description or depiction is explicit or graphic; (2) whether the material dwells on or repeats at length descriptions or depictions of sexual or excretory organs; and (3) whether the material appears to pander or is used to titillate or shock. No single factor is determinative. The FCC weighs and balances these factors because each case presents its own mix of these, and possibly other, factors.

What makes material “profane?” “Profane language” includes those words that are so highly offensive that their mere utterance in the context presented may, in legal terms, amount to a “nuisance.” In its Golden Globe Awards Order the FCC warned broadcasters that, depending on the context, it would consider the “F-Word” and those words (or variants thereof) that are as highly offensive as the “F-Word” to be “profane language” that cannot be broadcast between 6 a.m. and 10 p.m.

[BurlyShirley]

I guess shows like ER, Scrubs, Desperate Housewives, etc. etc. have no sexual content in your mind? I dont watch them much, but I can tell you thats not true for sure.
Any particular reason you need full frontal nudity in those shows?

[laura]

Obviously they already teach in schools not to get in cars with strangers, but they could elaborate on that by letting kids know the dangers of people with a different colored plate especially. Also it would allow adults to keep better tabs on the situation, say if Joe sex offender happens to park outside of the school when it gets out every day yet has no children himself. I'm sorry I guess we should just issue every sex offender an ice cream truck and a lifetime supply of viagara so they can just pursue what makes them happy.:disgust:

You do realize that not all sex offenders are horrible child molesters and rapists right?

Will they have different shades of green for the 20 year old that pissed off his under aged girlfriend's dad and got arrested for Stat rape? (and don't hit me with that "oh sure, pick out the one thing that doesn't happen too often. It's quite popular around here) How about the hookers and repeat offending johns? Can they get like a blue or yellow plate, because I am not afraid of hookers but I am afraid of rapists.

And what about those creepy rapists that *gasp* don't drive cars, or use their mom's car (because you know they still live with their mom) when they go out to pick up little kids to molest. How about the rapists that hang out in the woods and grab runners off the trail, will they have some kind of marking or should I just assume, when they tie me to a tree, that they are probably a sexual offender?

It's just a silly law to make people "feel" more safe.

Sexual offenders who want to "offend" will do it, no matter what. It's not that hard to get around a license plate and frankly, I'd rather not know that the old man parked next to me at the grocery store got arrested for child porn 10 years ago.

[syadasti]

I guess shows like ER, Scrubs, Desperate Housewives, etc. etc. have no sexual content in your mind? I dont watch them much, but I can tell you thats not true for sure.
Any particular reason you need full frontal nudity in those shows?

I didn't say I needed it. My point is the extremely violent content on primetime TV shows these days is just as if not more harmful to children and yet its acceptable.

As an example, I am sure Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction was such a harmful assault on our youth worthy of huge fines:plthumbsdown:

[BurlyShirley]

I didn't say I needed it. My point is the extremely violent content on TV shows these days is just as if not more harmful to children and yet its common these days.

As an example, I am sure Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction was such a harmful assault on our youth worthy of huge fines:plthumbsdown:

Well personally I think your placing the blame in the wrong place. Im fairly certain that the same people who campaign against nudity/sexual content on TV are also campaigning against excessive violence and the like. They, of late, seem to be losing on both fronts, so blame the FCC for the inconsistency, not the "puritan heritage" or whatever you're getting at.

[Westy]

Just cut their nuts off and be done with it.

[syadasti]

They, of late, seem to be losing on both fronts, so blame the FCC for the inconsistency, not the "puritan heritage" or whatever you're getting at.

Well go to Europe and check out their primetime TV. Having the strict puritanical broadcasting standards or banning video games isn't going to make the difference - real parenting is.

[BurlyShirley]

Just cut their nuts off and be done with it.

That'll just make them be able to penetrate beyond "balls deep"

[BurlyShirley]

Well go to Europe and check out their primetime TV. Having the strict puritanical broadcasting standards isn't going to make the difference - real parenting is.

I agree with that. But having some standard of decency on the public airwaves isnt too crazy if you ask me.

[$tinkle]

and interestingly enough, violence is mostly a choice, whereas pedophilia is mostly an illness. i still see acting on their urges as...uhhhh...acting on their urges. saying they have an illness doesn't excuse them from accountability.ironic how we are more apt to empathize with a person who chooses to beat their wife than we are with a person who has a biochemical problem.never met a wife beater i'd want to party with. is there some sick sub-culture in western society who coddles wife beaters that i don't know about?

also, if it's treatable through chemical castration, you'd be for that? all other options considered beforehand, of course.

i would.

[$tinkle]

Sometimes wifes deserve it. Kids never do. (unless they're really sexy I mean)how do you make this distinction in your state?

[valve bouncer]

That'll just make them be able to penetrate beyond "balls deep"There really is no barrier you aren't prepared to cross, is there? NTTAWWT.

[BurlyShirley]

There really is no barrier you aren't prepared to cross, is there? NTTAWWT.

I really have no shame.

[GumbaFish]

In response to the theoretical boy who has sex with his slightly younger girlfriend and gets charged with rape that doesn't seem likely to be covered by this. Note right in the beginning it says the most egregious offenders, hence especially bad. I like how more people in here think its completely fine to just say let all molesters rot in prison or die, but heaven forbid they get a different colored plate on their car. Personally I think if you are a serious sex offender you should suffer one of those consequences, so my answer obviously would be for a stricter punishment for the crime. And even though I admit it may not be the best idea to brand possibly rehabillitated people, I don't believe its the worst idea either. To all of the 'what if he doesn't have a car' or 'if they really want to do it they will anyways
' people that is a defeatist attitude. I mean heck if somebody really wants to do anything they will, that doesn't mean we should just lay back and allow it to occur. And lastly did any of you think that the plates might discourage such behavior from those who have yet to actually commit a crime for fear of not only going to prison but then still being marked for their crimes for the rest of their life?
I will say it again I have been forced into appearing as the champion of the colored plates due to some of the ridiculous responses from people against it or to things I have said. If you actually read all of my posts I agree that it is not the best idea because it is unfair that somebody could serve their time and actually again become a productive law abiding citizen, however unlikely I believe it, only to then be harrased by strangers because of a distinction placed on their car. I am merely trying to point out that there is some merit behind the idea. I would also be really curious as to how many of you that dismiss me so easily or are down right rude have children. I personally do not, but I am just curious for the sake of being curious.

[i-ride]

i still see acting on their urges as...uhhhh...acting on their urges. saying they have an illness doesn't excuse them from accountability.never met a wife beater i'd want to party with. is there some sick sub-culture in western society who coddles wife beaters that i don't know about?

also, if it's treatable through chemical castration, you'd be for that? all other options considered beforehand, of course.

i would.no, i mostly agree. having an illness does not necessarily excuse a person from accountability. i'd be much less empathetic if this person has refused treatment and/or has not followed through with rehab or whatever.

well, western society doesn't coddle wife beaters exactly, but certainly they are not NEEEARLY as stigmatized as sexual offenders-- and that was my only point, really.

chemical castration?--off the cuff i'd say i'm for it, sure.. but only if the offender agrees to it. of course, i haven't had a bunch of time to think it thru, philisophically/ethically.. but I think my assertion is pretty accurate of how i feel..

[Echo]

I would also be really curious as to how many of you that dismiss me so easily or are down right rude have children.
The main problem is that you ride a Giant. If you had a Turner or an Intense you would probably get more respect.

[DRB]

I really have no shame.

And we are better for it.

[Westy]

The main problem is that you ride a Giant. If you had a Turner or an Intense you would probably get more respect.

Not to mention being rude is par for the course in the pWn3d forum, dickface.
;)

[RenegadeRick]

I guess shows like ER, Scrubs, Desperate Housewives, etc. etc. have no sexual content in your mind? I dont watch them much, but I can tell you thats not true for sure.
Any particular reason you need full frontal nudity in those shows?

Sorry to post this so late, but I can think of SEVERAL good reasons :thumb:

The main problem is that you ride a Giant. If you had a Turner or an Intense you would probably get more respect.

I ride a Giant too. I will take this under advisement :monkeydance:

[GumbaFish]

The main problem is that you ride a Giant. If you had a Turner or an Intense you would probably get more respect.

Wrong I now have a heckler.

[$tinkle]

Not to mention being rude is par for the course in the pWn3d forum, dickface.
;)a smiley?

why not sheepishly approach the headmaster with "more porridge, sir"? make sure you curtsy when you turn to take your chair.

[Westy]

a smiley?

why not sheepishly approach the headmaster with "more porridge, sir"? make sure you curtsy when you turn to take your chair.

Because you expected me to not use a smiley.

[$tinkle]

i see what you did there.

[Echo]

Wrong I now have a heckler.
Well sh!t negro, that's all you had to say. I totally agree with you.

[GumbaFish]

Word.