Toshi's ride pics thread

[Toshi]

Rather than take up space on DH/DS, I'm going to set up camp here. Now that I have a digital camera, the pics will be flowing in constantly, and I'll post links to their index pages on my website.

edit/update: as part of my website revamp (dec 2, 2003) the path to the biking pics has changed. now everything is under

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/biking/

sorry for the change, but the structure was getting too messy

:D

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/biking/dirt%20jumping/october%208,%202002%20dirt%20jumping/Images/39.jpg

[Quadari]

hehe...yeah, so about that spill. Looks good, eh?

I would say that I meant to do that, but the scrapes on my leg tell me otherwise.

Oh well, live and learn. Hopefully next time i'll make it, and perhaps won't knock Toshi's bike out of alignment either. :D

Ari

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
hehe...yeah, so about that spill. Looks good, eh?

I would say that I meant to do that, but the scrapes on my leg tell me otherwise.

Oh well, live and learn. Hopefully next time i'll make it, and perhaps won't knock Toshi's bike out of alignment either. :D

Ari
You posted! Now we can start our own clique...

[Quadari]

Yeah, did you like that?
<Posts: 1>

woohoo.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Yeah, did you like that?
<Posts: 1>

woohoo.
And now you're at three, thanks to the carbon cranks thread. Wow. What say we get Keith and Keirse onto ridemonkey? We could use this thread as our own little space, without annoying the many non-riding members of humba with our banter.

[Quadari]

Muahahahah....

We're taking over ridemonkey. me and my, now 4, posts.

Actually that would be kind of fun. On the other hand, if we use the HUMBA list then we might intise all those non-riders to come join us. Or we might just annoy them. ;)

[Highlander]

Is that dude wearin Blue Blockers?:cool:

[WTGPhoben]

Well toshi, I succumbed to the peer pressure and joined. Those pics (and videos) fromn the ride are cool. I'm jealous. Anyway, I'm getting most of the Superlight tomorrow I'm pretty psyched.

peace

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Highlander
Is that dude wearin Blue Blockers?:cool:
Yeah, period dress, ya know. :eek: :D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben

Well toshi, I succumbed to the peer pressure and joined. Those pics (and videos) fromn the ride are cool. I'm jealous. Anyway, I'm getting most of the Superlight tomorrow I'm pretty psyched.

peace

Ah, xc goodness. I don't think you ever saw my Cannondale, as I had the Stinky by sophomore year. Here's my old ride:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/usa%20cycling%20trials%20camp%20-%20summer%202000/Images/4.jpg

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/usa%20cycling%20trials%20camp%20-%20summer%202000/Images/5.jpg

[Quadari]

Ah, xc goodness. I don't think you ever saw my Cannondale, as I had the Stinky by sophomore year. Here's my old ride:


Did those pics not work for anyone else? They weren't loading for me.

[WTGPhoben]

Did those pics not work for anyone else? They weren't loading for me.

It's probably because toshi turned off his comp

[Quadari]

D'oh! you're right. Silly me.

[WTGPhoben]

Today was a busy day... lots of building and assembling. I thought you guys might like the summary:

The negatives
flat tire on arrival
Packing tape used as rimtape
no seat or seatpost till wednesday
crank isn't splined
SRAM Derailleurs and shifters :mad: :mad: :mad: Who makes derailleurs and brake levers out of plastic?? (sorry: "Composite")
no pedals :(

The positives (neg,ecting the obvious fact that the bike is pretty sweet)
Light ass wheelset
Race face bars&stem
Four inches of buttery smooth rear travel (now I know what I was missing):D

Not Sure yet:
cable disc brakes
175mm cranks
Manitou fork:confused:

The kicker:

All this in sasquatch size (that's my size) for a mere 27lb (1.5lbs less than the old ride, and yes, I weighed them both)

Anyway, here's the before pictures. (after pictures when i rip all that sram crap off the bike and maybe put on the discs will follow):

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~berkoben/pics/humba/staffstuff/SantaBike.jpg

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~berkoben/pics/humba/staffstuff/Santaframe.jpg

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~berkoben/pics/humba/staffstuff/SantaStemBars.jpg

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~berkoben/pics/humba/staffstuff/Santa90SLBL.jpg

[Toshi]

Sweet! I take it you bought the used one since you have all these parts I haven't seen before, no? It's no fair that you're making your bike lighter when you're already too fast on the climbs. Punk. :eek: :D

[WTGPhoben]

It's no fair that you're making your bike lighter when you're already too fast on the climbs. Punk.

If it makes you feel any better, I still can't jump.

anyway, I was riding back from the garage (with no seat) and I tried climbing the stairs on that bridge that goes over storrow... It's soo much easier (even though the X-vert is a crappy ass fork). Why didn't I think of this full suspension thing sooner?

[Quadari]

If it makes you feel any better, I still can't jump.

And if it makes you feel any better, I still can't do either! ;)
I can crash though, that I can do.

Anyway, the bike looks smooth. Can't wait to see it in person.


On another, unrelated topic: What do you guys think of HUMBA T-shirts. I doubt that we could get them made by Sat. but it would be sweet if we all had matching shirts. We would look like a team. :D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
On another, unrelated topic: What do you guys think of HUMBA T-shirts. I doubt that we could get them made by Sat. but it would be sweet if we all had matching shirts. We would look like a team. :D
Hmm, that's a good idea. One of you (probably you, Ari, since Keith is oversized :eek: :D ) can borrow my extra Ridemonkey t-shirt so that we can have some sort of uniform at Springfest.

[Quadari]

Then we'd be a bunch of :monkey:

Hey, Hey we're the :monkey: and we like to :monkey: around...

(Alright, I honestly just wanted an excuse to use :monkey: in a post.)

[WTGPhoben]

for a single use t-shirt that would look pretty cool, you could just buy a few tees that are the same color, Make a stencil that says HUMBA, and spraypaint the shirts. I have a friend who has a shirt with the WB Mason head on it that was done this way, and it looks pretty good.

[Quadari]

Guys,

If we're doing this thing on saturday we should probably start sending emails around letting people know.

Just a reminder.

Ari

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Guys,

If we're doing this thing on saturday we should probably start sending emails around letting people know.

Just a reminder.

Ari
k, I'll spam hro-open. :D

[Quadari]

Cool. I just sent one to my house mailing list.

[WTGPhoben]

consider adams house spammed

[Toshi]

Ari, Keith,

there's a new contest to enter:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17434

[BostonBullit]

Hey Toshi,

what's the current status over at the Fells? I don't ride there much anymore but have been thinking of hitting it on the hardtail after work during the week. Last season it was falling apart cause the MDC stopped NEMBA from doing loop maint :rolleyes:

did you guys ride the "authorized" section or another loc?

BostonBullit

[Toshi]

Originally posted by BostonBullit
Hey Toshi,

what's the current status over at the Fells? I don't ride there much anymore but have been thinking of hitting it on the hardtail after work during the week. Last season it was falling apart cause the MDC stopped NEMBA from doing loop maint :rolleyes:

did you guys ride the "authorized" section or another loc?

BostonBullit

Sorry about not responding to this -- the email notification never went out? Anyways, the trail condition at the Fells was pretty good. Mud wasn't a problem either on either of the rides, and the brush was kept in check. Some of the logs used to mark the trail's path were haphazardly placed, however.

[Toshi]

Two notes:

I've made a folder within "images" just for humba, so the two april rides (and now springfest) are within http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/ instead of just images/.

Springfest:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/springfest/

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/springfest/Images/8.jpg

[BostonBullit]

Hey Toshi, where can I get one of those cool orange chains? are they only available on Huffys? :D

rode over to the fells on the hardtail last sat to check things out, the loop definately needs some TLC :(

BostonBullit

[Quadari]

Toshi--

I forgot to ask you, what is that last picture on the Springfest page of? The one that's a bunch of papers standing up with a stapler next to it.

Ari

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Toshi--

I forgot to ask you, what is that last picture on the Springfest page of? The one that's a bunch of papers standing up with a stapler next to it.

Ari
:D it's the stack of handouts that we didn't hand out.

[WTGPhoben]

Am I the only one not getting email notification of posts anymore?

[Toshi]

Me neither. I just rechecked the box, tho, so maybe they'll start up again?

[Quadari]

email is down across the monkey

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=34

[WTGPhoben]

I just scored myself a brand new bomber Atom-Race 100 with the 170-205lb spring upgrade for $350 plus those mech disks. looks like that X-vert's lifespan is going to get cut a little short.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
I just scored myself a brand new bomber Atom-Race 100 with the 170-205lb spring upgrade for $350 plus those mech disks. looks like that X-vert's lifespan is going to get cut a little short.
Sweet. That's the coil one, no? You're treading on freeride territory with those 4 inches front and rear now... :eek: :D

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

Sweet. That's the coil one, no?

A. It is the coil one (you just can't beat the coil oil feel, and it got way better reviews than the X-fly for a weight of only .2 lbs more

You're treading on freeride territory with those 4 inches front and rear now... :eek: :D

Someday I'm going to grow some balls, and when I do I want to have that nice 4" cushion to keep them from getting crushed by my top tube when I miss my seat and land spread eagled on my bike

[Quadari]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
I just scored myself a brand new bomber Atom-Race 100 with the 170-205lb spring upgrade for $350 plus those mech disks. looks like that X-vert's lifespan is going to get cut a little short.
Pictures! We want pictures!
:p

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari

Pictures! We want pictures!

:p

Yeah, Keith, where are the pictures?

Off-topic, but here are my catches from last night. I'm still quite hungover.

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/events%20and%20concerts/hro%20concert - may 4, 2002/

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/events%20and%20concerts/hro%20concert - may 4, 2002/Images/16.jpg

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

Yeah, Keith, where are the pictures?

Off-topic, but here are my catches from last night. I'm still quite hungover.

http://roam147-156.student.harvard.edu/images/hro%20concert%205:3:2002/

If you want pictures, go to 'zoke website. The guy is ordering me a fork and selling it to me below cost for the trade with the brakes.

and you're not online yet so i couldn't see the pics, but I will soon enough.


BTW, are you going to ride today???? You KNOW you want to.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben


If you want pictures, go to 'zoke website. The guy is ordering me a fork and selling it to me below cost for the trade with the brakes.

and you're not online yet so i couldn't see the pics, but I will soon enough.


BTW, are you going to ride today???? You KNOW you want to.
I'm up now.

I'm not sure about riding -- I'm supposed to pick up a chess clock ~7:30 pm at Loker, and have a foosball tournament match at 8 pm. :D It's a hard knock life.

Oh yeah, nice job with the sound setup for the Collective last night. It was great, if a little loud in my room's courtyard-facing common room...

[WTGPhoben]

y'all missed a good ride, but the digicam was sorely missed

oh and BTW... verdict on the dualie::D (except in the top 2 or three gears when It bobs a bit, but you never use them on the trail anyway)

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
y'all missed a good ride, but the digicam was sorely missed

oh and BTW... verdict on the dualie::D (except in the top 2 or three gears when It bobs a bit, but you never use them on the trail anyway)
I'm glad to hear that it was good. It seems like everyone else has grown tired of me busting out the camera, tho... :rolleyes: :eek: so I'm going to leave it around the room for a few days. Let's go riding sometime this week, tho -- all I have is one paper and that physics ps to do.

[Quadari]

We'll never get tired of you busting out the camera, Toshi. ;)

Ahh...reading period: best/worst time of the year, all at the same time.

[Toshi]

Ah, the physics set has been licked. :nopity: Sort of. In any case, I'm going to ride out to the Fells tomorrow with Keirse -- either of you two going to come?

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi
Ah, the physics set has been licked. :nopity: Sort of. In any case, I'm going to ride out to the Fells tomorrow with Keirse -- either of you two going to come?

what not going to the review tomorrow? You're such a bad influence, now I want to go riding too.

oh and by the way, I just figured out how to get majordomo to sent out the whole humba list... we have 69 subscribers. I find that mildly amusing.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
what not going to the review tomorrow? You're such a bad influence, now I want to go riding too.

oh and by the way, I just figured out how to get majordomo to sent out the whole humba list... we have 69 subscribers. I find that mildly amusing.
the review was on Tuesday. Tomorrow is his spiel on his own research, no? 69? Good lawd, that's a lot of people who don't ride. Have you removed the handful of people who requested to be booted today?

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

Have you removed the handful of people who requested to be booted today?

yeah, the heathens have been booted. I personally liked the one who sent the admin request "could you take me off too, you guys send too many emails" Yeah because three a week is REAAAALLLLY high volume. ANyway, I hope the ride went well. I realized I had a bunch of stuff to do, and the weather looked kinda crappy so I decided to stay home.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
yeah, the heathens have been booted. I personally liked the one who sent the admin request "could you take me off too, you guys send too many emails" Yeah because three a week is REAAAALLLLY high volume. ANyway, I hope the ride went well. I realized I had a bunch of stuff to do, and the weather looked kinda crappy so I decided to stay home.
He used to go riding with us all the time. We'd egg him on and he'd try to jump things in a very unstylish fashion.

Here are the pics from today, tho:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/biking/trail/may%209,%202002%20Fells%20ride/

I managed to delete all the movies by mistake, so don't look too hard for them...

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi


Here are the pics from today, tho:

http://roam147-156.student.harvard.edu/images/humba/may%209,%202002%20Fells%20ride/

I managed to delete all the movies by mistake, so don't look too hard for them...

Looks like you guys took the res loop in reverse (the opposite of the way we took it last year when we sessioned that gnarly section), and the river is roarin! I'm lookin forward to hittin that this wknd. Unfortunately I won't have the new stuff for the bike till nexrt week.

...and it seems Quadari had a rough day as usual ;)

[Toshi]

We stopped for a while at that same place, tho. I finally made it through on my fourth try, with the aid of some hopping around.

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
Looks like you guys took the res loop in reverse (the opposite of the way we took it last year when we sessioned that gnarly section), and the river is roarin! I'm lookin forward to hittin that this wknd. Unfortunately I won't have the new stuff for the bike till nexrt week.

...and it seems Quadari had a rough day as usual ;)

[Quadari]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben

...and it seems Quadari had a rough day as usual ;)
As I always say (or rather, never say) you haven't really been riding if you aren't muddy and bloody when you come back. :D

btw: Toshi, I rode the bike to Mailboxes, Etc. The brakes work great. Also, the "go to first unread" was working for me. hmmm....

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
btw: Toshi, I rode the bike to Mailboxes, Etc. The brakes work great. Also, the "go to first unread" was working for me. hmmm....
It's even working when you hit the little arrow icon on the topic list pages? Odd.

Anyways, I leave you all with my lovely and likely incoherent final sentence to my paper, which still needs a page or three of stuffing in the middle:

This level of involvement is unattainable by the omniscient narrator, who through detached observation and imperative declarations is consciously used by Bely in Petersburg to quell confusion in the reader which stems from his use of multiple perspectives in the cubist style.

Snooty enough? :D

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

It's even working when you hit the little arrow icon on the topic list pages? Odd.

Anyways, I leave you all with my lovely and likely incoherent final sentence to my paper, which still needs a page or three of stuffing in the middle:


Snooty enough? :D

hehe... humanities are funny.

[Quadari]

Wow, that was perfect: Sounds high class and snooty, but means absolutely nothing. You gotta love core classes :thumb: (especially those for which I haven't cracked the book yet.)

[Quadari]

Did you end up riding this afternoon? How did it go? It was beautiful weather for it!

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Quadari
Keith-

Did you end up riding this afternoon? How did it go? It was beautiful weather for it!

Yeah i went out with keirse, and we had a grand oud time as usual.

[WTGPhoben]

I got it I got it I got it !!!!!


The bomber came in the mail today.... I don't know how I'm going to cut the steerer tonight, but I'll do it. It needs to be ridden tomorrow

[Toshi]

Cool. If you guys read this in time, let's make tomorrow's ride another 9 am one (rather than 10). I have rehearsals in the early afternoon that I can't really miss or be late for.

For anyone (ohio) reading this who might want to come: 9 am, in front of the Science Center. To the Fells we shall go, unless Keith feels like driving. :D

EDIT: the time has been pushed back until 2 pm. Don't show up at 9 am. :eek:

[WTGPhoben]

very nice use of the editing toshi. If you notice the timestamp on this post, you will understand why I'm glad the ride is at 2;)

g'night

[Quadari]

Sorry boys, won't be joining you today. (I know, you're horribly dissapointed; now you have to find someone else to crash for your enjoyment.:cool: )

Today is the annual duckling day parade! Yay for duckies.

Also, don't forget to call your mothers today.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Sorry boys, won't be joining you today. (I know, you're horribly dissapointed; now you have to find someone else to crash for your enjoyment.:cool: )

Today is the annual duckling day parade! Yay for duckies.

Also, don't forget to call your mothers today.

Ari
Bah, already sent an iCard. I'll try to get Keith to do the ledge drop and crash, and will definitely get pictures. :D

[Toshi]

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/biking/trail/may%2012,%202002%20Fells%20ride/

My pride and joy:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/biking/trail/may%2012,%202002%20Fells%20ride/MVI_0534.avi

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/biking/trail/may%2012,%202002%20Fells%20ride/MVI_0534.jpg

[Barbaton]

looks muddy. i ended up waiting 3 hours to walk over the new beacon hill bridge. next time, i guess

[Quadari]

mmm.....mudalicious.

Looks like you went pretty movie-heavy today, Toshi. Hope the camera didn't get too wet.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Barbaton
looks muddy. i ended up waiting 3 hours to walk over the new beacon hill bridge. next time, i guess
It was a bit wet, but the trails weren't that soft generally. I really don't know how all that mud got on my bike, honest. :D
Originally posted by Quadari
mmm.....mudalicious.

Looks like you went pretty movie-heavy today, Toshi. Hope the camera didn't get too wet.
Yeah, I had my camelbak's protective rain cover on, so it was too much of a hassle to break out the camera until we lingered at the ledge afterwards. Isn't it great that Keith is doing drops now? I'm so proud... :eek: :D

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi
Isn't it great that Keith is doing drops now? I'm so proud... :eek: :D

My favorite video is the one of him riding fast up to the ledge then stopping. Although i suppose I can't say much, at least he made it over in one piece.

Next time....maybe next time.

[Toshi]

New trail at Lynn:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=19067

Who wants to ride on Friday?

[splat]

Taken on Saturday !

[Toshi]

Originally posted by splat
Taken on Saturday !
Wow, that's an awesome photo... :eek:

[Quadari]

Originally posted by splat
Taken on Saturday !
:eek: wow.

That's at Lynn Woods?

[splat]

Originally posted by Quadari

:eek: wow.

That's at Lynn Woods?

No. Thats at the Nam

[WTGPhoben]

splat, that is truly an avesome photo

Toshi... I know some people have been having trouble viewing your vids on your site. so i coded a solution that lets you view them with an embedded player and still allows the thumbnails, etc. It's real rough (you're the CS guy) but you might be interested anyway.

http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~berkoben/pics/humba/video/05-12-02/index.html

[Quadari]

hmm.....I'm here at work on my PC, and I looked at the page in Opera and it doesn't seem to work. I tried it in IE and it works, but Opera didn't like it. The images show up, but nothing happens when you click on them and no movies show.

[Toshi]

Keith,

The movies don't work in Omniweb either.

[Barbaton]

don't you need plug-ins for those browsers to play that imbedded format?


-t

[WTGPhoben]

well... between the two of us I guess we have pages that work on everything, I guess Omniweb and opera don't like my sketchy javascript:(

My resoning for doing all this was that i like the idea of the thumbnails, but when I download the movies they don't work right unless i save them and open them in Quicktime, so I just embedded quicktime (obviously you have to have quicktime to use it though). Clearly it failed. Oh, well

[Barbaton]

incidentally, i got the skinny on how to register as a group with fas because of another group i'm involved with, if y'all are still interested.

I'm up for riding the new trail at lynn on fri, toshi.


-t

[WTGPhoben]

do tell on the whole fas thing

[Quadari]

As far as I've heard, in terms of becoming an "official" group, you need:
1) an advisor
2) a constitution
3) I think a list of officers or something of that nature.

I think that's it, but I'd love to hear what the exact details are.

This is totally gratutitous, but I've always wanted to use this in a post: :dancing:

[Toshi]

Keith, you just need to get a Mac. The movies work fine on them. :eek: :D

About Friday and Lynn: could you drive us in the afternoon, Keith? I have a morning final...

Finally, I like this smilie: :stupid:

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi
Keith, you just need to get a Mac. The movies work fine on them. :eek: :D

About Friday and Lynn: could you drive us in the afternoon, Keith? I have a morning final...

Finally, I like this smilie: :stupid:

First things frist... not gonna get a mac

second... I think I'm good to go on fri

third... I finally found the rest of the smilies:thumb:

[Quadari]

speaking of Macs, did you see the new XServes, Toshi? :thumb:

Pretty sweet.

[Toshi]

You all will be disgusted to hear that I am going through another bike swap. The Intense frame is up for sale, to be replaced by the black Evil Imperial that I ordered today. Ahhh.... :D

Here's how it will look, sort of (substitute my dual crown fork for the one on the pictured bike): http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12495

Another: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12414

EDIT: since you guys have lovely 10 base T going to your dorm rooms, I'll add some real pics:

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7563.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7562.jpg

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
speaking of Macs, did you see the new XServes, Toshi? :thumb:

Pretty sweet.
They do look awesome. And DDR must be coming soon for the regular desktops then... :rolleyes:

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi
You all will be disgusted to hear that I am going through another bike swap. The Intense frame is up for sale, to be replaced by the black Evil Imperial that I ordered today. Ahhh.... :D


Again?!?:rolleyes:

And if I see this right, does that mean that you're giving up on the dualie and going with the dirt-jumper punk look?

You're a wild-man Toshi.:blah:

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi
[B]You all will be disgusted to hear that I am going through another bike swap. The Intense frame is up for sale, to be replaced by the black Evil Imperial that I ordered today. Ahhh.... :D


Just to spite you, I'm going to buy your intense under a false name and then ride it every time we hit the trail... but you will never be able to touch it again :p :D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
Just to spite you, I'm going to buy your intense under a false name and then ride it every time we hit the trail... but you will never be able to touch it again :p :D
oh man, I'd love to see your lanky ass trying to ride my medium Intense. haha :D :D :D

Originally posted by Quadari
Again?!?:rolleyes:

And if I see this right, does that mean that you're giving up on the dualie and going with the dirt-jumper punk look?

You're a wild-man Toshi.:blah:
Well, no one has expressed interest in the Intense yet (Keith, didn't your buddy who went riding with us want it? how much?), so it might live in my room next year. It wouldn't be bad at all, swapping a fork and wheelset between two otherwise built-up frames, no... :D

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

Well, no one has expressed interest in the Intense yet

You could "donate it" to the general HUMBA holdings....:D

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

It wouldn't be bad at all, swapping a fork and wheelset between two otherwise built-up frames, no... :D

Are you planning on selling all the components off the Intense also (other than the fork)?

[Toshi]

I could donate it to Kei... er, I mean, humba. But I won't. :eek: :D

Most of the components currently on the Intense will migrate to the new frame. Did you see the pics that I added a few posts up, btw? That's my fork! Anyways, the only new things I'll need to buy to make two fully-rideable bikes are a set of derailleurs, and a wheel build for the bent wheel lying around my room. But I don't think I'll do that -- I'll just shelve the Intense until someone wants it.

[Quadari]

3 Down, 2 to go.

Bring it on exams! :sneaky:

[Toshi]

Dang, it's still 0 down, 4 to go for me. :( Oh well. Anyone want to go out to the Framingham cinema for Episode II after finals, tho?

[WTGPhoben]

Instead of studying I've been surfing the buy/sell pages... and I'm down $463.50 after buying the fork, a pair of XTR brake levers (which rock), and XTR rear shifter (I'm going 9spd on the superlight), and the beater frame.

All I need now is a pair of brakes, 9spd cass and chain, and the handle to replace the broken one on my old XT shiftbrake combos and I'll have two complete bikes (but I get the feeling I'm gonig to have to drop some more cash to get another reverse spring rear der (I'm just too used to it now) and to replace the XTR bottom bracket on the superlight (when I pulled it out of the old bike I found out the cups were pitted)

Arrgh... it never ends.

[Toshi]

That's too bad -- this reading/exam period is enriching me. Assuming that one of the three buyers bites on the Intense, I'm going to be up about six large over the last few weeks, and will have a new bike to play on. Ooh!

[Quadari]

Dang, it's still 0 down, 4 to go for me.

Not totally true Toshi, you finished 93r yesterday! (and yes, I was counting that ;))

Arrgh... it never ends.

This is why we need sponsorship! Either that, or getting the road team to buy stuff for us.

[Quadari]

I also wanted to point out that Keith and I are now "Advanced Riders." Very exiting.:oink:

[WTGPhoben]

we're so antisocial... we all live within 2min walk of each other yet we sit at our computers talking on a message board... that's worse than IM for crissakes.

[Barbaton]

is there a plan re tomorrow? I just bought a new ring and I'll go outside in a sec and rehabilitate my bike. I can drive but can only fit maybe 2 bikes in my trunk.

[Toshi]

Keith may be going tomorrow, but both Keirse and I have an afternoon final...

Update on the Intense: sold for $1350. So I'm taking a loss, but at least it won't languish in my room forever. :D

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi
Keith may be going tomorrow, but both Keirse and I have an afternoon final...

Update on the Intense: sold for $1350. So I'm taking a loss, but at least it won't languish in my room forever. :D

patience is a virtue grasshopper...

BTW, I'll update on the ride tomorrow... I'm guessing something in the fells, cuz I got lots of study to take care of (this also means that in theory Toshi and keirse can come too.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
patience is a virtue grasshopper...

BTW, I'll update on the ride tomorrow... I'm guessing something in the fells, cuz I got lots of study to take care of (this also means that in theory Toshi and keirse can come too.
Ah, I can't go even if it's late. Dinner plans. :eek: (actually, it's just a friend's birthday; and Keirse will probably go, too.)

[WTGPhoben]

I think the ride is off... I just found out i have to master a demo tape for FinkFankFunk, but on the upside I think I might be able to score some old school LX brakes, that busted lever (actually just a pair of XT levers, I gave up on finding the part and I'm just going to cannibalize the levers I buy), and a pair of plartforms (so I can learn to jump like a real man) for $45. And i sold that XTR der I had in my parts bin for a year for $45, so I break even -shipping. yay.... still haven't studied too much though.

[Barbaton]

too bad. i was looking forward to lynn. some other time. :)

[Toshi]

2 hours til I die :eek:

[Quadari]

Springfest Pics.

A few (not many) that I just got back from Snapfish are on my page. Including a pretty good one of Toshi doing a wheelie.

http://ariel.ath.cx/pictures/Springfest/

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Springfest Pics.

A few (not many) that I just got back from Snapfish are on my page. Including a pretty good one of Toshi doing a wheelie.

http://ariel.ath.cx/pictures/Springfest/
Cool. I was hopping on the rear wheel, just for the record. Are you coming to the banquet tomorrow, btw?

http://ariel.ath.cx/pictures/Springfest/indexfiles/ToshiWheelie.jpg.jpg

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

Cool. I was hopping on the rear wheel, just for the record. Are you coming to the banquet tomorrow, btw?

Wheelie...hopping, whichever. All things I can't do :rolleyes:

I am most certainly going to the banquet. mmmm....chinese food.:dancing:

[Barbaton]

anyone up for an afternoon ride tomorrow?

[Toshi]

I have no bike now. :rolleyes:

[Quadari]

When do you become evil?:devil:

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
When do you become evil?:devil:
Sometime around the end of the month, methinks. Luckily, I have finals to occupy me in the meantime. :D (Wed-Thurs-Fri :( )

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

Luckily, I have finals to occupy me in the meantime. :D (Wed-Thurs-Fri :( )

I feel that... how's that physics treatin ya?

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
I feel that... how's that physics treatin ya?
I'm going to start tomorrow. :eek:

Check out this, tho: http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/Intense/

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/parts%20for%20sale/dismantling%20the%20Intense/Images/2.jpg

[Quadari]

:(

So sad. Bye bye Mr. Intense.

[WTGPhoben]

wow, your bike is just a pile of spare parts... That's "intense"

:D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
wow, your bike is just a pile of spare parts... That's "intense"

:D
Unoriginal. Boo. :eek: :D

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

Unoriginal. Boo. :eek: :D

no sense of humor. I think it's because you're "evil":devil: :p

[Quadari]

And speaking of unoriginality, I don't think you're :devil: enough. You're quasi-:devil:. You're the diet-coke of :devil:: Just one calorie, not :devil: enough.

[Toshi]

I really need to start studying. Damn. Anyways, here are some new pics:

foosball (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/miscellaneous/foosball/)

hangin' out at wjh (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/events%20and%20concerts/wjh/)

I think I need new gloves:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/events%20and%20concerts/wjh/Images/8.jpg

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

I think I need new gloves:


You could try selling them :D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
You could try selling them :D
Have I mentioned recently that I love my camera? I spent five hours at work, and did nothing except arm wrestle, listen to Mahler 5/sleep, and play with the camera.

About selling the gloves: it's funny that you suggest that, since back in high school, I sold my riding buddy a defective tire. (Its knobs were pulling off) He didn't mind, tho. :eek: :D

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

back in high school, I sold my riding buddy a defective tire.

Yeah, just don't try pulling that with us! :angry:

;)

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Yeah, just don't try pulling that with us! :angry:

;)
Hey, why do you have to be raggin' me on hro-open? Huh? :eek: :D

I'm on the verge of writing a "hey, let's make next year really awesome musically" type message for that audience, btw.

[WTGPhoben]

yeah so one time I rode my bike to HRO... then I realized HRo had nothing to do with biking.:p :mad: :D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
yeah so one time I rode my bike to HRO... then I realized HRo had nothing to do with biking.:p :mad: :D
This is all you're going to be hearing from me in the next few weeks, while I'm bikeless. :eek:

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

I'm on the verge of writing a "hey, let's make next year really awesome musically" type message for that audience, btw.

I think you should!

and yes, biking does have to do with HRO. I ride my bike to HRO.

[Toshi]

Keith,

You have to ride with a paper bag over your bike if you take the K2 out to play. :eek: :D

[Toshi]

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/usa%20cycling%20trials%20camp%20-%20summer%202000/Images/1.jpg

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/mammoth%20-%20summer%202000/Images/1.jpg

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/usa%20cycling%20trials%20camp%20-%20summer%202000/Images/0.jpg

[Quadari]

My favorite is the one of you with the gas can. What's the story with that one?

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
My favorite is the one of you with the gas can. What's the story with that one?
Driving home from Mammoth, I pushed the ol' Maxima a bit too hard, and ran her clean out of gas. At night. Along highway 395. We (Ruben and me (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/miscellaneous/sentimental/ruben_and_me.jpeg), or Ruben and I in the context of the sentence) feared that it would be 20 or miles to the next gas station, and it was quite the sleepless night inside our tent -- we camped the whole trip -- with the big rigs roaring by. Come next morning, we took off riding along the highway, and found a gas station only 3 miles away. Stupid, stupid, stupid. :D

Evil grows imminent:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/Evil/Images/0.jpg

[Barbaton]

must...ride...

anyone want to go this afternoon?

[WTGPhoben]

sorry, dude... school's got me grounded till friday at noon, and then I got some serious movin to do, but I think there might be some riding to be done on sunday, either that or rebuilding the bike a little bit (I'm doing s 9spd upgrade)

Hey, toshi: nice photoshop work... don't want us to see how much you shelled out for your evil friend?

[WTGPhoben]

I take that back... It says right on there...

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
I take that back... It says right on there...
haha, I just didn't want to divulge how much of a discount they gave me off of list.

[Quadari]

In 4.5 hours or less, I will be done!!!! :dancing:

Then I have hardcore packing to do. :( But, not thinking about that yet.

Are you guys all gonna be here for the summer? I know Toshi is...

[Barbaton]

indeedilly do. unless i miraculously figure out a way to get to moab. :D

[Toshi]

Moab is too hot. Believe me. :D

Now, after playing basketball in the sun and using up the last bit of my energy that finals didn't suck out of me, I feel great. :D Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh, to be done

[Toshi]

Ok guys, I'm packing up my computer in a few minutes. It will be back up on the network around June 20th. My page of friends (http://www.people.fas.harvard.edu/~tjclark/friends/) is going to be mirrored on my fas account, but all biking content will be unavailable (don't have enough room for it, thanks to all those movies).

[Toshi]

Dang, ridemonkey is really dead this holiday weekend. 24 people online, a new low.

[Barbaton]

everyone's probably out ridin

:monkey:

[Toshi]

Naw, I bet they're sitting around a table, eating sausage and bacon. :eek:

[Toshi]

I'm out of here in a few hours. Ari: I'll be around my room until 10:30 or so, so if you swing by you can pick up Return to Castle Wolfenstein. Bye all.

[WTGPhoben]

the bomber is going back to marzocchi for repair... hopefully they can make it all better.

[Quadari]

What was wrong with it?

[WTGPhoben]

it developed some nasty sticktion:(

btw, are you around to ride in the next couple weeks?

[Quadari]

I most certainly am around. I'm headed home on the 7th and will be home for a week, but other than that I'm here in jolly old cambridge!

I'd love to ride. This weekend?

[Toshi]

Hi Ari!

I got you some new grips, btw. They're short lock-ons, so your levers won't have to be all crammed up against the stem. I walked into The Downhill Zone in the u district here in Seattle, and walked out much poorer, not knowing what happened. :eek: :D

[Barbaton]

say, toshi, when you getting back to town?

-t

[Toshi]

I'll be back on the 17th/18th.

[WTGPhoben]

the no2 bike is completed (minus the paint job for now), and I put down 70 mi on (no, I'm not just yankin your chain) PAVEMENT. I don't think I'll be moving my legs for a bit. I might ride tomorrow mornin' if anyone's interested. It'll be a slow one.

[Toshi]

Oh yeah? Well I haven't left the house all day. :eek: :D

Anyways, here is a picture of the grips to amuse you all as I work through 200+ images from England to get a web page ready:

[Barbaton]

hey guys,

just noticed that performance bike is having a sale on XTR components. Also pedals. in case you need anything...


-t

[Barbaton]

and...for those of you with old frames sitting around:

http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/02/frames/

Cannondale is doing a trade-in deal...


-t

[Toshi]

I have posted pics from the MIT orchestra tour of England (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/england/) . I need a bike.

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/trips/england/concorde.jpg

[Barbaton]

may God strike down all thieves of bicycles.

well, I suppose it was inevitable: my bike disappeared from rack outside my work on church st some time between 4 and 7 this afternoon.

if anybody sees someone riding a blue cannondale f700 that isn't me, beat them severely please.

now to find the homeowner's insurance file.

[WTGPhoben]

dude, that blows....

guess you're getting that new bike after all, eh?

[WTGPhoben]

btw, toshi... who's the cutie?;)

[Toshi]

I feel your pain, Thad. Make sure to pick up a replacement ride soon, tho -- it seems like the fall and spring seasons during the year are only a month long, so we must ride now. (This from the guy whose only bike is in a box in his garage.)

Keith: whatcha talking about? That's a Concorde.

[Toshi]

Thad, maybe you should buy ohio's old STS thermoplastic bike:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21820

It looks to be a good deal, if you're into that funky plastic business.

[Barbaton]

hmmm. should I be? i don't know anything about the funky plastic

[Toshi]

They were very cool. But heavy. And they creak a bit. But they're still awesome. ohio (Marc) lives nearby and rides by the Science Center each day, so if you are interested you guys could probably meet in person...

[Toshi]

The Evil finally arrived today!

:D

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic32234.jpg

[WTGPhoben]

I bet it weighs 200 lbs. those gussets are bigger than my whole bike:D

[Toshi]

Haha, right; actually, I think it is going to build up to be around 34 lbs with the Super T, 32ish with a Z1... :D Of course, it remains to be seen whether I can pedal the short but long beast at all -- I'm not sure if I'll be able to get proper leg extension even with a 360 mm post. :eek:

[Quadari]

Hey guys! I'm back in action here in MA. To bad the weather is so crappy. I was looking forward to doing some riding this weekend, but it looks like the only place I'm going to be riding to is Star Market.

[WTGPhoben]

It's not rainin. that means ridin can be done. I think I'm going out this afternoon. email me.

[WTGPhoben]

ok, so last time it rained. freakin rain. every freakin day!!! Anyway, I wanna go out after work tomorrow. anyone in? email or post.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Toshi
I'll be back on the 17th/18th.
I'm back. New domain name: http://tjclark.ath.cx/

No bike yet => sad Toshi.

Here's how I moved most of my stuff:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/moving%20to%20dewolfe/Images/0.jpg

[Toshi]

Yesterday I pulled a bonehead move -- instead of chopping the spokes to remove the hub of the wheel with the huge flat spot, I cut the spokes on my (formerly) good rear wheel. :eek: :rolleyes: :( Oh well.

[Quadari]

Toshi-

Instead of selling the Intense and getting the Evil, you should have kept the Intense and gotten this fork instead:

http://members.cox.net/markw3/images/funkyfork.jpg

:D

[Toshi]

Are you saying you like that, er, "FreeCross" more than my beautiful Super T? :eek: :D

[Toshi]

All that's missing now is the frame. :D Check out the ginormous seat and seatposts:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/parts%20for%20sale/parts.jpg

[WTGPhoben]

still gonna burn you.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
still gonna burn you.
Were you talking to someone? :rolleyes: :eek: :D

[Toshi]

Thad, any updates on the bike search, or has your cdale been recovered?

Friday morning edit: go Brasil! Also, a cheer for road bikes which get me to the quad and back to watch Brasil (you have to dig the huge flat pedals, no? :D ):

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/Klein/Images/3.jpg

[Quadari]

Speaking of soccer. How about that USA-Ger game. It was a darn close one!

[Toshi]

'twas a nice ride today, Ari. :D Keith/Thad, are you aware that he's eyeing road bikes? The dark side is calling him... :eek: in other news, were it not for the fact that Belmont Wheelworks won't be giving me my breaks back until Tuesday, the Evil could potentially be rideable tomorrow afternoon. :D :D :D I think i have to learn how to ride smoothly (ie, sans brakes) in the next couple of days...

edit: work in progress:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/Evil/Images/6.jpg

[Quadari]

I certainly am eyeing some road bikes. I think I may take this afternoon and go eye some more road bikes.

so liiiight....

[Toshi]

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes%20and%20parts/current%20stable/Images/5.jpg

Oh yeah, Ari and I went out to Landry's in Framingham today:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/trip%20to%20Landry's/

:D

[WTGPhoben]

toshi, nice form on that wall ;) . (not that I'd know)
When do I get to ride with this legend (by legend I mean the bike) in person?? What are you and ari doing monday after work?

I got the bomber back today, and I added about 10cm of oil to make it feel super progressive. It feels pretty good, but It needs some braking in (which should be done on monday after work).

let me know if you're in.

[Quadari]

Hey...I think the photographer deserves some credit for that classic photo. :D

I must say, the evil was pretty darn nice. Eye catching too. All the guys at the shop were coming over to talk about it.

I might be up for a monday evening ride. Plus I want to see Toshi negotiate the Fells on the Evil.

[Toshi]

I don't think I'll have any work to speak of until mid-July, so I'm game for riding Monday, Tuesday, whenever. My knees may break off, tho, unless I can figure out how to get a semi-normal riding position out of the Evil. It's fun, but with the seat down low I feel like I'm a circus freak, and with the seat high I have to stretch for the bars (thanks to the 55 degree seat tube).

[Barbaton]

hi guys,

[Barbaton]

oops. that last didn't work.

hi guys,

just got back into town. I was in Texas last week. Still no word on the bike. Calling insurance company tomorrow.


Sadly, the road bike is my only remaining option until i get this sorted out. :D :devil:



T

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi
...It's fun, but with the seat down low I feel like I'm a circus freak, and with the seat high I have to stretch for the bars (thanks to the 55 degree seat tube)...

hehe... circus freak. I was going to suggest just sitting on the seat tube because the angle was so slack, but I thought that would be mean. Of course, now that you said something...

Anyway. I'm thinking of meeting people in the harvard vicinity in the 5:15 vicinity. I'l give y'all the hard details on monday during the day.

Thad: If you want to ride, I can throw some knobbies on my beater. It's got the maitou fork on it now, and It's a pretty sweet ride. If you were running SPDs before, I got a pair I can throw on too.

[Barbaton]

Kieth, that'd be great i actually have an extra pair of the CODA pedals I was using that I can bring along.


also, i may be driving to wheelworks at some point this afternoon if anyone wants/needs to come with...


T

[Toshi]

Verdicts and results from tonights mini-urban ride:

The Evil is much easier to manual than any of the bikes I've had as of yet, including the Planet X Bommer. However, I still suck at them: 3 good manuals out of countless attempts. Verdict: rider incompetence

Doing that cool turn-out from rolling backwards is hard with double crown forks. The Super T must go. 3 good turn-outs (what are they called anyways?) out of not quite so many attempts. Verdict: rider error

Bunnyhopping is all good on the beastie. I cleared the medium height section of the chain fence along Mt. Auburn on my first try. Verdict: thumbs up all around

I gave the bike a taste of climbing by attempting to scale the concrete barrier alongside the stairs at the athletic complex (the same one that Keirse and I do nose wheelies down). I felt as if I was going to fall straight backwards on my head, and didn't make it up. Verdict: will postpone until tomorrow

Finally, the wardrobe: I wore my infamous Pinkbike "I love seven inches in the rear" shirt, my moto full face, arm guards, shin guards, and Vans. I looked like a huge dork, and was sweating like one as well. For tomorrow I think the shin guards will go, but I'll stick with the arm and head protection (altho I do have a normal helmet... hmm) for tomorrows ride. Verdict: style, protection, comfort, where art thou? Not at Harvard :eek: :D

[Quadari]

How was your guys' ride this evening? Did you survive the fells on the Evil, Toshi?

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari

How was your guys' ride this evening? Did you survive the fells on the Evil, Toshi?

Here's the page for today's ride (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/index.html).

Casualties from tonight's ride include Keith's front wheel (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/10.jpg), fork, and skull (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/2.jpg), and my seatpost. Keith ate it big time (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/1.jpg) on the drop after eyeing it up (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/0.jpg) as he always does.

Keith's high school friend, Dave (I think -- correct me if I'm wrong here, Keith) also did the drop (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/5.jpg). Make sure to note of his fork and chain. :eek:

I fell on the drop, too: immediately after this picture (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/6.jpg) was taken, I sat down with some force. That's what I get for trying (and later succeeding) to pedal kick the drop on the Evil (http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Movies/MVI_1232.AVI) (movie). My seatpost is listed as a casualty because it bent during the ride, probably because of the Evil's crazy 55 degree seat tube angle. I'm calling Hurricane up tomorrow in hopes of getting it warrantied, and I'll be quite peeved if they don't hook me up, since this was the first real ride on it.

Anyways, all of the pics are pretty good from today, mainly thanks to the interesting subject matter (namely Keith's tacoed front wheel :D ). Enjoy.

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/7.jpg

[Quadari]

Wow...looks like a good time all around.

Keith- welcome to the ranks of those who taco-ed their wheel at the fells. ;)

[WTGPhoben]

Keith- welcome to the ranks of those who taco-ed their wheel at the fells.

ha... ha.... ha.

[narlus]

ouch. that photo of keith, fork pointing downward, foot out of the pedal and going forward, doesn't bode well for the immediate future.

glad to hear that you didn't really wrack yerself.

toshi, based on the photo (http://140.247.135.42/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/6.jpg) of the drop you posted, you'd best hope that hurricane doesn't see it. if you sat on any post hard from that landing, none would likely survive. just too great of a moment arm (length of exposed post and seat tube angle of the imperial) for anything to survive that. you're probably lucky that it didn't fracture and pierce yr tender bits... :eek:

good luck w/ the warranty though, and have fun w/ the bike. i can't wait to try peter's at some point.

[Toshi]

It's too bad that Keith is so freakishly tall that the photog (me) chopped his head off. :eek:

The funny thing about the pic that you mention is that the seatpost was high only because it had already bent in a strictly-xc ride around the NEMBA loop, and I couldn't lower it.

Additions: another item of note is that by "sitting down with some force" when I crashed I meant that I sat down on the ground :eek: , not the seatpost. I learned at an early age that seats are not friendly to land on from any height. :D Also, for my hahhhvahd friends who only read this thread, here is a link to my whining about my bent (and stuck) seatpost: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23270
Originally posted by narlus
ouch. that photo of keith, fork pointing downward, foot out of the pedal and going forward, doesn't bode well for the immediate future.

glad to hear that you didn't really wrack yerself.

toshi, based on the photo (http://140.247.135.42/images/humba/june%2025,%202002%20Fells%20ride/Images/6.jpg) of the drop you posted, you'd best hope that hurricane doesn't see it. if you sat on any post hard from that landing, none would likely survive. just too great of a moment arm (length of exposed post and seat tube angle of the imperial) for anything to survive that. you're probably lucky that it didn't fracture and pierce yr tender bits... :eek:

good luck w/ the warranty though, and have fun w/ the bike. i can't wait to try peter's at some point.

[Toshi]

Keith and I swapped forks for fun this afternoon. The funny thing is that both of our bikes look reasonably normal dressed in the others' clothes, and we both we riding better than usual... :eek:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/bikes and parts/Evil/Images/23.jpg

[Toshi]

Anyone up for a Fells ride on Thursday? Dave Weagle (obiwan-f1moto here) of Evil Bikes fame may make an appearance.

[Quadari]

I could probably do for one. it's been almost a week since I was last out there...

[Barbaton]

sure. if I can borrow kieth's ginormous bike again...


-T

[Toshi]

Keith and I went dirt jumping today. No one died, and we met a guy named Mike, who rides a Balfa Minuteman and drops 8 ft. to flat on occasion. :eek: Anyways, here are the pics (and movies :D ): http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2026,%202002%20dirt%20jumping/

(I switched from 50 ISO to 800 in the middle of shooting, and you can really tell. Next time I'll use moderation, maybe a 200 or 400, to avoid the graininess of 800 while retaining some of the richness of 50. Just in case anyone cares ;) .)

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/june%2026,%202002%20dirt%20jumping/Images/21.jpg

[Quadari]

...and you guys kept your forks flipped.

How does the double crown feel, Keith?

Damn air conditioning...it's not working in DeWolfe for some reason. Worst day possible to stop working.

[Quadari]

Good Idea to go riding with the Rage people! Are we going to drive over there or ride? Where/when do you guys want to meet?

[Toshi]

So it looks as if I'm either going to sell the Evil or somehow get my hands on a normal xc bike by other means:

From Dave Weagle (Evil Bikes engineer):

If you really feel that you need to run the post with more than 5-6 inches (and thats pushing it) exposed (making a 19 inch frame) I suggest that you look into selling your Imperial and picking up something with a longer seat tube.

:eek: :(

Update: I think I'm going to keep it, but strip it down a bit to make it a dj/urban-specific bike (ie, cheap rigid fork w/disc tabs, single ring/guide). Time to see if JOJO's xc bike is still up for grabs... :rolleyes:

[Barbaton]

I hope someone sees this before you head out...

don't think I can ride tonight. have fun anyway.


T

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Barbaton
I hope someone sees this before you head out...

don't think I can ride tonight. have fun anyway.


T
No worries, I don't think anyone of us went tonight.

Addition: another item of note is that my beloved camera is back at Canon for warranty work. So don't go riding anytime soon. :eek: ;)

I think this image is appropriate for the weather:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/miscellaneous/summer%20in%20cambridge/Images/8.jpg

[Toshi]

Here's something funny: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=299159

[Quadari]

bed time for me.

I have to get up early because I have.....dun dun dun...JURY DUTY tomorrow morning.

Sounds like fun, no?

[Toshi]

For those curious, here is the paper trail of my conversation with Dave Weagle about the proper use of the Imperial:

Hi again,

The extension of the seatpost in the pictures is a bit deceiving: the post
was stuck at that level because it had bent while I was running it higher
(at the minimum insert line, about 2 inches further out than in the picture
of the post in the frame) and had stupidly tried to lower it before doing
the ledge near Governor's Road in the Fells. Ideally, I would run the seat
higher, however, since I wasn't getting proper leg extension even then. The
12 inch figure came from my napkin calculations of where the minimum insert
line would be on a 410 mm Thomson, and I kept it just to make the length
component of ft.-lbs. cancel out.

As a solution, I'm going to keep the frame (whew!), but build it up as a
pure trials/urban/dj rig: rigid fork, single ring guide (I called John
P/Reggie yesterday and changed my long-standing DRS order to a SRS). For xc,
I'll save up a bit, and get one of those newfangled Hollowpoints. I hear the
guy who designed the 2003s is pretty sharp. ;-)

-Toshi

on 6/28/02 8:50 AM, Evil Bikes Product Support at support@evilbikes.com
wrote:

> Hi Toshi,
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> WAIT! I just looked at the pictures, that seatpost wasn't out 12 inches! What
> were you talking about? At the extension you have there, the bike should be
> totally fine, I run mine just a tad lower. Give it a shot with the stronger
> post, I think you will be all set. It looks like you were running it as i
> described before basically. (about 6 inches out)
>
> It is the mystical convergence that you are looking for Toshi, it is! :)
>
> I have ridden a Compo, but I did not like the geometry at all. thats just me
> though.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toshi Clark [mailto:tjclark@fas.harvard.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:30 AM
> To: Evil Bikes Product Support
> Subject: Re: Imperials and bending seatposts
>
> Ok. Please help me sell this frame before I scratch it up any more.
>
> Why I went for the Evil was because I thought it was the mystical convergence
> frame that could take my Super T, go dirt jumping with me, handle my
> sport-level trials moves, and be a trailbike (like my old Intense). With this
> in mind, I'm not too keen on the Compo concept of steep angles, but maybe
> it'll work. You've ridden one?
>
> Finally, if you try the pictures now, they'll work. (They didn't this morning
> when you were writing your email because I hadn't woken up and turned my
> computer on.)
>
> on 6/27/02 7:34 AM, Evil Bikes Product Support at support@evilbikes.com
> wrote:
>
>> I don't think that you are going to be able to run this seatpost at "1 foot!"
>> (thats a lot on any bike) of extension from the frame. If you do crash, the
>> post will almost undoubtedly bend, not to mention that you will be putting
>> huge loads into your frame. If you really feel that you need to run the post
>> with more than 5-6 inches (and thats pushing it) exposed (making a 19 inch
>> frame) I suggest that you look into selling your Imperial and picking up
>> something with a longer seat tube. The Imperial is a 13" frame. It sounds
>> like you might be looking for a Planet-X Compo or Surly Instigator. Both come
>> in taller sizes , but are stronger than an XC bike. The Compo has some odd
>> geometry, so it might be something that you would want to ride first. Maybe a
>> P3 could work for you too. If you would like to sell your frame, we can help
>> you out. If you do run the bike with a lot of seat tube exposed, make sure
>> you have as much insertion as possible. This will help reduce loads on the
>> frame.
>>
>> I couldn't see the pictures, for some reason they don't work.
>>
>> I am almost positive that I am going to the fells tonight, but don't know
>> what time. If I come home before we take off ill drop you a line and let you
>> know, OK?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Toshi Clark [mailto:tjclark@fas.harvard.edu]
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:08 AM
>> To: Evil Bikes Product Support
>> Subject: Re: Imperials and bending seatposts
>>
>> As a possible solution, I ordered up a really long Thomson (410 mm). You
>> probably know this, since it's a popular post that you use, but their website
>> says it is "integral-machined from one single piece of high strength 7000
>> series aluminum." On the Hurricane which I bent the min insert line was about
>> 4 inches from the end. On the Thomson, I'll probably have enough length that
>> I'll run it with perhaps 5 inches inserted when I'm seeking proper leg
>> extension.
>>
>> Here are two pics, in the frame and out, and my whiny thread on Ridemonkey
>> when it became stuck:
>>
>> http://140.247.135.42/images/humba/bent-seatpost.jpg
>> http://140.247.135.42/images/humba/bent-seatpost2.jpg
>> http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23270
>>
>> One interesting note is that Thomson claims that "The tube will start to
>> yield and bend at the seat tube clamp at about 250 foot-lbs of torque." Since
>> I weigh about a buck seventy and the seatpost is angled at 55 degrees or so,
>> I figure the Thomson will take about a ~2.5 g beating before it bends ((250
>> lbs./ft.) / (1 ft. * Cos [55])) / (170 lbs.) assuming 1 ft. of exposed
>> seatpost at the max. You've done lots of testing and analysis, right? Is this
>> a load that is regularly seen at the seat during xc?
>>
>> Please let me know if you're going to ride the Fells on Thursday. My humba
>> (Harvard Uni. mountain bike association) crew on campus is planning on doing
>> a loop then.
>>
>> on 6/26/02 10:20 AM, Evil Bikes Product Support at support@evilbikes.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, no doubt, you CAN run the post at some length, and the frame wont break,
>>> but the seatpost, thats a different story. You will put a lot of leverage on
>>> that badboy with it extended out super far, and some seatposts cant handle
>>> it. (I consider 19 inch effective to be very long, especially for a frame
>>> that size) You will most likely continue to have seatpost bending issues
>>> with the post extended past 5 inches out of the top of the seat tube. Maybe
>>> you can give it a try with the post at the 5 inch mark and see what you
>>> think?
>>>
>>> What material is the seatpost?
>>>
>>> How far does the minimum insertion line extend the post out of the seat
>>> tube?
>>>
>>> Let me know how it works out. I'd love to hook up for a ride sometime. I
>>> might be Fells ing it on Thursday actually.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Toshi Clark [mailto:tjclark@fas.harvard.edu]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:07 AM
>>> To: Evil Bikes Product Support
>>> Subject: Re: Imperials and bending seatposts
>>>
>>> I plan on using the Imperial for all of the riding I do, except for road.
>>> That's a mix of urban, dj, and, yes, xc. I just ordered a Thomson and am
>>> going to suck it up if it bends again. The seat positioning isn't all that
>>> awful, actually, even with long posts, especially since I'm used to the laid
>>> back geometry of my Intense Uzzi SLX. Anyways, I thought I'd dig up
>>> something you wrote way back on October 16th of last year (in "RE: Imperial,
>>> Bashguards, Availability"), with emphasis on "you can put a long seat post
>>> on it" ;-) :
>>>
>>>> You can put a long seat post on it, and it should give some long geometry
>>>> in front, if you run the chainstays in XC length (they are adjustable
>>>> between 14.9 and 17 inches), you should have no problems climbing whatever
>>>> you need to if you run a z-1.
>>>
>>> I bent my Hurricane 100 just from the normal pressure of sitting down during
>>> a loop around the Fells. Of course, I had it extended about 30 cm, all the
>>> way to the min. insert line. Hurricane is replacing it for free, and I've
>>> only heard of a Thomson bending once, so all is good.
>>>
>>> on 6/26/02 8:32 AM, Evil Bikes Product Support at support@evilbikes.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I do not recommend running the seatpost more than 5 inches out of the top
>>>> of the seat tube. It wasn't designed for XC use (as you will notice you get
>>>> a long TT and less efficient positioning for climbing [unless you are in
>>>> the 17 inch position] at anything over a 18 inch effective seat tube), so
>>>> you probably shouldn't use it at extended lengths if you can do it. I have
>>>> always used Thomson or Syncros on mine, and they have worked out for me,
>>>> but i only run the seatpost at 3-4 inches out.
>>>>
>>>> How did you bend yours? What length did you have it out to?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Toshi Clark [mailto:tjclark@fas.harvard.edu]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:07 AM
>>>> To: support@evilbikes.com
>>>> Subject: Imperials and bending seatposts
>>>>
>>>> Just as a heads up, you might have some people coming to you with bent
>>>> seatposts. I am no bruiser, and managed to bend a Hurricane 100 on my first
>>>> trail ride on the Imperial. It was inserted right at the minimum insertion
>>>> line, and bent backwards thanks to your slack seat tube design. Anyways, to
>>>> my point: what seatpost might be stronger than the Hurricane? Thompson?
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Barbaton]

hehe. Kathy just got one of those little cards.


-t


Originally posted by Quadari
bed time for me.

I have to get up early because I have.....dun dun dun...JURY DUTY tomorrow morning.

Sounds like fun, no?

[Barbaton]

Originally posted by Toshi



Addition: another item of note is that my beloved camera is back at Canon for warranty work. So don't go riding anytime soon. :eek: ;)




no worries. I can always check one out from work. I've been thinnking of taking one of our nice DV cams out to shoot some footage anyway.


Thad

[Quadari]

Well...jury duty was a blast.

If by blast you mean sitting and getting to read for four hours, then getting to go home.

[WTGPhoben]

I just had a short morning ride, but I think Ari would feel left out if we didn't ride tonight too. Who's in?

BTW, TOSHI. Dave has a hook at work for Iron HOrse if you're into that.

until then... if we can find a wheel, my #2 bike is always available for rental:D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
I just had a short morning ride, but I think Ari would feel left out if we didn't ride tonight too. Who's in?

BTW, TOSHI. Dave has a hook at work for Iron HOrse if you're into that.

until then... if we can find a wheel, my #2 bike is always available for rental:D
Jury duty sounds as if it was a blast, Ari. They dismiss you for being too liberal? :eek: :rolleyes:

I'm up for some riding tonight. I visited Paramount, btw, and Tyler said he can't compete with Supergo's prices, since he buys bikes for a considerably higher amount (he gave me figures, but I don't think those should be disseminated). You can't steal the front wheel off of it, but my road bike is free for use tonight, too.

[Quadari]

Everyone see: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=23427

toshi-you think your Stinky was ghetto?

Remember my old Trek? (if not, the frame and rear wheel are still in my room in DeWolfe)

[Quadari]

No...not dismissed. i never even got a chance to be impaneled. they were supposed to impanel three juries today but one got settled out of court and the other the guy pleaded guilty. so I just sat there and read my book from 8am until noon. then i got to go home.

I'm definitely in for a ride this evening.

Speaking of road bikes...for those who don't know I'm gonna be getting one! I'm in the process of buying a 2001 Lemond from a guy I found on roadbikereview.com.

It's gonna be sweet. :D

[Quadari]

For xc,
I'll save up a bit, and get one of those newfangled Hollowpoints. I hear the
guy who designed the 2003s is pretty sharp. ;-)

For the uninformed, what is a Hollowpoint?

[Barbaton]

so guess who just found his week lost cellphone in his bed.

uh huh.


let's hear it for procrastination. i need a bike


-t

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Barbaton
so guess who just found his week lost cellphone in his bed.

hehe...one of my roomates did the same thing this year.

He lost a palm pilot i think it was back in november. Ended up getting a new one, which then broke, and then got a third one. Then when we were moving the couch down into storage he found the first one stuck way underneath the cushions. so now he has two.

[Toshi]

One and all, we're going riding tonight. It will take about an hour for me to get the newly rebuilt fork back on and install the Evil chainguide which showed up today.

Random: nice move, Thad. :thumb: Ari, I didn't have any ghetto pictures (altho my old Proflex certainly wasn't ghetto, I have no pics, let alone on my computer).

For now, let's meet in front of 20 Dewolfe at 9:00 to be safe. note different time!

[Toshi]

The ride, in fragments. New Evil guide. Many delays, all my fault. :D Earlier oil change botched by me, too. Fun pedal kick drops. Another bent seatpost. :rolleyes: Skater punk 13 year olds and nasty glaring cops. Ari and Keith going wild on the stairs. Multiple flats. Mulch in lieu of air. A bumpy ride home. Burning pizza. Now this. Ugh.

[WTGPhoben]

what toshi meant to say was that everyone (but me) decided to destroy their bikes, and succeded. I, on the other hand, spent the evening getting intimate with platform pedals for THE FIRST TIME EVER (I apologize, I'm an XC guy), and thanks to some strategically borrowed shinguards[thanks toshi], I escaped the night scot free.

[WTGPhoben]

but man am I sore

[Barbaton]

where'd you guys go?

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Barbaton
where'd you guys go?
We hit up Government Center, but took quite the windy route to get there. :D

Anyone want to ride to Belmont Wheelworks today? I need to pick up a bolt that they ordered for the road bike.

[Barbaton]

oh. I thought they weren't letting people ride there anymore.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Barbaton
oh. I thought they weren't letting people ride there anymore.
That pit area where the bmxers used to hang out is fenced off, but most of the fun stuff (like the wallrides) is still accessible. I'm not sure if we're supposed to be there, but that's another issue entirely. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that both Ari and Keith were getting some solid wallrides in. :thumb:

(old pic)

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/april%2019,%202002%20night%20ride/indexfiles/80.jpg.jpg

[Toshi]

Ari,

At Belmont, Tim showed me the same Titus (with those cool bolt-on dropouts) as he did for you. I think I might go with a sane (LX/V brake/unknown fork?) build on one of those when the xc bug hits with full force. :eek:

[WTGPhoben]

so today's ride summary: We did the MTB loop and res loop at the fells. The trails are really getting hurt bad over there. people have been making new lines all over the place to get around the hard stuff, and with the wet weather, the new lines are starting to rip up the forest. We did our best to block off any new lines we saw so the vegetation could grow back. (and we apologize to the dude who tried to ride one of those new lines before we were done blocking it... oops [even though he shouldn't have been riding it anyway])

I think ari ad I might want the day off tomorrow, with the urban on fri and the trail on sat, sun might need to involve a lot of TV.

[Quadari]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
I think ari ad I might want the day off tomorrow, with the urban on fri and the trail on sat, sun might need to involve a lot of TV.

I agree. my legs are sort of hurting right now. But it was most definitely a quality ride. Lots of fun, and a good workout.

World cup match in 6.5 hours! woohoo. who do you guys think will win.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
I agree. my legs are sort of hurting right now. But it was most definitely a quality ride. Lots of fun, and a good workout.
Coolness. My shoulder feels kind of funky, if anyone cares. :eek:World cup match in 6.5 hours! woohoo. who do you guys think will win.
Who's playing? What's this "world cup" deal anyways? :D

For fun, I've decided to start combing the mtbr classifieds. If any of you are bored, please check out these ads and tell me what you think.

Breezer (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=29654&query=retrieval)
Diamondback DBR (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=29149&query=retrieval)
GT Xizang (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=30571&query=retrieval)
Stumpy M4 (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=27791&query=retrieval)
Stumpy S-works (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=30121&query=retrieval)
Klein (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=30112&query=retrieval) sold already :(
Alison Dunlap's backup bike (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=29446&query=retrieval)
GT Zaskar (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=28478&query=retrieval)
Litespeed (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=28409&query=retrieval)
Yeti ARC (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=28075&query=retrieval) sold already :(

It's too bad JOJO's mtb was already taken -- I would have settled for that. :rolleyes: :D

Morning update: I met the guy who wants to buy my huge fork, and he's cool. He needs to sell his old (brand new, tho) fork first. This is a thread about the fork he is selling in order to buy mine: Stratos LR-1 (http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17682&perpage=60&highlight=Stratos LR1&pagenumber=1). <- Messing with the perpage number is fun.

Ari: did you end up downloading this to convert your fonts? I haven't tried it yet, but it's shareware... http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4789/TTConverter15.hqx (a few minutes later) Ok, it seems to work, too. What could be better?

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

Klein (http://marketplace.consumerreview.com/cgi-bin/classifieds/classifieds.pl?db=MtbReview&website=MtbReview&language=&session_key=&search_and_display_db_button=on&results_format=long&db_id=30112&query=retrieval)

You could become an all Klein man!



Ari: did you end up downloading this to convert your fonts? I haven't tried it yet, but it's shareware... http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Way/4789/TTConverter15.hqx (a few minutes later) Ok, it seems to work, too. What could be better?

Yeah, I tried that, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with the type of fonts that we were dealing with.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
You could become an all Klein man!

Yeah, I tried that, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to work with the type of fonts that we were dealing with.
I'm leery of that White Bros fork, tho. :eek: Marzocchi, please. :D

Your fonts weren't .ttp files? I wanted the Fatboy Slim BLTC font that a13x uses in his pictures (which he hasn't posted for a while -- I'll post a sample), and it worked just fine for that. Do commercial fonts have some protection against conversion?

[Quadari]

Originally posted by Toshi

Your fonts weren't .ttp files?

No...they weren't. They were True Type, type 1 fonts, I believe. It was actually two different files the made up the PC font that converted into two different mac files. They had funny extensions that I can't remember right now.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Toshi
I wanted the Fatboy Slim BLTC font that a13x uses in his pictures (which he hasn't posted for a while -- I'll post a sample
Two of the bikes on my list above have been sold already. :( At least they were the sketchy ones (Klein with the WB, ok, the Yeti wasn't sketchy). Some guy selling his girlfriend's M2 already got booted off the list since he was very reluctant to send a pic because it would be a waste of his time if I ended up buying a different bike. With that attitude... :rolleyes:

Anyways, here's another sample of the Fatboy Slim font, from my new gratuitously oversized header image from my local web page:

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/miscellaneous/localsite.png

[WTGPhoben]

For fun, I've decided to start combing the mtbr classifieds. If any of you are bored, please check out these ads and tell me what you think.

Gotta say the best deal in that lot is the DBR. It's got a sweet price and minus the rims, It's stacked. Besides, after having bombers for so long you'll cry yourself to sleep at night with a manitou. (the ti bike and the GT are also cool, but pricey... and who would want to beat up a collectors item?)

Also: I'm riding with byron after work. gonna be a speedy XC if anyone's interested. drop a brother an email (or post)

[WTGPhoben]

I guess the breezer is ok too if you like grip shift, but I can't stand the things.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
Gotta say the best deal in that lot is the DBR. It's got a sweet price and minus the rims, It's stacked. Besides, after having bombers for so long you'll cry yourself to sleep at night with a manitou. (the ti bike and the GT are also cool, but pricey... and who would want to beat up a collectors item?)

I guess the breezer is ok too if you like grip shift, but I can't stand the things.
I am definitely leaning towards the DBR as well. The guy was even the nicest in response to my call for pictures; or at least he was tied with the gold S-works guy. I just need my fork buyer to get the money and pay me and then all will be well.

[Quadari]

Toshi-

What's up here? You're going to have all hardtail bikes. Keith is gonna be the only one with a dualie. As he says, "Me with a dualie? Who ever thought it would happen?"

:D

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Quadari
Toshi-

What's up here? You're going to have all hardtail bikes. Keith is gonna be the only one with a dualie. As he says, "Me with a dualie? Who ever thought it would happen?"

:D
Maybe I'll be able to climb hills :eek: :D

[WTGPhoben]

Maybe I'll be able to climb hills

yeah, and someday I'll do big drops... .... .... HAHAHAHAHAHA.

[Toshi]

Originally posted by WTGPhoben
yeah, and someday I'll do big drops... .... .... HAHAHAHAHAHA.
Hey, use the Quote button at the bottom right (as opposed to the one in the Reply to Post page). Anyways, we coerced you into dirt jumping, so nothing's impossible. :eek:

Besides, I once was a decent climber (pic on left; note the mountains :D ):

http://tjclark.ath.cx/images/humba/history.jpg

Random pic: http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=302050 (Orven, RideMonkey, JOJO, together thanks to DaveW's Photoshop magic)

[Toshi]

Urban ride tonight. Maybe we can explore the neighborhood past the athletic complex...? Meeting at 10ish in front of 20 Dewolfe, or at my room (#31) if I forget to show up. ;)

[Barbaton]

hey. some good news. the insc co apparently does replacement cost, not depreciated cost. That bike retails now for 1400...





:cool:

[Toshi]

Originally posted by Barbaton
hey. some good news. the insc co apparently does replacement cost, not depreciated cost. That bike retails now for 1400...





:cool:
Sweet! Buy Alison Dunlap's bike! ;)

[WTGPhoben]

Originally posted by Toshi

Besides, I once was a decent climber (pic on left; note the mountains :D ):



wow, you even have proof.

(PS... using the quote button on the main page quotes the whole thing, and I hate deleting text from the quotes:mad: )