all your popes are belong to us

[$tinkle]

lu! lu! lu! lu! lu! lu! lu!

Muslims Assail Pope's Remarks on Islam (http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/09/15/D8K592E00.html)

ANKARA, Turkey

Turkey's ruling Islamic-rooted party joined a wave of criticism of Pope Benedict XVI on Friday, accusing him of trying to revive the spirit of the Crusades with remarks he made about Islam. Muslim leaders in the Middle East expressed dismay, and Pakistan's parliament unanimously condemned him.

The Vatican said the pope did not intend the remarks _ made in Germany on Tuesday during an address at a university _ to be offensive.

The pope quoted from a book recounting a conversation between 14th century Byzantine Christian Emperor Manuel Paleologos II and a Persian scholar on the truths of Christianity and Islam.

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,'" he quoted the emperor as saying. He did not explicitly agree with them nor repudiate them.

Turkey's top Islamic cleric, Religious Affairs Directorate head Ali Bardakoglu, asked Benedict on Thursday to apologize about the remarks and unleashed a string of accusations against Christianity, raising tensions before the pontiff's planned visit to Turkey in November on what would be his first papal pilgrimage in a Muslim country.

Bardakoglu said he was deeply offended and called the remarks "extraordinarily worrying, saddening and unfortunate."

On Thursday, when the pope returned to Italy, Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said, "It certainly wasn't the intention of the pope to carry out a deep examination of jihad (holy war) and on Muslim thought on it, much less to offend the sensibility of Muslim believers."

Lombardi insisted the pontiff respects Islam. Benedict wants to "cultivate an attitude of respect and dialogue toward the other religions and cultures, obviously also toward Islam," Lombardi said.

On Friday, Salih Kapusuz, a deputy leader of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's party, said Benedict's remarks were either "the result of pitiful ignorance" about Islam and its prophet, or worse, a deliberate distortion of the truths.

"He has a dark mentality that comes from the darkness of the Middle Ages. He is a poor thing that has not benefited from the spirit of reform in the Christian world," Kapusuz blurted out in comments made to the state-owned Anatolia news agency. "It looks like an effort to revive the mentality of the Crusades."

In Beirut, Lebanon's most senior Shiite Muslim cleric denounced the remarks and demanded the pope personally apologize for insulting Islam.

"We do not accept the apology through Vatican channels ... and ask him (Benedict) to offer a personal apology _ not through his officials _ to Muslims for this false reading (of Islam)," Grand Ayatollah Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah told worshippers in his Friday prayers sermon.

A Lebanese government official said the country's ambassador to the Vatican has been instructed to seek clarifications on the pontiff's remarks.

In neighboring Syria, the grand mufti, the country's top Sunni Muslim religious authority, sent a letter to the Pope saying he feared the pontiff's comments on Islam would worsen interfaith relations.

And in Cairo, about 100 demonstrators gathered in an anti-Vatican protest outside the capital's al-Azhar mosque.

Pakistan's parliament unanimously adopted a resolution condemning the pope for making what it called "derogatory" comments about Islam, and seeking an apology from him

Pakistan's Foreign Ministry also called the pope's remarks "regrettable."

"Anyone who describes Islam as a religion as intolerant encourages violence," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

"What he has done is that he has quoted very offensive remarks by some emperor hundreds of years ago," Aslam said. "It is not helpful (because) we have been trying to bridge the gap, calling for dialogue and understanding between religions."

She said Muslims had a long history of tolerance, adding that when the Catholic kingdom of Spain expelled its Jewish population in 1492 they were welcomed by Muslim nations such as the Turkish Ottoman Empire.

Benedict, who has made the fight against growing secularism in Western society a theme of his pontificate, is expected to visit Turkey for a few days, starting Nov. 28. He was invited by the staunchly secularist Turkish President Ahmet Necdet Sezer, who said the invitation was part of an effort to strengthen dialogue between religions.

On Friday the pope appointed a French prelate with diplomatic experience in the Muslim world as the Vatican's new foreign minister. The new foreign minister _ officially called secretary for relations with states _ is Archbishop Dominique Mamberti, 54, who was born of French parents in Morocco.

[Secret Squirrel]

F*ckin' hell....someone needs a waammbulance....

[Ciaran]

"How dare you speak truth about Islam Mr. Pope! take it back! Waaaahhh... jihad on you!"

[$tinkle]

uh...this has all the markings another mohammed cartoon imbroglio:

Muslims in uproar over pope’s remarks on Islam. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060915/ts_afp/vaticanpopeislam)
Muslims deplore Pope speech, want apology. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060915/ts_nm/religion_pope_islam_dc)
Muslims express fury over pope’s remarks. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_on_re_mi_ea/pope_muslims)
Turkish lawmaker compares pope to Hitler. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_on_re_mi_ea/pope_muslims_9) (of course!)
Muslims assail pope’s remarks on Islam. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060915/ap_on_re_mi_ea/pope_muslims_5)
Pakistan parliament demands Pope retract Islam comments. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060915/ts_afp/vaticanpopeislam_060915100530)
Pope branded a medieval crusader in India. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060915/wl_sthasia_afp/vaticanpopeislamindiareax_060915103123)
Muslims demand pope apologise for Islam comments. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060915/ts_afp/vaticanpopeislampakistan_060915074539)
Bombing on Gaza Christians Over Jihad Comments (http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/18433.html)
(and the award of best use of irony yet) Pope comments explosive in Mideast: analysts (http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=142316)

hey, if the sandal fits...

[$tinkle]

anyone remember those crazy riots & condemnation & call for jihad after this: judaism is a gutter religion - louis farrakhan, leader of the nation of islam (http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/03-08-00.html)

yeah, neither do i

[Echo]

Religion is the source of almost every problem in the world (especially if you count our corrupt president's policies as christian). People need to chill the f*ck out.

[$tinkle]

Religion is the source of almost every problem in the world (especially if you count our corrupt president's policies as christian). People need to chill the f*ck out.well, look who's been doing shots out of rosie odonnell's quimbath!

so let's run through the list of bush's fundamentalist christian policies being the source of almost every problem in the world [remember, you wrote "especially"]:

{empty set}*

again, recalling that you wrote "especially", what shall the test be to see which religion is doing more seething, whinging, rioting, beheading, frothing?



* iraq liberation act signed by bill clinton in 1998

[$tinkle]

also...if this GWOT was (to paraphrase war critics) "concocted on lies", let's recall who some of the original architects were: neoconservatives.

perle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Perle). kristol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Kristol). wolfowitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wolfowitz). feith (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Feith). rohatyn ("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Rohatyn).

crusaders don't typically wear yarmulkes.

[Transcend]

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,'" he quoted the emperor as saying. He did not explicitly agree with them nor repudiate them.


Um, i'd say that was pretty inflamatory. Bush's "christian" policies are retarded as the Islamic ones. Right wing bigots are hilarious. Welcome to their club!

[$tinkle]

words don't seem to be working; let's use pictures:

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4553/2158/400/Sutherland2.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4553/2158/400/WOF1.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4553/2158/400/ROP.0.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4553/2158/400/Mahmoud22.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4553/2158/320/HamasPolice.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4553/2158/320/HamasSchoolTeachers.jpg
http://www.alexross.com/CJ028.jpg

[Echo]

well, look who's been doing shots out of rosie odonnell's quimbath!

so let's run through the list of bush's fundamentalist christian policies being the source of almost every problem in the world [remember, you wrote "especially"]:

{empty set}*

again, recalling that you wrote "especially", what shall the test be to see which religion is doing more seething, whinging, rioting, beheading, frothing?



* iraq liberation act signed by bill clinton in 1998
Nice job of misinterpreting what I said, and therefore putting a bunch of words in my mouth that are completely unlike anything I would ever say.

I didn't say "christianity" is the problem.

I said "religion" is the problem.

ALL religion.

[Transcend]

Yes, let's.

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/IraqDeadBaby.jpg

http://tribalmessenger.org/t-middle-east/images/iraq-mid-east-war-expanded/the%20bodies%20of%20dead%20Iraqi%20civilians%20sto red%20in%20a%20refrigerated%20truck,%20April%2011. jpg

and an extra special one for the redneck imperialists amongst us.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/may2004/190504new1.jpg

[$tinkle]

Nice job of misinterpreting what I said, and therefore putting a bunch of words in my mouth that are completely unlike anything I would ever say.

I didn't say "christianity" is the problem.

I said "religion" is the problem.

ALL religion.what's the reasonable interpretation of this:(especially if you count our corrupt president's policies as christian).i will agree that no religion has been immune from frothers uniting their minions for a violent cause (yes, even hindus (http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=3591)).

[$tinkle]

"The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war," the pope said.

"He said, I quote, 'Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached,'" he quoted the emperor as saying. He did not explicitly agree with them nor repudiate them.let there be no doubt, these remarks are rather inflammatory. tell me, will you be utterly gobsmacked to find out violence will follow in its wake? half a million sudanese - purely because they are christian - are being slaughtered, chased off the land, raped, terrorised, and the world yawns.

see a difference?Bush's "christian" policies are retarded as the Islamic ones. Right wing bigots are hilarious. Welcome to their club!you cannot be talking about armed conflict, as i pointed out elsewhere in this thread, so maybe you're talking about gay marriage (which isn't exactly getting a warm reception by jewish groups either), or not federally funding embryonic stem-cell research, or janet jackson's boob?

[Silver]

Aw, they're fighting over who's got the best imaginary friend.

So, who wins this round? Nazi pope or Islamic retards?

[$tinkle]

transcend,

1st 2 pics represent victims of christians?
3rd pic: i don't see the rosary around her neck; do you assume she's christian? how do you not know she's an atheist?

[Transcend]

Aw, they're fighting over who's got the best imaginary friend.

So, who wins this round? Nazi pope or Islamic retards?

They both lose on the grounds of both being retarded. Also, be sure to include all Christian retards, not just their slightly dimwitted leader.

[Transcend]

transcend,

1st 2 pics represent victims of christians?
3rd pic: i don't see the rosary around her neck; do you assume she's christian? how do you not know she's an atheist?

All 3 are casualties of an invasion being led by a supposedly Christian leader on an imperialistic rampage.

[$tinkle]

if bush were democrat he could've just aborted the baby

[Transcend]

if bush were democrat he could've just aborted the baby

Too bad his mom didn't abort him, although with all the booze and coke you'd think he could have done himself in.

[Changleen]

$tinkle, it's early in the morning and I'm hung over. What point exactly are you making?

So far I'm getting 'Muslims bad - Christians less bad', Hmmm, I think I agree with Echo/Trancend - All religion dumb as ****.

[$tinkle]

$tinkle, it's early in the morning and I'm hung over. What point exactly are you making?the usual drivel; no original content here at all.

in the meantime, europe may well burn all the way to the gates of vienna

[Transcend]

the usual drivel; no original content here at all.

in the meantime, europe may well burn all the way to the gates of vienna

Typical xenophobic American. Enjoy your trailer parks and supersized mcdonalds happy meals.

[$tinkle]

Typical xenophobic American. Enjoy your trailer parks and supersized mcdonalds happy meals.and you enjoy your 2 year wait for corrective knee surgery under your brilliant socialized medical programme.

and i expect you to treat my bike with respect when you put in on the lift for me, jacque.

frikkin ice fisher.

[Transcend]

and you enjoy your 2 year wait for corrective knee surgery under your brilliant socialized medical programme.

and i expect you to treat my bike with respect when you put in on the lift for me, jacque.

frikkin ice fisher.

Sweet, as well as being a simpleton, you are clearly uneducated. Just like Americans, we can choose to pay for private healthcare. the difference is our poor don't have to go without, be refused service or go bankrupt.

Or you can do what I did, wait 1 day and get pretty much any care you need (including multiple surgeries, cat scans etc).

[DRB]

I will say this, my experience is that Muslims get a lot more bent out of shape about crap like this then Christians and not by a small margin. The fact of the matter is that I read, hear and see MUCH worse comments from senior clerics throughout the region on a daily basis then what the pope said. What I don't see is the same reaction by Christians to those comments.

Or maybe it could be that most folks don't hear or see what some the clerics are saying.

[kidwoo]

I will say this, my experience is that Muslims get a lot more bent out of shape about crap like this then Christians and not by a small margin. The fact of the matter is that I read, hear and see MUCH worse comments from senior clerics throughout the region on a daily basis then what the pope said. What I don't see is the same reaction by Christians to those comments.

Or maybe it could be that most folks don't hear or see what some the clerics are saying.

We should bring such claims to the attention of our christian leaders. In boxes..........with missles, weaver stance how-tos, lots of firearms, images of clean white girls being attacked by the evil brown people .....plus pics of mohammad giving pope the shocker while sucking his johnson.

I'd really like to escalate this.

[valve bouncer]

frikkin ice fisher.
Not bad there el-Stinko.:biggrin:

[Old Man G Funk]

A co-worker of mine had an interesting thought not too long ago that perhaps Islam is going through the same stage that Judaism and Christianity went through long ago (violence shoved together with a nice touch of evangelism.) In the Bible the Jews fought anything and anyone for many many years, and during the Roman times had to be subdued quite often. After that it was the Christians' turn with their numerous Crusades and Inquisitions. Perhaps now we are simply seeing the growing pains of a younger religion.

[ALEXIS_DH]

so, whats the spread for the pope getting pwn3d in his next visit to a muslim country?

[Transcend]

so, whats the spread for the pope getting pwn3d in his next visit to a muslim country?

Probably 2/1. Can the pope mobile withstand an IED built with a mortar shell or an RPG?

[SofaKingBanned]

How do you respond when someone says you're irrational and violent?

Oh, I know, let's go kill some people.

[Kevin]

Perhaps now we are simply seeing the growing pains of a younger religion.

So you actually think Islam is younger then Christianity?
Guess again.
Also, people from different cultures/religions have ALLWAYS been at war with eachother.
But back in the day wars were between nations rather then civilizations, while the future of world politics will be shaped by wars between people of different cultures and not between the nations they live in.

[Changleen]

How do you respond when someone says you're irrational and violent?

Oh, I know, let's go kill some people.

From The Independant:

hundreds of miles south of Rome, in Mogadishu, at least two men shot a 70-year-old Italian nun four times in the back at a school where she worked. The nun, Sister Leonella, died in hospital. A senior Islamic souce in Somalia cited by Reuters said there was "a high level of possibility" that the murder was linked to the speech.

And yesterday the surge of violence continued. Two churches in the West Bank were set on fire, following five incidents in the West Bank and Gaza on Saturday, when five churches were firebombed and fired at.

But, elsewhere, firebrand Islamic preachers continued to milk the crisis for all it was worth. In the holy city of Qom, in Iran, a hardline cleric, Ahmad Khatami, told hundreds of demonstrators that the Pope and President Bush were "united in order to repeat the Crusades".F'in religious dicks.

[Silver]

So you actually think Islam is younger then Christianity?


Since you don't have Islam without Mohammaed, and you don't have Christianity without Christ, and Christ predates Mohammed, I'm curious as to how exactly you're going to make the claim that Islam is the same age or older than Christianity.

[$tinkle]

Since you don't have Islam without Mohammaed, and you don't have Christianity without Christ, and Christ predates Mohammed, I'm curious as to how exactly you're going to make the claim that Islam is the same age or older than Christianity.i think he means islam is so evil, it's satanic.

q.e.d.

[SofaKingBanned]

Wasn't Lucifer GOD's first son?

Let's see... Moses, Jesus, Mohammed... when is he gonna get it right?

[$tinkle]

so, whats the spread for the pope getting pwn3d in his next visit to a muslim country?don't even think he'll have to leave the comfort of the suisse guard if this comes to fruition:The Vatican has increased the security provisions for the Pope, Army Radio reported Sunday, a day after an Iraqi insurgent group threatened the Vatican with a suicide attack over the pope's remarks on Islam.

haaretz (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/763199.html)

[Silver]

i think he means islam is so evil, it's satanic.

q.e.d.

Still doesn't work. God was around before Satan, and since Jesus is part of the Trinity, he was around before Satan as well. If Islam is Satanic and Christianity is Godlike, Christianity is still older.

Christ, religious arguments are stupid... :banghead:

[SofaKingBanned]

Wait, Jesus is God?

So God's schizophrenic?

[Silver]

Wait, Jesus is God?

So God's schizophrenic?

Multiple Personality Disorder.

You know, when you think of God in terms of being a crazy ass mental patient, then the world does start to make some sense...

[Kevin]

After checking the details I admit I was wrong.
Muslims claim that Islam was there first but it was not.

[DaveW]

Wasn't Lucifer GOD's first son?

Let's see... Moses, Jesus, Mohammed... when is he gonna get it right?

'bout when he goes for the "fvcckit lets start again from a clean slate" plan. :bonk:

[Old Man G Funk]

Wasn't Lucifer GOD's first son?

Let's see... Moses, Jesus, Mohammed... when is he gonna get it right?
Actually, Jesus is the only son of god according to most Christians. Moses and Mohammed were prophets and Lucifer was an angel. Angels and prophets were created by god, but they are not sons.

[DRB]

"We tell the worshipper of the cross (the Pope) that you and the West will be defeated, as is the case in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya," said an Internet statement by the Mujahideen Shura Council, an umbrella group led by Iraq's branch of al Qaeda, according to the Reuters news agency.

"We shall break the cross and spill the wine. ... God will (help) Muslims to conquer Rome. ... God enable us to slit their throats, and make their money and descendants the bounty of the mujahideen," said the statement.

We're working hard to prove the Pope wrong.

[Old Man G Funk]

From the WaPo, apparently the Pope has made a non-apology...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/17/AR2006091700178.html

[Old Man G Funk]

BTW, if anyone wants the transcript to the whole speech, it is here. (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg_en.html)

Although violence by the Muslim world over this is idiotic, I can see how some people might be offended by the Pope's words.

[$tinkle]

Although violence by the Muslim world over this is idiotic, I can see how some people might be offended by the Pope's words.kinda like "i can see how fred phelps can be offended by homosexuals"? seriously, how thin-skinned does one have to be to want to actually kill someone who echoed an opinion by a 14th cen byzantine emperor?

http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/islamicextremistsrageometer.jpg

allahu akbar

[llkoolkeg]

All of this crap just makes me happy to be a member of a small, modest church where the biggest debate is over batting order in the cross-denominational softball league. Religion is less the issue than extremism and the sweeping generalizations by either side only provoke those too busy popping off to be bothered with thought.

[Old Man G Funk]

kinda like "i can see how fred phelps can be offended by homosexuals"? seriously, how thin-skinned does one have to be to want to actually kill someone who echoed an opinion by a 14th cen byzantine emperor?

Whoa there. Just because I said that I can see how someone would be offended doesn't mean that they have to go out and kill someone. Ratzinger quoted a Byzantine Emperor saying that Islam is evil, and it really didn't have to be in that speech. It didn't add anything to the speech. I can see how a Muslim might view that as a shot at his religion. It doesn't mean that Muslim should go out and kill someone, but (s)he could recognize it as insulting at least.

[$tinkle]

Ratzinger quoted a Byzantine Emperor saying that Islam is evil, and it really didn't have to be in that speech. It didn't add anything to the speech. something tells me this guy probably did have more intent than just a "spitballing rabbit trail", if we can be honest. he may not be calling for another crusade, but he sure ain't leading a chorus of kumbaya either
I can see how a Muslim might view that as a shot at his religion. i'll take it one further & say a muslim should view it as a shot against his religion.

next question of course is: "was the pope accurate & complete in his statement?"

[Old Man G Funk]

something tells me this guy probably did have more intent than just a "spitballing rabbit trail", if we can be honest. he may not be calling for another crusade, but he sure ain't leading a chorus of kumbaya either
Maybe he's looking back to his glory days in the Hitler Youth?
i'll take it one further & say a muslim should view it as a shot against his religion.
I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe he just forgot to take that out of a previous draft of the speech or something.
next question of course is: "was the pope accurate & complete in his statement?"
Historically it is probably accurate that the Byzantine Emperor said that.

[llkoolkeg]

:disgust1: I heard on the radio last week that a local proprietor was shot and killed over a cheesesteak sandwich- A CHEESESTEAK SANDWICH- even after the money paid for it was refunded to the lunatic. That reminded me of this situation. If you value human life no more than a fvckin' grinder, be it halaal or not, sawing off a blue collar family man's head or shooting a nun in the back over a religious slight takes no great leap of logic. :disgust1:

[ohio]

What I don't get is how the west can at the same time vomit out apologies for this stuff (pope, cartoons, etc.) as if we've done something wrong everytime someone exercises some free speech but be completely unapologetic about bombing the living **** out of the middle east under false pretences.

Who do we think we're fooling? The actions speak louder than words about our true feelings towards arab muslims, and the words just make us look like backpedalling double-talkers. Grow some spine, and stand up for free speech. Educating the world (including ourselves) that democracy is not freedom from being offended is important.

It would also be helpful if our comments were specific to extremist muslim clerics and not the whole of the religion... but that's nitpicking.

[ohio]

Historically it is probably accurate that the Byzantine Emperor said that.

The reality is that the extremist clerics ARE completely out of control, and appeasing them with ridiculous apologies does a disservice to the West and moderate Muslims, and empowers exactly the radicals that we need to disarm.

[Silver]

What I don't get is how the west can at the same time vomit out apologies for this stuff (pope, cartoons, etc.) as if we've done something wrong everytime someone exercises some free speech but be completely unapologetic about bombing the living **** out of the middle east under false pretences.



Free speech is less important than bombing the hell out of people. You remember the post from a couple weeks ago with the reports from FBI agents who sit and watch scat porn all day?

[llkoolkeg]

You remember the post from a couple weeks ago with the reports from FBI agents who sit and watch scat porn all day?

Takes a thief to catch a thief, eh? Ugh...

[Silver]

The odd thing is, these dumbass Muslims have a lot in common with the Pope. They don't like Jews or fags too much, and have little use for secular/rational philosophy.

It would be great if we could get them all in a room at the same time and have them re-enact the ending of Reservoir Dogs.

[$tinkle]

The reality is that the extremist clerics ARE completely out of control, and appeasing them with ridiculous apologies does a disservice to the West and moderate Muslims, and empowers exactly the radicals that we need to disarm.here, here.

"disarm"? is that the west's version of "dishead"?

[$tinkle]

Takes a thief to catch a thief, eh? Ugh...might explain their recent successes in catching online child predators.

** more ugh **

[Old Man G Funk]

The reality is that the extremist clerics ARE completely out of control, and appeasing them with ridiculous apologies does a disservice to the West and moderate Muslims, and empowers exactly the radicals that we need to disarm.
I would go further and say the extremists, period.

[$tinkle]

uh-oh, the pope's comments have spilled over into sri lanka (http://dabalogh.blogspot.com/2006/09/buddhist-violence-continues-for-fourth.html)

also, here's a condensed version of his inflammatory comments we haven't yet seen:
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001472.html

[Silver]

also, here's a condensed version of his inflammatory comments we haven't yet seen:
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001472.html

That's gold!

We [Catholics] might **** little kids, but at least we don't strap bombs on them when we're done and drop them off at the bagel shop. Sure, we treat our women like ****, but if we made them all dress like fat ninjas, there wouldn't be a single full pew in the whole ****ing world.

:clapping:

[golgiaparatus]

uh-oh, the pope's comments have spilled over into sri lanka (http://dabalogh.blogspot.com/2006/09/buddhist-violence-continues-for-fourth.html)

also, here's a condensed version of his inflammatory comments we haven't yet seen:
http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001472.html

LOL @ the enraged Monks!!

[JohnE]

so, whats the spread for the pope getting pwn3d in his next visit to a muslim country?

Oh please, like he would go anywhere near a predominately Muslim country now. He will hide out in Vatican City til he croaks...