View Full Version : Diebold AccuVote-TS Hacked
RenegadeRick
09-14-2006, 12:32 PM
I know some of you may think this is old news, but a paper was recently published by Princeton documenting it. Read it and weep for what's left of our democracy.
http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/
Abstract This paper presents a fully independent security study of a Diebold AccuVote-TS voting machine, including its hardware and software. We obtained the machine from a private party. Analysis of the machine, in light of real election procedures, shows that it is vulnerable to extremely serious attacks. For example, an attacker who gets physical access to a machine or its removable memory card for as little as one minute could install malicious code; malicious code on a machine could steal votes undetectably, modifying all records, logs, and counters to be consistent with the fraudulent vote count it creates. An attacker could also create malicious code that spreads automatically and silently from machine to machine during normal election activities — a voting-machine virus. We have constructed working demonstrations of these attacks in our lab. Mitigating these threats will require changes to the voting machine's hardware and software and the adoption of more rigorous election procedures.
Transcend
09-14-2006, 12:43 PM
One of the online tech sites actually had a step by step guide to it, timed. Its ridiculous that the US govt continues to work with these idiots. Not only is the hardware and network stack severly flawed, but the hardware is an absolute joke.
Sorta seems like another Haliburton situation doesn't it?
dante
09-14-2006, 12:43 PM
come on, I *highly* doubt that we on the left don't have better hackers than the right-wing nutjobs. get hackerz on this project, and it'll be a landslide for the democrats! the lack of a paper trail will only seal the doom of the republicans!! muahahahahahahaha. (evil laugh)
Slugman
09-14-2006, 01:49 PM
come on, I *highly* doubt that we on the left don't have better hackers than the right-wing nutjobs. get hackerz on this project, and it'll be a landslide for the democrats! the lack of a paper trail will only seal the doom of the republicans!! muahahahahahahaha. (evil laugh)
The 'right' own the machines... the 'left' needs to hack it just to make them accurate in the first place.
$tinkle
09-14-2006, 01:53 PM
come on, I *highly* doubt that we on the left don't have better hackers than the right-wing nutjobs. get hackerz on this project, and it'll be a landslide for the democrats! the lack of a paper trail will only seal the doom of the republicans!! muahahahahahahaha. (evil laugh)in all seriousness, i agree w/ you.
howsit feel to know you are better at cheating than influencing people to your point of view?
Secret Squirrel
09-14-2006, 01:56 PM
in all seriousness, i agree w/ you.
howsit feel to know you are better at cheating than influencing people to your point of view?
Is that meant to be a rhetorical question?:banana:
dante
09-14-2006, 02:53 PM
in all seriousness, i agree w/ you.
howsit feel to know you are better at cheating than influencing people to your point of view?
i feel fine, republicans have been doing it for years and they don't feel bad about it so why should I?
stevew
09-14-2006, 03:18 PM
in all seriousness, i agree w/ you.
howsit feel to know you are better at cheating than influencing people to your point of view?
given the chance to vote 5-10 times, getting out the dead vote, yes, we are far superior.
Changleen
09-14-2006, 03:40 PM
One of the online tech sites actually had a step by step guide to it, timed. Its ridiculous that the US govt continues to work with these idiots. Not only is the hardware and network stack severly flawed, but the hardware is an absolute joke.Kinda obvious why the machines are left like this...
Democracy -> :nuts: <- Diebold
$tinkle
09-14-2006, 03:53 PM
i feel fine, republicans have been doing it for years and they don't feel bad about it so why should I?repuklelikkkans can't feel, remember?
i'm going to try to hack this (http://bushclock.lose.com/) to get my 4-mo-yrs
rockwool
09-14-2006, 04:21 PM
I'm very suspicious about electronic voting machines. It's imposible to recount.. On top of that I remember reading a statement just before the presidential election of 2004, made by the president of the company responsible for the US's voting machines, that they would hand the victory to Bush (don't remember the exact words but it was along that meaning). Is Diebold the company that manufactured the voting machines?
Read Venezuela was using voting machines with open source. Does the US use open source as well?
The Israelis are suposed to be the best hackers, someone said to me.
$tinkle
09-14-2006, 04:25 PM
this american life had a story about it (http://www.thislife.org/pages/descriptions/03/250.html) a few yrs back.
yeah i listen to NPR - so what?!
RenegadeRick
09-14-2006, 04:36 PM
I'm very suspicious about electronic voting machines. It's imposible to recount.. On top of that I remember reading a statement just before the presidential election of 2004, made by the president of the company responsible for the US's voting machines, that they would hand the victory to Bush (don't remember the exact words but it was along that meaning). Is Diebold the company that manufactured the voting machines?
Votes are local and there are a variety of methods, punch cards, optical scan, touch screen, etc. No one company is responsible.
That being said the Diebold CEO is a republican supporter and he did in fact say more or less that. Here is your linky (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm).
Read Venezuela was using voting machines with open source. Does the US use open source as well?
Diebold machines are closed source, but they inadvertently left their code on a public server and someone got a hold of it. Those that analyzed it found that there were more holes in it than http://blognonymous.com/images/swiss-cheese.jpg swiss cheese.
kidwoo
09-14-2006, 04:37 PM
this american life had a story about it (http://www.thislife.org/pages/descriptions/03/250.html) a few yrs back.
yeah i listen to NPR - so what?!
Huh huh
"peezilla"
DaveW
09-14-2006, 06:14 PM
One of the online tech sites actually had a step by step guide to it, timed. Its ridiculous that the US govt continues to work with these idiots. Not only is the hardware and network stack severly flawed, but the hardware is an absolute joke.
Sorta seems like another Haliburton situation doesn't it?
The software they use is not much better...It's based on Microsoft access. :dead:
But we all know what's goping to happen..... The american public is goping to get utterly ass fvcked (again) and do nothing more than say "Please sir may I have another"
You guys are such walk overs! :bonk:
Next time the US govenment wants to spread democracy around the world it should start at home. :clue:
rockwool
09-18-2006, 11:54 AM
Votes are local and there are a variety of methods, punch cards, optical scan, touch screen, etc. No one company is responsible.
That being said the Diebold CEO is a republican supporter and he did in fact say more or less that. Here is your linky (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm).
Diebold machines are closed source, but they inadvertently left their code on a public server and someone got a hold of it. Those that analyzed it found that there were more holes in it than http://blognonymous.com/images/swiss-cheese.jpg swiss cheese.
That link didn't have the statement I was thinking of, that was about the presidential election of 2004. Still when I look into articles like that that show how that country works I get scared.
Inadvently? Right.
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