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tmoney727t
08-28-2006, 07:41 PM
is it a good 4x bike? Is a maverick dc32 a good 4x fork?

hungryleprican
08-28-2006, 07:44 PM
the mk3 frame is a perfect 4x frame
are you talking about the one in the classifieds?

bikerpunk98199
08-28-2006, 10:07 PM
it would do ok it wouldnt be the best though kinda high bb though. 13.9

A.P
08-28-2006, 11:17 PM
The new ones should be awesome (07?) because they are apparently going to be a lot slacker, but the older ones were stupidly steep. Put a shorter shock on it , and youd be good to go.

Bicyclist
08-28-2006, 11:23 PM
The one in the buy and sell has a shorter shock, which equals cash.

Zutroy
08-28-2006, 11:28 PM
Frames nice...the DC32 sucks nuts though

sbabuser
08-28-2006, 11:45 PM
I believe DW has said dw link bikes need to run a certain amount of sag to pedal properly - ie.: the short stroke shock will fock w/ it's intended performance.
Dunno why they don't make one to compete w/ the Blur 4x, tho. I'd buy it.

Bicyclist
08-28-2006, 11:46 PM
Well you could still run the same sag with a ton of bottom-out.

bikerpunk98199
08-28-2006, 11:53 PM
check out the sx in the buy and sell it looks pretty cool

Bicyclist
08-29-2006, 12:09 AM
Be-radd's? He's a good guy.

bikerpunk98199
08-29-2006, 12:27 AM
black ad white sx w/ a talas?

Bicyclist
08-29-2006, 12:29 AM
Yup. That's him.

A.P
08-29-2006, 07:23 AM
I believe DW has said dw link bikes need to run a certain amount of sag to pedal properly - ie.: the short stroke shock will fock w/ it's intended performance.
Dunno why they don't make one to compete w/ the Blur 4x, tho. I'd buy it.

I guess if it really messes up the bike, they wouldnt let all of the ironhorse team riders ride their bikes with shorter shocks? With 3'' of travel that is going to be run very stiff, the "pedaling perfomance" isnt really an issue.

Eggzoi
08-29-2006, 08:09 AM
I guess if it really messes up the bike, they wouldnt let all of the ironhorse team riders ride their bikes with shorter shocks? With 3'' of travel that is going to be run very stiff, the "pedaling perfomance" isnt really an issue.
And where did you hear that they did? If that's what you're saying, which I'm not sure it is. If not, please ignore anything and everything within this post.

CBJ
08-29-2006, 08:41 AM
Accourding to this thread DW states a short shock will not work:

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131437&highlight=shorter+shock

"Oh yeah, also, the bike has a 7.5X2 shock on it. There is no shorter shock that you can put on the frame. You cannot mess with shock lengths on dw-link frames. They are designed to have specific acceleration and braking properties at certain points in the travel. Changing the shock lengths moves the curves and wont let the dw-link work optimally.

Dave"

dw
08-29-2006, 09:27 AM
I believe DW has said dw link bikes need to run a certain amount of sag to pedal properly - ie.: the short stroke shock will fock w/ it's intended performance.
Dunno why they don't make one to compete w/ the Blur 4x, tho. I'd buy it.

The dw-link bikes dont really NEED a certain amount of sag to pedal well, but if you aren't running sag then you really aren't getting the most out of the traction advantage that dw-link will give.

Dave

dw
08-29-2006, 09:30 AM
it would do ok it wouldnt be the best though kinda high bb though. 13.9

BB height on an MKIII with a 5 inch fork is 13.19, not 13.9.

Dave

dw
08-29-2006, 09:34 AM
If you get a 7.5X2 air shock and run a 1/2 inch spacer in it so that the I2I is 7 and the stroke is 1.5 and run a 32T-36T ring up front you can make the bike work pretty awesome as a 4X bike. The 07 bikes might be better suited given that they are slacker and lighter, but keep in mind, its an XC trail bike at heart. Its not made for 50-50ing huge landings.

Dave

TheInedibleHulk
08-29-2006, 11:19 AM
Sorry dude, that MKIII is sold, we need to take down the ad. I'l make sure that happens today. And whoever said the DUC32 sucks is a flipping idiot. It has a few little quirks but is one of the simplest forks on the market to rebuild and tune, it weighs four pounds, and lasted longer on a cycle tester than a boxxer.

bikerpunk98199
08-30-2006, 12:45 AM
BB height on an MKIII with a 5 inch fork is 13.19, not 13.9.

Dave

my bad forgot the 1

bikenweed
08-30-2006, 10:13 AM
Higher BB can be a great thing, especially for 4x. A higher BB gives the rider more leverage when pumping things. 4x races don't usually have a ton of flat corners, they have more berms than anything. A higher BB bike allows the rider to pump the berms harder.

In slalom, the lower BB has some advantages, but in 4x, I'm going to wager it's not that important. A higher BB bike isn't necessarily slower or worse at turning, it just requires a different technique from the lower bikes. Super Moto guys have bikes way higher than sport bikes, and they do a pretty good job of cornering.

Bicyclist
08-30-2006, 10:31 AM
They have their bikes higher in SM for slow-speed manuverability. Bad analogy.