My rides, part of the Transition Family

[TRANSITION-MJR]

ok, so i decided to post pictures of my bikes, let me know what you think, and lets see what you other Transition owners have. i have had a Dirtbag since they first came out and i love the bike. this is my current Dirtbag and i must say it is really nice the best set up i have had for the frame it feels great. The Preston FR i have had since last winter, i built it up as i do all my bikes from the frame up. I got the Preston because i was in need of a more trail friendly bike, but soon learned it can handle so much more. The Gran Mal is no longer with me, i also bought this bike last winter and built it up, i had it for most of the season and did a bunch of races on it and the bike is awesome, loves to go fast and loves to hit the big stuff freeriding. i ran into a financial issue and had to come up with some money fast. so the bike that gets the least ride time had to go. i really, really hated to see the frame go, but i had to do it. Major BUMMER!!Transition puts out a serious product and backs it up. if you have any of there products and or have talked with Kevin, Kyle and Cam you know what im talking about. i couldnt be happier.

[Woolleyfooley]

sweet rides! transition makes great bikes!

[gadafi]

here are my 2 TBC's...

[TRANSITION-MJR]

gadafi
those are nice bikes, i love the dangerboy rocker arms on the dirtbag.

[gadafi]

is that a 2007 Fox Talas? or Van?...how is it compared to the 06...better bottom out resistance?

[Del]

Sweet bikes - my new Preston FR should be on its way to me now :)

I can't wait to get it built up and on the trail. I'll be building it with leftover parts from my 2004 P3 frame so it should be a pretty burly build.

I'll post pics here if this thread is still kicking by that time. Should be just over a week.

Then I'll be hunting for a tour of some of the good spots around VA/MD/DC.

[bjanga]

I have got a Vagrant being prepped in the shop. I am way excited.

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/525/1363668cropresb6.jpg

[TRANSITION-MJR]

reply to gadafi:
I have a 2006 Talas 36r on my Preston and a 2006 Van 36r on my dirtbag, i cant compare them with the newer models, but i can tell you that these forks are amazing, super plush, stiff, and the adjustments work very well you can feel each click change the performace of the fork, unlike some forks that you turn and turn the nob with no difference. how do you like the marzocchi fork on your bikes, are you running the 66rc2x and the z1 sport?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

i love the vagrant, ive been looking to get one. simple and sweet.

[gadafi]

@transition-mjr

I have always been a Marzocchi fan. Reliable, bury and so freakin smooth...i have a rc2x on my dirtbag and a z1 light eta on my preston...i have a few runs on a 36 VAN r(friends bike) and i like it also...it is the best fork for trail riding, but as soon as stuff gets harsher i find it bottoms out too easy....even with compression dialed all the way and with harder springs it still bottoms out pretty easily...
but i'm sure 2007 Fox won't have that problem...

[Freerider697]

gadafi, I love the setup on the preston. That's the way I would have it. I've always wanted one but i'm doing more lift served riding, so I need a little more travel. By the way, how does it ride through the rough and on the big hits?

[Polandspring88]

i love the vagrant, ive been looking to get one. simple and sweet.

What tires are on the Preston? At first glance they look like Holy Rollers, but that doesn't make much sense to me.

[dablake914]

all the prestons that have been posted up i absalutely love.... sick builds, especially the top one with the 07 fox

[gadafi]

gadafi, I love the setup on the preston. That's the way I would have it. I've always wanted one but i'm doing more lift served riding, so I need a little more travel. By the way, how does it ride through the rough and on the big hits?

The Dirtbag feels like a couch riding through the big stuff, the Preston however has a hardtail feeling, rides like my old Cove Stiffee, very agile, easy to throw around, and with a pinpoint accuracy, the bike loves skinnies and ladders....it's the perfect bike for trail riding, but it can handle rougher stuff too....i had some problems with bottoming the 4-way than dialed in the SPV and it's freat now, the bike feels like it would have at least 6" in the back...IMO one of the most versatile bikes in the market...


I WONDER HOW THE BOTTLEROCKET PERFORMS:love: it sure does look sick...me want one

[Freerider697]

cool, thanks. I am thinking about a future bike already! I just got my AS-X last season. For the next season or the one after that, its either the bottlerocket, another AS-X, or the preston. It really depends on my budget. ANYWAY... thanks

[Summit]

bjanga - you're gonna be stoked on that vagrant! nice, glad to see you got one. mine is treating me oh-so-right. I've taken it on 2,500 vert climbs no problem (altho it's a tad bit heavy), shuttles, DJ's...it's all a blast. It's serving as my XC/DJ/bash-around everything bike for now.

Freerider - I've also got an AS-X as my big bike and love it to death. I'm really curious about whether they change it next year w/ the 303 rails...

p.s. the preston builds in this thread are tha hotness.

my Vagrant: it's definitely not this clean/scratch-free anymore.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=87819&d=1152292474

[TRANSITION-MJR]

What tires are on the Preston? At first glance they look like Holy Rollers, but that doesn't make much sense to me.

you are correct, I have holly rollers on my Preston, at first i had Intense system 4's on it and was doing a lot of trail riding and light freeriding. recently i have been doing a lot of dirt jumping with my Preston and have been trying rythm sections alot of pumping, i had the holly rollers left over from one of my hardtails so i decided to put them on. the Preston is so much faster on hard pack and performs even better, i love how smooth it rolls now, saves me on the dirtjump parks that require pedaling. i end up changing tires alot but that no biggy, i hope to have another set of wheels soon and that will make the tire change easier.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

@transition-mjr

I have always been a Marzocchi fan. Reliable, bury and so freakin smooth...i have a rc2x on my dirtbag and a z1 light eta on my preston...i have a few runs on a 36 VAN r(friends bike) and i like it also...it is the best fork for trail riding, but as soon as stuff gets harsher i find it bottoms out too easy....even with compression dialed all the way and with harder springs it still bottoms out pretty easily...
but i'm sure 2007 Fox won't have that problem...

just this past year i decided to try fox, i have always had Marzocchi and never had any complaints, they have always been reliable and very strong and pretty plush. i had a chance to ride a fox 36 van and i really liked it so i wanted one, i got a super deal on the Talas 36 and couldnt pass it up, i loved the Talas 36 so much i had to have a Van 36 so i got one. so far i have no complaints on either fork, both are super plush, and the adjustments are amazing, they really work. I have ridden the Van 36 through some pretty narly stuff and i havent bottomed it yet it really holds its own. both are under a year old so im not sure how reliable they will end up being but i couldnt be happier right now.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

Summit
my Vagrant: it's definitely not this clean/scratch-free anymore.
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/att...9&d=1152292474

dude you have the limited color blue Vagrant, that color is so sweet i want one. nice rig.

[matt2991]

I wish transistion wasn't soo much $$$$$$

[Freerider697]

Summit- Yea I love my yeti as my big and only bike. In the six inch setting it feels oh so good and It pedals pretty well too. I do hope they change it a bit though. More standover would be great and a little shorter seat tube too. What is this about the rails? On the AS-X? That would be killer

[Del]

I wish transistion wasn't soo much $$$$$$

Actually I think their bikes are really priced low for what you get. The Preston is the freeride bike of the year and yet the frame is only 900 bucks. Most full suspension frames cost well over a grand.

[mandown]

i'll put my hat in this ring
http://usera.imagecave.com/mandown/bottlerocket/IMGP0638.JPG

[TRANSITION-MJR]

i'll put my hat in this ring
http://usera.imagecave.com/mandown/bottlerocket/IMGP0638.JPG

im glad you posted a picture. that is a sick rig bro. i love the Bottle Rocket. how do you like it so far?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

Actually I think their bikes are really priced low for what you get. The Preston is the freeride bike of the year and yet the frame is only 900 bucks. Most full suspension frames cost well over a grand.


ill second that, when you compare the frames and the product value Transition is on the low end of the cost spectrum. if you purchase the whole bike the price goes up because your paying for top quality parts that go with it, no junk on there stuff just the best!! Transiton offers good bang for your buck.

[mandown]

have not had any real ride time on it yet, so i cannot comment. it feels good riding around the block. once i get the spider for my cranks, i can put them on. this build is just a temporary setup with parts pirated from my other bike.

[fuzzynutz]

I love that purple color. Unique for a bike. I wish I had money and mountains.

[bjanga]

The Vagrant is coming together. Summit, I originally wanted a blue one but they were out of stock. I am glad I ended up with a black one though. How do you like your fork? Mine is topping out, I need to czech the oil levels. What does yours weigh? I think mine is going to come around 34 pounds.

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/425/1846rezp7.jpg

PS . . . prestons are hot. I almost bought one.

[Earthmover]

I held my new Bottlerocket frame today!! Showed up at HalfLink shop this afternoon, Fox Talas RC2 and DHX 5 Air show up tomorrow or Monday. David says he can get more Transition frames and can get the Fox shocks no problem. Give him a call! 360-321-7980

[MouseMonkey]

I have had my ToP for about 8 months, but have been riding it a lot more lately. It's a sweet ride.

Just stole the DeeMaxs from another bike I am selling, so it has some bling now!

MM

[ride26]

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6793/dirtbagzp5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
I'll throw mine in the mix as well

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"Ride26"

nice DirtBag bro. i love that color. how do you like the roco? im sure its a super plush ride. im interested in how the wheels are holding up for you. i almost bought a pair fo the Deetrax, nice looking, and nice price for a set that claims to be like the Deemax. killer bike man, glad you posted in the mix.

[nycurse]

i would trade for one of those!

[ride26]

"Ride26"

nice DirtBag bro. i love that color. how do you like the roco? im sure its a super plush ride. im interested in how the wheels are holding up for you. i almost bought a pair fo the Deetrax, nice looking, and nice price for a set that claims to be like the Deemax. killer bike man, glad you posted in the mix.
thanks man
as for the roco it is super plush....SUPER PLUSH...it is a sweet shock for the big mountains, but for my local trails it has its downsides..it is not a shock to get if you plan on doing any uphill but I'm loving it so far...and as for the deetrax, I couldn't be happier. Strong rim(same as a EX729) and a good hub(same hub as the deemax) for the price paid it is sweet,I paid $350.00 plus an extra $28.00 for the Mavic MP3 plan(a 3 year,no questions asked warranty)
the wheelset is strong and affordable and the whole wheelset only weights in 188 grams(less then 1/2 pound) more the the deemax wheelset
I have ridden the wheelset and tried to abuse them for 2 reasons #1 to see how much abuse they can take and #2 if I destory them I want to see how well Mavic stands behind the warranty
I have yet to knock them out of true and not even a lose spoke yet..I'm empressed

now my only problem is trying to come up with the extra funds to pick up a Preston FR

[Summit]

bjanga, not sure what mine comes in at total weight - need to run it by the shop and find out. I'd guess mid-30's though.

my fork isn't nearly as plush as my AM1 or older Z1, but it gets the job done. single hits are fine on it, but I rode at Fruita this weekend and I was getting some topping out and some just crappy feel at high speeds/stutter bumps. I've heard that's a symptom of the VF2 damping; wish it were a little nicer feeling but it's still light years ahead from the POS Manipoo I had on my last hardtail. At least I trust the Zoke...

A couple more pics in action from the weekend at Fruita/Grand Junction:

The Vagrant can climb:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=88387&stc=1&d=1155159754

...almost as well as it can jump (the white lines indicate the lower stage of a double step-down line; the camera died once I was hitting it):
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=88388&stc=1&d=1155159754

[bjanga]

My fork is topping out hard. If it is the VF2 system then shame out Marz for putting out crap. My Drop-off II felt better than this. I am trying to figure out how to fix my fork before I ride.


35 pounds:
http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/8355/1850rewa6.jpg

[ride26]

that is a sweet looking frame

[Summit]

Sick lookin frame man! Digging the black for sure. On the fork, I just messed around with mine some more and think I figured it out. Top-out isn't too big a problem on mine, but I think there was an issue w/ the rebound. I wasn't checking too closely, and just assumed the sticker with the +/- directions meant + = faster rebound. Not so. If you turn it all the way to + it rebounds slower than a snail.

Anyway learning this, I got it to feel pretty good (better than it has so far) in the parking lot test. A buddy of mine who works at a shop has one and also said it took him a few rides to get it broken in (typical of Marz), and that it was nice and plush once he got it dialed, so don't give up on it yet. I'll take it on a real trail ride/DJ sess tomorrow and let you know how it does.

[bjanga]

OK summit that calms me down. I think something is awry with my damper, it feels like I have about 10mm of undamped travel at the beginning of the stroke and that is what is giving me the gnarly topout. Apparently you can get an extended negative travel spring from Marzocchi that makes the fork feel better but eats 20mm of travel.

Can you feel it top out when it is set to a slower rebound setting?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"Summit" & "Bjanga" Nice Vagrant fella's. nothing but a sweet hardtail!!

[bockner]

whats the weight like on the Preston and Bottlerocket?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"BOCKNER"
are you asking about frame weight or total build weight?
Preston frame weight with shock is just under 9 lbs.
Bottle Rocket frame weight with shock is about 10 lbs.
coil shock with be heavier than air rear shock so wieghts will vary a little.
total build weight will depend on your choice of parts.

[bockner]

was talking total build weight, nothing too beefy (I got a dh rig) but was thinking DHX air, fox up front as well....would love to get something in the 28-30lbs range

[mandown]

i got my BR built up with OK components weight-wise. it comes in at 40lbs. you could probably get it down to 35 lbs without much of a problem. i have 400 gram bars, cromo cranks and a heavy spider. i also have 900 gram tires and a sorta heavy wheelset. i am running a fox 36 VAN R up front and a coil DHX.

the DHX air will be a bit lighter. you could go with an air 36 fork to shave another pound off. 28-30 is gonna be tough. 30-35 is possible, but probably closer to 35.

[bjanga]

I think I got the fork thing sorted. The rebound adjust knob was kinda notchy and once I turned it harder the fork REALLY slowed down. It still tops out at faster rebound speeds though.

[flat broke]

Bjanga or Summit, what size frames are you running and how tall are you guys? Both your rigs look nice, and at 35lbs, the difference between your Vagrants and my Jack Flash comes down to my cranks and DJ2 which makes me feel a little better. I'm kinda so-so on the handling of my rig and the vagrant wasn't on my radar when I first bought my frame in Jan 05.

If either of you guys have ridden 20" deals in the past, can you give me a "feels like X frame if it were a 20" type statement? Bjanga, you had a Haro Escape for a while right? How does this bike feel in comparision. My brother has a Haro Zero so I can kinda gauge off that.

Last but not least, if you don't mind me askin, what did you pay for the frame? You can PM me with the info if you don't want to post up.

After I get more time back in the saddle on my Jack Flash (or whatever I get to replace it), the bottlerocket definitely looks to be the next addition to the quiver.

Thanks,
Chris

[bjanga]

I am running the medium with the 16.5" seat tube and I am 6' tall. I can get full seat extension, and a 410mm Thomson post fits ALL the way inside the seat tube.
I do not have any real ride time yet, but the Vagrant has a pretty slack head angle. With the seat all of the way down, I can lean the bike waaaaaaay over. It is nuts. I have not ridden a 20" though.

The Escape was a weird bike. It had a 19.5" seat tube and a super short top tube. I doubt the Zero handles the same way that the Escape did.

I paid retail for the frame, from ride-this.com

What kind of riding do you plan on doing?

[flat broke]

Thanks for the input. I didn't bother to look at the geo between the Zero and the escape, so thanks for the heads up. I built my current rig for trails/DJ/light urban(whatever I find around town when out crusing around) The Flash is a solid frame, but I couldn't ride one before I layed down the coin, and I was going off a suggestion from my LBS. They didn't have one in stock, so I know they weren't trying to unload stock on me. The bike feels okay sometimes, but in other situations, it just doesn't have that instinctive feel that lets you know everything is just right. I guess you could say I like it, but I don't love it. And since it is my only ride outside of my Giant Rainier, I need to love it to feel comfy doing what I plan to do with it.

After you take it for a ride this weekend, feel free to post up some more of your impressions. Ease of manualing, how easy/hard it is to pull the front up, even how easy or hard it is to bail cleanly off the bike. ;)

Talk to you later,
Chris

[ride26]

this thread has over-run my brain...I just ordered a Preston
watching these kind of threads I'm going to end up going broke

[bjanga]

flat broke, have you looked at the trail-or-park? I think the Vagrant is intended as more of a trailriding deal.

ride26, make sure you feed the thread with pics!

[sickbullit]

Why not throw my dog into the race...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b385/sickbullit/Bikes/P1020819.jpg

held up nice at keystone and vail with the dhx air and 66sl...no complaints...

[ride26]

sickbullit, just wondering...what is your dirtbag's weight?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"ride26" you bought a Preston that is Killer, thats what this is all about, its cool knowing this thread helped you in your purchase. your going to love your preston, i know i love mine. what did you end up getting (color, rear shock, build kit?) make sure you post pictures. are you from CT? i live in New York, were do you ride? later bro. props on your new rig.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"sickbullit"
i have no complaints!! thats a steller ride, very nice build. how are you liking your E-13 DRS?

[ride26]

"ride26" you bought a Preston that is Killer, thats what this is all about, its cool knowing this thread helped you in your purchase. your going to love your preston, i know i love mine. what did you end up getting (color, rear shock, build kit?) make sure you post pictures. are you from CT? i live in New York, were do you ride? later bro. props on your new rig.
I have wanted a Preston from the 1st day I saw the video of Kevin riding one on Transition's website but after see everyone else's I had to get one now
as for the frame I'm going to be getting the Matte Slate Gray with the 4-way...for now depending how I like it I might upgrade later
as for a build..it all depends on my funds,my dream spec list will be something long the lines of a fox 36,syncros bear hug stem,sic ll bars,hayes,deetracks,all sram, and so on ...but like I said it is all about my funds...now I have to try to sell off a bunch of extra parts
yup I'm in Ct I ride alot at Platty,Jiminy Peak, MT Snow,and of course Diablo and a bunch of my local trails
where in NY are you?

[bjanga]

I love the light blue color on the dirtbags.

[arboc!]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/enjoisk8s89/pics5-23004.jpg

[Summit]

broke, ditto to what bjanga said. I'm 5'10", running a medium frame. I can get *just* full seatpost extension (actually I'm surprised bjanga can get it at 6'0" on a medium). And can drop the post and slam it to the frame, at which point it is so dropped that it's amazing how maneuverable it is. You can see how tall the pics look in the stand on mine; it's even more so when riding in XC position, heh.

I haven't ridden 20's either, sorry. I had an Iron Horse Yakuza hardtail before this which was a bigger, higher standover frame and although I had fun on it, the Transition is a much better rig. More versatile, easier to huck, toss around, etc. Pricewise, I got it straight from Transition so whatever they're charging these days...

Also, on the Dirtbags - LOVE the light blue frame. Question on those: how does the BB height feel? Low and fast, or high and tall? On my Yeti AS-X, the ONLY thing I don't like about it is the super high BB. I'd consider a DB next season if it were lower/faster cornering...

[flat broke]

flat broke, have you looked at the trail-or-park? I think the Vagrant is intended as more of a trailriding deal.



I looked at the ToP, but trails/AM is definitely a measurable portion of what I want to use the bike for, hence the reason I was looking at the vagrant. That and I like the snapiness of Al frames. Don't get me wrong, I know there is no such thing as a true magic bullet; what I'm having the hardest time pining down is that feeling you get when you throw your leg over the right bike. From the diveway, to the trail and back, it just feels right. There may be other bikes that jump better, or climb better, but the bike that just makes you stoked to be pedaling around; thats what I'm looking for. As nice as the NJF is, it isn't that bike/frame, and thats why I was asking about the Vagrant. I looks like it might be closer to what I was looking for, but without getting a leg over one, I have to solicit lots of other opinions and compare geo figures to stuff I already know.

Sorry for the highjack. Keep posting those Transition pics kids. Especially if there are more Vagrants or Bottle Rockets floating around.

Chris

[bjanga]

Vagrant with the post waaaay up:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/5869/1857rerela0.jpg

Summit, how long is your seatpost?

My haro was bigger and taller, just like summit's Yazuka. My Haro had like a 6" headtube, the Vagrant has a 4.75" I think. My balls still rest on the top tube, but I have an inch more travel too now :D
I do have tons of clearance towards the seat tube though.

I see the Vagrant as basically a cookie cutter hardtail tweaked to be lower and slacker than anything else on the market. The bike is actually slacker than an Evil Imperial, if Evil does not account for sag in their measurements.

[Kanter]

I love the bikes but hate the toptube cable routing.

[allsk8sno]

i'll post my brand spankin new light blue dirtbag when i get it rideable...built it up last night only to discover the fork seals blown on my new, unridden 66sl...

[flat broke]

Bjanga and Summit, thanks for the input. A buddy with more sadle time than me threw a leg over the NJF today and kinda felt the same way about it I did, so I know I'm not paranoid :) Consensus is too high a BB with too short a top tube. Makes it nimble, but just to cramped for what I want.

So now the only real question is to go Medium or Large. By the matrix I'd fall in on a Medium as I'm 5'11". But comparing the geo to the geo on my brother's Zero 1 the effective top tube .3" longer, while the medium is a full inch shorter. Chainstays are the same for the M or L, and close to the Zero as is the bb height. The only glaring difference is the wheelbase. I like having more room on the top tube with the Large vagrant frame, but I'm a little concerned about the bike being a little slow cornering wise and in terms of flickability with the Large being 2 full inches longer than the Zero, and the Medium coming in almost an inch and a half shorter. Where my shoulders would fall when I'm pedaling out of the sadle is pretty much the determining factor. Can you guys tell me what length crank arms your running and stem lengths as well as where your shoulders are relative to the head tube when your pedaling out of the sadle? After spending more time on my NJF, that is were I really notice things not working for me, so hopefully this last bit of info can help me decide whether to go with the M or the L.

Thanks for putting up with all the stupid questions,
Chris

[bjanga]

I think you should go for the M. The bike is SLACK and you are going to want the smaller bike to compensate for that. Call up Transition and get their opinion. They told me that Brad Walton (I do not remember how tall he was) had a large but wished he had gone with the medium.

I am running 170mm cranks, because I like the feel of the shorter arms. I am running a 45mm stem and flat bars with no spacers beneath the stem, so my cockpit is very cramped. My knees do not bang on the bars though. I guess I like a smaller bike :D

The Vagrant is going to be longer than the Zero because the Zero is a pure jump bike.

What fork do you want to put on the bike?

I would have gone with the Large, but I wanted the shorter seat tube and was worried about being able to easily weight different parts of the bike with the long top tube. I hate having to stretch out to get behind the bike. I can check out my shoulder position on monday.

Check out my impressions, too:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163065

[flat broke]

Thanks for the linky to your initial impressions. I know what you're saying about the large maybe requiring too much effort to really weight/unweight the front/rear of the bike like you would be able to do on a smaller bike. That's my main concern between the two sizes. I want the TT to be long enough so I'm comfy and have some room, but not too long that it provides a poor leverage situation for pulling the nose when either seated, or out of the saddle. I've got a 50mm and 35mm stem that I can use, so that gives me some room to fine tune, but if things are too long with the 35 I'm pretty much screwed and looking for a Medium.

As far as a fork, Ideally I'd like to run a Vanilla 36 but I don't think it can be shortened to 5" so I'm not sure. Budget wise for the time being, I'd probalby just swap the guts of my DJ out to Dropoff or Z1 freeride internals(if they'd fit) for a cheap fix.

I'm going to give Transition a call on Monday, and maybe take a trip down to their local dealer in Tustin as I think I recall seeing a brown Vagrant in there a week or two ago. Maybe I could get them to slide a fork and stem up the head tube to give me an idea of where things would fall if I was on the bike.

Thanks again for all of your input, and thanks in advance for checking on that shoulder position question for me.

Chris

[bjanga]

Are you set on running a 5" travel fork then?

[flat broke]

I'm not dead set on a 5", but thats the direction I'm leaning. When I talk to the guys at Transition, I'll run that by them, as the inch difference, may change the HA enough to be a deciding factor between the two sizes.

Chris

[TRANSITION-MJR]

I have wanted a Preston from the 1st day I saw the video of Kevin riding one on Transition's website but after see everyone else's I had to get one now
as for the frame I'm going to be getting the Matte Slate Gray with the 4-way...for now depending how I like it I might upgrade later
as for a build..it all depends on my funds,my dream spec list will be something long the lines of a fox 36,syncros bear hug stem,sic ll bars,hayes,deetracks,all sram, and so on ...but like I said it is all about my funds...now I have to try to sell off a bunch of extra parts
yup I'm in Ct I ride alot at Platty,Jiminy Peak, MT Snow,and of course Diablo and a bunch of my local trails
where in NY are you?
i am located in Warrensburg, NY i ride at Mt Snow, Diablo when i have the time to get there, and i really want to get to Jiminy. i have a lot of local trails i do most of my riding, i am currently building a sweet freeride trail that has everything imaginable on the trail, it will be a lot of fun when it done. your Preston sounds sweet, i think you will like the 4-way, its a nice shock i like mine. and your build sounds killer. im sure you cant wait to get it built up. if you have any questions about it let me know i would be glad to help. later

[sickbullit]

"sickbullit"
i have no complaints!! thats a steller ride, very nice build. how are you liking your E-13 DRS?

It's great...i ran on on my bullit before, but with the ISCG mounts on the DB it's even better...another plus is it acts as one of the spacers for the external bearings and the chainline is dialed.

Love the DRS...never dropped a chain...and i abused it at keystone and vail.

not sure about the weight...should throw it on the scale, but i keep forgetting...i think it's around 37...but that's a guess.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

It's great...i ran on on my bullit before, but with the ISCG mounts on the DB it's even better...another plus is it acts as one of the spacers for the external bearings and the chainline is dialed.

Love the DRS...never dropped a chain...and i abused it at keystone and vail.

not sure about the weight...should throw it on the scale, but i keep forgetting...i think it's around 37...but that's a guess.

Sweet. I think i will be looking to get a E-13 DRS for my Preston, upgrade from my MRP LRP.

[Greyhound]

My '05 Preston. Ready to rip Wilsons Creek.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jodyb/Wilsons003.jpg

[bjanga]

How does the Blue Groove work out on the rear? I like it on the front . . .

[sickbullit]

Sweet. I think i will be looking to get a E-13 DRS for my Preston, upgrade from my MRP LRP.

DO IT! you won't regret it, you can't get a better dual ring set up imho. I'm running 26/36 and it's a really nice gear range with a normal 11/32 on the rear...it can prettty much go into any gear without a bunch of drag....

[Greyhound]

How does the Blue Groove work out on the rear? I like it on the front . . .

Meh.....for the mountains here in NC, they're average at best---they drift a lot. Predictable, but too much for my tastes. Soil is real loamy and the Blue Grooves really don't get a lot of bite on the sides.

But around in central NC(where I live) the soil is hardpack red clay---they work real well there. Really fast and the wider knobs adhere to rocks really well.

I had Nevegals before and thought I would try these out for the heck of it. I was more impressed with the Nevegals front and rear.

[Summit]

broke, I've got the stock FSA FR stem, 75mm. It's long enough for climbing but short enough to feel tight for DH/DJ. not sure what the seatpost length is but it is long when fully extended. I've got long legs and a medium-ish torso and am somewhere between 5'10"-11". On steeeep climbs, the front does wander and lift off the ground - it is slack. But as long as the climb is moderate, it does just fine. Much better climber than my Yeti ASX (but that has a Shiver on it). Transition specs 170mm crankarms, but they gave me a different crankset (not the Gap, they sent me the V-Drive extremes). I'm totally happy with the Medium frame; it's small-ish but tons of fun. I think the large would be too stretched out for dj duty. But definitely call Transition - those guys were super helpful and knowledgeable on sizing (and everything else).

[manitouman28]

http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/839/pbpic839279.jpg

heres my dirtbag,
Since the picture has been taken I have swapped the monster for a 05 888rc, deity cranks for saints, and deity bars for sic camodized race bars.

I'll have newer pics up sometime.

[boostindoubles]

I got to take my buddies bottle rocket down 9 miles of downhill trail on sunday. My other homie and him each bought one after they rode one at crankworks. And i have to say that after taking my simple down the trail, the bottlerocket was a badass smooth, haulin ass ride. But i guess any full suspension will be smoother than a hardtail. Sweet bikes transition crew!

[TRANSITION-MJR]

http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/839/pbpic839279.jpg

heres my dirtbag,
Since the picture has been taken I have swapped the monster for a 05 888rc, deity cranks for saints, and deity bars for sic camodized race bars.

I'll have newer pics up sometime.

nice rig, burly set up. the dirtbag is such a killer ride.

[flat broke]

Bjanga and Summit,

I finally got around to giving Transition a call. They were pretty firm on recommending a medium, so a medium it will be. Gotta wait a week to order, and the last white medium will probably be gone by then, so I'll more than likely end up with a black frame. Stoked to be moving on though. Now I just need to unload my NJF to put a little bit of that $$ back in the bank.

Chris

[ride26]

good luck dude ...you'll love it Transition is a sweet company that makes sweet bikes..just make sure to show us the pics

[allsk8sno]

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[ride26]

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?????I'm so confused

[bjanga]

Flat Broke, I have been too busy to really take a look at my positioning. When I am seated my shoulders / neck sit directly above or maybe just behind my bottom bracket (seat WAY up, post clamped at middle of the rails). The top cap of my headset points straight at my face. Standing, I think my shoulders fall over my hub (super short cockpit).

The large would probably be more stable at speed in super rough conditions because it would be easier to keep your weight back. But the super slack head angle will help with that anyways, and having a bike that is on the smaller side will help keep the bike nimble even with the DH bike head angle. That is how I see it.

[flat broke]

I just got back from Adrenaline Bikes a little while ago. They were able to get their hands on that last white medium. With any luck, it will be here before the weekend.

Chris

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"FLAT BROKE"
Congrats bro. on getting the bike you wanted, cant wait to see the build when its done. im sure you will be more than happy with your pick, rip it up bro. later.

[rainbow_smoke]

?????I'm so confused

my kid was typing apparently (6 months old)

[ride26]

my kid was typing apparently (6 months old)
now i get it:)

[bjanga]

I got an email from TBC the other day with a blurb about what they have planned for Eurobike:
We will be unveiling two new bikes at the show including our 5.5" travel all-mountain trail bike called the Covert and our new 3.5" travel dirt jump full suspension bike called the Double. All of the existing models will be on display as well and we have some very nice looking updates to many of the bikes, so there will be a ton to check out.
So I guess the Convert is the XC bike, the Preston is the light DH bike, and BR and Double are the DJ/Slopestyle bikes. Pretty full lineup.

[flat broke]

I saw that blurb on MTBR the other day. Any idea on the geo for the Double? Doesn't really matter as I already put the $$ down on the Vagrant, but hopefully there will be something about the Double that doesn't look good on paper to me so I don't get a nasty case of upgaditis in a few months. :D

The brown truck didn't have a white Vagrant on it when it stopped at Adrenaline today, so hopefully I'll have something to smile about on Monday.

Chris

[Alpinist]

Had it almost a year - couldn't be happier except the Van 36 does bottom too easy - looking to change the fork - would like a 66rc2x

[Del]

I just got my Preston FR in yesterday. I took it out for its first ride today around the streets and small trails of my town. It's awesome going to a full suspension ride after riding nothing but hardtails all my life. It's like riding a bike for the first time again - I want to know what everything feels like when I ride over it. And it feels good.

:)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/755/transitionwholeca6.png

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8418/transitionfrontsm6.png

Frame: 2006 Preston FR Large
Forks: Marzocchi Z1 FR III
Rear Shock: Manitou 4-Way

All other parts were cannibalized from my 2004 P.3.

[bjanga]

Del, nice looking Preston. I have ridden hardtails all my life too but the Preston has caught my eye . . . perhaps next summer . . .
Let us know your impressions once you get some more ride time on it :D


I got some serious ride time in on the Vagrant recently and was having a blast riding some slow steep rock/boulder gardens. The bike feels quite maneuverable and responsive, considering its length and slack head angle. I am also very comfortable riding back behind the saddle, so comfortable that I need to remember that it does no good to sit on the wheel :hot:. The BB height is high enough to clear nearly anything but is not so high that the bike feels unstable. If I could change the BB height, I wouldn't :).

On more open stuff (and in the rock gardens too now that I think about it), the bike just screams to go faster. I am still fiddling with my positioning on the bike, my wrists are stiff after those rocks and I think it is due to my bars being a bit off - I am going to try rotating them so they sweep upwards a bit more (or maybe I should ditch the flat bars). Maybe the cockpit is too small for me but my old hardtail had a smaller cockpit and I never got wrist pain . . .

Does anyone have bushing slop in their Z1? I have a 2006 Z1 Sport and the fork has a tiny bit of slop. I am unsure if I can feel it while riding, but I can feel it if I grab one stanchion and the lowers with my hand and rock the bike. At first I thought it was just a notchy feel due to sticky seals but now I think it is slop. I think this may have had something to do with the 'top out' I though I was feeling earlier. Otherwise, the fork feels great. I can get it to deflect when I slam into big rocks at odd angles but the fork feels stiffer than my old 5" QR Z1.

[Jackson06]

Just thought I would see what you guys think of my new rig.

[gadafi]

very nice....is that a Romic or Avy?
why didn't you wait for the 07 dirtbag?...i hope to get some pics in the next few days when the eurobike starts...

[Jackson06]

It is an avy. I oreded the bike back in may. It took forever to get it then I had trouble with the rocco. I ditched the rocco and went with the best. Is the 07 going to be differant?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"Jackson06"
very nice Dirtbag bro. you must be loving the new ride. i like that you put and Avy on it, you dont see that often. sweet rig.

[Jackson06]

Thanks MJR. My buddy got an avy and it was the Sh*t so I ditched the Roco and got one myself. It is the bomb. Oh yeah the Dirtbag took forever to get here not the avy. The avy only took about a week to get here.

[gadafi]

It is an avy. I oreded the bike back in may. It took forever to get it then I had trouble with the rocco. I ditched the rocco and went with the best. Is the 07 going to be differant?

i have no idea what the 07 will be like...i've heard it will have a 1.5" headtube...we will now in 3 days when Eurobike starts...

how does that avy feel?

[bjanga]

The blue on the Dirtbag is probably the sweetest color I have ever seen on a bike.

[Jackson06]

The avy feels great if great is a good enough word to use. Yeah I think the blue is sweet.

[flat broke]

Well, my Vagrant came in yesterday, and today I got a chance to build it up. It's 90% complete, but that didn't stop me from taking it for a spin and falling in love with it. I have to give a big thanks to Bjanga and Summit for puting up with all my nagging questions. The medium hit the spot and the second I threw a leg over her, I knew I'd done right. After essentially having an idea of how I wanted this HT to feel since Jan 05, I can't tell you how fufilling it is to be so happy with how this frame feels. I'll give some more input after I get some dirt miles on it.

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The only thing I have to do is get a different deraileur. It looks like I need a top swing unit to clear everything properly. No big deal as the cable housings etc. are all cut and ready to go. 10 minutes and it'll be done.

I also have to give props to Adrenaline bikes in Tustin. When I picked up the frame, I bought an FSA Pig 1.5-1.125 headset. Today when I opened the headset up, FSA had included the wrong race in the box. Adrenaline didn't have another race handy, so they took the guts of pig, and gave me a complete Cane Creek sealed unit at no extra cost. That move saved me time, gas money, and just made me a really happy guy, so I thought I'd share that with other peeps that might shop in SoCal.

Chris

[bjanga]

Nice! The white looks great! I think our bikes are exact opposites, color-wise :busted:

Be careful leaning it over on concrete, I leaned it so far on my second ride that I folded over my cornering knobs and left a four foot long scratch with my inside pedal :D

The top tube is kind of shortish for me but I am glad I went with the Medium. The bike is super stable at speed with your weight low and back and it absolutely murders rock gardens.

I have a top swing derailleur, I originally bolted on my friends bottom swing but I could not get it to shift so I ditched it. The fat chainstays get in the way of the front derailleur and rear derailleur a bit, I have a zip tie threaded through some rubber tubing (electrical tape wrapped around the tie would work too) that keeps the rear derailleur from bumping the chainstay.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"Flat Broke"
your bike is awesome, i think the white looks killer. its nice to see another happy customer of Transition Bikes, and its great to see that this forum and the fellow riders and fans of Transition helped you in making the right decision. rock on bro. enjoy the ride.

[Summit]

Nice setup broke! That's sick...stoked to hear how you like it on the trails. Took mine out the other night on my local XC loop and fell in love all over again. After about 45 minutes of climbing from my house, you get to the 'bobsled' DH - which is exactly as it sounds. A 1.6 mile long gully that has the most perfectly-manicured banks you can imagine. You get going so fast your body and bike are basically parallel to the ground below (horizontal) at the top of the berms. I've done it on my trail bike, 7" freeride bike, etc...but the Vagrant is by far the most fun - just soooo fast and balanced. :D

[flat broke]

The bike F'n Rocks! The geo is exactly what I was looking for. After having it out for a short spin on dirt (legs definitely need some work and will now get plenty) I can say that the thing tracks awesome and puts me in a great position for most anything except for climbing. The front got a little light on seated climbs, but my technique is also nonexistant, so that can't really all be attributed to the bike. Even with my crude DJ2 up front the bike tracks great, rails turns, and is really smooth for a HT.

I ended up with an X Gen front der, but to get it adjusted properly for my chainline, it just kisses the outer lug on the 2.5 minions in some situations. Not a big deal as I'm going to swap to some high rollers to shave rotating weight and make the thing pedal a little easier.

This is the first time I have been out on the dirt since I busted up my ankle, and this frame did nothing but inspire confidence and made me feel like I had been riding it for years. If someone had a tight budget and wanted to build a capable all mountain/freeride rig, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend this frame as a great "Do it all" base to start with.

I also want to thank Bjanga, Summit, and the crew at Transition again for pounding it into my head that I didn't really need the large frame despite my desire for a long top tube. The medium fits so well it's amazing and I'm nothing but stoked about this thing. Now I just want to get my legs back, and take this thing more and more places. Hopefully I'll be able to work into a Pike or Z1 on the cheap and finish up what is already a pretty nice package.

Kinda off topic, but what are some good recommendations for a comfy seat that doesn't get in the way. I weigh 250, so a perimeter framed setup with decent pading/flex/gel in the middle seems to work better than tons of padding on a plastic shell.

Chris

[4xBoy]

Where are Transition frames made?

[bjanga]

The bike F'n Rocks!
I am glad to hear that . . . I thought I liked longer top tubes until I pulled the trigger and rode the Vagrant :)

You are going to like the way a taller, squishier fork feels on there too. You might even want something heavier than a Z1, I do sometimes :biggrin:

[ride26]

well I got home late from work today...bumed out untill I check my messages...my LBS called to let me know my Preston showed up today:cheers: ....I need to try to get down there tomorrow beforw they close to pick it up ....can't wait to complete it and hit the trails:banana:

[Del]

well I got home late from work today...bumed out untill I check my messages...my LBS called to let me know my Preston showed up today:cheers: ....I need to try to get down there tomorrow beforw they close to pick it up ....can't wait to complete it and hit the trails:banana:

Have fun with it - I love my Preston :happydance:

It pedals so much better than my P.3 and when I need to make it stick to the ground, it sticks. But when I need to get in the air it leaves that ground so easily.

[sethimus]

Where are Transition frames made?

there was a story about their partner in south asia on their site, imho taiwan

[flat broke]

I'm pretty sure they are made in Taiwan, but a quick call to Transition would get you a straight answer from the source. I'm all for buying American when I can and I feel that there are still some companies/people here that are better with tools of the trades than in any other nation on earth. That being said, the welds on my Vagrant are just as tight and actually more consistent than the ones on my New Jack Flash, and that thing was scary clean as far as weld quality. The welds on those two frames are noticably cleaner than any Spcialized, Giant, KHS, or Kona I have personally seen or ridden If you're stressing about the quality of Transition bikes, don't.

Chris

[Mike.rider]

i have a 06 Preston fr and an 06 trail or park and absolutly love both bikes.

http://www.transitionbikes.com/Gallery/Gallery_MikeSmithGap3.jpg
http://www.transitionbikes.com/Gallery/Gallery_mikesmithWhistlerWallRide.jpg

specs on the preston -

fox 36 talas rc2 raceface diablos everything x.9 drive with evil DRS sun mtx rims on dtswiss hubs maxxis 2.35 minions

i dont have pics of the hardtail becuse i just got it bit its about the same as everyones.

[DirtBag]

Here is my Bottlerocket ride:

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5659/dcp1892to5.jpg
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/7530/dcp1893ef6.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7610/dcp1894ch1.jpg

[arboc!]

i got my dirtbag frame today, i cant wait to built it up

[allsk8sno]

no kidding!! i can't wait for my fork!! still don't have it...i am starting to not like marz customer service...almost 4weeks now

[ride26]

no kidding!! i can't wait for my fork!! still don't have it...i am starting to not like marz customer service...almost 4weeks now

that sucks

[TRANSITION-MJR]

dirtbag
nice BR, the specs look sweet. i love that bike, how are you liking it so far? if i didnt have a Preston FR and a Dirtbag im sure i would have one, but all my need are covered with the ones i have.

[mandown]

dirtbag - nice bottlerocket!

[arboc!]

no kidding!! i can't wait for my fork!! still don't have it...i am starting to not like marz customer service...almost 4weeks now
im going with a fox 36 van on mine

[mandown]

36 Van rules!

[allsk8sno]

felt a friends and it was way too linear for my tastes. i figure the 66sl has tons of adjustments...which i like. and should be able to make it nice a progressive, along with my DHX coil

[sickbullit]

i'm running an 06 66SL, and it's progressive as a mofo...lost of twisties and turnies to keep you happy.

I did clank it a couple of times at high speeds, in Keystone but it was a quick fix.

they take a good while to get broken in and dialed...you will run way more neg and way less pos at the beginning to get it to feel smooth.

and do not neglect the PAR...it helps with the bottoming/progressiveness.

[jpk1080]

hello. seems like many of you own and are knowledgeable of transitions line. i'm considering a transition frame as well. i'm leaning towards the bottlerocket or the dirtbag, but have also been considering the preston. i live in nc and do a lot of techincal riding as well as freeriding, but both aspects require lengthly climbs. love the bottlerocket, but from what i've read, its not designed for this and has a relatively short seat tube. for this reason i kind of changed direction, and was looking at the dirtbag. it only weighs a few more lbs than the bottlerocket, but offers a few more inches of travel so i thought the trade off was probably worth it, espeically if the dirtbag is a good climber. i'm kind of undecided as to what size i should get though. i'm 6'2, currently ride a med. cannondale jekyll. as of now, i'm thinking large, but i'd just hate to buy this frame, and feel like i'm stretched out, etc. i've heard that transition frames run small anyways, so any insight into this would be awesome. thanks for any help or suggestions.

[flat broke]

One of the guys with a Preston or Dirtbag can elaborate on this with personal experience, but I'd venture to say that the Preston is a more versatile bike in terms of going up and down when compared to the rest of the full susp line.

All too often we play our needs up in our head to justify buying a bigger/badder ride. Take a peek on the Transition site at some of the vids of the Preston and ask yourself, "do I go bigger than that?" If the answer is yes, then perhaps a Dirtbag is in order.

After you do that, then call the guys at Transition. They are very accomodating with questions etc. They actually ride the bikes, so their input isn't just regurgitated from a catalogue spec. I almost second guessed their recommendation on my frame size, but in the end went with what they recommended and I couldn't be happier.

Chris

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"Jpk1080"
to give you a little insight i own a Dirtbag and a Preston FR, both bikes rock...... flat broke made a good point, check out the videos on Transitions web-site, compare what you see to what you ride and definetly call the guys at Transition, they know there stuff and will do wonders in helping. that being said, it sounds like you will be better off with the Preston, I am finding that the Preston covers all of my needs with no problem it can take the bigger stuf, and can climb like a mountian goat. the 2006 Preston is set up with 2 rear travel settings, 4" and 4.75" and rides like it has more. Transition has reamped the Preston and it will now have more travel, they bumped it up to a full 5" of rear travel. so now youll have a little more squish like the Bottle Rocket, but you also have the Frame geometry to climb up the mountain you want to smoke down. im 5'-8" and i have a med. and it fits me perfect. The Dirtbag is my "big hit" bike, i dont have it set up to do climbs right now so i dont try, but i did run it with a dual ring up front for a while and it can climb but its not easy, the rear suspension can be dialed in with a good rear shock but its not in my opinion a frame designed with doing big climbs in mind. the Preston really is a do it all bike, and it has been improved even more for the new year. if you have any other questions or concerns please ask, im happy to try and help, but make sure you call Transition, Kevin, Kyle and Cam will help you out and hook you up.

[ride26]

yeah like Transition said, give TBC a call they are real helpful and can help point you in right path..I also own a Dirtbag and a Preston both sweet bikes ..I'm 5'6'' and I ride a small in both frames
good luck

[jpk1080]

thanks the for the advice. i have seen a few pics of the new preston. looks like they've made some changes to the shock positioning. anyone aware of any other changes for 2007?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

Transition will be releasing 2 new frames, one is called the Double, designed for 4x, and DJ, the other is the Covert, this bike is geared more towards the Epic cross country rides. this might not be totally accurate but it is what i have gathered so far, they will have the new bikes posted on the web soon. The Preston has been tweaked alittle as far as the Geometry goes giving it a little more rear travel, not sure really if they have done anything else, hard to improve on a bike that is perfect already. make sure you keep us posted when you decide to get a new rig.

[jpk1080]

i will. you guys have been more than helpful. initially i thought the bottlerocket was ideal but after reading some post, despite how much i like it, it doesn't sound like its for me. naturally having just come from a big bike, i looked into the dirtbag, but only recently have i started considering the preston. as of now i think i've narrowed it down to the dirtbag, sc heckler, and the preston. i'd love an intense 6.6 but they just cost a god awful amount of money. thanks again.

[DirtBag]

I agree that the tt feels short on the BR, but I still use it for all purpose riding. Drop the seat and point downhill and the bike feels as good as my Demo-9 on the big stuff.

I think I have to change my user name now that I sold the Dirtbag.:biggrin:

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"JPK1080"
I would pick the Preston over the Heckler. i owned a Heckler before i bought my Preston and its a nice bike, but i think the Preston feels so much better and wont cost you as much to have a sweet build. you cant beat Transitions customer service or warranty, which they really back up. but again thats just one opinion, and the Heckler is a nice rig.

[jpk1080]

man, decisions decisions. now that dirtbag is saying the bottlerocket is a sufficient climber, its not making it any easier. i agree wiht you MJR about the heckler. santa cruz just isn't what it used to be. increased prices, ****ty warranty, questionable quality it seems on some. you really can't beat a lifetime crash replacement policy. i like the preston. if i did decide on it, i'd want the 07 which would be difficult to wait for. the only thing i'm wondering. i currently ride a cdale jekyll, 2003 wiht slightly over 4 inches of travel. i wanted something that felt a little more plush in the back, so i question if the 5 will be enough.

[Greyhound]

I'm a NC resident and have had nothing but fun on my 05 Preston. Before that, I had a Bullit, and the Preston feels like it has more travel than the Bullit ever did. I'm in central NC, and we have a lot of short, steep climbs that the Preston handles quite easily. When I head up to Pisgah, the Preston really, really shows its versatility. You can bomb the DH with no reservations on wether the bike can take it--feels like you have 7 or 8 inches of travel underneath you. Good small-bump sensitivity and, of course, takes the big hits like a DH bike. I can't wait for the 07 Prestons to hit the market. As sson as they're out, the 05 is going up for sale.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

the Preston does ride like a bigger travel bike than it really is, no doubt about it. it sound like all thats left for you to do is call Transition, once you talk to them you will know what you want, they know there stuff. to bad you didnt live near me, id let you take my Preston and the Dirtbag out to try, one sure way to figure it all out, jump on the saddle and rip it up.

[jpk1080]

yeah i'd love to test ride them. unfortunately, there aren't many dealers here. i live in orlando,fl now but grew up in asheville, nc. miss that place tremendously. i can't believe SC's warranty policy is now only 2 years, 3 for the crash replacement vs. transitions lifetime. make this a pretty easy decision, i just wish it were a little easier deciding which one i'd enjoy most. i hate to have to wait until spring to get my hands on an 07 preston. i guess they have several 06 dirtbags available now, but no bottlerockets until oct.

[ride26]

I'm not sure how far from you this place is but there is a dealer in FL
http://www.atlanticbicycle.com/

[mandown]

hello. seems like many of you own and are knowledgeable of transitions line. i'm considering a transition frame as well. i'm leaning towards the bottlerocket or the dirtbag, but have also been considering the preston. i live in nc and do a lot of techincal riding as well as freeriding, but both aspects require lengthly climbs. love the bottlerocket, but from what i've read, its not designed for this and has a relatively short seat tube. for this reason i kind of changed direction, and was looking at the dirtbag. it only weighs a few more lbs than the bottlerocket, but offers a few more inches of travel so i thought the trade off was probably worth it, espeically if the dirtbag is a good climber. i'm kind of undecided as to what size i should get though. i'm 6'2, currently ride a med. cannondale jekyll. as of now, i'm thinking large, but i'd just hate to buy this frame, and feel like i'm stretched out, etc. i've heard that transition frames run small anyways, so any insight into this would be awesome. thanks for any help or suggestions.

my vote - bottlerocket. at 6'2" get the large. the seattube is long enough that you can get XC leg extension with a long seatpost (I am 6'1"). the large cockpit feels great for climbing. mine weighs in at 40lbs. the right build could shave another 2-4 lbs off.

i just did a weekend in mammoth. the bike felt great. it corners like a dream. i did not miss having more travel. however, i don't huck much. just my 2cents.

oh yeah, go through santiago at atlantic bicycle. no sales tax in fl :)

[jpk1080]

thanks for all the input. i ended up ordering the bottlerocket in black in size large. i'm most likely going to go with the dhx coil over the air, but still am undecided. i had a few other questions concerning this frame. one i wanted to make sure the rear dropout could still fit a standard quick release. also, i know this frame is FD compatiable, but wanted to also make sure i could run 3 chainrings. lastly, i was curious what people are doing about the headsets. i see several options. one being a normal fsa headset with the reducers. another being an fsa headset that i guess has the reducers built in already. i was curious what some of you are using and if you could provide me with specific links if possible to your headset. thank you.

[mandown]

go coil (my own bias against air).
standard qr rear.
i got two rings and a bash, you can run all three.
i am running a fsa orbit xtreme headset. it reduces 1.5 to 1 1/8 (see goride.com)

[flat broke]

On the headset deal, both Cane Creek and FSA make 1.5 to 1.125 adapter headsets that aren't too expensive. All the parts are setup with O.D.s that would be fore a 1.5 setup, but the ID of anything going around the steerer is 1.125. If you have a headset that you just HAVE to use, then use the reducer cups, but if not, no sense in adding another interference fit that may decide to loosen up over time. If you are buying new, the cost of a 1.125 headset and the reducers is more than a 1.5 to 1.125 headset. One last thought, get pricing from Transition on the shock and the headset with the frame. It might work out cheaper than buying those items from your lbs.

Chris

[TRANSITION-MJR]

I would also go with the DHX coil, i have the DHX 5.0 on my Dirtbag and it is a sweet shock, i also have the Swinger 4-way coil on my Preston, also a good shock, im not a fan of air rear shocks. the FSA orbit xtreme is a nice all in one headset and you can get it from Transition for a nice price, they stock it. oh and by the way, copngrats on your purchase, the BR is a killer bike, wish i had one in my collection.

[jpk1080]

thanks for the advice. i ended up going with the dhx coil. i checked out go ride. i found the fsa dh pig i think that comes with the reducers for like 40 bucks i believe if i'm looking at the right thing. trying to get this build below 2000 bucks. i'm probabliy going to have to end up getting that 05' z1 fr 3 zocchi off pricepoint along with a 150 wheelset or so, then pray i can find a cheap build kit somewhere with some decent brakes. MJR thanks for the congratulations. i'm sure you'll be able to line up a BR sometime soon. can't part out the dirtbag?

[bjanga]

If you want a low stack height, you can run e-13 reducers and a Cane creek IS-2 internal headset (FSA makes an internal head set, too). Cane creek also makes a flush all-in-1 reducer headset.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

Just thought i would post a picture of the Preston in action, hitting the dirt jumps at my parents house. picture is kinda blurry, sorry.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

Sweeeeeeaaaat!!! you all have to check out the new and improved web site, Transitionbikes.com. new rigs, new threads, everything looks killer, employee Brad Walton has even released his line of clothing, Spectrum Tech Wear, check it all out. you will not be dissapointed.

[EOBF]

Just get it built up tonight, but I am now part of the Transition Family. Can't wait to ride.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

EBOF
that is a sweet T.O.P. welcome to the family bro.

[Greyhound]

I was running through some pics on my camera and found these......my 05 Preston.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jodyb/MiscPics004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jodyb/MiscPics010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/jodyb/MiscPics014.jpg

[ride26]

alright guys I have question/problem
I got my Preston all put together today
I have a 2006 Preston FR...the frame is the 2006 before they changed the frame set-up...I wanted to know out of the 2 holes on the the linkage plate what is the setting for each hole ..I have the shock mounted in the lower hole and I bottomed out left and right..I only weight about 160-165 lbs???

[joelsman]

the lower hole is the 5in position and the upper is 4in

look at greyhound's preston, ^, he has his in the 5in position. you need a heavier spring to run in the 5in position.

[ride26]

any suggestions on what spring to to use when in the 5 inch pos.?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

yeah the lower hole is the 5" setting my weight is 160 and im running a swinger 4-way coil on my 2006 Preston. my spring weight is a 600x1.5 but then you have the air assist to help as well, the shock performs flawlessly. what shock are you running on your Preston?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

if you are running a romic on your Preston youll probably need around a 500#-600# spring, check with "greyhound" see what his weight is, looks like he has a 700# spring on his rig.

[Greyhound]

Yeppers.....#700 spring is what I'm running. I rarely ever bottom it out and I'm right at 200lbs. I like the 5 in. setting the best. The 4 in. setting is just fine, but the overall feel is more balanced with the Z1 up front in the 5in. setting.

[DNA]

I'm looking at a couple of used Preston's, but I can't find old geo charts.

Does anyone know if there are any differences geometry-wise among an '04, '05 and '06?

[TRANSITION-MJR]

pretty sure the geometry of the Preston stayed the same 04-06.

[ride26]

I'm running a Manitou 4-way with a 500X1.5 spring...I'm 165lbs..I guess I need a 600lb spring...

[TRANSITION-MJR]

yeah im 160lbs and im running a 600# spring. i dont have any problems with bottoming, make sure you are running proper air pressure as well.

[Mike.rider]

the geometry changed a little between 04 and 06, the 04s and 05s are close and have alittle more all mountain feel, its a steeper headangle by 1/2 a degree i think and the 06 is alittle more freeridish
i have an 06 and 2 of my friends have 05s there very simmilar but the rocker arms make a diferance in the feel of the bike alittle.

[RideHard]

I have been watchin this for awhile, I might post my transitions up if I feel up to it. The 04 preston HAS THE BEST GEO of ANY of the prestons made period. What has been said is correct. The 05 was alittle more slacked out and came with stock 4 or 5inch plates. The 04 was the last year made with v brake and disc brake tabs. The feel on the 04 is unmatched and unsuprassed imo from anyother preston up to date. I run a 160mm 36 on mine to slack it out a bit and give it a little rake and it feels unreal. It eats up djs, dh, hucks, you name it.


As a add-on my Gran Mal is for sale, pm me with interest

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"RideHard"
hey how is the new rear end working out for you? any problems since the replacement? i have a Fox 36 on mine and it feels amazing, i love the Preston, its such an amazing bike.

[RideHard]

No probblems at all since replacement man, the bike handles even nicer with the fox up front..... I will get some pics of just the preston up tonight, please mind that unlike some-people I do ride my bikes so its far from immaculate/spotless.

[RideHard]

I found up some dirt on my preston for a previous post, I apologize for the length but it should give you some idea on my set-up.

It feels unreal

The List:

04 Preston FR (Proto/best geo of all prestons made)
06 fox 36van
06 Avid Juicy 7's
Dangerboy 2finger gripped levers
Sic classic 50mm stem
Sram x9 shifter pods
Sram x9 rear derailer
E13 Drs/SRS
Shimano lx front derailer (on its way out)
Odi Ruffin Grips
Walmart no name bars
Fsa Pig dh headset
2003 Mavic deemax
maxxis 2.35 minions 60d compound
shimano xtr cassette
Kmc chain
e13 34t guidering
Shimano Saint cranks
Azonic A-Frame peds
Dabomb seatpost
Wtb TI rail dh lazer V seat

RIP man, we still remember

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/5762/dsc03916ro9.jpg

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/4528/dsc03914lh0.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3752/dsc03915ya4.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9677/dsc03917dj1.jpg

[ride26]

http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/2263/bike001ob7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2627/bike002ls9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"RideHard"
sweet rig, love the specs and it looks super sweet with the fox up front. im loving my Preston, and i love the Fox 36 the bike feels so amazing, it rides like a big travel bike but pedals like a hybrid. it takes all of the abuse i can give it.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"ride26"
yet another sick Preston FR, NICE!! have you had a chance to rip it up yet on it? how do you like the Travis?

[demolition dave]

Finally got'er done.............

http://www.freeridesouth.com/pics/pictures/9374.jpg

[mandown]

sick-a-licious!

[***MTB***]

sorry to jack the thread, but i just have a quick question. i was looking to buy a bottlerocket. i know it can freeride and jumps great, but how does it ride uphill or on the occasional xc ride??

[Mike.rider]

if you wana ride uphill and do hard freeriding go take alook at the preston, its more than capable and pedals well.

[mandown]

the bottlerocket pedals well. i am running mine with a 11-28 cogset and a 22/34 (maybe a 24/36, i forget) front combo. you notice it is a few pounds heavier than ideal (mine is 40lbs). however, with the dhx 5.0's propedal turned on the bike will go uphill pretty well. i am 6'1" and i went with the large frame so i could get enough seattube/seatpost combo for full leg extension.

i know lots of people pimp the preston, but i don't like the one i rode. i met a guy who had one (not sure which model year) and he let me put a leg over it. i am much happier with the bottlerocket's handling. that said, i also rode my bud's medium bottlerocket (remember, i ride a large) and i did not like the feel. it was too small for me to XC on. it also felt too small to DH on. of course, that is just my experience. my bud (who is a bit shorter than me) loves his and will pedal it.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

ok, for all you Transition fans looking for a bike shop on the East Coast that carries Transitions line of bikes and goodies, My buddy Rick is opening a new store, its called "Endless Trail Bike Worx" its located is Dobbsferry, NY about 15 min. from Manhattan. it will be open this November. make contact by phone, (914) 674-8567. support your addiction and his shop.

[EOBF]

My updated ToP.

[TRANSITION-MJR]

NICE T.O.P. i love that color. looks like you have a steller place to D.J. must be nice.

[RideHard]

I hate to do it buuuuut....

http://www.bustedspoke.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?t=29946

[ride26]

alright who here has a bottlerocket?
I need some info/feedback
anyone here hit the dh and big mountains on one?

[mandown]

alright who here has a bottlerocket?
I need some info/feedback
anyone here hit the dh and big mountains on one?

no dh races on mine, but i have hit mammoth on it. i have no questions about what it can handle. i would dh race it. i would whistler it. i have a dhx 5.0 coil and a 36 vanR on the front. i have 2.4 maxxis advantage tires, and a dual ring & bash setup. the bike weighs in at 40lbs. it would be easy to get it closer to 36lbs and it would still be tough as nails.

you do notice the 5.5 inches in the back in a few situations. however, i have yet to curse the bike for not having enough travel.

any specific questions?

[ride26]

no dh races on mine, but i have hit mammoth on it. i have no questions about what it can handle. i would dh race it. i would whistler it. i have a dhx 5.0 coil and a 36 vanR on the front. i have 2.4 maxxis advantage tires, and a dual ring & bash setup. the bike weighs in at 40lbs. it would be easy to get it closer to 36lbs and it would still be tough as nails.

you do notice the 5.5 inches in the back in a few situations. however, i have yet to curse the bike for not having enough travel.

any specific questions? I wasn't planning on doing any DH races with it I just wanted to get an opinion on how it held up for DH so I could use it at the big mountains

thanks for the info

[TRANSITION-MJR]

im selling my Dirtbag, would like to get a Bottle Rocket. there is a thread posted under the full suspension classifieds section. make me an offer if interested or feel free to contact me with any questions.

[ride26]

im selling my Dirtbag, would like to get a Bottle Rocket. there is a thread posted under the full suspension classifieds section. make me an offer if interested or feel free to contact me with any questions.

hahaha... I'm doing the same thing..I selling my dirtbag frame fork and extras as well so I can get a bottlerocket

[TRANSITION-MJR]

"ride26"
right on Bro.

[oscerthegrouch]

Just updated my ToP for the 07 season. upgraded to 07 DJ2, new Arrow front wheel, new grips, new brake lever and best of all new seat.
http://www.freeridesouth.com/pics/pictures/9611.jpg
http://www.freeridesouth.com/pics/pictures/9610.jpg

[digger]

OMFG! The neon pink housing and the neon yellow hurt my eyes way too much to compliment your ride...... no wait, it is a transition. Nice ride but ugly colors you threw on it

[oscerthegrouch]

I like my ugly colors I think it pulls the whole bike together and represents me well.

[mandown]

oscer - what tires are those?

[oscerthegrouch]

Maxxis Larson Oriflamme... I found a new set laying around at the shop and they looked perfect for my use. Saddly Maxxis doesn't make these tires anymore.:banghead:

[ride26]

I like it ..alot.. looks like a ride fun

[dexter]

love those tires, thought i was the only person who ever ran em on a street bike

[TRANSITION-MJR]

ok, i am now selling both of my bike, 2006 preston fr and 2006 dirtbag. pictures of both are on the first post in this thread can also get all info from the full suspension classifieds, selling complete bikes or i can part them out. my riding locations have changed and so has my interests and riding stlye, need cash for a bottle rocket and a T.O.P. know anyone interested, spread the word. thanks guys

[McGRP01]

I want a Covert!!!!!!

[ride26]

Transition-MJR...sending you a pm

[arboc!]

my top with a few more upgrades and a downgrade.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/enjoisk8s89/bikey001.jpg
i should have my new fork in a week(ish)

[arboc!]

and the final peice of my dirtbag puzzle (hubs) should be in very shortly too, so more pr0n to come!

[TRANSITION-MJR]

is there anyone interested in my bikes??? i cant beilieve they havent sold yet, am i asking to much? complete Preston and a complete Dirtbag, both are 2006 with nice specs. im asking $1800 obo for each, pictures of the bikes are up on the first post for this thread. any interest? of feedback? help me out.

[ridefast]

hey oscer...what housing is that? brand?

anyone else know if it is offered in other colors?

[Mike.rider]

that looks like its a wrap for the cable, i have some shrink wrap tubing on the way to my house right now for my TOP and Preston, check out http://cableorganizer.com/uv-reactive/#B for options, i got the 3/8 in but thats for 2 cables for just brake 1/4 in should fit fine. ill put some pics up when my stuff gets here.

[arboc!]

without further adu...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/enjoisk8s89/newbikey002.jpg


tipping the scales at 37# and some change
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/enjoisk8s89/newbikey006.jpg

[oscerthegrouch]

I used to work for cableorganizer.com which is where i got my cable wrap. It would be great to wrap a break cable and a derailer cable together.

[Mike.rider]

I used to work for cableorganizer.com which is where i got my cable wrap. It would be great to wrap a break cable and a derailer cable together.

sweet im gona use the shrink tube to wrap my derailer and brake to replace the zip ties on both my bikes and use some on the cables over the rocker arms to protect it ill get pics when im done.


arboc!'s dirtbag weighs the same as my preston lol, it was nice to meet you this weekend at beacon man enjoy the new bike. although i do have tubless tires and DH tubes in right now and a dirtbag rearend so that adds some weight.

[arboc!]

i got another set of saints, and now they are way blingin'
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/enjoisk8s89/bikeherd007.jpg

[TRANSITION-MJR]

my new pink bottlerocket is on its way, will have some eye candy posted as soon as i have it built up.

[McGRP01]

Will be ordering my Covert by the end of the month!! Woohoooo! Will post pics as soon as it's in my possession!! :banana:

[ridefast]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/ncsukeaton/bottlerocket007.jpg

new toy!

[arboc!]

pimpin

[mandown]

is that outlet 110 or 220?

[ridefast]

110 unfortunately....otherwise you'd see a millermatic 210 sitting in place of that bottlerocket ;)

i cant express how impressed i am with this bike

i feel sorry for all the owners that bought theirs painted, the raw finish absolutely makes the bike

completely unbeliveable how crazy the workmanship on this thing is

[DNA]

I posted mine in the GMT, but not here. I got it used from another Monkey.

http://www.ridemonkey.com/mountain-bike-photos/data/500/3889preston.jpg

[mtb527]

Just updated my ToP for the 07 season. upgraded to 07 DJ2, new Arrow front wheel, new grips, new brake lever and best of all new seat.
http://www.freeridesouth.com/pics/pictures/9611.jpg
http://www.freeridesouth.com/pics/pictures/9610.jpg

dude badass i just got one of the white trail or park frames in yesterday!!!!! but i am not supposed to know about it:brows: I am putting some white halo rims on it with green profile hubs!!!! ohhh yummmy i will get pics up when it is finished

[TRANSITION-MJR]

RIDEFAST

Nice ride, i cant wait to get mine, you should post some more pictures. what does yours weigh in at? how is the new marzocchi feel it looks killer.

[ridefast]

as it sits in the picture it weighs in at 38.1 lbs

as for changes.....i plan to lose the front shifter and der.
also, lighter tires, some real pedals and possibily the new holzfeller oct crank...not sure on that yet though

as for the fork, it is amazing. i am headin out now to get it tuned, but the ride home from the shop last night was a real eye-opening experience as far as fork ride quality and feel

ive got to say that this is one of the most amazingly constructed frames ive seen, the build quality is stunning....i feel sorry for anyone that bought this frame painted, the raw finish really makes the bike in my opinion

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/ncsukeaton/bottlerocket016.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/ncsukeaton/bottlerocket014.jpg

[WKC]

Just updated my ToP for the 07 season. upgraded to 07 DJ2, new Arrow front wheel, new grips, new brake lever and best of all new seat.
http://www.freeridesouth.com/pics/pictures/9611.jpg


Dude what did you wrap your hydro hose in???

[spa69]

301 area code for MD

[oscerthegrouch]

Dude what did you wrap your hydro hose in???

Cable wrap from cableorganizer.com

[muddy beast]

Cable wrap from cableorganizer.com

What wrap exactly did you use? Im having trouble finding something I would use on my bike cables.

[McGRP01]

I posted mine in the GMT, but not here. I got it used from another Monkey.

http://www.ridemonkey.com/mountain-bike-photos/data/500/3889preston.jpg

Is that Sorgie's old bike? Nice ride!! :thumb:

[DNA]

Is that Sorgie's old bike? Nice ride!! :thumb:

Yes it is and I am very happy with it :biggrin:!

When does yours arrive?

[McGRP01]

Yes it is and I am very happy with it :biggrin:!

When does yours arrive?

Awesome! I got to ride it a bit this summer before he sold it. Felt great! My covert should be hitting my LBS in a couple weeks!! :thumb:

[TRANSITION-MJR]

i was dreaming about my new BottleRocket so i decided to mess around with my program. just wanted to put it out there.

[ride26]

that is some nice looking cad work

[Jackson06]

New member of my Transition family

[TRANSITION-MJR]

Jackson06 that is a nice T.O.P. simple, clean and oh so sweet.

[Sam B]

Hahaha... I thought this was funny. My bike looks stolen after that other poster with the pic against the tree....
http://www.cavalryclothing.com/bikes/tranny.jpg
http://www.cavalryclothing.com/bikes/gapstem.jpg

Back in the spring... right after it's first little ride. Then I was hurt all summer. New cranks...everything else is the same. Works great.

[thad]

Damn, that bike is fugly.

[tommysoccer86]

yeah it is...i'm thinking about getting a white trail and park or a soul loki or roscoe....both are great companies...you gotta think though, the trail and park frame are basically bmx frames, just trade out your fork and put in a suspension one er no?

[mandown]

Damn, that bike is HOT!

sorry, your post was broken. i fixed it. :clapping:

[Sam B]

Damn, that bike is as fugly as me.

I actually agree with you.... I always think large size frames look funny. Why do you think I rode undersize bikes for so long? Actually, this bike/setup is the best FR bike I have owned. It's the more versatile than anything I've had before.

Do you still have the bullit? E-mail my work address sometime...

[TRANSITION-MJR]

hey just to keep you Transition fans up to date, they are now offering 4 color options for the TBC Revolutions wheels. Black, White, Red and Brown. available in about 2 weeks.

[mandown]

pics?

[Mike.rider]

http://www.transitionbikes.com/2007/images/Gallery_Preston10.jpg

these are on the preston Brad built up, i belive they were supose to be gold, but they are just early prototypes.

[evox15]

Here's my dirtbag.

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p17/evox15/My_Transition_Dirtbag.jpg

[Mike.rider]

little update, finally got some good pictures.
my preston

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/mikeriderfr/IMG_0518-1.jpg

my top

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/mikeriderfr/IMG_0538.jpg

my truck at the trail head with neils BR heather and my Prestons and Heathers Gran Mal

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/mikeriderfr/IMG_0496-1.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/mikeriderfr/IMG_0497-1.jpg

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p112/mikeriderfr/IMG_0495-1.jpg

between the three of us we have:
Gran mal
Dirtbag (not pictured)
Bottle Rocket
2 Prestons
Trail or park

[ZHendo]

a raw bottlerocket, mmmmm

[bent^biker]

yeah, sst represent

[TRANSITION-MJR]

mike.rider dude nice rigs, i love seeing a truck all loaded up with bikes, especially one from my favorite company. right on bro.

[Mike.rider]

mike.rider dude nice rigs, i love seeing a truck all loaded up with bikes, especially one from my favorite company. right on bro.

thanks man you should see it on shuttle days my best is nine transitions and a norco all on my truck, good times!

[Lumagent Morple]

Here's my Bottlerocket. Still waitin on a 36, but the Pike actually does the job well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Alpenglowing8/DSC00145.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v469/Alpenglowing8/DSC00144.jpg

[bent^biker]

those look suspiciously like a drop to flat and a jump to flat you have your br propped on. :plthumbsdown: you wouldn't do that to a transition would you? :shocked:

[mandown]

sick bottlerocket.
i love the green and gold combo.
i liked my bottlerocket with a pike. it is plenty of fork for most rides. unless you do some crazy dh/huck/jump stuff, i would say stick with the pike. i bought my 36Van first, then tried the pike later. if i had tried the pike first, i might have passed on the 36.

[Lumagent Morple]

Yea, there's a tranny we built behind the jump that you can't see in the pic. I would never disgrace the Bottlerocket with a drop or a jump to flat. About the Pike - I just got a Sovereign that I'll probably throw the Pike on, so I'll need to get something new for the Transition (which is where the 36 comes into play).

[mandown]

consider a Talas (or another shock with travel adjust like a domain/lyrik) as you may find, as i did, that in some situations the shorter front end feels better.

[f0ggy]

consider a Talas (or another shock with travel adjust like a domain/lyrik) as you may find, as i did, that in some situations the shorter front end feels better.

I second this, my friend got a nomad, similar bike I think, and its really nice because you can lower the travel down to 100, and rip corners, dirtjumps and such, then turn it up all the way and blast down, downhill its an awesome fork, the 36 talas is where its at

[mattmatt86]

I really want a BR, but what is the current wait list for one? somethin like 2 months?

[gmac]

I've seen a couple used BRs online.

[Mike.rider]

I really want a BR, but what is the current wait list for one? somethin like 2 months?

they have most sizes in stock of the bottle rocket, the only wait is for the new prestons and dirtbags. give them a call on monday and find out

[mx/mtb]

I realy want to get a t.o.p. when i get the money.

[oscerthegrouch]

Got a new frame for the 07 season. According to my shop guy it's a one of a kind color with a little story behind it. If anyone from transition reads this forum it would be nice to know if this story is true.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/ian_frs/Picture001-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/ian_frs/Picture002-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/ian_frs/Picture003-1.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/ian_frs/Picture004-1.jpg

[Mike.rider]

[QUOTE=oscerthegrouch;2443476]Got a new frame for the 07 season. According to my shop guy it's a one of a kind color with a little story behind it. If anyone from transition reads this forum it would be nice to know if this story is true.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p78/ian_frs/Picture001-1.jpg

the Blue vagrent was a special run of colors, very few of them were made,i belive it was 10 or 12 frames that were blue. so its not one of a kind but close. looks great by the way.

[oscerthegrouch]

Thats what I thought but my shop guy went into a whole thing about it being somone at transitions custom color frame for their girlfriend and then they broke up so he some how got the frame. I wanted to laugh in his face when he told me that but he gave me a good deal on it so I held it in.

[Mike.rider]

well they are doing transparent electric blue as a production color this year. as seen here:
http://www.transitionbikes.com/2007/images/VagrantColors.jpg

and this is the special run color from last year:

http://www.transitionbikes.com/Gallery/Gallery_VagrantBlueLimited.jpg

[oscerthegrouch]

Ju