View Full Version : Want to know why Aussies are so fast?
top_dog
07-24-2006, 04:10 PM
Because we ride gnarcore tracks with sketchy blown out corners. Just getting up to the top of the hill is hard enough. Pushing Toyota Landcruisers up hills is hard work:D (when the rain started there is no traction for the 4WD's).
This vid is of the Kenilworth DH Classic in QLD. $1000 elite purse and heaps good prizes all round. The track was really hard with heaps and heaps of hairpins and a 30ft gap etc...
I am the one titled Geezer, if you care.
The kid who won U/19's on the bright green V10 is only 14. How fast is he going to be when he goes to world in 4 years.:D
Quality of vid is bad, but have dialup. Enjoy
http://www.eengoedidee.nl/videoz/mountainbike/kworthlow.wmv
partsbara
07-24-2006, 04:39 PM
you guys just wish you were as fast as the west aussies :)
can t see the vid, ya need to me a member..
metalhead119042
07-24-2006, 04:53 PM
^Just sign up, takes 2 seconds and an email verification.
dante
07-24-2006, 05:00 PM
vegemite?
bpatterson6
07-24-2006, 05:17 PM
vegemite?
Crap Quality but great footage. :thumb:
I enjoyed all the aussie versions of ooooo's and ohhhhhh's
and "pedal mate" and "get off the brakes"...
Nice nice vid! :thumb:
digger
07-24-2006, 05:40 PM
I would agree, it is a great vid! However, if you think you aussies are fast all you really need are a couple of USA beginning racers to run that course and then you would see fast! :D:
partsbara
07-24-2006, 05:42 PM
I would agree, it is a great vid! However, if you think you aussies are fast all you really need are a couple of USA beginning racers to run that course and then you would see fast! :D:
yeah :rolleyes:
benno
07-24-2006, 06:01 PM
I would agree, it is a great vid! However, if you think you aussies are fast all you really need are a couple of USA beginning racers to run that course and then you would see fast! :D:
Yeah, or even 'your' 'american' world cup team.
jeez that one guy "tom" was like one of the only riders who didnt fall on that one corner.
dropmachine.com
07-24-2006, 07:09 PM
I would agree, it is a great vid! However, if you think you aussies are fast all you really need are a couple of USA beginning racers to run that course and then you would see fast! :D:
Yeah! I mean, look at how the Americans are just dominating the World cup right now! ussie's stink!
By stink, I mean they kick the crap out of any North American. Bring back Myles and Tomac!
wood-dog
07-24-2006, 07:14 PM
any time an American loses a race you can bet it has to do with mechanical error. :D:
Heath Sherratt
07-24-2006, 07:18 PM
Just watch for Riffle...
dropmachine.com
07-24-2006, 10:14 PM
Riffle rocks. I have no idea how he places, but the intelligence hes shown in his decline articles makes me a fan already.
elRey
07-24-2006, 10:17 PM
Riffle rocks. I have no idea how he places, but the intelligence hes shown in his decline articles makes me a fan already.
Intelligence in a Decline article? LOL
dropmachine.com
07-24-2006, 10:21 PM
Written by Riffle. Guy seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
elRey
07-24-2006, 10:29 PM
Yeah, I read it. It was actually surprisingly not half bad. I like Decline. It's just a pain in the neck trying to read most of the articles, it's weird how they think pro mtn bikers are good at writing. They should stick to riding there bikes IMO.
LaharDesign
07-24-2006, 10:45 PM
Oh come on!
australia is a big fat and lazy country compared to NZ.
Kiwis are going to cream the ockers at the worlds, especially u19 oceania champ frodo.
Shepherdwong
07-24-2006, 10:54 PM
Probably built strong from fighting off the scariest creature in the world, the Sydney Funnel Web Spider!
http://spinnen-forum.de/artikel/Image1a.jpg:sneaky:
toodles
07-24-2006, 10:55 PM
Nevermind the funnel web, mind the drop bears
Shepherdwong
07-24-2006, 11:02 PM
I don't mind the dropbears. The hoop snakes on the other hand!:drool:
kidwoo
07-24-2006, 11:23 PM
Probably built strong from fighting off the scariest creature in the world, the Sydney Funnel Web Spider!
http://spinnen-forum.de/artikel/Image1a.jpg:sneaky:
I think partsbara got bitten by one of those.
Did something wierd to his alcohol tolerance.
partsbara
07-24-2006, 11:28 PM
i know... i m a pansy
thaflyinfatman
07-25-2006, 12:35 AM
Oh come on!
australia is a big fat and lazy country compared to NZ.
Kiwis are going to cream the ockers at the worlds, especially u19 oceania champ frodo.
haaahaha. Time will tell mate, time will tell :)
My bet is on Hill FTW, and either Bell or Bain (or maybe Maltman if he doesn't crash) for the 19s. And like hell you've got anyone to go head to head with Tracey Hannah :)
SteezyWeezy
07-25-2006, 12:52 AM
thats a tight vid, but americans dont fall so much :D
benno
07-25-2006, 03:58 AM
(or maybe Maltman if he doesn't crash)
He's a quick little farker, but yeah, he just doesn't have the consistency ATM. Give him a few years though. Or Rhys, wait till he's 18....
Daver
07-25-2006, 04:01 AM
He's a quick little farker, but yeah, he just doesn't have the consistency ATM. Give him a few years though. Or Rhys, wait till he's 18....
Just wait til next year... Patton and Sam Ward, #1 and #2.
konastab01
07-25-2006, 03:00 PM
Go frodo
jonnynails
07-25-2006, 03:05 PM
Just watch for Riffle...
Damm Straight:agree: :agree: :agree: :agree:
BikerBoy28
07-25-2006, 03:10 PM
All America has to do is wait 5 years and I'll be there to take back the Cup!:thumb:
dG video
07-25-2006, 03:14 PM
Yep,
U.S. doesn't have much in terms of racers, but then again, look at all the support we have from our country....point proven.
Pat...
07-25-2006, 03:39 PM
Blown out corners? You didn't go to Sonoma. :rofl:
benno
07-25-2006, 05:19 PM
Yep,
U.S. doesn't have much in terms of racers, but then again, look at all the support we have from our country....point proven.
Have a glass of harden up ya fairy. :eviltongu
Support? There are NO legal, public downhill tracks in South East Queensland - home ground of Kovarik, Pokoj, Graves (well he does have a decent public track near his place but that was only built recently) and many other WC level racers. Shuttles at the last race I went to were a bunch of grotty, broken, prehistoric utes. First prize was a maxxis DH tyre. The DH race seen around here is very, very low key.
You guys need to look deeper than "oh, wah, people don't give me things for nothing" to figure out why the country than invented mountain biking has bugger all impact on the international DH scene.
JohnnyC
07-25-2006, 05:50 PM
haaahaha. Time will tell mate, time will tell :)
My bet is on Hill FTW, and either Bell or Bain (or maybe Maltman if he doesn't crash) for the 19s. And like hell you've got anyone to go head to head with Tracey Hannah :)
Check this years international results, Cole is gonna clean up the juniors and if he doesn't Sam Blenkinsop will :)
sayndesyn
07-25-2006, 06:38 PM
whatever, everyone knows the real sport is motocross and all I see is Chad Read sucking exhaust pipe. hahaha
BikerBoy28
07-25-2006, 06:45 PM
whatever, everyone knows the real sport is motocross and all I see is Chad Read sucking exhaust pipe. hahaha
Ha, Reed is pretty good. Does Ricky Carmichael still race?
elRey
07-25-2006, 06:45 PM
whatever, everyone knows the real sport is motocross and all I see is Chad Read sucking exhaust pipe. hahaha
This is a bicycle forum.
S.K.C.
07-25-2006, 07:00 PM
Want to know why Aussies are so fast?
...because being the descendant of what was originally a Penal Colony makes you hard as a coffin nail???
:D
Aussies are the original O.G. badass.
Thrillkil
07-25-2006, 07:27 PM
it's clearly the vegemite.
wood-dog
07-25-2006, 07:41 PM
whatever, everyone knows the real sport is motocross and all I see is Chad Read sucking exhaust pipe. hahaha
real sport? real sport? Roller derby my friend, THAT is a real sport!
dG video
07-25-2006, 07:49 PM
Have a glass of harden up ya fairy. :eviltongu
Support? There are NO legal, public downhill tracks in South East Queensland - home ground of Kovarik, Pokoj, Graves (well he does have a decent public track near his place but that was only built recently) and many other WC level racers. Shuttles at the last race I went to were a bunch of grotty, broken, prehistoric utes. First prize was a maxxis DH tyre. The DH race seen around here is very, very low key.
You guys need to look deeper than "oh, wah, people don't give me things for nothing" to figure out why the country than invented mountain biking has bugger all impact on the international DH scene.
What was pro prize at Aussie Nationals? Norba didn't give squat last year. Im not saying "pitty us" I am sure Australia has got it pretty bad too. But for the amount of money, and sources the US has, we really have no one behind us. The crowd in that video was about as big as the crowd at the Norba Nationals during pro finals at Mt. Snow. Both the US and AUS need more support, but how does it come?:confused:
partsbara
07-25-2006, 07:51 PM
australia ownz.. the rest of you are racing for second :devil:
BikerBoy28
07-25-2006, 08:01 PM
Read the article in "BIKE" people. Its called "Why americans suck at downhilling and austrailians dont" It expains everything.
DHCorky
07-25-2006, 08:54 PM
Read the article in "BIKE" people. Its called "Why americans suck at downhilling and austrailians dont" It expains everything.
I read this article a few weeks ago and they make a vary valid point.
Superdeft
07-25-2006, 10:37 PM
Read the article in "BIKE" people. Its called "Why americans suck at downhilling and austrailians dont" It expains everything.
Any chance there's an online version?
toodles
07-25-2006, 11:01 PM
Any chance there's an online version?
Yeah, gimme gimme gimme
Banga
07-25-2006, 11:07 PM
Check this years international results, Cole is gonna clean up the juniors and if he doesn't Sam Blenkinsop will :)
You know Brendon Fairclough is still a junior right?
rideagainst
07-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Check this years international results, Cole is gonna clean up the juniors and if he doesn't Sam Blenkinsop will :)
Not so sure about that, he has been placing well in pro, but his times are not that impressive compared to Daniel Hultgen. At the sugar national D Hultgen had a 4.02 while Cole had a 4.04, and at Deer Valley Daniel had a 3.08 while Cole had a 3.09. Bar a crash i think Brendan Fairclough will take it, but it should be an interesting race.
Banga
07-25-2006, 11:34 PM
Not so sure about that, he has been placing well in pro, but his times are not that impressive compared to Daniel Hultgen. At the sugar national D Hultgen had a 4.02 while Cole had a 4.04, and at Deer Valley Daniel had a 3.08 while Cole had a 3.09. Bar a crash i think Brendan Fairclough will take it, but it should be an interesting race.
Different Cole.
Frodos been racing in europe, where the real racing is.
rideagainst
07-25-2006, 11:36 PM
Different Cole.
Frodos been racing in europe, where the real racing is.
sorry, i was talking cole bain.
Mugger
07-26-2006, 12:32 AM
My (http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=162111) take on the race.
We do get support but it's nothing special, we're all out there having a great time and the race spectators is probably defiantly the highlight of the race, the prizes are just a 'half' bonus.
bikenweed
07-26-2006, 01:16 AM
Duh, the Australians just don't give a fck. That's why they go faster.
Americans spend too much time on internet forums discussing the best kind of elbow guard, while the Aussies are outside riding. That and they just don't give a fck, and are willing to ride the gnarliest stuff as fast as possible. Figures that a land consisting of evolved pirates and hookers is the land of the world's fastest DHers...
bikenweed
07-26-2006, 01:18 AM
Not so sure about that, he has been placing well in pro, but his times are not that impressive compared to Daniel Hultgen. At the sugar national D Hultgen had a 4.02 while Cole had a 4.04, and at Deer Valley Daniel had a 3.08 while Cole had a 3.09. Bar a crash i think Brendan Fairclough will take it, but it should be an interesting race.
Two seconds are not nearly enough to say one rider is substantially faster than another, especially on a 4 minute course. A lot of DHing is luck. Two seconds on a four minute course is about the time of three or four pedal strokes.
Eggzoi
07-26-2006, 01:27 AM
What was pro prize at Aussie Nationals?
If I remember right it was a Fox cap, about 2 years old.
We don't get **** for winning down here, and nobody cares because it's all about the bikes.
Pat...
07-26-2006, 01:29 AM
Duh, the Australians just don't give a fck. That's why they go faster.
Americans spend too much time on internet forums discussing the best kind of elbow guard, while the Aussies are outside riding. That and they just don't give a fck, and are willing to ride the gnarliest stuff as fast as possible. Figures that a land consisting of evolved pirates and hookers is the land of the world's fastest DHers...
That's exactly it. They are crazy. :looney: :trophy_br
JohnnyC
07-26-2006, 04:50 AM
You know Brendon Fairclough is still a junior right?
I didn't think of that when I posted, but Frodo and Sam have been on a similar pace so far, and with a home track advantage it'll be close
LaharDesign
07-26-2006, 06:15 AM
Frodo set a faster time than Mick Hannah on the worlds track in march. And the three fastest NZ times of the day tho he did crash his pro race run. Beat all the Aussie juniors to take out u19 handily.
Sam beat Fabien in the previous round. Its anyones pick. Nicholai's joris bigoni has looked up there for the juniors too.
I'd have to say Frodo or Blenky to win since they have the home advantage.
The Coriolis effect will probably stuff up the nth hemers. when tiger woods played golf here he came 97th.
toodles
07-26-2006, 03:30 PM
Figures that a land consisting of evolved pirates and hookers is the land of the world's fastest DHers...
We evolved? :wonky2:
SlackBoy
07-27-2006, 06:42 PM
The Coriolis effect will probably stuff up the nth hemers. when tiger woods played golf here he came 97th.
so true, that water going down the tiolet the wrong way, will really mess with their heads
thom9719
07-27-2006, 07:32 PM
aussies are fast because mary kate and ashley olsen made a disney special there. end of story.
Kyle,
offtheedge
07-27-2006, 07:34 PM
Oleo!
partsbara
07-27-2006, 08:16 PM
aussies are fast because mary kate and ashley olsen made a disney special there. end of story.
Kyle,
nice one :thumb:
bikenweed
07-28-2006, 01:04 AM
We evolved? :wonky2:
Ok, Aussies are fast because they are either pirates or hookers. Fixed.
FarkinRyan
07-28-2006, 02:29 AM
sorry, i was talking cole bain.
No such thing as a Cole Bain, you probably mean Joel Bain, from Western Australia.
"Cole" in this context means Cameron Cole, a superfast NZ junior who could probably win this years Junior title if he wasn't cursed with the "Kiwi Gene" which causes people to reach sports highest levels, generate masses of expectation and then choke uncontrollably in a manner that is extremely sartisfying for people from neighbouring countries to watch ;) *stir dig prod etc*
aussies are fast because mary kate and ashley...They were "legal" here before they were there too :clue:
shmity
07-28-2006, 03:59 AM
What was pro prize at Aussie Nationals? Norba didn't give squat last year. Im not saying "pitty us" I am sure Australia has got it pretty bad too. But for the amount of money, and sources the US has, we really have no one behind us. The crowd in that video was about as big as the crowd at the Norba Nationals during pro finals at Mt. Snow. Both the US and AUS need more support, but how does it come?:confused:
Sorry, what? Its got nothing to do with support, if your boys cant ride down a hill without someone holding their hand then thats their problem. There is next to no sponsership for fast guys that will get them anywhere, they have to go looking OS for that sort of support, usually in America... Look at the amount of lift acces trails America has compared to Australia. Theres more than enough access,variety and industry support to breed fast racers in the US, you're just not hungry enough.
Banga
07-28-2006, 04:38 AM
No such thing as a Cole Bain, you probably mean Joel Bain, from Western Australia.
"Cole" in this context means Cameron Cole, a superfast NZ junior who could probably win this years Junior title if he wasn't cursed with the "Kiwi Gene" which causes people to reach sports highest levels, generate masses of expectation and then choke uncontrollably in a manner that is extremely sartisfying for people from neighbouring countries to watch ;) *stir dig prod etc*
haha thats awesome.
LittleBIGjumP
07-28-2006, 05:02 AM
USA population 297,633,177
Australia population 20,197,513
Do the math, we are killing the States:rofl:
HamaNinjA:)
Kevin
07-28-2006, 05:15 AM
you're just not hungry enough.
I think that sais a lot. Ive met some Aussie and NZ riders and they all had one thing in common, theyre just not scared to ride off the brakes.
I talked to Nathan Rankin about this in Morzine last summer and he said he could train on the hill next to his house all he wanted but I guess that goes for a lot of americans too so I think most Aussie/NZ riders just have a screw loose when it comes to riding.
And yes, that includes you Parts :rofl:
I dont know who of you monkeys have ever been to Morzine but if you know the "Le Pleney" track, just check out this vid of Rankin and youll know what I mean with "screw loose"...
http://www.vorb.org.nz/ftopic-25919-days0-orderasc-0.html
Enjoy.
Rossco224
07-28-2006, 06:02 AM
Aussies are fast Because.
There all crimbos running from the law.
valve bouncer
07-28-2006, 06:20 AM
Molasses would beat me down the hill. Frozen molasses.
thaflyinfatman
07-28-2006, 08:28 AM
Aussies are fast Because.
There all crimbos running from the law.
What are you talking about? Australia's population was hand-picked by the finest judges in England. :)
partsbara
07-28-2006, 11:30 AM
I guess that goes for a lot of americans too so I think most Aussie/NZ riders just have a screw loose when it comes to riding.
And yes, that includes you Parts :rofl:
bwahahahaaa... .screw loose... i ll take that as a compliment...
partsbara
07-28-2006, 11:38 AM
sick video of morzine kev... thanks... for sure he is moving, but again, the video doesn t really campture it... they rarely do...
the point rankin gets to in 1.44 sec was taking sam and i 1.55 last season... it felt like we were flying... fast enough for this old man... i m sure sam would be on or around rankins time now... semi pro bastid :)
GOD MORZINE RULES
Kevin
07-28-2006, 12:14 PM
He went semi pro allready? He didnt look all that fast last time I saw him ride ;) (j/k)
Ill be back in Morzine in about a week from now and really looking forward on the section directly after 1.44... Damn that stuff is insane fast. Last year I had to do with no front travel because of my piece of **** dorado so Ill be sure to time myself this year.
You aussies and yanks still got nothin on us Euros :redhot:
DaveW
07-30-2006, 01:44 AM
USA population 297,633,177
Australia population 20,197,513
New Zealand population 4,000,000.
Do the math, they are killing the States and Aussie :rofl:
HamaNinjA:)
Fixed ;)
:rofl: :rofl:
And Part's you may have a screw loose but come the worlds you'll just be plain screwed! :nopity:
LaharDesign
07-30-2006, 06:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleBIGjumP
USA population 297,633,177
Australia population 20,197,513
New Zealand population 4,000,000.
Cheers Dave!
Actually NZ population is 5 mil.
Its just that 1 of those million lives offshore cause the rest of us are so obnoxious.:mumble:
partsbara
07-30-2006, 02:07 PM
You aussies and yanks still got nothin on us Euros :redhot:
you euros definately win the 'most pretty metrosexual males' award... some damn fine capri pants out there... mix it up with my capris, pop my collar, gell in hair, j-lo sunnies... i m cool :clue: :help: :redhot:
scottishmark
07-30-2006, 03:57 PM
GOD MORZINE RULES
you probably wont appreciate me telling you that i'm there right now! ;)
SlackBoy
07-30-2006, 07:00 PM
You aussies and yanks still got nothin on us Euros :redhot:
How come Kiwis were 1, 3 in the last swiss cup??? :trophy_br
Cave Dweller
07-30-2006, 08:05 PM
To be honest i think it comes down to a few factors
1. Weather - We can ride all year round = 2x as much riding as most people in europe and the states
2. Lack of lift assisted tracks - Means you have to walk up alot of tracks, or share shuttle with other smelly riders which makes you want to ride fast to get away from them.
3. Cost of bikes - DH bikes are real expesive here. If you spend that much money on something you want to use it
4. Race scene - We have rennie and so forth coming back each year to race the national rounds, helps push the younger guys to go faster
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