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mogulskr
07-21-2006, 09:41 AM
NEWSFLASH: Jan Ullrich has been fired by his team T-Mobile following his recent implication in the Operacion Puerto blood doping scandal, according to german news agency SID. The German 1997 Tour winner is said to be in denial, but directeur sportif Olaf Ludwig has confirmed the news.
Westy
07-21-2006, 09:43 AM
Scooped by a minute.
goofy
07-21-2006, 10:11 AM
what a shocker (lol) they finally saw that thet don't need him to do well in the tour :D
llkoolkeg
07-21-2006, 10:47 AM
T-Mobile sacked Jan Ullrich, their star rider of ten years, by fax for his involvement in Spain's doping probe, the rider said on his website on Friday. Ullrich, who was suspended from riding in the Tour de France, said that he was "disappointed" and that his lawyers would contest the decision.

What a massive meatslap right across The Jan's mug!
Heidi
07-21-2006, 11:06 AM
While it DOES suck that he was fired by fax, why doesn't he just man up and take a dna test if he is so adamant about being innocent? Just get it over with instead of bickering about who should be proving it.
sanjuro
07-21-2006, 11:16 AM
While it DOES suck that he was fired by fax, why doesn't he just man up and take a dna test if he is so adamant about being innocent? Just get it over with instead of bickering about who should be proving it.
Jan's "denials" sound like defense lawyer posturing. "Can someone provide concrete evidence?"

Many cases based on circumstancial evidence, and I am pretty sure it is obvious he did the dope.
Heidi
07-21-2006, 11:17 AM
Jan's "denials" sound like defense lawyer posturing. "Can someone provide concrete evidence?"

Many cases based on circumstancial evidence, and I am pretty sure it is obvious he did the dope.

Oh, I agree, that's what I'm saying. It's so silly..does he really expect people to believe he is innocent and just a victim here? :nono:
llkoolkeg
07-21-2006, 11:31 AM
My favorite quote from eurosport's coverage of today's stage?

"25 km The leaders whizz past some Mācon vinyards, and a huge water tower. That water tower is truly the Jan-Ullrich-Off-Season of all water towers... a monumental girth." :D
reflux
07-21-2006, 11:56 AM
the Jan is being having a big schnitzel.
Reactor
07-21-2006, 12:09 PM
His career was almost over anyway, what did he have to loose? This way he'll sue the team and maybe win a few bucks.
dan-o
07-21-2006, 12:25 PM
Oh, I agree, that's what I'm saying. It's so silly..does he really expect people to believe he is innocent and just a victim here? :nono:

That angle worked for Tyler pretty well, at least with US fans in denial.
rooftest
07-21-2006, 01:11 PM
That angle worked for Tyler pretty well, at least with US fans in denial.

I don't know about that - I think more people believe Lance's "My brake pad was rubbing" story.
OGRipper
07-21-2006, 02:01 PM
I'm sure that somewhere in his contract it says that lying to the team is grounds for termination.

But I am also pretty sure they took a "don't ask, don't tell" approach and are sacrificing Der Kaiser in order to (hopefully) keep their sponsor.
Westy
07-21-2006, 02:35 PM
"A DNA test is traumatic, and not 100% reliable,..."-Ivan Basso's Lawyer.
sanjuro
07-21-2006, 02:39 PM
"A DNA test is traumatic, and not 100% reliable,..."-Ivan Basso's Lawyer.
Isn't a dna test done with a swab of your inner cheek and not 100% reliable since 1 in 100 million is wrong?
reflux
07-21-2006, 02:41 PM
His career was almost over anyway, what did he have to loose? This way he'll sue the team and maybe win a few bucks.
Under a different team (read: not disfunctional like T-Mobile), I'd say that the Jan has another year or two of GC placement. Just look at what a year on the Bianchi team did for him.
Westy
07-21-2006, 02:42 PM
Isn't a dna test done with a swab of your inner cheek and not 100% reliable since 1 in 100 million is wrong?

Correct, and if you have a cotton swab phobia it can be very traumautic.
Heidi
07-21-2006, 02:45 PM
I'm sure that somewhere in his contract it says that lying to the team is grounds for termination.

But I am also pretty sure they took a "don't ask, don't tell" approach and are sacrificing Der Kaiser in order to (hopefully) keep their sponsor.

Yes, he supposedly signed a statement at the beginning of this entire scandal stating that he had no affiliation with Dr. Fuentes or the lab.
reflux
07-21-2006, 02:52 PM
Correct, and if you have a cotton swab phobia it can be very traumautic.
Do you think they will ever come up with something less invasive?
Westy
07-21-2006, 03:11 PM
Do you think they will ever come up with something less invasive?


They can take a hair sample but you dare not touch someones 'do.
reflux
07-21-2006, 03:33 PM
They can take a hair sample but you dare not touch someones 'do.
Perhaps the day will soon come where we can gather DNA evidence by simply breathing in one's general direction. We can only hope.
Silver
07-21-2006, 03:40 PM
"A DNA test is traumatic, and not 100% reliable,..."-Ivan Basso's Lawyer.

It's very traumatic if it happens to implicate you...
golgiaparatus
07-21-2006, 03:40 PM
They can take a hair sample but you dare not touch someones 'do.

Certainly not the Jan's.
jaydee
07-22-2006, 03:07 AM
He may well be guilty but there is only circumstantial evidence until he submits to a DNA test. And I'm no scientist, but I've read that it's hard and expensive to make DNA testing more than 99% reliable. That sounds impressive, but it means that 1 out of every hundred tests is (or could be) wrong. I'd be uncomfortable with those odds even if I knew I was innocent.
narlus
07-22-2006, 10:42 AM
They can take a hair sample but you dare not touch someones 'do.

would they have to resort to pubes if they tested pantani?