View Full Version : super t on chameleon?
glivingston5
07-17-2006, 04:21 PM
im going on a trip and i am thinking of putting my super t on my 04chameleon(i also have a 130mm dj2) so i can do some uphill and not be held back on downhill ,and gaps as well as some 6 to 12 foot drops with good steep tranny, is my frame strong enough? i dont want to ride my bb7 because im gonna be pedaling up just as much as riding down, i realy need some input soon
boone
07-17-2006, 04:32 PM
the warranty says 160mm?
I dunno man....sounds a little scetch to me?
have fun though :)
booner
glivingston5
07-17-2006, 04:53 PM
do u realy think the extra 10mm makes a difference?
glivingston5
07-17-2006, 04:55 PM
i dont realy care about warenty, i just want to no how strong it is
SteezyWeezy
07-17-2006, 07:51 PM
i wouldnt do it, just cuz i dont like the way it sounds, but you could pull it off i bet
boone
07-17-2006, 08:33 PM
I don't really think the extra 10mm makes that much of a diff.
What I think you might want to look at is what axle to crown height they are talking about for the 160mm fork and then compare that to your super t.
I think the bike would hold up to it for the most part :)
Only thing I would really worry about is how whacked out the geo is gonna be.
Putting the geo into a slack position by increasing the A-C works ok to a certain point, then it just gets crazy and is gonna make your rig hard as hell to steer properly...even on the down hill sections.
I am guessing you already know all this :)
Maybe post up a pic of how that set up looks and we will take a look at it for fun!
Booner
glivingston5
07-17-2006, 11:40 PM
i just put the fork on and its hardly raked out at all ,it has a realy nice geometry. im gonna try and get a pic soon
bjanga
07-18-2006, 12:52 AM
I doubt it is raked out much (probably feels great), but DC forks put stresses on the headtube that SC forks put on the steerer tube.
PepperJester
07-18-2006, 05:06 AM
last I checked a Chameleon was built for a DC - should be fine. Perhaps check with SC if your worried.
allsk8sno
07-18-2006, 06:27 PM
yeah the crazy hardtail guy in the redbull (utah) was on one of those with a super T or some other DC
Kornphlake
07-19-2006, 02:41 PM
I doubt it is raked out much (probably feels great), but DC forks put stresses on the headtube that SC forks put on the steerer tube.
You mind using engineering terms to explain that one to me? For static calculations the headtube and steerer tube are considered to be ridgidly attatched to each other it doesn't matter how many crowns you have that won't change. The only truth that I can dig out of that statement is that with a single crown it's more likely that you'd separate the steerer tube from the crown than with a double crown fork. If you are going to be ridding hard enough to break a steerer tube off a modern long travel single crown fork you are ridding hard enough to ovalize a headtube with any fork.
bjanga
07-19-2006, 03:45 PM
You mind using engineering terms to explain that one to me?
I read it somewhere . . . anyone want to back me up on this? :help:
If you are going to be ridding hard enough to break a steerer tube off a modern long travel single crown fork you are ridding hard enough to ovalize a headtube with any fork.
Agreed.
bjanga
07-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Did some reading around and I guess I am full of sh!t. DC forks are stiffer and therefore can transfer more force to the headtube because they flex less, but I doubt that is very significant.
untitledsince89
07-19-2006, 05:00 PM
yea ^ with the dc fork it can put more leverage on the headtube in turn causing it to snap, it should be fine though I have my slider on a GSR hooligan 4X bike, suggest fork 65-110mm, and the slider is 170mm and it shows no signs of stress
snaps-alot
07-19-2006, 06:00 PM
yea ^ with the dc fork it can put more leverage on the headtube in turn causing it to snap, it should be fine though I have my slider on a GSR hooligan 4X bike, suggest fork 65-110mm, and the slider is 170mm and it shows no signs of stress
hopefully you don't find out the actual stress on a nose hard landing :wonky2: but I agree, the frames can probably handle a longer fork but manufactures don't want to deal with warranty issues from usning a big fork...
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