Fontucky Pro DH results.

[biker3]

Cody Warren 2:14.6
Jeff Beaty 2:15
Ameil Cavalier 2:15.2
Jared Rando 2:15.4
Justin Haukalugian 2:15.5
Curtis Keene 2:15.6
Daniel Umland 2:15.7
Waylan Smith 2:16
Evan Turpen 2:16.6
Cole Bangert 2:16.7
Gerrat Beytagh 2:16.8
Joel Bane 2:17.3
Lars Sternberg 2:17.3
Chris Herdon 2:17.4
Colin Baily 2:17.7

straight from MTBR, they are also saying kircaldie got DQ'd for telling an official to F-off.

[stubby]

hahhaha go HERNDON

[Transcend]

I think you mean, go Kirkaldie.

[©2001]

rad...stoked for cody

[stubby]

i laughed at kirkaldie but im proud to see one of my states riders place well.

[Transcend]

Photos are up now thanks to Stik

http://www.transcendmagazine.com/gallery/fontanaNMBS

Womens results as well

1 - Joana Peterson
2 - April Lawyer
3 - Wendy Reynolds

[sayndesyn]

wow... they must of needed security to keep all those crowds back. Way to go Kirkaldie.

[Transcend]

wow... they must of needed security to keep all those crowds back. Way to go Kirkaldie.

Ya. Moving MTB races to the ghetto radically increased spectators huh? :rolleyes:

The security was to hopefully stop the drive bys.

[merrrrjig]

It was stupid they disqualified him, it was because an ambulence got stuck, maybe high centered of 20ft off the course, stupid

[RideSiK]

anyone know where i can find full results and times? the norba natioanls site dosent have pro men up yet...

[RideSiK]

hell yeah!!! just saw joel bains place!!! not bad for a 16 year old on a new bike!!!

hes going to be quick... the other young aussies over with him are fast as well!!

[tacobelldhr]

Congrats. to Jd for kicking butt in dh and 4x. He killed it.

[stiksandstones]

Congrats. to Jd for kicking butt in dh and 4x. He killed it.

Yeah-JD has a future in bikes, fast, nice kid.

[merrrrjig]

Here are my photos: http://www.dotphoto.com/Go.asp?l=mtbphoto&P=theman&AID=3454408&T=1 over 500 when done. Good luck stealing!

[TheInedibleHulk]

Can someone please post times for pro women.

[stiksandstones]

Can someone please post times for pro women.

slow:04:008

[FlipFantasia]

Yeah Beatty!!! Good whistler kid, fast xc rider too, always comes out to the loonie xc races! frig I'm stoked to see that, seriously awesome down to earth guy....

[JohnnyC]

they are also saying kircaldie got DQ'd for telling an official to F-off.

Nice one JK! to bad it screws up his season though, was he stopped from racing all together or what?

[Bacardi]

women's winning time was about 2:46

[stephanie]

nope...i raced pro women and here were the top 5

Joanna Petersen had a 2:37

April Lawyer was second with a 2:46

Wendy Reynolds was third with a 2:46 and a couple hundredths

Kote Driscoll fourth ~2:47

Jackie Harmony fifth ~2:47 as well

[Bacardi]

I stand corrected. Good job ladies on a tough course...

[stiksandstones]

nope...i raced pro women and here were the top 5

Joanna Petersen had a 2:37

April Lawyer was second with a 2:46

Wendy Reynolds was third with a 2:46 and a couple hundredths

Kote Driscoll fourth ~2:47

Jackie Harmony fifth ~2:47 as well

This you?
http://stiksandstones.com/tucky/IMG_9582.jpg

[DH Diva]

nope...i raced pro women and here were the top 5

Joanna Petersen had a 2:37

April Lawyer was second with a 2:46

Wendy Reynolds was third with a 2:46 and a couple hundredths

Kote Driscoll fourth ~2:47

Jackie Harmony fifth ~2:47 as well

BTW, Good job on placing top 10 in your first pro national event! Way to start off the season!

[Backpack1]

Look at USAcyclings commitment to gravity events! one half of one sentence...the rest XC.
http://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=2235

[bizutch]

keene sporting a t-shirt...tucked in no less...is hilarious.

[stephanie]

This you?
http://stiksandstones.com/tucky/IMG_9582.jpg

yeah! :) cool shot...where did you find it?

[stephanie]

BTW, Good job on placing top 10 in your first pro national event! Way to start off the season!

thanks :) felt good to get the first national out of the way...

my time wasn't the greatest (compared to top 5) but i'll be working on shedding those extra ten seconds :)

[stephanie]

Look at USAcyclings commitment to gravity events! one half of one sentence...the rest XC.
http://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=2235

it finishes the dh story at the bottom. yes, still not as much as xc, but more than a sentence:rolleyes:

[coma13]

yeah! :) cool shot...where did you find it?

Stephanie!!! Why aren't your pedals level??????

hahaha just messing around. This is Eric by the way, I did that clinic with you, tall blond kid who rode an Enduro.

[sayndesyn]

Don't be sore.... They put some comments at the very bottom of the article. See, they care, they really do. :rofl:

Look at USAcyclings commitment to gravity events! one half of one sentence...the rest XC.
http://www.usacycling.org/news/user/story.php?id=2235

[sayndesyn]

This you?
http://stiksandstones.com/tucky/IMG_9582.jpg


Holy friggin fisheye!

[stephanie]

Stephanie!!! Why aren't your pedals level??????

hahaha just messing around. This is Eric by the way, I did that clinic with you, tall blond kid who rode an Enduro.


lol! probably because i was trying everything in my power not to f up before sliding down the rock!!! did you have a good time spectating?

but notice I am looking ahead :)

[stiksandstones]

yeah! :) cool shot...where did you find it?

I took it...

[Transcend]

Holy friggin fisheye!

That 'aint a fishy. It's probably a 17mm wide on his 5d. Not enough barrel distortion for a fish.

[stiksandstones]

That 'aint a fishy. It's probably a 17mm wide on his 5d. Not enough barrel distortion for a fish.

Bingo...17 on my 5d...no fishy

[stiksandstones]

Here is one more...almost cool pic, I forgot to include her head....this rider was going about 1.7mph and I made her look fast..

http://www.stiksandstones.com/tucky/IMG_9579.jpg

[coma13]

Here is one more...almost cool pic, I forgot to include her head....this rider was going about 1.7mph and I made her look fast..

http://www.stiksandstones.com/tucky/IMG_9579.jpg

Is this the turn right before the rock face?

[sayndesyn]

That 'aint a fishy. It's probably a 17mm wide on his 5d. Not enough barrel distortion for a fish.

Close.. I guess I forgot that a fisheye looks like a peephole view..

[TheInedibleHulk]

Expert women winner Caroline Jarolimek would have been 11th in Pro women. She has been racing bikes for 8 months and has ownded a dh bike for a couple of weeks. I believe this is about her fifth dh race. She's 20. Ya'll are SCREWED.

[Mani_UT]

Actally it seems a lot of the pro class girls were racing their first pro race. Not too sure where the olg guard went. So there is a lot of potential for a lot of these girls to get faster and faster as it goes.

[stiksandstones]

Actally it seems a lot of the pro class girls were racing their first pro race. Not too sure where the olg guard went. So there is a lot of potential for a lot of these girls to get faster and faster as it goes.

I think the old guard is realizing the risk-to reward ratio is too high to be a pro womens rider. There was a time when you could come in new to the sport and IF you ever got to be the #1 chick you could make half a million dollars a year. Now if you are the best in the world, you might make 35 grand...very dangerous sport for that kind of money.

[biker3]

I think the old guard is realizing the risk-to reward ratio is too high to be a pro womens rider. There was a time when you could come in new to the sport and IF you ever got to be the #1 chick you could make half a million dollars a year. Now if you are the best in the world, you might make 35 grand...very dangerous sport for that kind of money.

Not to mention that just about every single genetic predisposition women have goes completally against the sport.

[stephanie]

Expert women winner Caroline Jarolimek would have been 11th in Pro women. She has been racing bikes for 8 months and has ownded a dh bike for a couple of weeks. I believe this is about her fifth dh race. She's 20. Ya'll are SCREWED.

yes, she's very fast, considering how long she's been riding. she does have a background which makes her more comfortable with high speeds and technical riding than the average newbie...she was/is a very good skiier.

my hats go off to 14 year old expert rider essence barton who got a 2:54 and is wicked fast! now that's talent!

some girls are sick fast right away and some take a while to get there...

[stephanie]

Not to mention that just about every single genetic predisposition women have goes completally against the sport.

elaborate please...

[Mani_UT]

elaborate please...

I think he and stik are saying that girls will not risk life and limbs unless there is money behind while guys will just do it to impress the drinking buddies :)

[TheInedibleHulk]

Not to mention that just about every single genetic predisposition women have goes completally against the sport.

BWAHAHAHA, Im staying out of that one.

[stephanie]

i don't know many women who are doing it for the $$. i myself just like to go fast :)

[Transcend]

BWAHAHAHA, Im staying out of that one.

What exactly is there to stay out of? Women's bodies, in general, are genetically pre-disposed for things like child birth. Men's anatomies have a significant advantage when it comes to sports, simply from the way they have evolved.

Downhillers tend to be huge in this era (Rennie, Peat etc). Nico is an alien and didn't count. Clearly a woman is at a disadvantage were she to go head to head with a man. That is all he is saying.

[offtheedge]

.......i think what he is saying is get me a pot pie and a cold one,
that's were your genetic prowess lies.....:D

[stiksandstones]

i don't know many women who are doing it for the $$. i myself just like to go fast :)

Well....

Anyway, my point was most women I know got into it because it was a fun sport, but there was always this dangling carrot beyond the 'fun' factor that made the risk somewhat worth it when there was a 'chance' you could make a very nice living if you became one of the best...and when these situations arise you get MORE women coming in all having 'fun' but knowing there is some nice carrots. I am saying now there is NO carrots so the risk is not worth it, nor is spending $1000 to fly to a race, get a rental car, etc...

[stephanie]

i agree...the amount of $$ i've spent is more than i want to total up :) the carrot is definitely not there, and i do know a lot of women who have stopped because they want a family.

[bizutch]

I'm not a sexist and neither is Stik considering we're both married and surrounded by girls all day long (wives and daughters)...but it's absolutely hilarious that nobody jumped on the phallic punch lines regarding the "carrot".

[stiksandstones]

I'm not a sexist and neither is Stik considering we're both married and surrounded by girls all day long (wives and daughters)...but it's absolutely hilarious that nobody jumped on the phallic punch lines regarding the "carrot".

Hmm, ya oops, I have mastered the art of 'foot in mouth' syndrome.

[TheInedibleHulk]

I just happen to know a handful of female riders who get very upset if you make even the slightest insinuation that they are inherently not as good at bike riding. The results speak for themselves really.

[ninja-riot]

hey stiksandstones, i was wonderin if ya happened to have a pic of me, i was running in expert, i was the guy with pink on the sides of the jersey who slid out in that corner you have the shots from. you might remember me for yelling sh*t when i got stopped. anyways that was a damn fun race!

[sayndesyn]

Are you trying to imply that ACC was tucking to ride?

I just happen to know a handful of female riders who get very upset if you make even the slightest insinuation that they are inherently not as good at bike riding. The results speak for themselves really.

[TheInedibleHulk]

Are you trying to imply that ACC was tucking to ride?

I'm implying she was a one off phenom and no one has even come close to riding like her.

Im not sure I buy the size argument Transcend. Sure being 6'4" and 210 pounds is a big advantage in terms of power and leverage. A quick glance at the results however, will show you it has been a long time since the women's winner at a NORBA national would have been fast enough to win Jr X. That means that some pretty small kids who havent gotten strong yet are spanking women with many years more experience and full factory support. Why? I dont know.

Also, while being big clearly works, Hill and Hauvakainengluvenbergen have shown that being quick and having a low center of gravity can make up for being small.

[bizutch]

it has been a long time since the women's winner at a NORBA national would have been fast enough to win Jr X. That means that some pretty small kids who havent gotten strong yet are spanking women with many years more experience and full factory support. Why? I dont know.
......
hah hah...you haven't been to a Junior X podium recently by chance? Travis Bond, Cody Warren, Cory Gustafson...they got spots reserved on the varsity if they want.:love:

[dhbuilder]

Not to mention that just about every single genetic predisposition women have goes completally against the sport.

whoa.
women that ride or race downhill, kick ass.

i don't think any body expects them to compete against us.
or for that matter, us to compete against them.

there's room on the mt. for all.

[bikenweed]

So where are the full results for Pro and SemiPro?

Edit: oops, just got posted on www.norbanationals.com

[biker3]

whoa.
women that ride or race downhill, kick ass.

i don't think any body expects them to compete against us.
or for that matter, us to compete against them.

there's room on the mt. for all.

Im not hating, just stating the facts. All the more props to women for doing it. Genetics just aren't on their side moreso for a sport like DH.

[sanjuro]

Im not hating, just stating the facts. All the more props to women for doing it. Genetics just aren't on their side moreso for a sport like DH.
And the slam dunk defense: I hope in your last event, your time was better than every woman there....

[Mani_UT]

And the slam dunk defense: I hope in your last event, your time was better than every woman there....


Yeah not kidding. I stopped counting the number of time I got spanked silly by fast girls. And I love it too :love:

[TheInedibleHulk]

I got chicked by the whole top three at US Open last year. Hasnt happened since.

[biker3]

And the slam dunk defense: I hope in your last event, your time was better than every woman there....

Of course, I raced the national series last year, Im 17 and I assure you I have money where my mouth it.

[sanjuro]

Im not hating, just stating the facts. All the more props to women for doing it. Genetics just aren't on their side moreso for a sport like DH.
I think the big thing is that you can find a thousand reasons to say women can't race dh, and the next thing you know is that there are no more women racing dh.

On the other hand, there are all kinds of naysayers about Danica Patrick and Michelle Wie, and they are able to compete with the men.

I think it is easy to throw roadblocks in the way of women's dh (there are plenty already). Yes, the top man in every discpline of cycling is faster than the top woman, and I won't need the intranet to figure it out. But being supportive is not just stating the facts and leaving it at that. It is trying to do something about it.

If nothing at all, I have never heard the word "ghey" come from a female dh'er. That gets my support.

[Mani_UT]

Of course, I raced the national series last year, Im 17 and I assure you I have money where my mouth it.

You mean Pruitt did not beat you by 25 seconds in Snowmass? or 20 seconds a Brian Head?
(Yeah Norba keep times, it's fun and handy to look back)

(You're still fast but dont knock down on the girls too much ;) )

[biker3]

You mean Pruitt did not beat you by 25 seconds in Snowmass? or 20 seconds a Brian Head?
(Yeah Norba keep times, it's fun and handy to look back)

(You're still fast but dont knock down on the girls too much ;) )

Here we go with this, don't get into it. Im hardly what you'd call fast and I didn't even come close to insinuating that in earlier posts, Snowmass and Brian Head were disasterous runs, look how far back I am in the pack.

Read my posts. What I said was scientific fact, I by no means am calling out pro women or any other women regarding me or my race times. I am giving props for crying out loud, I meant that in a sport like DH where physical strength is a HUGE HUGE part where as a sport like basketball it isn't so much, its all the more sweet that women compete. Please just drop it, this doesn't have to turn into another Kote Driscall thread, cause that's not at all what I was directing at.

[Mani_UT]

Here we go with this, don't get into it. Im hardly what you'd call fast and I didn't even come close to insinuating that in earlier posts, Snowmass and Brian Head were disasterous runs, look how far back I am in the pack.


Don't worry about it. it was a joke. ;)
I get your point.

[biker3]

On the other hand, there are all kinds of naysayers about Danica Patrick and Michelle Wie, and they are able to compete with the men.


If nothing at all, I have never heard the word "ghey" come from a female dh'er. That gets my support.

What do these two arguments have ANYTHING to do with what we're talking about. Danica Patrick gives next to NO physical exertion in her sport. If anything she is at an advantage because of her weight. Her amount of strength has nothing to do with shifting at the right time, picking lines, turning the steering wheel in one direction and pushing a gas pedal. I'd say riding a DH course, muscling a 40ibs bike and powering it with your own strength is slightly different.

Michelle Wie is insane, but to say she "competes" with the men is a bit of an overstatement. She continues to try to qualify for men's events with little success.

Saying the word "ghey"? I'm not catching your drift, what's the connection?

[biker3]

Don't worry about it. it was a joke. ;)
I get your point.

No doubt, you bailed me out last year, I got no hard feelings. The inernet is highly limited in sarcasm and getting ones point across, so I just want to make sure my motives and comments are clear. Especially before the femanist bandwagon hops on and turns me into Mr. shovanist who says he has never lost to a women.

[stephanie]

for some perspective...

some of my proudest moments at the national were watching expert dh practice/race and seeing that i rode the technical section cleaner than a lot of the guys.

i really don't think that any of the guys out there doubt that girls racing dh is cool...i have gotten so many adoring looks from complete strangers when i tell them that i race/ride dh. a majority of girls out there will always be slower than the guys, but most girls i know don't race to try to beat the guys' times.

so my request for the guys out there is to keep cheering and clapping, giving advice and being positive. encourage the females you know to keep riding and racing...and for goodness sakes, if there is a girl (or guy for that matter) riding down a course in front of you during practice and you want to get around, be polite (no swearing needed) :love: i saw such displays of pure rudeness this weekend...unless of course that person refuses to let you around :rolleyes:

[offtheedge]

Man this thread started out about A DH race and now a bunch of you politicaly correct hens have to go and read into it something else.

fact: women aren't as strong as men. This does not mean they are unable to do ANYTHING, it is just a fact of nature.

now flip on Oprah and feel empowered.

[biker3]

Man this thread started out about A DH race and now a bunch of you politicaly correct hens have to go and read into it something else.

fact: women aren't as strong as men. This does not mean they are unable to do ANYTHING, it is just a fact of nature.

now flip on Oprah and feel empowered.

Exactly what I was trying to say, but you took care of it in a few sentences. PC is a big reason why our country is in shambles.

[sayndesyn]

I'm not so sure strength plays that large of a role in dh. Sure there needs to be a base strength level, but "muscling" around a 40lb bike is something that even skinny people do just fine. In all reality it should be more of "finessing" a 40lb bike... I'm guessing the main issue is just testosterone. I think individuals such as Missy Giove had a wee bit more than average and that puts them at an advantage.

[sayndesyn]

oh... and I have no idea what the hell this thread is about anymore.. something about a race?

[stephanie]

agreed...

women as strong as men: no

women as gifted as men: yes

[offtheedge]

agreed...

women as strong as men: no

women as gifted as men: yes

amen!
it takes huge huevos to pilot a bike down a mountain no matter what sex you are.
women have all the talent and desire as men, plus all the good soft qualities that men can't pull off. I mean come on, boobs!?!?!

[dante]

and for goodness sakes, if there is a girl (or guy for that matter) riding down a course in front of you during practice and you want to get around, be polite (no swearing needed) :love:

if she's cute I usually just follow behind till she stops or I can easily make a pass.

(and I think all DH girls are cute, too...)

:love:

[sanjuro]

What do these two arguments have ANYTHING to do with what we're talking about. Danica Patrick gives next to NO physical exertion in her sport. If anything she is at an advantage because of her weight. Her amount of strength has nothing to do with shifting at the right time, picking lines, turning the steering wheel in one direction and pushing a gas pedal. I'd say riding a DH course, muscling a 40ibs bike and powering it with your own strength is slightly different.

Michelle Wie is insane, but to say she "competes" with the men is a bit of an overstatement. She continues to try to qualify for men's events with little success.

Saying the word "ghey"? I'm not catching your drift, what's the connection?
Danica Patrick received all kinds of crap before showing some success at last year Indy 500. Wie made the final cut of her first mens event last week, not bad for a 16 year old.

Pointing out women are not as fast as the men, well it is a pretty obvious fact. But women can ride the same lines as the men, and more women will ride bigger and bigger as long we continue to support them.

And I just hate the word "ghey".

[stephanie]

if she's cute I usually just follow behind till she stops or I can easily make a pass.

(and I think all DH girls are cute, too...)

:love:

uh oh...x ray vision :clue: :)

[amydalayna]

I think the big thing is that you can find a thousand reasons to say women can't race dh, and the next thing you know is that there are no more women racing dh.


right on.

whenever the topic of women come up in the dh forum it has to do with guys being faster than them or whether or not they're doable.
drives the ladies away.

these threads always make me grumpy. what is accomplished by saying that guys race times are faster than girls?

[stiksandstones]

Here, this will get this mess of a thread back on track....

What did the top 5 men and women make for prize money at Fontana?

[Lady Litton]

On the racing side, I agree with what was said. We are not as strong and the risks are a big thing to overcome w/o the rewards. We do it for fun and to push our personal boundries. So guys, give some props to the girls out there riding/racing. A lot of it goes back to the way society views women, the way we were raised and what is expected of us as women. Think about your neighborhood days as a kid. The boys were hucking themselves off stuff with boards, bikes, cardboard, etc. The most girls stood around and watched, so they wouldn't get dirty or have scabs/scars all over the place. This is how most girls are taught to think, "scars are bad." Many women I know can't even ride a bike and are afraid to try, beacuse they had no encouragement! What a huge loss for them! Most of us had to get past that crap. People still freak out on my scabs, lol.

My point is, just accept us and don't set the tone that we have to be as good as the guys, because it will only weaken the sport (and you won't get to ride as much because your wives & girlfriends don't get it :D).

[biker3]

Here, this will get this mess of a thread back on track....

What did the top 5 men and women make for prize money at Fontana?

The brochure TBB sent me in the mail said they were providing WINNERS JERSEYS.

[stephanie]

I can't remember how much each of the top 5 men/women got, but I know the women made half of what the men did.

On another note, I made a whole $38 for getting 10th:rolleyes: Didn't even pay for my race entry....

But, I know expert/sport/beg didn't get anything, so I'm not complaining :)

[stephanie]

The brochure TBB sent me in the mail said they were providing WINNERS JERSEYS.

they usually give winner's jerseys for being the series champion.

[W4S]

The most girls stood around and watched, so they wouldn't get dirty or have scabs/scars all over the place. This is how most girls are taught to think, "scars are bad." Many women I know can't even ride a bike and are afraid to try, beacuse they had no encouragement! What a huge loss for them! Most of us had to get past that crap. People still freak out on my scabs, lol.

So, what you're saying is that we should beat up our girlfriends so they'll get used to having scabs? wow, seems like overkill, but if think it will help.....:love:

Just kiddin LD, it was great seeing you again and congrats on winning expert DH. I think women racers are hot.

[bikenweed]

the women made half of what the men did...$38 for getting 10th:rolleyes:...

Woa, so 10th place pro male made $76? That's better than the Maxxis Cup series! What was first place? :hot:

[Snacks]

What exactly is there to stay out of? Women's bodies, in general, are genetically pre-disposed for things like child birth. Men's anatomies have a significant advantage when it comes to sports, simply from the way they have evolved.

Downhillers tend to be huge in this era (Rennie, Peat etc). Nico is an alien and didn't count. Clearly a woman is at a disadvantage were she to go head to head with a man. That is all he is saying.

I sadly agree....woman are at a disadvantage in most phyical sports when they have to go head to head with men....this is a man's sport. We ride bikes built for men, course built by men, wear armor and clothes built for men....It sucks but I don't take it that seriously. I'm just out there for a good time:)

[sunny]

Woah, hey! Is this the Fontana downhill thread? Cool! Sorry I'm late to the party...

OK, so I haven't been here (on the board) since Feb, when I broke my wrist at Fontana. Broke it in the staging area while trying to look cool... alas. I'm sure none of you have ever had anything like that happen. But I thought it was sprained at the time, wrapped it in ice and took Ibuprofin and raced both DH and Super D the next day. Little did I know I would need a plate and 11 screws to put it back together... :mumble:

But I got cleared by the Doc to "resume my activities" this past Wednesday, so Thursday afternoon I was pulling on the body armor for a practice run down the hill. :weee:

It was my first NORBA "expert" race, as I just moved up from sport. There were plenty of reasons to be skeerd, but even more reasons to go out to the hill and live like I mean it.

I know I'm not as strong as the boys, and my genetic instincts are hardwired for self-preservation. I know this. And I'm no kid, either (racing age *cough* 39). I know I will never make any money on my bike; quite the contrary. But it's cheaper than therapy (if you assume therapy started at age 2). My biggest strength on the hill is the spirit to do it. And I do it because I can.

The course was challenging and fun and flowed well. I had bobbles and a few little crashes in practice, but managed to put it together for a decent race run. The one big thing I would have done differently: gone to more spin classes in March and April when I couldn't get on my bike!

Props to Donnie Jackson for good DH and 4x courses, and for putting on a great race weekend. :thumb:

-sunny

[Lady Litton]

So, what you're saying is that we should beat up our girlfriends so they'll get used to having scabs? wow, seems like overkill, but if think it will help.....:love:

Just kiddin LD, it was great seeing you again and congrats on winning expert DH. I think women racers are hot.

Come on, man... the occassional stick in the spokes will do. :rofl:

Good to see all you all at Fontucky. What a great course and a great event. We were so stoked to be back on our bikes after a looong winter.

Quote of the weekend (overheard) "FINALLY a mtn cross course on a mountain!"

[luiz carlos]

Hey Stik....Great Pics.....
Any pic of Amiel or Havukeinen....
Tks

[stephanie]

I sadly agree....woman are at a disadvantage in most phyical sports when they have to go head to head with men....this is a man's sport. We ride bikes built for men, course built by men, wear armor and clothes built for men....It sucks but I don't take it that seriously. I'm just out there for a good time:)

2005 had the Slope Systair (not sure of spelling) competition in BC. True that there are women's specific xc and road bikes, but no dh bikes specific for women. I had to switch to the M3 to find the right fit. Women are making their mark, but it's slow going.

[stiksandstones]

Hey Stik....Great Pics.....
Any pic of Amiel or Havukeinen....
Tks

They are not great images, but thanks anyway.

I just found the pics you asked for...they are worse than my others. Note to self, do not attempt to take pics when you are not psyched with the venue.
Here is your request, pretty sure this is them;
(sweet background stikman)
http://www.stiksandstones.com/tucky/amiel.jpg
(Nice composure and out of focus ;) )
http://www.stiksandstones.com/tucky/justinh.jpg

[luiz carlos]

Thanks man........
They are not great!!!????????
Ahhhh....Came onnnn.......
Yeah,Havukeinen is out of focus but still good...And Amiel's pic is perferct...
Are you going to Mont Saint Anne World Cup take some pics????:D

[stiksandstones]

Thanks man........
They are not great!!!????????
Ahhhh....Came onnnn.......
Yeah,Havukeinen is out of focus but still good...And Amiel's pic is perferct...
Are you going to Mont Saint Anne World Cup take some pics????:D

Nope, I think my MTB shooting is done for the year, no time to travel currently, but I think there be no shortage of pics from MSA...I know Transcend Mag will be there shooting for starters.

[Metal]

And Amiel's pic is perferct...
Are you going to Mont Saint Anne World Cup take some pics????:D

That ugly kid Maddog is in the background. It completely ruins the picture.

[stiksandstones]

That ugly kid Maddog is in the background. It completely ruins the picture.

Ha, ya...maddog made me feel way too old, he was speaking in a language I never heard of. ;)

[bizutch]

STIK. Don't be so elitist. Post all the pics you got man. Let us see some action shots...who cares about focus.
Those are 100 times better than somebody's frickin cell phone or a still from a video camera. Give em!

[Transcend]

STIK. Don't be so elitist. Post all the pics you got man. Let us see some action shots...who cares about focus.
Those are 100 times better than somebody's frickin cell phone or a still from a video camera. Give em!

Photographers tend to not want to show their blurry, crappy pics. :rofl:

[Bobodaclown]

The pics look good stik, I like the one of King Bling.

Post a few more.

Cheers

[stiksandstones]

Seriously, thats about it, the others are of people I do not know and the pics just suck-the whole lot is roachy, so this is all you get, I have shown enough crap for the week.

Not elitist, I have just seen rad pics my whole life, I want to take rad pics...but it has not happened yet, so I am picky.

[Bobodaclown]

Seriously, thats about it, the others are of people I do not know and the pics just suck-the whole lot is roachy, so this is all you get, I have shown enough crap for the week.

Not elitist, I have just seen rad pics my whole life, I want to take rad pics...but it has not happened yet, so I am picky.

Cool, now worries can understand that. They look pretty cool the ones you've shown.

Gary/Flipper has some cool pics up on his site from Vigo WC. www.flipper.co.uk

[stiksandstones]

Cool, now worries can understand that. They look pretty cool the ones you've shown.

Gary/Flipper has some cool pics up on his site from Vigo WC. www.flipper.co.uk

Yeah, saw his pics yesterday and was mad at him! ;)

I thought I was there by looking at his images, fantastic.

[Transcend]

Gary's pics always rule. Best in the business, bar none.

[Bobodaclown]

Gary's pics always rule. Best in the business, bar none.

All his pics really seem to capture that something about a race or whatever the subject is. If that makes sense.

I'm always shocked that more of his pics don't get in the mags.

[Transcend]

All his pics really seem to capture that something about a race or whatever the subject is. If that makes sense.

I'm always shocked that more of his pics don't get in the mags.

He doesn't bother with mags, why should he? It's a huge hassle and they don't pay very well.

[Sgt Brown]

Wow, what's with the Fugly numberplates? What's next? Heart shaped plates.... Lame...

[Sgt Brown]

slow:04:008

LOL... You so beat me to that....

[stiksandstones]

LOL... You so beat me to that....

Ya, I think that inspired the massive thread derailment! haha

[Zman]

Wow, what's with the Fugly numberplates? What's next? Heart shaped plates.... Lame...

they may not have been the most attractive....but they are better than an effectively large sheet of paper. i remember having to trim an 8" x 8" piece at anglefire last year. numbers needed to be bigger, but the plates could stand up to a week of washing and changing bikes. definitely nicer than a paper plate

[tacobelldhr]

I think alot of racers can't get over their massive amount of testosterone and except the fact that there are women in our sport. We should be so thankfull to have more people in mountainbiking, we need as many as possible. As long as they are having fun that should be all that matters.



-jake

[stiksandstones]

I think alot of racers can't get over their massive amount of testosterone and except the fact that there are women in our sport. We should be so thankfull to have more people in mountainbiking, we need as many as possible. As long as they are having fun that should be all that matters.



-jake

Agreed, chicks racing is somewhat cool if they are impressive to watch, I just do not want to here how fast they are...unless they are truly fast.

Crap, I derailed it again...So, do you think there will be Prize Money at the next NORBA race, or do we owe the prize money at fontucky (albeit small) solely to Donny?

[tacobelldhr]

Agreed, chicks racing is somewhat cool if they are impressive to watch, I just do not want to here how fast they are...unless they are truly fast.

Crap, I derailed it again...So, do you think there will be Prize Money at the next NORBA race, or do we owe the prize money at fontucky (albeit small) solely to Donny?

Exactly stik...but like all men women seem to want to tell everyone how fast they really are. When they are not.:rolleyes:

[bizutch]

Agreed, chicks racing is somewhat cool if they are impressive to watch, I just do not want to here how fast they are...unless they are truly fast.

Crap, I derailed it again...So, do you think there will be Prize Money at the next NORBA race, or do we owe the prize money at fontucky (albeit small) solely to Donny?
There will be $5k total between mens and Womens Pro endurance and gravity events at Sugar, per the resort.

[dhbuilder]

Danica Patrick gives next to NO physical exertion in her sport.

you have no idea how wrong you are on this one.
i'd pay big $$$ to anyone who would walk up to her, say that to her face, and not get his butt whipped by her.

[sayndesyn]

I'd second that. Just withstanding those kind of g's while turning a wheel really isn't that easy at all.

[Transcend]

you have no idea how wrong you are on this one.
i'd pay big $$$ to anyone who would walk up to her, say that to her face, and not get his butt whipped by her.

Saying that open wheeled racer drivers suffer no physical exertion is mental. They routeinely get out so bruised and batterred (and dehydrated) that they have to be helped off the track.

[biker3]

Saying that open wheeled racer drivers suffer no physical exertion is mental. They routeinely get out so bruised and batterred (and dehydrated) that they have to be helped off the track.

Okay me saying no physical exertion was a little bit of hyperbole, to better state myself, I meant that there is a HUGE difference between the advantages of being strong in DH, MTX cycling in general than in race car driving where blobs like Tony Stewart excel. There is no winning with Fraser, I love it. We should chat/argue/heckle at the open, I don't think you'd despise me as much in person.

[bizutch]

Okay me saying no physical exertion was a little bit of hyperbole, to better state myself, I meant that there is a HUGE difference between the advantages of being strong in DH, MTX cycling in general than in race car driving where blobs like Tony Stewart excel. There is no winning with Fraser, I love it. We should chat/argue/heckle at the open, I don't think you'd despise me as much in person.
good luck finding him. You'll spot the orange Transcend logo from time to time, but he's nowhere to be found. We've been at the same race countless times and he remains invisible.

Hobbits are easily overlooked you know...:cool:

[W4S]

We should chat/argue/heckle at the open, I don't think you'd despise me as much in person.

Transcend - Game, set, match at 120th post. :)

[Zutroy]

Saying that open wheeled racer drivers suffer no physical exertion is mental. They routeinely get out so bruised and batterred (and dehydrated) that they have to be helped off the track.


Yep, I can say for a fake that have to work, I've got tons of data recodering HR, Breath, body temp..etc on drivers in several different types of race cars. Most drives, especially in open wheel and endurace racnig are pretty fit boys and girls, alot are also cyclist.

[dhbuilder]

Okay me saying no physical exertion was a little bit of hyperbole, to better state myself, I meant that there is a HUGE difference between the advantages of being strong in DH, MTX cycling in general than in race car driving where blobs like Tony Stewart excel. There is no winning with Fraser, I love it. We should chat/argue/heckle at the open, I don't think you'd despise me as much in person.

nobody despises you.
it's just that automobile racers are just as much an athlete as any of us here.
their physical conditioning (even under tonys excess) is second to none.
driving 500miles at 200mph or 400laps on a track like richmond takes something that most of us will never posses.
not to mention two hrs at barcelona this weekend. that's a day after an intensive qualifying session that to me has been better than the actual race so far this year.

[Zutroy]

Not to completely de-rail this thread, but we're strating to find out in the research we're doing with firefighters that the emotional stress(ie not being able to see, knowing were you are, fearing for your life) on people doing structural firefighting has a larger physiological effect than actually the heat, and work of fighting a fire.

[sanjuro]

Hey, I didn't mean to start some huge argument about autoracing, sweating, or body mass.

I was trying to argue that it is too easy to find fault in women dh, and we should try harder to find reasons to support it.

[tacobelldhr]

When i race off-road it kick's my butt so much worse than riding any DH. You would think ok 250 or even 500 miles in a car no biggie....not exactly. I just couldnt begin to phathem what it would be like in an indy car.

[bcd]

Cole Bangert - GO cole!

Lars Sternberg - GO lars!

both great guys and good to see there names up there.
It was cool to see more of a american group at the front.
I think all NMBS should conflict with WC's! lol


cody has some low rise bars. HUH

http://www.transcendmagazine.com/gallery/albums/fontanaNMBS/cody.sized.jpg



O also looks like the track was getting rutted bad so cody ran first in final after being last in QUAL.

[bcd]

hey sanyjay?

did you wear a fullface at otter?

not to keen on it.

nice high line by the way.

[Metal]

hey sanyjay?

did you wear a fullface at otter?

not to keen on it.

nice high line by the way.

Alex,
I wore a pro-tec at Sea Otter and the Fireston DH race, but I wore my new moto helmet at Fontucky. Got myself a Fox V3. Fits so much nicer than Troy Lee moto helmets, and is pretty light to boot.

[Secret Squirrel]

Alex,
I wore a pro-tec at Sea Otter and the Fireston DH race, but I wore my new moto helmet at Fontucky. Got myself a Fox V3. Fits so much nicer than Troy Lee moto helmets, and is pretty light to boot.
Fox V3's r0x0rZ the b0x0rZ!!

[stephanie]

O also looks like the track was getting rutted bad so cody ran first in final after being last in QUAL.[/QUOTE]

Cody flatted in Quals.

[sayndesyn]

I've always wondered wtf Cody wears a roost protector... I guess it offers some sharp rock protection.. Maybe he just likes to feel moto?

[bcd]

I've always wondered wtf Cody wears a roost protector... I guess it offers some sharp rock protection.. Maybe he just likes to feel moto?

R.I.P. jake watson