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ironhorse411
04-29-2006, 09:20 PM
It's time for some new brakes as my other ones have finally died. There going to be used for Windrock and some random DH/FR spot. I am looking at either Hayes Mags or Avid juicy sevens. I posted in here because I wanted to get some feedback from people that ride Windrock and know how the brakes peform there. I can't spend over $350 because I can't afford it. Any other brake suggestions are welcome.

motomike
04-29-2006, 09:37 PM
any 8" brake with do fine. I like the juicys

spoke80
04-29-2006, 10:13 PM
What? A specific brake system for Windrock? I find that brakes only slow you down.:rofl:

DHracer1067
04-29-2006, 10:31 PM
my juicy 7's worked really good at windrock. I think it did something to my pads though cause after I got back the pads seemed to not work as good.

Jeremy R
04-30-2006, 08:33 AM
my juicy 7's worked really good at windrock. I think it did something to my pads though cause after I got back the pads seemed to not work as good.

That's because they were gone.

TCP21
04-30-2006, 09:33 AM
avid juicy 7's, i love mine

motomike
04-30-2006, 10:03 AM
avid juicy 7's, i love mine
what? you have never been there

dhbuilder
04-30-2006, 10:27 AM
first of all.
if you're going to ride here, you'd better be ready to spend $$$.
$350 will get you brakes worthy of no more than x-c riding.

here's what the locals are running.
hayes w/8in. rotors. full metalic pads.
set your levers up to where they are just a little shy of the bars as they come on strong. that gives you better modulation and less arm pump, as your fingers aren't reaching way out for the levers.

get ready to go through brake pads every couple of sessions. they don't last long here.
i toss em when they get about half worn down. at that point they start to wear extremely fast and you'll go from having pad to metal to metal contact within one run. quickly ruining a rotor.

running cheap parts out here will break your budget. as you'll spend more time in the parking lot than riding.and more time on the phone monday mornings, ordering new s... and brakes are no place to skimp on $$$.

DHracer1067
04-30-2006, 12:13 PM
That's because they were gone.

I looked at them and there was still plenty left. Is there some sort of coating on brake rotors? I was looking at my rear rotor cause it was making this really weird noise at this one spot and it looked like some coating was worn off.

TCP21
04-30-2006, 12:39 PM
what? you have never been there
so i can still say i love my brakes because the work well

mfzbike
04-30-2006, 05:00 PM
i love my shimano xt's (grimeca style)
less arm pump than hayes...

dhbuilder
04-30-2006, 05:04 PM
I looked at them and there was still plenty left. Is there some sort of coating on brake rotors? I was looking at my rear rotor cause it was making this really weird noise at this one spot and it looked like some coating was worn off.

you cooked your pads and glazed you rotors.

toss the pads and remove the rotor and take some very fine sandpaper(400-440 grit)and lightly sand off the glaze.

it'll take a half a run or so with new pads and sanded rotor, for them to bed in. then you'll be fine.

profro
04-30-2006, 06:48 PM
Find some circa 1999 XT V-brakes. They are the best.

Jeremy R
04-30-2006, 07:34 PM
Find some circa 1999 XT V-brakes. They are the best.

Onza Porcupines would be another top bet.
They work well with the Onza pedals and the Onza Rail/Rip tire combo.:rofl:

JeffD
04-30-2006, 08:38 PM
Onza Porcupines would be another top bet.
They work well with the Onza pedals and the Onza Rail/Rip tire combo.:rofl:

I hear WR is hell on pedal elastomers and canti brake hangars. Bring extras.

Roodle
04-30-2006, 09:49 PM
full metallic pads? what brand would those be?

i'm running hayes nines and whatever the stock sintered pads (gold back) are, but am going to buy/order some new pads for this weekend's trip to windrock.

where do i score these fine stoppers?




of course, if i already have them that would be cool to know too. :)

HRDTLBRO
04-30-2006, 09:54 PM
Coaster brake owns at WR.

profro
05-01-2006, 06:43 AM
The stock Hayes pads, copper backed, are what I run. The black backed ones are organic, I think, and wear out really fast.

Peete
05-01-2006, 09:19 AM
I ran a U-brake with a gyro on my 20" last time I was there. Had absolutely no problems.

Basically any hydraulic brake not XC specific w/8" rotors is fine...except Hopes.

tomvan72
05-01-2006, 09:24 AM
Keep in mind that if you use Hayes brakes, use the Mags. Some of the others might not be ideal. You will use your brakes a lot. If you brakes are not up to par you will have problems!!

bizutch
05-01-2006, 10:00 AM
ditto to Tom. And DITTO to the full metallic pads....if you can get them. Hayes buyers are fond of the semi-metallic pads b/c they are quieter. But the full metal ones last longest, have a more solid feel and definitely bite better.

My bike came with Juicy 7's nad i'm giving them a try to see how they hold up. They did fine at Windrock last weekend...did destroy the little red knob/power adjuster thing though. The knob is plastic wrapped on metal so it tore the plastic only. If the dial had been metal, it would have ripped the adjuster out.

tomvan72
05-01-2006, 10:05 AM
I was there on Sat and my breaks were not working well at all. I had them to the bar and tires would not lock up. In a bad way!

profro
05-01-2006, 10:36 AM
F'en sissys and your brakes...


http://www.frontiernet.net/~hdferguson3/elbow.jpg

Peete
05-01-2006, 10:42 AM
Damn! Is that your heel or elbow?

profro
05-01-2006, 10:47 AM
Heel of course. I always ride flats, without shoes. :rolleyes:

Nah, its my elbow after Southern Rocks.

tomvan72
05-01-2006, 10:51 AM
I like that. Maybe if your brakes did not work you could have just kept on "keep On".

I bet if you get your elbow drunk you could get some!:wave:

Jeremy R
05-01-2006, 11:29 AM
Damn! Is that your heel or elbow?

That's his heel.
Doug likes to wear t-shirts on his feet just for fun.

bizutch
05-01-2006, 11:53 AM
F'en sissys and your brakes...


http://www.frontiernet.net/~hdferguson3/elbow.jpg
that's not even a fresh wound bub. There are scabs....hell, no raw meat or oozing. Old news. Show us fresh ground chuck...or Ben

spoke80
05-01-2006, 11:54 AM
or ben?

Peete
05-01-2006, 12:30 PM
or ben?

dover

profro
05-01-2006, 01:10 PM
that's not even a fresh wound bub. There are scabs....hell, no raw meat or oozing. Old news. Show us fresh ground chuck...or Ben

Dude the elbow is mighty fresh. Its got super glue on it. Right on the elbow is about 1/2" deep. But I pulled it together and put that liquid stitches on it. It can't ooze, its sealed shut and hard as a rock. That liquid stitches/super glue stuff is great. I carry some in my riding gear. Ask Chepler how deep it is. I cleaned it up at his place yesterday.

frznnomad
05-01-2006, 02:44 PM
my hayes mags did just fine. i was running semi-metalic pads and there was surprisingly still pad left (although i only made three runs cause well souther rocks ****ed me up), but juicy 7s should do fine for windrock although i would be kinda worried about the adjuster nob rip off like it did with butch but still a good set of brakes from what i have heard and what i have ridden.

dhbuilder
05-02-2006, 09:48 AM
full metallic pads? what brand would those be?

i'm running hayes nines and whatever the stock sintered pads (gold back) are, but am going to buy/order some new pads for this weekend's trip to windrock.

where do i score these fine stoppers?




of course, if i already have them that would be cool to know too. :)

the gold backed pads are the ones i'm talking about.the blacks work ok too, but the golds stop much better in the front.