Windrock Info..ALL of it!!

[Brunettes]

A few of us from the Mid-Atlantic will be making the trip out to Windrock May 5th-7th. I don't know too much about this place, I've searched around and found alittle but I'd like to know alllllllll about what I should expect, thanks!

[spoke80]

A few of us from the Mid-Atlantic will be making the trip out to Windrock May 5th-7th. I don't know too much about this place, I've searched around and found alittle but I'd like to know alllllllll about what I should expect, thanks!

For directions and general infor: www.windrock-mtb.com

What else do you wanna know?

[Brunettes]

Yes I've seen the site... I'm wondering how the trails are, what the weather is like around this time, things like that..

[profro]

The trails are very steep and rocky. There are a few jumps here and there but Windrock is pure DH singletrack with very few man made items. Even though you may see a lot of pictures of the man made stuff, believe me a majority of the mountain is natural terrain. The weather is hit or miss year round. Fall is the driest time of the year. Spring can be great weather, but it can also be very wet. Summer is very hot and humid. It is shuttable with your own vehicle. There is a daily $15 permit required.

[BKQuill]

Be sure to check out the service Sunday morning, you'll hear it for sure.

[HotButterToppin]

Yeah I want this info as well....since I'm going with him. ;)


I think there will be at least 4 of us coming in early May. Where do we pick up the permit or ticket or whatever it is that we need to ride? Also, should we look for some locals to hook up with lest we be assaulted in your spooky woods? I'm a lilly white city boy from the northeast, hell I'm almost albino! ;)

I'm kidding though.... I'm hoping it's a good weekend and we get to meet some of our more inland big bike riding comrads. Looks like a hell of a good time and I can't wait (to fall and hurt myself, and cry).

[oldskoolbiker]

Alight I'm the one organizing the trip for us Mid-Atlantic guys. Baltimore and DC specifically. Of course I'm originally from that neck of the woods, far SW VA specifically, and I still have at least have part of my accent. The other guys may have never even been to the south before.

We will be hitting up windrock on May 6 and possibly May 7. We wouldn't mind hooking up with some locals to show us the ropes.

Any tips to prepare us for our trip would be helpful.

[BurlyShirley]

Any tips to prepare us for our trip would be helpful.
Remember that scene in Happy Gilmore, when he doesnt make the hockey team, so he goes in the batting cage to "toughen up"?

[HotButterToppin]

This will indeed be the farthest south I've ever been.....except for last year when I went to Orlando, which doesn't really feel like the south. It just feel hot, in December. God I hate Orlando.


I'm packing my bag as I type this*

Body armor - check
Full facer - check
New 7" Travel bike - check, almost
Balls - only one



*I'm lying

[spoke80]

Alight I'm the one organizing the trip for us Mid-Atlantic guys. Baltimore and DC specifically. Of course I'm originally from that neck of the woods, far SW VA specifically, and I still have at least have part of my accent. The other guys may have never even been to the south before.

We will be hitting up windrock on May 6 and possibly May 7. We wouldn't mind hooking up with some locals to show us the ropes.

Any tips to prepare us for our trip would be helpful.


The only advise I could give to someone who has never shredded at WR is that you shouldn't expect to master the place in one trip. I'm not saying it can't be done because it has numerous times. All I'm saying is to expect to be challenged and have yourself and equipment throughly tested. Go over every pivot and bolt because the last thing you want is to worry about your equipment, you'll have enough fun on the trails. Oh, and bring spare parts...

I look forward to riding with you damn Yanks.

[dhbuilder]

Alight I'm the one organizing the trip for us Mid-Atlantic guys. Baltimore and DC specifically. Of course I'm originally from that neck of the woods, far SW VA specifically, and I still have at least have part of my accent. The other guys may have never even been to the south before.

We will be hitting up windrock on May 6 and possibly May 7. We wouldn't mind hooking up with some locals to show us the ropes.

Any tips to prepare us for our trip would be helpful.

you show up, we'll ride.

you won't be dissapointed.

[HotButterToppin]

I thought Oldskool was from Tenn. for a while.....like a year. ;)

[Peete]

Remember that scene in Happy Gilmore, when he doesnt make the hockey team, so he goes in the batting cage to "toughen up"?

ROFLMAO
I'm glad I didn't have any coffee in my mouth when I read that!

[bizutch]

I think I will be backed up by everyone that the thing you'll go through quickest is BRAKE PADS. Seems like I waste a pair there after 2 days of riding...at least on the back.
The other 2 things everybody always kills is lots of tubes and derailleurs

[dhbuilder]

brake pads, tires and rims.
all are disposable items here.

[Taz]

Ya the rock claimed my derailleur today. Bring every spare part that you can replace on the bike. Hell I have had spare rear shocks with me in the past.

[dhbuilder]

Ya the rock claimed my derailleur today.
didn't look like it slowed you down any from what i saw.

[Taz]

didn't look like it slowed you down any from what i saw.

Nah! Who said a DH bike can't be a single speed :thumb:

[ChrisKring]

Nah! Who said a DH bike can't be a single speed :thumb:


I think Dean has been running that way since last year. On Saturday, I notice my shifting was a little bad. Since I was a little out of it (dehydrated and 2 headers), I didn't notice that the derailuer had been ripped almost out of the hanger until I washed the bike on Saturday night. The strange thing was that the derailuer was fine except for the portion of the hanger that was still attached. I'll clean up the threads with a tap and it will be good to go.

[bizutch]

I think Dean has been running that way since last year. On Saturday, I notice my shifting was a little bad. Since I was a little out of it (dehydrated and 2 headers), I didn't notice that the derailuer had been ripped almost out of the hanger until I washed the bike on Saturday night. The strange thing was that the derailuer was fine except for the portion of the hanger that was still attached. I'll clean up the threads with a tap and it will be good to go.
it is funny to ask someone...so how many times did you shift..."ummm, well...there was the...no wait, maybe at the...hmmm...did I?"

[profro]

I never shift at Windrock. Over the last 2 years I have always run the exact same gear top to bottom.

[Taz]

I actually shift when I am lazy and want to sit and pedal on some of the lower stuff, always down shift.

[bizutch]

I never shift at Windrock. Over the last 2 years I have always run the exact same gear top to bottom.
yeah...we used to love to watch you have to pedal anyplace...:love:

[profro]

yeah...we used to love to watch you have to pedal anyplace...:love:

what does that mean? :confused:

[bizutch]

what does that mean? :confused:
dude...at Sugar and places like that, you'd get cooked b/c you rode nothing but Windrock for the longest time. You don't remember sucking wind in the parking lot and saying "I gotta do sprints. Windrock doesn't prepare me for this stuff.."

[spoke80]

dude...at Sugar and places like that, you'd get cooked b/c you rode nothing but Windrock for the longest time. You don't remember sucking wind in the parking lot and saying "I gotta do sprints. Windrock doesn't prepare me for this stuff.."


Yeah, a road bike will get you set for the rigors of racing at Sugar. But, BMX will get in shape for racing downhill.:love:

[profro]

dude...at Sugar and places like that, you'd get cooked b/c you rode nothing but Windrock for the longest time. You don't remember sucking wind in the parking lot and saying "I gotta do sprints. Windrock doesn't prepare me for this stuff.."

Oh you men like Sugar, where I won last year. :oink:

BMX is where its at!

[spoke80]

Oh you men like Sugar, where I won last year. :oink:

BMX is where its at!

OOOOOOOOOOOOH SNAP!

[bizutch]

Oh you men like Sugar, where I won last year. :oink:

BMX is where its at!
oh yeah...in VET. And I wasn't talking about '05. But I know how hard you're trying to recapture your youth and bury all those memories of defeat during your prime competitive years. All the training and riding will pay off. I'll hopefully be right there with you pretending I can "maybe" qualify for pro class at the Open.

[Raaar]

Just curious, I know most folks are sporting full-on DH rigs up at the Rock, but is anyone getting it done on shorter travel rigs?

[bizutch]

Just curious, I know most folks are sporting full-on DH rigs up at the Rock, but is anyone getting it done on shorter travel rigs?
of course...you just don't aim so much as you "guide"...aiming on less than a dh rig...bad. I still plan on riding Trail1 on my hardtail in the near future b/c Ben called me out.:clue:

[spoke80]

of course...you just don't aim so much as you "guide"...aiming on less than a dh rig...bad. I still plan on riding Trail1 on my hardtail in the near future b/c Ben called me out.:clue:

Trail 1 including the road gap!

[profro]

oh yeah...in VET.

What does VET have anything to do with it? Thats my age, nuthin I can do about it. :wave:

[dhbuilder]

age don't mean sh..

[bizutch]

Trail 1 including the road gap!
dare was placed prior to obstacle.

can't make me jump the grand canyon if it was a creek bed when we made the bet.:hot:

[Raaar]

of course...you just don't aim so much as you "guide"...aiming on less than a dh rig...bad. I still plan on riding Trail1 on my hardtail in the near future b/c Ben called me out.:clue:

Thanks, i was just curious if anyone was hitting it on 5-6" travel rigs on a normal basis. WR is only about an hour from me and I'd like to check it out. I'm not really a hardcore DH or freeride guy, but I love gnarly tech, and WR looks like it has that in spades.

[dhbuilder]

Thanks, i was just curious if anyone was hitting it on 5-6" travel rigs on a normal basis. WR is only about an hour from me and I'd like to check it out. I'm not really a hardcore DH or freeride guy, but I love gnarly tech, and WR looks like it has that in spades.

you can.
but unless you're a good finesse rider, your bike won't live very long.
even d.h. sleds die prematurely here.

i have a constant wheel rotation going on.
riding one while i wait for stevie to re-build the other.

[Taz]

Just curious, I know most folks are sporting full-on DH rigs up at the Rock, but is anyone getting it done on shorter travel rigs?

Mike McCoy has done everything at Windrock on a Spec.Ed SX (Fox 36 on the front), but take into account he is a AA or A BMX racer (I think that's correct, he rides for Kovachi). But even he said Southern Rocks trail gave him issues.

[JeffD]

Oh you men like Sugar, where I won last year. :oink:

BMX is where its at!

~sniffle~ The kids are gonna be alright~sniffle~

Brady - Mike never raced a 20 that I know of.

[Taz]

Ah ok. I don't know why I thought he had...

[dhbuilder]

i always got the impression he was more of a d.s. rider.
but he did ride here on a vastly inferior bike and did very well.
he smoked one of the races on a full d.h. bike once.

[bizutch]

Ah ok. I don't know why I thought he had...
..because back in the day there were about 20 Kovachi riders...all young, fast groms...all BMXers...all stacked up in the finals of dual slalom's up and down the East Coast.

and Jeff, McCoy did BMX....just nothing to the extent like Walt or Brent did.

[Raaar]

you can.
but unless you're a good finesse rider, your bike won't live very long.
even d.h. sleds die prematurely here.

i have a constant wheel rotation going on.
riding one while i wait for stevie to re-build the other.

After watching the vids of Windrock and looking at some of the pics I can see why bikes & parts would be short lived if you hit it on a regular basis. I ride a Heckler, and while I am a bit of a finesse rider, I know that in it's current configuration it would be DOA after a couple of runs.
If I can round up some beefier parts, though, I'd like to come up there and pay my pound of flesh to the trail gods.

[spoke80]

After watching the vids of Windrock and looking at some of the pics I can see why bikes & parts would be short lived if you hit it on a regular basis. I ride a Heckler, and while I am a bit of a finesse rider, I know that in it's current configuration it would be DOA after a couple of runs.
If I can round up some beefier parts, though, I'd like to come up there and pay my pound of flesh to the trail gods.

A heckler you say. A buddy of mine broke his back riding WR on a heckler. Strange......

[GotMyGED]

A heckler you say. A buddy of mine broke his back riding WR on a heckler. Strange......
I think Carlito was on the Bullit when he renamed windrock "Brokeback mountain".

Weeks later D Jammer weaseled his way into a trade for the bullit while carl was deep into a pain medication binge.

[spoke80]

I think Carlito was on the Bullit when he renamed windrock "Brokeback mountain".

Weeks later D Jammer weaseled his way into a trade for the bullit while carl was deep into a pain medication binge.

I stand corrected.

[ChattDownhill]

My friend and i came up a few weekends ago and i rode my bullit and he rode a heckler. It looked so painful. But i Felt the power of the gods too. i was pretty banged up for like 2 weeks.

[dhbuilder]

My friend and i came up a few weekends ago and i rode my bullit and he rode a heckler. It looked so painful. But i Felt the power of the gods too. i was pretty banged up for like 2 weeks.


yeah. we watched you guys walk a lot.
you'll need to be sportin full armor before ya'll will be riding here again.
skid lids and gym shorts aren't going to cut it.

like i said a few weeks ago. this isn't where you come to learn to d.h.
i don't like havin to be the heavy on this. but when i saw you guys tryin to ride southernrocks, that was the straw that broke the camels back.

[BKQuill]

like i said a few weeks ago. this isn't where you come to learn to d.h.


SOMEBODY forgot to tell Jeff and Brady that when they took me to this place call Windrock!:nopity:

And I love them for it!!:heart:

Thanks goodness I have been a BMXer all my life, and we all know that BMXer's can ride F*%king ANYTHING with 2 wheels!!!!:weee:

[Sherpa]

yeah. we watched you guys walk a lot.
you'll need to be sportin full armor before ya'll will be riding here again.
skid lids and gym shorts aren't going to cut it.


Uhh...how much of a solid rule is that? I always wear a full face, but I'm not really a fan of upper body armor. I'm coming out there this weekend and I'll bring it just in case.

[dhbuilder]

Uhh...how much of a solid rule is that? I always wear a full face, but I'm not really a fan of upper body armor. I'm coming out there this weekend and I'll bring it just in case.

if you're under 18, you'll need to have a legal guardian co-sign your permit paperwork and remain on site while you're riding. that's the coal co's rule
then after you don armor, i'll take you down southernrocks at speed. you'll see why.

these three were way underage.
they walked most everything and slammed a tree or two.
they had no armor to speak of and really need to go and find someplace else to learn on.
i know i'll take flack for this, but it was a scenario that scared the daylights out of me.
this place is NOT FOR BEGINNERS.

when we drop in on a trail, we make a commitment way back at the start. and when three fifteen year old kids are running and can't get out of the way fast enough. that's where i say enough is enough.
i've done my share of hospital time because of this place and i will not have the added hazard of hapless riders sending me there again.

[Sherpa]

i'll take you down southernrocks at speed, then you can make that decision.

these three were way underage.
they walked most everything and slammed a tree or two.
they had no armor to speak of and really need to go and find someplace else to learn on.
i know i'll take flack for this, but it was a scenario that scared the daylights out of me.
this place is NOT FOR BEGINNERS.

when we drop in on a trail, we make a commitment way back at the start. and when three fifteen year old kids are running and can't get out of the way fast enough. that's where i say enough is enough.
i've done my share of hospital time because of this place and i will not have the added hazard of hapless riders sending me there again.

Alright, sounds like it'll be a non-issue. I've been to W-rock before and feel comfortable on the terrain, but I'll prob suit up anyway.

[speed racer]

when we drop in on a trail, we make a commitment way back at the start. and when three fifteen year old kids are running and can't get out of the way fast enough. that's where i say enough is enough.
i've done my share of hospital time because of this place and i will not have the added hazard of hapless riders sending me there again.

Hey man, what kind of injuries did the rock give you, nothing too serious I hope

[spoke80]

Hey man, what kind of injuries did the rock give you, nothing too serious I hope

Dude, he ejected his spleen after a nasty wreck off the "ewok drop"....dirt rest its soul. I had to carry the spleen out and then go back and extract Joey from the clutches of DEATH! The spleen and Joey were reunited at Oak Ridge Hosptial later that day.


Seriously

[speed racer]

WOW, Are you serious? What is the ewok drop? Which trail is it on? I'm telling ya, I have a lot of respect for that place. Anyone that doesn't is asking for it. We will be there this weekend. I'd love the tour. It will only be my second time, and all I got to ride that time was Snakerock. Looking forward to the new stuff.

Also, what kind of tire pressure are you guys running up there to reduce flats. I have two wheelsets I'm bringing one with Stans, and the other DH tubes. What have ya'll seen work best and at what pressure?

[speed racer]

Also, can you give me directions when you getoff I-40 to get there?

[spoke80]

WOW, Are you serious? What is the ewok drop? Which trail is it on? I'm telling ya, I have a lot of respect for that place. Anyone that doesn't is asking for it. We will be there this weekend. I'd love the tour. It will only be my second time, and all I got to ride that time was Snakerock. Looking forward to the new stuff.

Also, what kind of tire pressure are you guys running up there to reduce flats. I have two wheelsets I'm bringing one with Stans, and the other DH tubes. What have ya'll seen work best and at what pressure?


Totally! The ewok-drop was a high speed drop off of the old trail one. I'm getting choked up just remembering the "wonderland".:(

Anyway, your technical questions are to.....technical. Just show up, ride, and repeat. Not trying to be "that" guy but I know that Joey runs low psi and I run a higher psi, it all just depends on what works for you.

[spoke80]

Also, can you give me directions when you getoff I-40 to get there?

Good god man!


Sure now problemo.
1. I-40 East towards Knoxville
2. Exit Pellissippi Parkway/Hwy162 (North towards OakRidge)
3. Stay on Pellissippi Parkway through Oak Ridge
4. After the two bridges named after people turn right onto Windrock Rd.
5. Stay on Windrock Rd. (have you seen Deliverance?)
6. Seriously, stay on the road. No matter what you see!
7. Drive into parking lot
8. Stay on road past the "Snack Shack" on your left
9. Stay on road past the permit shack on you right
10. turn into the upper gravel lot (the one with the mountain bikers)

Directions also detailed here:http://www.windrock-mtb.com/index.php?post=s1121638936

[Raaar]

yeah. we watched you guys walk a lot.
you'll need to be sportin full armor before ya'll will be riding here again.
skid lids and gym shorts aren't going to cut it.

like i said a few weeks ago. this isn't where you come to learn to d.h.
i don't like havin to be the heavy on this. but when i saw you guys tryin to ride southernrocks, that was the straw that broke the camels back.


Well, I know just from the pics that many of you guys are waaay more skilled that I am on a bike-especially when it comes to DH and hucking. But, I've been riding for a long time and am pretty realistic about my limitations. Like i said before, I've seen the pics and vids of Windrock and KNOW I would take a beating there, but if you aren't taking a beating every once in a while you aren't challenging yourself. I haven't taken a real beating on a public/ legal trail in the SE in a long, long time.

[spoke80]

Well, I know just from the pics that many of you guys are waaay more skilled that I am on a bike-especially when it comes to DH and hucking. But, I've been riding for a long time and am pretty realistic about my limitations. Like i said before, I've seen the pics and vids of Windrock and KNOW I would take a beating there, but if you aren't taking a beating every once in a while you aren't challenging yourself. I haven't taken a real beating on a public/ legal trail in the SE in a long, long time.

I have been trying to remember where I know you from on this website and then it finally hit me. You are famous for one of my favorite threads:http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119482&highlight=raaar
.

Anyway, when are you planning on come up to ride?

[GotMyGED]

I have been trying to remember where I know you from on this website and then it finally hit me. You are famous for one of my favorite threads:http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119482&highlight=raaar
.

Anyway, when are you planning on come up to ride?
Wow, that "poaching" thread was intense.

I learned this phrase from my roomates girlfriend the other day---"egotistical maniacs".

I think that applies to a few of the meatheads who were posting on that thread.

[speed racer]

Good god man!


]

Sorry for all the questions, just trying to get everything ready, since I don't get away that much with kids and work and everything. two weekends ago wife broke her leg, last weekend rain out, a go for this weekend and get a call that my great grandmother passed away. IS this a sign or something. Hope not because I am going to try and come up on Tuesday with a couple of buddies. Hopefully the isolated showers that are forecasted will be minimal.

[bizutch]

... two weekends ago wife broke her leg,....she not listen the first time?:devil:

[spoke80]

she not listen the first time?:devil:

holy sh?t! I almost sprayed coffee out of my nose!:rofl:

[spoke80]

Wow, that "poaching" thread was intense.

I learned this phrase from my roomates girlfriend the other day---"egotistical maniacs".

I think that applies to a few of the meatheads who were posting on that thread.


People are passionate about their cycling in these here parts.

[biker3]

So how serious is this over 18 thing? Is the Coal Co. gunna ID us or if we're 17 and look 18 can we just pass on that? We're trying to come out without parents.

Who is going to be riding this weekend? We should be there saturday and sunday.

[Raaar]

I have been trying to remember where I know you from on this website and then it finally hit me. You are famous for one of my favorite threads:http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=119482&highlight=raaar
.

Anyway, when are you planning on come up to ride?


Wasn't me...(Damned archive).

...I'm pretty stoked about getting up to WR, but it won't be until around April. I'll be getting my arse handed to me in Gooseberry Mesa, Sedona, and Flafstaff for the first two weeks of May...Schweeeeet!!

[spoke80]

So how serious is this over 18 thing? Is the Coal Co. gunna ID us or if we're 17 and look 18 can we just pass on that? We're trying to come out without parents.

Who is going to be riding this weekend? We should be there saturday and sunday.

Yes, they are serious and we are serious! Now,since you have posted that you are under 18 you will need your folks in order to ride the trails. I will not lose this little slice of heaven to some outta towners trying to duck the rules. Not to be a dick but that's the way it is.

I'll be there Saturday if I don't get persuaded to race BMX.

[ChrisKring]

So how serious is this over 18 thing? Is the Coal Co. gunna ID us or if we're 17 and look 18 can we just pass on that? We're trying to come out without parents.

Who is going to be riding this weekend? We should be there saturday and sunday.

WTF? If you got caught, they could give the boot to all DH riding. Worse yet if you got hurt.

I guarantee you that we will find you if DH riding gets shut down due to irresponsible behaviour. Why can't one of your parents come out to the hill?

[biker3]

WTF? If you got caught, they could give the boot to all DH riding. Worse yet if you got hurt.

I guarantee you that we will find you if DH riding gets shut down due to irresponsible behaviour. Why can't one of your parents come out to the hill?

chill out man, I was just asking. Wouldn't you prefer I ask before being stupid? It's just a question, and not all of us have parents who are willing to drop everything they are doing and drive 12 hours for their kids. My parents aren't moto mommy and daddy or anything like that so I just wanted to be clear.

[spoke80]

chill out man, I was just asking. Wouldn't you prefer I ask before being stupid? It's just a question, and not all of us have parents who are willing to drop everything they are doing and drive 12 hours for their kids. My parents aren't moto mommy and daddy or anything like that so I just wanted to be clear.

No sweat, and thank you for your inquiry. As you can plainly see we are all very protective of Windrock and you will appreciate why once you have ridden here.

[JeffD]

I'll be there Saturday if I don't get persuaded to race BMX.

Do it, MFer, do it! :redhot:

Consider yourself persuaded :thumb:

[spoke80]

Do it, MFer, do it! :redhot:

Consider yourself persuaded :thumb:

You pipe down. Remember you supposed to be focusing on DH this go round!:rofl:
Plus, it is hard to resist the rock. I can hear the sweet whispers from here..........I must obey.

[JeffD]

Pencilneck. Hit the Rock on Sunday.

[spoke80]

Pencilneck. Hit the Rock on Sunday.

No can do meathead. It is Easter Sunday and I have other obligations. Easter Sunday is the one day I gotta give it up to Jesus. Plus, I rode Windrock after work yesterday so I'll get my quota by Saturday.

[JeffD]

Gotcha. I'm just h8n cuz if I can't ride the Rock, dammit, I don't want anybody else to, either.

[d.e.f.]

No can do meathead. It is Easter Sunday and I have other obligations. Easter Sunday is the one day I gotta give it up to Jesus. Plus, I rode Windrock after work yesterday so I'll get my quota by Saturday.

http://homepage.mac.com/chrisgrovich/iblog/C346297543/E20051220225433/Media/the_big_lebowski_jesus.jpg
"Cause nobody f*cks with the Jesus"

[bizutch]

No can do meathead. It is Easter Sunday and I have other obligations. Easter Sunday is the one day I gotta give it up to Jesus. Plus, I rode Windrock after work yesterday so I'll get my quota by Saturday.
awww man...I'm shooting to get out there this Sunday.

[spoke80]

awww man...I'm shooting to get out there this Sunday.


Sorry honey but I gotta apease the gods. And it is Windrock Mtn. not Brokeback Mtn.!:nuts:

[spoke80]

http://homepage.mac.com/chrisgrovich/iblog/C346297543/E20051220225433/Media/the_big_lebowski_jesus.jpg
"Cause nobody f*cks with the Jesus"

Well if it ain't the mystery man himself. Where the fock have you been!?

[bizutch]

Sorry honey but I gotta apease the gods. And it is Windrock Mtn. not Brokeback Mtn.!:nuts:
hah hah...don't flatter yourself. I only date short GIRLS.:rofl:

[spoke80]

hah hah...don't flatter yourself. I only date short GIRLS.:rofl:

Switch out and show up Saturday. I'm ready for the hardtail challenge!

[bizutch]

oh I'm bringing the hardtail!!! But I cannot do Saturday. Cassidy has a big day that day with an easter egg hunt and festival at the park. She might be two..but she's serious about some Easter eggs!!!

[spoke80]

oh I'm bringing the hardtail!!! But I cannot do Saturday. Cassidy has a big day that day with an easter egg hunt and festival at the park. She might be two..but she's serious about some Easter eggs!!!

We both have to be there for this challenge to go off.

[d.e.f.]

Well if it ain't the mistery man himself. Where the fock have you been!?

Workin', Ridin', Drinkin'

Making an 8 hour trip here in 30 minutes to visit the family and help clean up the farm. Nothing like getting off work to go do work. But, I've just gotta bleed the brakes and I've got a complete jump bike, so I'll be hollarin' come next week.

*edit: nice picture there ben

[spoke80]

Workin', Ridin', Drinkin'

Making an 8 hour trip here in 30 minutes to visit the family and help clean up the farm. Nothing like getting off work to go do work. But, I've just gotta bleed the brakes and I've got a complete jump bike, so I'll be hollarin' come next week.

*edit: nice picture there ben

What picture are you referring to Mysterio?

[d.e.f.]

What picture are you referring to Mysterio?

The one above your name ya sheep f*cker! At least that is the correlation I'm drawing.

[dhbuilder]

Hey man, what kind of injuries did the rock give you, nothing too serious I hope

they were.
and the chronic pain will last the rest of my life.

[bizutch]

they were.
and the chronic pain will last the rest of my life.
yeah...no cure for ugly either is there...

[dhbuilder]

ok, here comes the law.

if you are under 18 you will have to have a legal guardian with you to sign your permit paperwork. and stay on site while you ride.

it's looking like i'm going to have to be in the parking lot to start checking id's.
if that happens, I'LL SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN. and turn it into a private invitation only trail system.
i'm already getting the ball rolling on doing just that, as of today.

i've brought this issue up before when i was having trouble with attitudes out here. and was told by the landowner that i was free to manage this place however i want.

the age issue is a coal co. rule. and i will force all who ride here to abide by it.
if you think for one minute that i'm going to risk all the work i've put in over the last six years, just to let a handful of underage kids come out here and ruin it for the MEN and WOMEN who ride here.
well then you have no idea what an @$$hole you're dealing with.

case closed.

[dhbuilder]

yeah...no cure for ugly either is there...

i'll trade looks for speed any day.

show up sunday and we'll be here.

[spoke80]

they were.
and the chronic pain will last the rest of my life.

I liked my version better.

[dhbuilder]

I liked my version better.

yeah me too.

i just had a flash back to that split second.
people have no idea why i leafblow every stinkin stick and leaf off the trails the way i do.

picked up those parts from your abode awhile ago.
i'm fixin to go see if something in there will work.

[spoke80]

yeah me too.

i just had a flash back to that split second.
people have no idea why i leafblow every stinkin stick and leaf off the trails the way i do.

picked up those parts from your abode awhile ago.
i'm fixin to go see if something in there will work.

I figure something in there will work. If not give MattW a shout. He's got all of Doug's nic-nacs.

[Taz]

yeah me too.

i just had a flash back to that split second.
people have no idea why i leafblow every stinkin stick and leaf off the trails the way i do.

picked up those parts from your abode awhile ago.
i'm fixin to go see if something in there will work.

Don't forget to check your PM I sent you on my site. Need to know whether or not to bring this stuff or wait till another weekend.

[dhbuilder]

brady, you're very quickly becoming a local. not only with your increased prescence, but with the help you've given recently.

treated lumber we can easily keep down at the three way split on the trail.
we can drive through the gate right down to it. and it's a central location for the trails.

thanks man.

[Taz]

Thanks :)

Ok. I will bring as much as I can get ready. Some of the pieces are hella heavy in their current state so those might have to wait till I can further dissassemble the pieces.

[BKQuill]

I'm missing "the rock"
:angry:

:banghead:

:nonono:

[Jeremy R]

Thanks :)

Ok. I will bring as much as I can get ready. Some of the pieces are hella heavy in their current state so those might have to wait till I can further dissassemble the pieces.

Your use of the word "hella" has lost you your local status.
You now have to start over at zero.;)

[BKQuill]

Your use of the word "hella" has lost you your local status.
You now have to start over at zero.;)

I concur!

[seabass]

well then you have no idea what an @$$hole you're dealing with.

No, actually we do.

[Wndrckr]

No, actually we do.

Oh c'mon now. Let's not get this thread derailed and headed in that direction again.:love: :love: :love:

[seabass]

Oh c'mon now. Let's not get this thread derailed and headed in that direction again.:love: :love: :love:

No sir, I wouldn't want to derail anything. I just wanted to clear that up for Joey. Just helpen' out!

This thread is too much fun to mess up. Watching Joey thump his chest and claim Windrock as "his" is too much. Gee, maybe if I walk the line he will ok me to ride!! Should I watch the mail for my "invitation"? I'm giddy with anticipation.

[Taz]

I concur!

Ok you pack of Jones'

[spoke80]

No sir, I wouldn't want to derail anything. I just wanted to clear that up for Joey. Just helpen' out!

This thread is too much fun to mess up. Watching Joey thump his chest and claim Windrock as "his" is too much. Gee, maybe if I walk the line he will ok me to ride!! Should I watch the mail for my "invitation"? I'm giddy with anticipation.

And now my nomination for Hater of the Year!:rofl:

SEABASS

Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate,Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate!

And just in case you all have no idea what I am referring too:http://media.putfile.com/Dave-Chappelle---Player-Haters-Ball

[GotMyGED]

And now my nomination for Hater of the Year!:rofl:

SEABASS

Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate,Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate!

And just in case you all have no idea what I am referring too:http://media.putfile.com/Dave-Chappelle---Player-Haters-Ball
Thats awesome Spoke, i forgot about that episode. "My coat is made out of your momma's pubic hair" - silky johnson

[dhbuilder]

Your use of the word "hella" has lost you your local status.
You now have to start over at zero.;)

yeah man.
that way you're not sitting there all alone.

without a doubt, you get the award for taking the longest to get a bike built up.
there was to be a guy named jeremy who used to ride here, but it was so long ago we all forgot what he looked like.

[seabass]

And now my nomination for Hater of the Year!:rofl:

SEABASS

Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate,Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate, Hate!

And just in case you all have no idea what I am referring too:http://media.putfile.com/Dave-Chappelle---Player-Haters-Ball

That clip was too funny!

[bizutch]

Thank you Ben...thank you for reminding what life is about. Did you remember that clip after seeing my new sig yesterday?

[dhbuilder]

Thank you Ben...thank you for reminding what life is about. Did you remember that clip after seeing my new sig yesterday?

if i ever see jars or cans of instabutch on my grocers shevles, it'll be the unibomber all over again.

[spoke80]

Thank you Ben...thank you for reminding what life is about. Did you remember that clip after seeing my new sig yesterday?

I just thought it was fitting for the conversation.

[bizutch]

if i ever see jars or cans of instabutch on my grocers shevles, it'll be the unibomber all over again.
DUDE! It's been on the shelves for centuries...monks make it, catholics drown in it, irish bathe in it, baptists drink it in funnels...it's called BEER!

Anything in excess of 48 ounces of Beer (instabutch) and you're me! Brash, cocky, excessively chatty, clumsy, overbearing and smelly!

[dhbuilder]

DUDE! It's been on the shelves for centuries...monks make it, catholics drown in it, irish bathe in it, baptists drink it in funnels...it's called BEER!

Anything in excess of 48 ounces of Beer (instabutch) and you're me! Brash, cocky, excessively chatty, clumsy, overbearing and smelly!

i knew there was a reason that i don't drink.
i'm all that except for the smelly part. (except when clad in armor)
and i don't touch a drop.

[dhbuilder]

well other than the occasional post session shiner bock.

[dhbuilder]

butch. i don't know what day you were planning to show up this weekend (if you were.)
but it's looking like saturday will be the shred fest.

i think easter sunday has every one doing other things.
i'll have my stuff there sunday just in case. but i'm planning on trail work.

if terry rides it'll be early and quick, and i haven't heard of other locals plans as of yet.

[Jeremy R]

yeah man.
that way you're not sitting there all alone.

without a doubt, you get the award for taking the longest to get a bike built up.
there was to be a guy named jeremy who used to ride here, but it was so long ago we all forgot what he looked like.

No doubt Joey.
There is even more to it than getting my bike built.
We are supposed to be moving into our new house in June, so not only I am trying to help out up there to save dough, but I am also having to do things at our current house so we can get in on the market in a month. Fun stuff.:dead:

But last night, I built up my Demo all the way except the brake adaptor that came with the Juicy brake does not work on the Boxxer.
You would think coming from the same company it would work :clue: , so as soon as I can get one of those, I am in business.

[bizutch]

butch. i don't know what day you were planning to show up this weekend (if you were.)
but it's looking like saturday will be the shred fest.

i think easter sunday has every one doing other things.
i'll have my stuff there sunday just in case. but i'm planning on trail work.

if terry rides it'll be early and quick, and i haven't heard of other locals plans as of yet.
well...as the same old friggin' story goes...nobody told me that Sunday was Easter! I just don't pay attention to anything holiday oriented unless it's Christmas! So now the wife has pointed out my weekend long obligations not only begin with the Egg hunt and easter festival for our daugther at the park on SATURDAY, but SUNDAY I'll be forced to sit down with the bad seeds and genetic anamoly's my grandmother calls her "others"

[spoke80]

well...as the same old friggin' story goes...nobody told me that Sunday was Easter! I just don't pay attention to anything holiday oriented unless it's Christmas! So now the wife has pointed out my weekend long obligations not only begin with the Egg hunt and easter festival for our daugther at the park on SATURDAY, but SUNDAY I'll be forced to sit down with the bad seeds and genetic anamoly's my grandmother calls her "others"

So we'll see you Saturday then; good now that's settled.

[bizutch]

read my post carefully Ben.

[spoke80]

read my post carefully Ben.

Right. Well, then I will move along now.

[biggins]

ok, here comes the law.

if you are under 18 you will have to have a legal guardian with you to sign your permit paperwork. and stay on site while you ride.

it's looking like i'm going to have to be in the parking lot to start checking id's.
if that happens, I'LL SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN. and turn it into a private invitation only trail system.
i'm already getting the ball rolling on doing just that, as of today.

i've brought this issue up before when i was having trouble with attitudes out here. and was told by the landowner that i was free to manage this place however i want.

the age issue is a coal co. rule. and i will force all who ride here to abide by it.
if you think for one minute that i'm going to risk all the work i've put in over the last six years, just to let a handful of underage kids come out here and ruin it for the MEN and WOMEN who ride here.
well then you have no idea what an @$$hole you're dealing with.

case closed.

lame ass private invite only crap. i am so sick of hearing this crap spewing. granted windrock is the most badass and gnar place to downhill and a resouce that would be sorely missed but going to invite only is a little absurd.

also you keep going on about 15 year olds and this that and the other....windrock is no place to learn to down hill (i agree one should have a lot of other places dialed befor experiencing windrock)walking around stuff...hittin trees...... but this elitest crap is gettin so friggin old.

i agree with most of what you especially about waivers and things of that nature but when we were there years ago riding with you you had no beef with the fact that many of the riders were not wearing much body armor and many of them were in open face helmets.hell we even had two guys with us on hardtails and single crown forks.

i guess soon there will be a ban on hardtails and bikes under 8 inches of travel.

[dhbuilder]

there's nothing i've laid down here that isn't part of the rules and regulations that have been set by the coal co.

and this has never been a true public trail system. and it is never going to be a child care facility.

so therefore that leaves you out in the cold no matter how old you are.

so the next time you have any thing to say to me, save it till you can say it to my face, boy.

[biggins]

there's nothing i've laid down here that isn't part of the rules and regulations that have been set by the coal co.

and this has never been a true public trail system. and it is never going to be a child care facility.

so therefore that leaves you out in the cold no matter how old you are.

so the next time you have any thing to say to me, save it till you can say it to my face, boy.

why are you turning this into a threat?

i am not attacking you, i know what you have there is awesome and your pride and if i had the skills you have in both riding and trail building i would be protective as hell as well but it is also a private run fee area. I could go there any weekend, pay like anyone else, and use the trails. but eliminating kids all together is a little unreal to me i agree they need to sign waivers (or have their parents sign them if they are underage) and be prepared for a beat down a-la windrock but eliminating them completely is insane.

as well i would like to mention i am not a bioy i am a 30 year old adult male.

[bizutch]

why are you turning this into a threat?

i am not attacking you, i know what you have there is awesome and your pride and if i had the skills you have in both riding and trail building i would be protective as hell as well but it is also a private run fee area. I could go there any weekend, pay like anyone else, and use the trails. but eliminating kids all together is a little unreal to me i agree they need to sign waivers (or have their parents sign them if they are underage) and be prepared for a beat down a-la windrock but eliminating them completely is insane.

as well i would like to mention i am not a bioy i am a 30 year old adult male.
what he is saying is that every square inch of the DH that exists there is his doing along with other volunteers who've put in free labor and paid for all the tools, equipment,etc. He is the one who's kept it open to us when they gut stuff, cut new roads, etc. He and the others in that area who do the work have been given the burden of answering to the coal company when stuff goes wrong or right.

If people want to put their efforts on the line and risk getting it shut down, they'll take the necessary steps to shut it down. Joey and crew are in the position to make ALL THE RULES in the DH area. In BMX, you can't show up and ride the track unless you have long sleeves, long pants and a full face helmet and pads on expsed areas of your bike.

It's very reasonable and completely within logic to REQUIRE full face and armor if they see fit! They MAKE THE RULES!

[dhbuilder]

then act like it.

lame ass private crap.
isn't the best way to respond to a post that doesn't concern you anyway.

you've smartassed me in the past. therefore you set the tone.

[biggins]

what he is saying is that every square inch of the DH that exists there is his doing along with other volunteers who've put in free labor and paid for all the tools, equipment,etc. He is the one who's kept it open to us when they gut stuff, cut new roads, etc. He and the others in that area who do the work have been given the burden of answering to the coal company when stuff goes wrong or right.

If people want to put their efforts on the line and risk getting it shut down, they'll take the necessary steps to shut it down. Joey and crew are in the position to make ALL THE RULES in the DH area. In BMX, you can't show up and ride the track unless you have long sleeves, long pants and a full face helmet and pads on expsed areas of your bike.

It's very reasonable and completely within logic to REQUIRE full face and armor if they see fit! They MAKE THE RULES!

butch you know as well i do i am all for all the body armor in the world (maybe its cause i am slow and suck at dh and need to be prepared to bounce off of anything at nay time) I also understand that he is the one that has to answer to all the higher powers and deal with the people in charge and topping that off with trail building/maintenance/riding is a hell of a burden that i could never deal appropriately.

however going to an invite only situation is just elitest as hell. Are ya'll going to start holding tryouts or something to see if someone has the skill leveel to deal with the place before you let them ride there? Wil lthey still have to pay the money just to get turned away after their tryout?

i mean i understand all the work and everything that has gone into and i am highly appreciative of the fact that Joey and all the east TN guys have provided the south with a world class destination for DH but gooign invite only is only gonna take that resource away from many travelling dh'ers out there. what about if say i or someone woke up and wanted to go ride windrock one day and couldnt cause i wasnt on the guest list?

[biggins]

then act like it.

lame ass private crap.
isn't the best way to respond to a post that doesn't concern you anyway.

you've smartassed me in the past. therefore you set the tone.

i have NEVER smartassed you before. i have all the utmost respect for what you have done there and have been scared/hurt/and blown away by the trails you and ebveryone have worked hard to cultivate and that rule does affect me and everyone eklse that isnt in "the club" that wants to ride there. it affects every dh'er in the south that doesnt know you or doug or ben or butch.....

[biggins]

actually there was one time when i smartassed you about driving there every time i want to shuttle. sorry about my lack of memory.

[bizutch]

i have NEVER smartassed you before. i have all the utmost respect for what you have done there and have been scared/hurt/and blown away by the trails you and ebveryone have worked hard to cultivate and that rule does affect me and everyone eklse that isnt in "the club" that wants to ride there. it affects every dh'er in the south that doesnt know you or doug or ben or butch.....
that's it. you mentioned my name in the same sentence as Joey. That's grounds for a beatdown. I'm coming by to remove all that metal from your arm. (Joey is a dirty smelly pirate looking thing...heh):oink:

I'll say it since I always say what no one else will.
Joey-calm down and go dig. NOW! I deserve perfect trails when I eventually show up. :cool: Ben doesn't even own a bike so his posts are the equivalent of getting career advise from Terrell Ownes.
Ben - go get a bike...and ride. Get off the net. Oh...and put down the cigarette.

[biggins]

that's it. you mentioned my name in the same sentence as Joey. That's grounds for a beatdown. I'm coming by to remove all that metal from your arm. (Joey is a dirty smelly pirate looking thing...heh):oink:

I'll say it since I always say what no one else will.
Joey-calm down and go dig. NOW! I deserve perfect trails when I eventually show up. :cool: Ben doesn't even own a bike so his posts are the equivalent of getting career advise from Terrell Ownes.
Ben - go get a bike...and ride. Get off the net. Oh...and put down the cigarette.

i know, i know. i am working on a bike as we speak just need a couple of parts. However its a hardtail and windrock scared me bad enough on a dh rig to know that me bringing one there would result in nothing but carnage.

[dhbuilder]

i'm going to say this again, and as many times as i have to to get the point across.

you go into a motorcycle shop and by a sportbike.
you just can't jump out on the track with aaron yates and matt maladin.

you go into a motorcycle shop and buy a cr450.
you just can't jump out on the track with r.c. and bubba.

you go into a bike shop and by a bike.
you just can't jump in and be flailing on the trails at windrock.
the three kids in question were a hazard to everyone there.

they were in the middle of the trail as i dropped in. they were scrambling to get out of the way.
that's the last thing you need when you're riding here.

anything i see as a safety hazard that will put me in the emergency room. will be eliminated.
whether it's deafall,
dislodged rocks,
washed out trails,
or people who don't belong.

when YOU build a trail system then YOU can let whoever YOU want ride there.

you can't win this arguement. so stop trying.
the list of people who've butted heads with me and lost over the last six years, is growing.
and there's a spot open for you.

six years from now i'll still be here. and this place will be six years worth of work better.
check back with me in six years with a progress report on what you've accomplished.

[biggins]

that's it. you mentioned my name in the same sentence as Joey. That's grounds for a beatdown. I'm coming by to remove all that metal from your arm. (Joey is a dirty smelly pirate looking thing...heh):oink:

I'll say it since I always say what no one else will.
Joey-calm down and go dig. NOW! I deserve perfect trails when I eventually show up. :cool: Ben doesn't even own a bike so his posts are the equivalent of getting career advise from Terrell Ownes.
Ben - go get a bike...and ride. Get off the net. Oh...and put down the cigarette.

i dont know about all the metal, there might be a street market for it, i just looked at the medical invoice, apparently it is valuable enough that i could sell it and buy a dh frame.........

[biggins]

i'm going to say this again, and as many times as i have to to get the point across.

you go into a motorcycle shop and by a sportbike.
you just can't jump out on the track with aaron yates and matt maladin.

you go into a motorcycle shop and buy a cr450.
you just can't jump out on the track with r.c. and bubba.

you go into a bike shop and by a bike.
you just can't jump in and be flailing on the trails at windrock.
the three kids in question were a hazard to everyone there.

they were in the middle of the trail as i dropped in. they were scrambling to get out of the way.
that's the last thing you need when you're riding here.

anything i see as a safety hazard that will put me in the emergency room. will be eliminated.
whether it's deafall,
dislodged rocks,
washed out trails,
or people who don't belong.

when YOU build a trail system then YOU can let whoever YOU want ride there.

you can't win this arguement. so stop trying.
the list of people who've butted heads with me and lost over the last six years, is growing.
and there's a spot open for you.

six years from now i'll still be here. and this place will be six years worth of work better.
check back with me in six years with a progress report on what you've accomplished.

for god sake man, i am not trying to win a friggin argument with you. as a matter of fact i have even blatantly agreed with everything you have said other than the private invite only thing. I was just trying to point out that the elitest attitude of going invite only is basically the same as wiping the place off the map by eliminating many dh'ers in the southeast.

i for one would not want to come barelling down the trail head on into a pile of people either and it would be a major liability issue.

as for building a trail system unfortunately i am not as motivated as you are nor do i have a place to build anything like that.

[dhbuilder]

since for some reason the original poster is unable to delete this thread.
consider it dead.

i'm sure after this next weekend another positive stoke filled thread will be born.

those that really ride here, already know and have no trouble abiding by the rules.
i try to put em out here so that it'll save you from driving here, just to be turned away.

adios.

[seabass]

From the Coal Creek mining website-

Safety Equipment: It is up to the rider to choose and provide their own safety equipment. A common question is "are helmets required". The answer is NO, it is up to the rider. Due to the mountainous terrain, helmets and pads are highly recommended.

It also doesn't say where Joey gets to invite who rides there, but hey if Joey said so then...well you know.

Someone should go to the Coal Creek website and make a call or two to the powers that be. Tell em' you would love to buy a permit, but Joey hasn't sent you an invitation. See what they think.

[seabass]

so the next time you have any thing to say to me, save it till you can say it to my face, boy.

Joey, when someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they want to fight. Actually, debates are fairly common on messageboards.


Also, why do you always want to shut down threads when someone has an opinion that conflicts with yours? You might should build your own messageboard then you can control who posts and if they say something you disagree with- BAM, you can zap em' right in oblivion.

[BKQuill]

I'm getting up to get another beer, who needs one?

[Taz]

I'm getting up to get another beer, who needs one?

Wonderful illustration why I don't post here much! ;) Bunch of naggy goats, probably kin to the devil goat :)

[John M]

Joey, when someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they want to fight. Actually, debates are fairly common on messageboards.


Also, why do you always want to shut down threads when someone has an opinion that conflicts with yours? You might should build your own messageboard then you can control who posts and if they say something you disagree with- BAM, you can zap em' right in oblivion.

What makes you think that Joey (or most anyone ) really cares what you think. What I am wondering did Joey steal you're girl, get you fired from a job. Or is he dateing you're mom?? Why are you so worried about how Joey runs his playground ? I am sure you never show show up to the rock and ride. So whats with all the hassle?
I am happy Joey runs the place the way he does. He makes it safe for all of us to ride.- JM

[ballzy]

ummmm, beeeeeerrrr:agree:

[dhbuilder]

What makes you think that Joey (or most anyone ) really cares what you think. What I am wondering did Joey steal you're girl, get you fired from a job. Or is he dateing you're mom?? Why are you so worried about how Joey runs his playground ? I am sure you never show show up to the rock and ride. So whats with all the hassle?
I am happy Joey runs the place the way he does. He makes it safe for all of us to ride.- JM

john.
i put this guy on the ignore list quite a long time ago.
i know he's there but what he says is blocked.

i don't have time for human barriers that get in the way of what i'm working towards.
i shove em off to the side an keep moving forward.

he has his group of friends and riders. and we have ours. and that's ok.
but he's like an ex that keeps hanging on to your ankle crying "please, please don't leave me." as you're walking out the door.
that's why i'm sure he keeps posting here. being left in the dust must be very tough on the ego.

he's just one of many who have been preaching our failure up here.
you saw first hand last weekend how wrong they are.

just knowing he won't go away is very satisfying

[seabass]

What makes you think that Joey (or most anyone ) really cares what you think.

I don't.

What I am wondering did Joey steal you're girl, get you fired from a job. Or is he dateing you're mom??

Girls, Jobs and Dates? :rofl: Not Joey's strong points.

I am sure you never show show up to the rock and ride. So whats with all the hassle?

I used to but like many locals, grew tired of hearing Joey.

I am happy Joey runs the place the way he does. He makes it safe for all of us to ride.- JM

Good for you. It's good to know that Joey is keeping the folks in S/E Michigan happy. :thumb:

[seabass]

being left in the dust must be very tough on the ego.


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

he's just one of many who have been preaching our failure up here.

Uhhh, no. I wouldn't want anything to happen to Windrock or Joey. I have said many times that we are lucky to have Joey around here. He puts in a time commitment that few others would/could and has built a world class DH playground. Now if he could add just a dash of social skills to his plate we would really see what Windrock could become.

[John M]

I don't.



Girls, Jobs and Dates? :rofl: Not Joey's strong points.



I used to but like many locals, grew tired of hearing Joey.



Good for you. It's good to know that Joey is keeping the folks in S/E Michigan happy. :thumb:

This is a destination place. That means locals dont bring in all the money. You need outsiders money. Not just for the MT. but hotels, party stores, gas stations and places to eat and drink beer.
I will tell you what. The last 6 times we from s/e Mich have showed up,It has been with 25 + people. Thats about $2300 that Joey has brought to Windrock. How much revinue has you're big fat mouth brought in to Windrock or any place for that matter. So when you say Joey does nothing for the "biking scene" think again.
Not only is he bring in money for Windrock, How about ALL the rooms we fill (20 rooms were booked for my group alone) not to mention the all of us eating out while we were there.
Its clear to everyone on this board. You have got a hard on for Joey.
If you dont ride Windrock, why do you worry about it so much.
Did Joey get better than you? Can you not jump the big jumps? Are there just too many rocks there? Or are you just a big fat pussy and can only speak when he is behind a keyboards and monitor?
If you dont like what I have said here..... Please let me just pm you the next time I am there..... I would love to have a face to face with you. Maybe you should get a hobby to keep you busy. Needle pointe might be good but it does include pointy things so that may be a bit extreme. Maybe a dog or even a fern would be about you're speed-JM

[seabass]

Or are you just a big fat pussy and can only speak when he is behind a keyboards and monitor?
If you dont like what I have said here..... Please let me just pm you the next time I am there..... I would love to have a face to face with you.

Good stuff!! How's that "I'll beat you up" strategy workin' out for you? Haven't run into that much as an adult, but whatever makes you feel good.

As far as being a pussy and only speaking from behind a keyboard, I'm far from it. I'm pretty much an asshole in person as well and can back it up. PM with my cell # sent.

[John M]

Good stuff!! How's that "I'll beat you up" strategy workin' out for you? Haven't run into that much as an adult, but whatever makes you feel good.

As far as being a pussy and only speaking from behind a keyboard, I'm far from it. I'm pretty much an asshole in person as well and can back it up. PM with my cell # sent.

I never said "Ill beat you up" What I said is "I would like to have a face to face with you" That would consist of two people talking.
As far as you're phone # why would I want to talk to a self-proclaimed "asshole"???

I do like the way you avoided all the rest of my post. It really is hard to argue logic. So the next best thing is to piss and moan about being a tuff guy.

I now will take the Joey approach, and just put you on ignore.
To argue with you is just plain stupid. You mean nothing to me.-JM

[Taz]

Reason number 242345345 to wear the proper gear at windrock!

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/album91/IMG_0330_1.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/album91/IMG_0329_1.sized.jpg

Troy Lee SE helmet demolished and being worn by a very compitent rider.

[SpaZwEll]

Reason number 242345345 to wear the proper gear at windrock!


Troy Lee SE helmet demolished and being worn by a very compitent rider.

Ohhh damn. :eek: I think I know who's helmet that is/was. Must have been killing it. I hate I could not make it up there today. Being on call sucks.

[Wndrckr]

Reason number 242345345 to wear the proper gear at windrock!

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/album91/IMG_0330_1.sized.jpg

http://www.hcor.net/gallery/album91/IMG_0329_1.sized.jpg

Troy Lee SE helmet demolished and being worn by a very compitent rider.

Yep, looks like Southern Rocks has been fed lately.

[speed racer]

Ouch, Who to and how did that happen. and is everyone OK?

[profro]

It wasn't on SR, but on the jump out of the woods at the very end of the trails, just before the parking lot. Wyatt jumped out too far, compressed off the flat transition and got bucked over the bars coming to rest inches from the road. No ER visit, but I'm guessing broken ribs.

[biggins]

It wasn't on SR, but on the jump out of the woods at the very end of the trails, just before the parking lot. Wyatt jumped out too far, compressed off the flat transition and got bucked over the bars coming to rest inches from the road. No ER visit, but I'm guessing broken ribs.

holy crap, i dont know wyatt but that looks friggin brutal.

[ballzy]

holy crap, i dont know wyatt but that looks friggin brutal.
Chris Wyatt?

[Taz]

Chris Wyatt?

Yes that Wyatt

[Wndrckr]

Sorry to hear/see that. Heal up soon Chris.

[speed racer]

Yeah Chris, Hope you're Ok! Ashley here, give me a call.