I ate McDonald's for lunch yesterday...

[BurlyShirley]

...for the first time this year. I had a Big Mac and a large fries, and it tasted pretty damned good.

My heart didnt quit beating and I didnt vomit all over my living room either. Id say it was a positive experience.

[N8]

Burger King pw3z McD's

[Westy]

I have to say I enjoy their fries after a long ride. Seems to be the best medium to load 3lbs of salt onto and still taste good. That is just one of the great things about long rides, what else can you do that makes eating something with 3 packets of salt on it healthy?

[Echo]

My heart didnt quit beating and I didnt vomit all over my living room either. Id say it was a positive experience.
There's a glowing endorsement if I ever heard one :D

[BurlyShirley]

Burger King pw3z McD's
Double Bacon Whopper :drool:

I wonder why the heck people get so pissy about fast food? How is a big mac any worse than some burger you fry up in the back yard? Its just meat (or some filler too) on bread. Why does it matter where you buy it?

[BurlyShirley]

There's a glowing endorsement if I ever heard one :D
Well the way people talk about it, youd think it was like eating dead babyfat mixed with bleach or something.

[SkaredShtles]

Well the way people talk about it, youd think it was like eating dead babyfat mixed with bleach or something.
I'm pretty sure that would taste better than McD's stuff. :)

[Tenchiro]

I wish there was a Burger King around here sometimes.

[JRB]

Our local BK owner got busted for drugs and the building is sitting idle. No McDonald's here in Cameron, but have 4 in Temple. :confused:

I like homestyle burgers at McDonalds's because of the mustard having tons of black pepper.

[N8]

I wish there was a Burger King around here sometimes.


Where the hell do you live? The bottom of the ocean?

[stevew]

...for the first time this year. I had a Big Mac and a large fries, and it tasted pretty damned good.

My heart didnt quit beating and I didnt vomit all over my living room either. Id say it was a positive experience.
You need a Giant #13 from Jersey Mikes.

[SkaredShtles]

Where the hell do you live? The bottom of the ocean?
:stupid:

[JRB]

Where the hell do you live? The bottom of the ocean?
hahahaha :rofl:

[Tenchiro]

Where the hell do you live? The bottom of the ocean?


Here as in 1st Hill in Seattle. Very little fast food within walking distance. Mcdonalds, Subway and Quiznos. Although there are 5 places to get coffee and over half are Starbucks. :rolleyes:

[peter6061]

I think I've had McD's 3 times this week so far, and I've still got tomorrow.

Convenience has it's price. --> my developing gut.

Guess that's why I have to ride 5+ times a week.

Mmmmmm..... #3 and a 4 piece nuggets

[bluebug32]

I love reading books/mags. on biking and seeing stuff like that Lance eats cookies while he rides for quick energy and that potato chips aren't bad to eat during a ride because of the salt. Damn, I knew I picked this sport for a reason :thumb:

[Tenchiro]

Now that I think about it there is a nice little Polish deli with the best Reuben Sandwich I have ever had.

:drool:

[N8]

Now that I think about it there is a nice little Polish deli with the best Reuben Sandwich I have ever had.

:drool:


Isn't there only two food groups in Seattle?

Beer & coffee?

[Tenchiro]

Isn't there only two food groups in Seattle?

Beer & coffee?

Coffee and Everything Else.

[laura]

The last time i ate mcdonald's i was sick for three days. I fed some to my puupy and she was sick for three days too. yuck.


frozen cokes are the bomb though.

[JRB]

The last time i ate mcdonald's i was sick for three days. I fed some to my puupy and she was sick for three days too. yuck.


frozen cokes are the bomb though.
Once a lady was burned with hot coffee, and it's rumored that someone found a fried chicken head in their nuggets. They should just shut them down. Making you and a puppy sick is just unforgiveable.

[The Toninator]

That hamburger patty contains the beef from 3,000 different cows. It also contains ‘acceptable’ amounts of sinew, ‘fillers’ and $hit.

[The Toninator]

I love reading books/mags. on biking and seeing stuff like that Lance eats cookies while he rides for quick energy and that potato chips aren't bad to eat during a ride because of the salt. Damn, I knew I picked this sport for a reason :thumb:
a full flavored soda after a good ride is also acceptable. quick cals.

[SkaredShtles]

That hamburger patty contains the beef from 3,000 different cows. It also contains ‘acceptable’ amounts of sinew, ‘fillers’ and $hit.
What's wrong with sinew? :confused:

[jvp108]

Anyone have Five Guys Burgers and Fries yet? You will never go back to fast food again....

[ThePriceSeliger]

Anyone have Five Guys Burgers and Fries yet? You will never go back to fast food again....
I had it for the first time the other day. It was the best food I've ever had in my life! Well, cheese burgers and fries... They were good.

[I Are Baboon]

McDonald's is crap. Crap quality, crap preparation, crappy crap crap. But by all means, chow down if you enjoy grade C meat. :)

There's a reason their burgers are 59 cents, and it's not because they buy it in bulk.

[Westy]

What's wrong with sinew? :confused:


No doubt. Put some cream sauce on it and give it a french name and you probably could get some jackass to pay $25 for a plate of it.

[peter6061]

Anyone have Five Guys Burgers and Fries yet? You will never go back to fast food again....
Naw, still the convenience factor. Five guys is great, but in a hurry, I can have already eaten my McDs and been home before you even get a burger at five guys.

Still a big thumbs up for five guys (if you have time). :thumb:

[berkshire_rider]

frozen cokes are the bomb though.

7-11. Some of them have frozen Dew, as well.

[laura]

7-11. frozen Dew

http://smilies.vidahost.com/otn/puke/repuke.gif

That being said, We don't 7-11 around here anymore anyways.

[3D.]

Double Bacon Whopper :drool:

I wonder why the heck people get so pissy about fast food? How is a big mac any worse than some burger you fry up in the back yard? Its just meat (or some filler too) on bread. Why does it matter where you buy it?


Hear are some reasons why they’re different:

1. Fast Food beef and chicken are loaded with nitrates (preservative also found in old forms of crop dust), keeps meat from spoiling, can cause cancer.

2. Fast Food beef and chicken are loaded with antibiotics (from when the animals become diseased or sick), and pesticides (from cattle grazing).

3. Most cattle raised for high production commercial purposes, are often fed regenerated cow (and other animal) meat scraps turned into “meal”, hence the “mad cow disease”. Cow’s are herbivores not carnivores, when they are subjected to meat like this, it has a serious effect on their overall health condition (makes them sick).

4. The “filler” that was mentioned, usually contains large amounts of soy byproducts. Soy, when used in unfermented ways (fermented, meaning soy sauce, tempeh, or miso), is revealing itself to be extremely bad for the thyroid gland. Also, the isoflavones in soy are forms of estrogen that are very harmful to the body. And yes, people will say soy has been used for thousands of years in the East. True, but these new types of mechanically processed soy products have not, they are virtually untested, unproven, and rake in huge profits (you know what that means).

5. The bun your eating in fast food joints, loaded with partially (if not fully) hydrogenated oil. I won’t even begin to explain this one, if your interested, look it up. I will say that there are much more severe problems associated with it, other than just making you fat! It also contains a lot of processed sugar and is made from bleached white flour (so yea, you are kinda eating bleach) that contains aluminum in the baking powder (leads to Alzheimer’s).

6. The cheese is made from standard industry dairy cows. Milk that is loaded with the Bovine Growth Hormone, antibiotics, pesticides. Bad stuff for everyone. Not to mention most low grade cheese is made with animal “rennet” (boiled stomach liner and other parts) instead of plant rennet. (a good book to cross reference on milk, written by Dr. Heimlich's [the maneuver] wife called "Milk the Deadly Poison", it will blow your mind)


When you make burgers on the grill at home, you can buy “free range” or “organically grown meat“. It’s more expensive, but it’s your health and the length of your life we’re talking about here, screw what ever is cheaper! You can also buy cheese from companies like “Horizon”, made with NO animal rennet, just look on the back of the rapper next time your shopping. And the bread, you can go buy the good stuff with that too. Buy some buns from Trader Joes, Whole Foods, or Wild Oats. Sh!t, buy all your food from places like these and help bring down this countries escalating Terminal Illness and Obesity rate, and potentially add decades to the length of your life!

Peace Out!

[Tenchiro]

I think you are underestimating the quality of commercial food and and overstating the benefits of "natural" products.

[SkaredShtles]

Hear are some reasons why they’re different:

<snip a bunch of hippyspeak>
Obesity rate, and potentially add decades to the length of your life!

Peace Out!
Forget all that crap. Fast food tastes like ass. End of story. :p

[3D.]

Forget all that crap. Fast food tastes like ass. End of story. :p


I agree, but we're the lucky ones!

[SkaredShtles]

I agree, but we're the lucky ones!
No luck involved in it...........

[Westy]

Forget all that crap. Fast food tastes like ass. End of story. :p


Some fast food is good. Baja Fresh burritos are my crack cocaine.

[Tenchiro]

Some fast food is good. Baja Fresh burritos are my crack cocaine.

Chicken Ultimo! :drool:

[Westy]

Chicken Ultimo! :drool:


Those words make my mouth water. The icing on the cake is the green salsa, I have literally drank the stuff.

[Tenchiro]

Those words make my mouth water. The icing on the cake is the green salsa, I have literally drank the stuff.

I use the Rojo, sooo good.

[3D.]

I think you are underestimating the quality of commercial food and and overstating the benefits of "natural" products.


I'm not overstating anything, and there is really nothing to underestimate in regards to commercial food. Most of the crap you buy from your average grocery store is completely messed with. Have you ever heard of GMO's before, do some homework on this type of stuff, no actually do a few years worth of research on the ingredient lists you may stare at, only being able to recognize or understand maybe one or two items on, while you’re shopping at your crap store. I think your stance will be much different!

Remember, these types of fvcked ingredients have only been around for about 50 years, they coexist, almost exactly, with how long this country has begun to become very diseased, fat, and sick.

[jvp108]

Some fast food is good. Baja Fresh burritos are my crack cocaine.

You've obviously never had Chipotle. Makes Baja Fresh seem like Taco Bell on a plate.

[H8R]

Double Bacon Whopper :drool:

I wonder why the heck people get so pissy about fast food? How is a big mac any worse than some burger you fry up in the back yard? Its just meat (or some filler too) on bread. Why does it matter where you buy it?

I saw my doctor yesterday.


He's giving me 6 months to get my cholesterol down or I need to go on medication.

I've been eating like total crap lately, grabbing the occasional fast food when I'm on the run or just eating chicken and rice, etc.

The burger joints are off my list for good.

One thing he warned me about too - chicken and shrimp are a huge no-no. That came as a surprise.

[stinkyboy]

http://www.bajafresh.com/images/us//local/products/thumb/BurritoUltimoLG.jpg

:drool:

[jvp108]

Remember, these types of fvcked ingredients have only been around for about 50 years, they coexist, almost exactly, with how long this country has begun to become very diseased, fat, and sick.

My opinion is that you become fat because you eat more calories than you burn. Simple as that.

[SkaredShtles]

Some fast food is good. Baja Fresh burritos are my crack cocaine.
I don't doubt that. There has to be a market for decent food served reasonably quickly.

How about: "classic" fast food tastes like a$$......?

[SkaredShtles]

You've obviously never had Chipotle. Makes Baja Fresh seem like Taco Bell on a plate.
Chipotle blows a$$.

[jvp108]

I don't doubt that. There has to be a market for decent food served reasonably quickly.



There is a market, it is called "fast casual" in the MBA world.

I'll ignore that chipotle blows comment.

[SkaredShtles]

I'm not overstating anything, and there is really nothing to underestimate in regards to commercial food. Most of the crap you buy from your average grocery store is completely messed with. <snip a bunch of hippyspeak>
Processed food sucks.

I'm not afraid of produce and meat at my grocery.

[SkaredShtles]

There is a market, it is called "fast casual" in the MBA world.

I'll ignore that chipotle blows comment.
It does blow. Their tortillas are like rubber.

If you want good "fast casual" Mex-type stuff go to Little Anita's. :)

[3D.]

My opinion is that you become fat because you eat more calories than you burn. Simple as that.

I agree with that fully, but do some reading about trans-fatty acids, you'll see that there's a little more to it.

[3D.]

Processed food sucks.

I'm not afraid of produce and meat at my grocery.

I'm the furthest thing from a hippie... and how can you be afraid these things when your not aware of them?

[jvp108]

It does blow. Their tortillas are like rubber.

If you want good "fast casual" Mex-type stuff go to Little Anita's. :)


The next time i see one of their 8 stores I'll try it.

The only thing Albuquerque has to offer are hot air balloons.

[Tenchiro]

I'm not overstating anything, and there is really nothing to underestimate in regards to commercial food. Most of the crap you buy from your average grocery store is completely messed with. Have you ever heard of GMO's before, do some homework on this type of stuff, no actually do a few years worth of research on the ingredient lists you may stare at, only being able to recognize or understand maybe one or two items on, while you’re shopping at your crap store. I think your stance will be much different!

Remember, these types of fvcked ingredients have only been around for about 50 years, they coexist, almost exactly, with how long this country has begun to become very diseased, fat, and sick.

The dutch began genetically modifying foods hundreds of years ago through methods such as selective breeding and cross pollenation. It is the primary reason that we have such a large selection of produce available. Cabbage, Cauliflower and Brussel Sprouts were all develeoped from the same plant in this manner (for example).

Modern GMO foods for the most part are developed to produce higher yields, and be more disease and pest resistant. Both of which reduce the costs associated in production and make them ideal for poor or developing countries.

For a good example look into what Norman Borlaug did for wheat production in India & Pakistan. He is credited for saving a something like a billion people from starvation with his work.

I do agree however that some food products contain way to many chemicals and preservatives, that is why I try to stick to foods where I can pronounce the ingredient list.

[3D.]

The dutch began genetically modifying foods hundreds of years ago through methods such as selective breeding and cross pollenation. It is the primary reason that we have such a large selection of produce available. Cabbage, Cauliflower and Brussel Sprouts were all develeoped from the same plant in this manner (for example).

Modern GMO foods for the most part are developed to produce higher yields, and be more disease and pest resistant. Both of which reduce the costs associated in production and make them ideal for poor or developing countries.

For a good example look into what Normal Borlaug did for wheat production in India & Pakistan. He is credited for saving a something like a billion people from starvation with his work.

I do agree however that some food products contain way to many chemicals and preservatives, that is why I try to stick to foods where I can pronounce the ingredient list.



GMO's have had some success, I agree. But other than the related unknown long term health hazards with them (which are many), there is one major problem. Genetically modified seeds are Patented by huge food corporations. So when they are bought and planted by third world nations, the plants and their seeds can not be regenerated, without paying large royalties to the companies that own the patents. Further more, the exclusive use of GMO plants will eventually make these countrys’ native plant forms extinct.

The problem list with GMO’s just goes on and on, why do you think they are illegal in most of Europe?

[Westy]

How hard is it to screw up mexican food. Went to a local joint Wednesday and had the worst burrito ever. So bland, should be a crime. I'm not a big fan of hot food but I think there salsa consisted of diced tomatoes and a twist of lime, tomato is not a spice.

[3D.]

Just a little reading for who ever is interested, I have to go now, later.

http://www.foeeurope.org/GMOs/tomato_action/turkey/GDO_DeclarationEnglish%20(1).pdf

[N8]

The next time i see one of their 8 stores I'll try it.

The only thing Albuquerque has to offer are hot air balloons.



Excellent!

You won't be staying then???


:)

[jvp108]

Excellent!

You won't be staying then???


:)

I would love to live in santa fe if i was old and had 10 million in the bank. NM is pretty, esp. the aspens in the fall.

Oh yeah, and there are sweet weapons labs. I know because I've been.

[N8]

I would love to live in santa fe if i was old and had 10 million in the bank. NM is pretty, esp. the aspens in the fall.

Oh yeah, and there are sweet weapons labs. I know because I've been.


oh wow.

[The Toninator]

whatupwilly can totally dawg y'all out when it comes to fast fude burgers.

http://www.foodfacts.info/blog/2006/03/in-n-out-100-x-100.html

[Tenchiro]

GMO's have had some success, I agree. But other than the related unknown long term health hazards with them (which are many), there is one major problem. Genetically modified seeds are Patented by huge food corporations. So when they are bought and planted by third world nations, the plants and their seeds can not be regenerated, without paying large royalties to the companies that own the patents. Further more, the exclusive use of GMO plants will eventually make these countrys’ native plant forms extinct.

The problem list with GMO’s just goes on and on, why do you think they are illegal in most of Europe?

The business/political end of the GMO debate I won't comment on, but like I said almost every single piece of produce we have available has been genetically modified, by Europeans even.

As far as GMO plants causing the extinction of native species, I doubt that is really the case. Most food crops in the world have been introduced from other places anyways. Potatos for example originated in South America and were then introduced to Europe.

Even if a native crop were in danger of being removed/replaced from the local ecosystem, it is estimated that 99% of all living species are already extinct and were so long before human intervention.

[kinghami3]

Here as in 1st Hill in Seattle. Very little fast food within walking distance. Mcdonalds, Subway and Quiznos. Although there are 5 places to get coffee and over half are Starbucks. :rolleyes:
I feel Tenchiro's pain. The only BK I can think of is in Rainier Valley, and there are no DQ's in Seattle. There is a Quizno's on 45th, a Wendey's on 15th West, a Subway on campus, and a Jack in the Box in Ballard, but fast food in Seattle is surprisingly scarce.

[Toshi]

My opinion is that you become fat because you eat more calories than you burn. Simple as that.
true, but what you eat matters, too. everyone knows that saturated fat raises your bad (LDL) cholesterol, and that high levels of LDL are linked with high rates of death from heart attacks and such, no? well, trans-fatty acids act much like saturated fat...

[SkaredShtles]

How hard is it to screw up mexican food.
We've got dozens of Mex restaurants to choose from out here and let me tell you: apparently it's *really* easy to screw up Mexican food. :mad:

[Spunger]

How hard is it to screw up mexican food

Well where I live Mexican's do it all the time, mainly at Taco Bell (it's not really Mexican food). But it can be done :)

There's a lot of mexican fast food places here (Rudy's, Baja Fresh, Taco Bell, El Pollo Loco, Del Taco) to name a few and on a consistant basis most of their food is blah. Baja Fresh is probably better out of them because their salsa bar isn't the greatest but atleast their guac is decent.

Nothing beats an authentic place though. And even here in town where they are everywhere only a few get my thumbs up. If they don't have a good salsa bar OR a good menu mexican food can be butchered pretty bad. That's probably why I frequent the same place because it's consistant. Never yet had a bad meal (2+ years running once a week) :)

[Tenchiro]

How hard is it to screw up mexican food. \

Heh come to Seattle, and you will find out.

[N8]

I am leery of all mexican food more than 500 miles of the Rio Grande river valley...

[peter6061]

Mmmmm, mexican food. Wait, I'm in Virginia. We don't have that here. Guess it's time for McDonalds today. (Had Five Guys on Sunday)

[The Toninator]

\

Heh come to Seattle, and you will find out.

i ate at the little mexican food place in whistler, it wasnt 'bad' it just wasnt really mexican food. It was kind of like the owner stayed at a holiday inn exress the night before.

[TN]

I'm pretty sure that would taste better than McD's stuff. :)
I fuggin' hope so. Food for some is merely fuel ($hitty fuel for BS) & a hedonistic pleasure for others (there is no pleasure in $hit).