steel/carbon....new frame [Archive]

ito

03-29-2006, 10:05 PM

Seeing this improved my mood today

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/dracobikes/Side.jpg

New bike from Draco in Rochester. It is painted, will be in my hands by early next week, and will get an el cheapo build for Sea Otter where it will be broken in.

oooh, shiny.

The Ito

MtnbikeMike

03-29-2006, 10:06 PM

Beauty :thumb:

ito

03-29-2006, 10:10 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/dracobikes/upskirt.jpg

Ass shot.

The Ito

LordOpie

03-29-2006, 10:22 PM

Did you buy that from some stranger off the street? ;)

sweet!

chicodude

03-30-2006, 12:11 AM

How much?

ito

03-30-2006, 06:48 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/dracobikes/dropouts.jpg

The paint.

The Ito

ito

03-30-2006, 10:17 AM

Did you buy that from some stranger off the street? ;)

sweet!

Bought it off of some wierdo on the internet.....

The Ito

The Toninator

03-30-2006, 10:33 AM

SWEET i expect a full write up afterwards.

Wumpus

03-30-2006, 02:10 PM

Nice looking frame.

I really like my carbon seatstays on my steel Walker.

The Toninator

03-30-2006, 02:41 PM

Nice looking frame.

I really like my carbon seatstays on my steel Walker.

seriously, don made a carbon/steel bastard?
where's the pic?

BIRDMAN111

03-30-2006, 05:31 PM

wow that looks weird, but sweet. whats it weigh?

ito

03-30-2006, 05:53 PM

wow that looks weird, but sweet. whats it weigh?

3.5 pounds fully painted and all that.

The Ito

BIRDMAN111

03-30-2006, 06:10 PM

coolio

chicodude

03-30-2006, 08:00 PM

How Much!?!?!

Dirty

03-30-2006, 08:06 PM

How Much!?!?!

seriously...
and how do you get in touch with these draco folks? im in the ROC

ito

03-30-2006, 09:18 PM

draco

03-31-2006, 12:50 AM

jtframe[at]frontiernet.net

You can reach John at his email. As for the price, I can't really answer as I don't know the retail for this. It was a custom job done one-off for a friend. You'll have to ask John.

The Ito

I would be asking $1250 shipped in the US. But it is not a stock thing.. Ryan chose his own geometry. It really looks great in person. I hope it looks really great rolling over finish lines...

The Toninator

03-31-2006, 06:30 AM

I would be asking $1250 shipped in the US. But it is not a stock thing.. Ryan chose his own geometry. It really looks great in person. I hope it looks really great rolling over finish lines...
that's yours? nice work.

Hey what do you use to bond the carbon to the steel?

draco

03-31-2006, 08:28 AM

that's yours? nice work.

Hey what do you use to bond the carbon to the steel?

A specific multi-part epoxy for bonding carbon to steel/aluminum. From 3M. Thanks!

beaverbiker

03-31-2006, 05:30 PM

that frame is rediculous. ive been thinking of doing something along these lines for a while now. this just makes me want to do it even more. f'ing gorgeous, i must say.

Wumpus

04-02-2006, 11:09 AM

seriously, don made a carbon/steel bastard?
where's the pic?

Pre-paint:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/XbikeChrisFinished.jpg

Still at the painter. Seatstays haven't been glued.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/walkerPaint.jpg

My camera sucks because this pic doesn't do the paint justice.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/X-bikeChrisRear.jpg

He has done quite a few carbon stay bikes.

maxyedor

04-03-2006, 11:27 PM

Wow that is a damn cool frame, personaly I would have done a clearcoat instead of paint, but damn, if it isn't sexy anyway.

Wumpus

04-05-2006, 01:10 PM

Wow that is a damn cool frame, personaly I would have done a clearcoat instead of paint, but damn, if it isn't sexy anyway.

I like it painted better.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/RoadSteenAssembledCloseup.jpg

The Toninator

04-05-2006, 02:25 PM

I like it painted better.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/RoadSteenAssembledCloseup.jpg

so that's steen's (he used to race for my team) bike right? where's youres, it's a cx right?

Wumpus

04-05-2006, 05:37 PM

so that's steen's (he used to race for my team) bike right? where's youres, it's a cx right?

Yeah, that was Steen's old one. Is he still riding?

If you scroll up, I posted some pics, but here is a built up one.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/XbikeChrisBuilt.jpg

The Toninator

04-06-2006, 07:00 AM

Yeah, that was Steen's old one. Is he still riding?

If you scroll up, I posted some pics, but here is a built up one.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/Aydynj/XbikeChrisBuilt.jpg
sweet nice bike.

Yea last i heard steen was racing. but it's been a while.

jonKranked

04-06-2006, 01:32 PM

i can't wait for my draco for DH season :D

chicodude

04-06-2006, 06:45 PM

They would be so much prettier if they didn't say "WALKER" in hideous typeface on the DT.

ito

04-06-2006, 09:38 PM

They would be so much prettier if they didn't say "WALKER" in hideous typeface on the DT.

agreed.

Bike is built. Scale says sub-24 lbs with non-bling build. My current plans will knock of 3-4lbs without a problem. This race season isn't even going to be fair. Rides really nice, though a bit longer than I was expecting. Super smooth. Pics soon.

The Ito

Wumpus

04-06-2006, 10:07 PM

Bike is built.

Where are the pics?

ito

04-06-2006, 11:50 PM

Quick pics, I'll get nicer ones later.

Sub-24 right now. Will be lighter later on when I have money and time.

I'm very excited.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/itohill/4219e725.jpg
full bike

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/itohill/24c39512.jpg
drivetrain

I'll be at Sea Otter, so if you see me be sure to say hello.

The Ito

Huph

04-26-2006, 07:04 AM

Man that is a hot looking frame.

I built a new steel hardtail around a Cotic Soul 853 frame a couple of months.

It is SOOOO nice to ride.

Look here (http://www.vorb.org.nz/ftopict-36011.html) it is.

Fame is 4.3 lbs. Total about 27 lbs but I still have to replace the make do bar & stem, and save up for some nice wheels. Currently on Crosslands run UST tyres so hope to drop another pound or two.

Enjoy your new bike.

blue

04-26-2006, 06:29 PM

How does that chain stay on through the rough stuff? Is that what the thingy clamped to the seattube does?

ito

04-27-2006, 01:42 PM

How does that chain stay on through the rough stuff? Is that what the thingy clamped to the seattube does?

I added a big chainring as a bash guard to the outside and the inside is a Third Eye Chain Stop. Worked great at Sea Otter (muddiest, craziest trail I could have tested it on) and has worked everywhere else no problem.

however gears suck and I'm going singlespeed on it. Unfortunately this beautiful bike is stuck doing porch warming duty until I can afford a fork, brakes, and a crankset.

The Ito

reflux

04-27-2006, 06:12 PM

I added a big chainring as a bash guard to the outside and the inside is a Third Eye Chain Stop. Worked great at Sea Otter (muddiest, craziest trail I could have tested it on) and has worked everywhere else no problem.

however gears suck and I'm going singlespeed on it. Unfortunately this beautiful bike is stuck doing porch warming duty until I can afford a fork, brakes, and a crankset.

The Ito
The Ito,

I've used the N-Gear for the same purpose. The sucker is freakin brilliant.

Is the fork not yours? What are your thoughts on it? I'm in the market for a cheapo fork for my single and the blacks are all over the interweb.

I'm too lazy to check the rest of the thread. How is the ride? Is it much of an improvement over a quality build of 853/753/etc?

ito

05-03-2006, 12:46 PM

The Ito,

I've used the N-Gear for the same purpose. The sucker is freakin brilliant.

Is the fork not yours? What are your thoughts on it? I'm in the market for a cheapo fork for my single and the blacks are all over the interweb.

I'm too lazy to check the rest of the thread. How is the ride? Is it much of an improvement over a quality build of 853/753/etc?

Fork works great, but is heavier than I would like. It is now with its rightful owner so my bike is sad. Looking at a Reba or a Fox. I can't say a Black would be a bad choice though.

Ride quality is amazing. Easy on the back side, stiff, light, great geometry for XC riding. I've only ridden one or two 853/753 bikes and I loved them, but they were never stiff enough it seemed like. This bike has a solid back end.

The Ito

bjanga

05-04-2006, 01:06 AM

What is the point of carbon stays? Bling? A little bit of flex in one direction but stiff in the other?

I would worry about cracking/scratching one of those stays in a crash or something.

umberto

05-07-2006, 07:04 PM

What is the point of carbon stays? Bling? A little bit of flex in one direction but stiff in the other?

I would worry about cracking/scratching one of those stays in a crash or something.
It's supposed to help absorb some vibration and flex a little as well as be lighter and look SWEET
nice bike:love:

Wumpus

02-05-2008, 08:58 AM

MMcG

02-05-2008, 11:11 AM

Isn't the ito rocking a Surly Karate Monkey these days??

ito

02-05-2008, 12:36 PM

So how's the bikey doing?

The frame is holed up somewhere in Rochester. I rode it at Sea Otter two years back and it was awesome, sadly my case of bronchitis came back, along with some strep throat. Couldn't work+Too much school=bike in pieces. Plus the frame needs a re-paint thanks to the paint shop selling the wrong primer to the Draco crew.

I'm hoping to ship it out here and build it up someday. For now I'll keep the Karate Monkey running and maybe, if I'm lucky, a short travel slalom frame will be in the works.

Wumpus

02-05-2008, 02:05 PM

The frame is holed up somewhere in Rochester. I rode it at Sea Otter two years back and it was awesome, sadly my case of bronchitis came back, along with some strep throat. Couldn't work+Too much school=bike in pieces. Plus the frame needs a re-paint thanks to the paint shop selling the wrong primer to the Draco crew.

I'm hoping to ship it out here and build it up someday. For now I'll keep the Karate Monkey running and maybe, if I'm lucky, a short travel slalom frame will be in the works.

Bummer, so you rode it once and had to put it up?

ito

02-05-2008, 05:21 PM

Bummer, so you rode it once and had to put it up?

Basically, yes. I sold the I9 wheels as well since I was strapped for cash. The fork wasn't mine and most of the other parts I still had ended up getting donated to a Santa Bike.

MMcG

02-06-2008, 10:19 AM

Whatever happened to that guy who built the Draco frames? Is he still actively building frames?

ito

02-06-2008, 04:28 PM

Whatever happened to that guy who built the Draco frames? Is he still actively building frames?

He was my roommate while I was in New York. He built a few bikes for himself and friends last year, some really sweet DH/slopestyle rigs. He is now working for a company that makes after market parts for Audi. In his spare time I think he is taking over the world.