Specialized SX trail II?? [Archive]

TBC

03-12-2006, 11:17 PM

Hey i am just getting into freeriding and was wondering would a specialized SXT II be a good FR bike.

Will it hold up in FR area some resort mostly local?
Will there be enough travel for the DH area?

I have been riding a trek HT for a couple of months mostly Dj's and 5-6ft drops to trannys so i am proggressing pretty quickly which provokes another question.

Will I out grow this bike quickly?

Thanks
Brad

SXtrailrider

03-12-2006, 11:27 PM

no i don't think so this bike can handle anything and unless you are about to out ride this guy soon which i doubt. this bike will last you a long time especially with the lift time warrenty. peopel hit 10+ drops and huge jumps with thsi bike and it a great pedaler and really likes it's speed on a DH course.

http://www.nsmb.com/images/shore_news/berrecloth/indian.jpg

TBC

03-12-2006, 11:36 PM

Yeah berrecloth's SX is so awsome I saw him in NWD6 but i figured he could break that bike on every run a just pick up a new one for free but as you said others are doing 10+ drops on thiers so this now changes my outlook on that!
Thank you for your help!

Does anybody have and pics of the SXT in action?

SXtrailrider

03-13-2006, 01:38 AM

I try to find some here they are
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82859&d=1134454770
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82860&d=1134454807
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=82861&d=1134454830

This guy isn't me it is another monkey.

TBC

03-13-2006, 03:02 AM

Thanks for the pictures thats the guy from www.leelikesbikes.com
I forgot about seeing those a few months ago but at the time didnt have a clue what bike that was!

PepperJester

03-13-2006, 02:44 PM

I've done many 12+ foot drops on my 06 SX trail. its can and will take it.

Netguy

03-13-2006, 09:36 PM

Im 6'5, 210 and have taken my 2006 SX Trail, off lots of 6-10 foot drops and it will take more. Its an awesome bike. Not the best bike to pedal up hills, however if you wanted to have 1 bike, that does it all, this is the one. A stock Large is about 39lbs. Handles great in the rough, and is an awesome bike to jump. Cant wait to take it to Whistler this year.

WestRider7

03-15-2006, 12:20 PM

I really like the idea of an SX trail, but it is way too expensive. I get deals on Norco's and I can get the Norco six for pretty cheap. It is pretty much the same thing geometry wise and it has specialized suspension, the bike is billed as a trail bike but if I get the complete bike I can always just wait until I break stuff and replace it with burlier parts.

TBC

03-16-2006, 01:54 AM

Hey Sry about the SXT thing ive changed my mind alot of people have told me that i should just buy a more FR oriented HT because of where i live!

PepperJester

03-18-2006, 06:25 AM

wow you must live in a pretty mellow area for a a SX to be over kill.

ctrailfreak

03-20-2006, 07:11 PM

Hey Sry about the SXT thing ive changed my mind alot of people have told me that i should just buy a more FR oriented HT because of where i live!
Why? Will they be riding your bike for you? You should get what you feel is right for you,not what's right for someone else. If you like hardtails then go for it, but I can't stand doing drops on HT's anymore. Goes right to my back and knees. But I'm getting old too! Chris...

greg447

03-20-2006, 07:41 PM

Where do you live dude (im not a stalker or anything) :thumb:

BIGHIT756

04-01-2006, 03:02 PM

Ascentrek

04-01-2006, 04:46 PM

BIGHIT756

04-01-2006, 06:08 PM

i would never even consider santa cruz because they are so dreadful to deal with. when they say it will take 3 weeks....get ready...cuz you're in for a long wait....my order for my SPECIALIZED goes in monday, and my bike will be here..friday. not three weeks...6 weeks....however long they would take. So i dont know, i think specialized is a pretty damn good company.

Dan89

04-01-2006, 08:45 PM

My 2006 SX Trail II comes in on Friday...I cant wait...I've been waiting for a bike that will do it all..and finally, specialized comes out with something awesome!!! Specialized always come through in the end.

nice! i just purchased the frame from a guy in colorado:rofl:
I'm gone all next week due to spring break so..... it should be here in a week and a half or so:love:

roho322

04-04-2006, 12:43 PM

I think we've established at this point that the SXT II is frig'n awesome. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there too. I've had mine for a couple weeks now and it's more than I could have hoped for. I put on a 888 VF2 to help with the dh type riding (and it does!). I also have a P1 for dj and what really surprised me was how well the SXT handles the dj, it jumps almost like a dj bike with big travel (if that makes sense).

Bottom line: DH, Drops, Jumps, and every kind of FR in between is no sweat for this thing. (Not to mention it's just sexy as hell!)

Woolleyfooley

04-04-2006, 06:18 PM

alright this brings about a question i have...how is the sx trail I .. ill be doing fr and downhill nothing huge tho. it would be my first fs freeride bike but i had a rocky mountian switch for a few weeks from a local shop just for a demo sort of thing and i got up to 5 foot drops but with the sx I i dont wanna have to buy a new one when i get better at freeride/dh. so what im asking is how good is the sx trail I?

BIGHIT756

04-04-2006, 09:09 PM

The SX trail 1 is sick as well. The 66 that comes on it is pretty nice, and has some adjustment (internal rebound adjust) and its decent. The rear shock i believe is a Fox DHX 4.0...which only difference is the lack of "bottom out control". Basically everything on the bike is one component set down from the SXT 2. I think the 1 will do just fine. The only thing i would change maybe in the long run would be the wheels. But...I am changing the wheels on my bike also, and i have a 06 SXT 2 arriving friday...so i guess wheels are up to you to change depending on if you think you need to. I say go for it!!! SX Trails for everyone!!!

Also...the SX would be a sweet ass beginner DH/FR bike because it is burly enough to handle it all...yet lighter than a big ass 7-10 inch downhill bike. Being able to throw the SX around a bit will teach you better bike control...and of course, you will learn style!!!

particle bored

04-05-2006, 11:57 AM

while you armchair "freeriders" give us your PinkBike (TM) drop distances (which we all know can be divined accurately by taking the square root of your claimed drop distance),

the truth is that the SX Trail will hold up if you have the skills.

Berrecloth is about 10000% smoother than most of the gomers who pretend at skill.

the original cat asked if he would outgrow the SX Trail...

the answer is, what the hell do you think? how much better than Berrecloth do you expect to get in your amazing progress that will see you doing 45 foot drops in 2 weeks time?

if teenage testosterone-fueled arrogant ignorance were currency, this thread would be worth millions.

unfortunately, the completely hollow poseur nature of the posts here render this thread worthless.

zaphod1

04-05-2006, 03:48 PM

he's not kidding the thing is sweet and even better with the white 888
I think we've established at this point that the SXT II is frig'n awesome. I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in there too. I've had mine for a couple weeks now and it's more than I could have hoped for. I put on a 888 VF2 to help with the dh type riding (and it does!). I also have a P1 for dj and what really surprised me was how well the SXT handles the dj, it jumps almost like a dj bike with big travel (if that makes sense).

Bottom line: DH, Drops, Jumps, and every kind of FR in between is no sweat for this thing. (Not to mention it's just sexy as hell!)

scr1be

04-05-2006, 04:22 PM

sorry for hijacking,

but what do you guys think of the transition dirtbag for all around freeride use?

BIGHIT756

04-06-2006, 11:00 AM

Hey "particle bored" I have the skills to make the SX hold up.:rofl:

Dr. Ill

04-12-2006, 05:06 PM

The SX is the best freeride bke out there. SO SICKKKKKKKKK.

santacruzdher21

04-16-2006, 10:52 PM

Castle

04-20-2006, 12:53 AM

http://boomerbaird.smugmug.com/photos/26927036-M.jpg

BIGHIT756

04-20-2006, 12:57 AM

the stock version is still tough as hell though. no mods are really needed. its a sick bike

preppie

04-24-2006, 07:28 AM

if u wanna know y darren bearcloths bike dont break because he moded it out with 7 iches of travel a new swing arm and some other stuff so it can handle alot of thing and so far hes only gone through 1 of those bike

Darren Berrecloth is sponsord by Manitou, that's why he doesn't use the production version FOX DHX with 9" - 2.75" stroke.
The frame is a standard production frame with a custom color,
NO special tubing or custom swingarm and some other stuff....

Someone has to do the "field-testing" of the frames, that's one of Darrens jobs.

Netguy

04-24-2006, 05:15 PM

if u wanna know y darren bearcloths bike dont break because he moded it out with 7 iches of travel a new swing arm and some other stuff so it can handle alot of thing and so far hes only gone through 1 of those bike

Besides the color, the frame looks exactly the same as my stock one. I dont think the frame specifically is any stronger.

SXtrailrider

04-24-2006, 06:01 PM

I think fox has a contume 9" -3.0" for the SX

preppie

04-25-2006, 08:52 AM

I think fox has a contume 9" -3.0" for the SX

It's on the specialized site :

SX trail 2 and SX trail Frame only : 06 Fox DHX 5.0 Coil, ProPedal damping, bottom out, rebound adjustment, 9.0"x2.75"

SX trail 1 : 06 Fox DHX 4.0 Coil 9.0x2.75", rebound adjust, ProPedal adjust

SXtrailrider

04-25-2006, 09:27 AM

preppie are you sure about that! so if I were to get a 9.0 by 3.0 could the frame take that and would it give me mroe travel.

Sorry im a noob when it comes to suspention.

preppie

04-25-2006, 10:48 AM

...so if I were to get a 9.0 by 3.0 could the frame take that and would it give me mroe travel.

SX with a 2.75" stoke gives 6.6" travel.
SX with a 3.00" stroke (should) give 7.2" tavel.

BUT I can't recommend it, the SX is designed and tested for a 2.75" stroke shock, No idea if it could or would work.

But if you want to try it anyway you need to (triple) check if the link/swingarm/seat or chainstay doesn't hit the frame when bottoming out with a 3" stoke shock.
Test this with a 3" stroke shock without the spring and keep in mind that you need to include the bottom-out rubber.

PepperJester

04-25-2006, 11:34 AM

say if you put a 9.25X3.0 it might have a better chance on fitting with out clearence issues. still its not really somthing that you should be doing with out checking on the warranty issue first.

bikenweed

04-25-2006, 01:15 PM

How many people have broken chainstays?

I see them explode on regular Enduros, and since Specialized has a history of not designing bikes for side impacts (side impact=casing a 360, landing kicked out to the side, jumping into a corner, and the list of bikes not designed for side impacts is pretty long, inlcuding the BMX line, Demos, and Enduros) I'm a little hesitant to look into snagging an SX Trail. BUT if those chainstays are holding up, that bike has some pretty good geometry, and it would make a great light duty DH bike.

PepperJester

04-25-2006, 01:54 PM

I have only seen one of the new style Enduro's with a broken stay and that was off a huge drop, it was not one of the SXTrails either.

my stays are good so far :)

Bicyclist

04-25-2006, 03:41 PM

say if you put a 9.25X3.0 it might have a better chance on fitting with out clearence issues. still its not really somthing that you should be doing with out checking on the warranty issue first.

Um no. The longer stroke would give you a steep HA and a high BB. Plus the clearance issue would be worse if anything.

The problem w/ a 3" stroke on the SXT is the lack of interchangability with other shocks. I.E. good luck finding a compatible shock.

punkassean

04-25-2006, 03:47 PM

The '06 SXT does in fact use a 9.0 x 2.75" shock which is an oddball size. With that said I wouldn't change it because the DHX is a great shock. Just get a Ti spring and call it a day. Any shock you install (other than custom made to size) will alter the PERFECT geometry of the bike. Is 6.7" not enough? I know it is for me. My only compalint would be the lack of air pressure adjustment on the boost chamber, perhaps PUSH could install a schrader valve?

Castle

04-25-2006, 08:09 PM

broken....
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/jgoeller/lynn/img_0241.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/jgoeller/lynn/img_0314.jpg

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150881 taken from here, 04/15/06

looks like he got back on the bike real quick....
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/jgoeller/vietnam/img_0607.jpg

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151389 taken from here, posted 04/19/06

that's a pretty quick turn around, I think two of those days were a sat/sun.

perhaps PUSH could install a schrader valve?

I emailed push about doing this a few weeks ago and never heard back from them, I tried calling a few times as well and was never able to get through.

I have a feeling they would probably be alot more interested in selling you there new upgrade for it instead... http://www.pinkbike.com/news/2006-Sea-Otter-Push-Industries.html

preppie

04-26-2006, 02:47 AM

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b227/jgoeller/lynn/img_0314.jpg

Any idea what exactly happened ?

Did he case, hucked to flat, landed sideways, got stuck between something, does he weighs 250pounds.
The poster said "small drop" but :clue:
The guy is riding with a dual crown, so I guess he goes big ...and aren't most Lynn woods drops to (semi) flat?

I use my SX trial for light DH and 'slopestyle' and it's the first broken SX trail pic I see.
I hope it stays that way.
The Specialized warranty is super, but a broken bike is never a good thing.

PepperJester

04-26-2006, 09:29 AM

Um no. The longer stroke would give you a steep HA and a high BB. Plus the clearance issue would be worse if anything.

The problem w/ a 3" stroke on the SXT is the lack of interchangability with other shocks. I.E. good luck finding a compatible shock.

yes I know abou the head angle and bb issues. my thought was that if some used a 3.0 with out going to a longer e-t-e you would risk hitting the wheel/link on the frame when under compression. If you boost the e-t-e aswell the rim starts farther out and will compress to the same spot as with the stock shock.

Thou I wonder if the coil would hit when extended when using the 9.25?

gmac

04-30-2006, 08:03 AM

I'm not saying I don't want a Trail SX II (I do). Or that Specialized isn't a good company...

I'm defending Santa Cruz. Yes, you wait for the bike. But my Bullit has been bombproof (I've only seen one break it was hella old w/ a huge fork and taking major DH abuse).

My story w/ SCB CS: when I wanted to replace my old 00' front end due to a concern it COULD break (old style frame not approved for >6" DC fork). SCB sold me a new front end for next to nothing. Then they sold me a new rear so it would match. BAM ! a new frame at a ridiculous price. So I can't understand why they have the " difficult to deal w/ " e-reputation. My guess is it is some hater(s) hyperposting nonsense. Never be afraid to buy from them.

Anyway I have about a dozen pics saved to my desktop of the SX II. I will buy one once I find the right deal on a small frame I can swap into. It is so smooth looking. And I can't wait to get my hands on one outside a shop parking lot.

Food for thought: no more SX Trail----> 2007 Demo 6 on the way ? They are 1" away now w/ the Demo 7

Anyone else think this might happen ?

markk

04-30-2006, 12:08 PM

Stop doing big drops to flat landings if you don't want a broken frame.:nopity:

The SX Trail is very strong and should last a long time if you don't ride like a cave man. Find a tranny.

WaveDude

05-06-2006, 09:34 AM

I have only seen one of the new style Enduro's with a broken stay and that was off a huge drop, it was not one of the SXTrails either.

my stays are good so far :)

I've seen in person two broken SX Trails, mine and a friend's. I've also seen pics of 5 or 6 others over on MTBR in the Specialized forum. The '05 Enduro line (which includes the SX Trail) has problems with the left-side chainstay--they all tend to crack or break in that exact spot. I'm a little concerned now because the '06 is supposed to have beefed up stays (my replacement stay is thicker than the orignial) and now I've seen a pic of one of those broken too.

Keep an eye on yours. They ususally start as a hairline crack along the weld on the INSIDE (near the tire) of the stay.

PepperJester

05-06-2006, 10:40 AM

My eyes will be on it.

ragin-sagin

05-07-2006, 04:55 PM

Keep an eye on yours. They ususally start as a hairline crack along the weld on the INSIDE (near the tire) of the stay.
Funny you say that...I have an 05 trail sx that developed a crack in that exact location. It seemed odd to me that the inside of the stay would crack, I would figure the top and bottom surface of the stay are under the most stress.
I just figured it was from one of my harder crashes, perhaps the swingarm getting a big sideload during a tumble. Nonetheless, it took 3 days to get a new part, no questions asked. Two thumbs up for customer service on that one.

preppie

05-08-2006, 10:33 AM

I'm a little concerned now because the '06 is supposed to have beefed up stays (my replacement stay is thicker than the orignial) and now I've seen a pic of one of those broken too.

Are you sure that the 06 SX trail chain/seat stays are beefed up?

The pic of the broken 06 SXT is from a rider that goes big on rough and rocky terrain and is hard on his material.
Also notice the dual crown.

BIGHIT756

05-09-2006, 02:20 AM

the bike really isnt designed for a dual crown fork...but yes..the 06 has beefed up stays...they shouldnt be a problem unless you are a really careless/rough rider

punkassean

05-09-2006, 11:21 AM

the bike really isnt designed for a dual crown fork...but yes..the 06 has beefed up stays...they shouldnt be a problem unless you are a really careless/rough rider

yes it is designed for a dual-crown fork. There is a sticker on the frame that says "accepts dual-crown forks up to 170mm travel".

untitledsince89

05-09-2006, 03:54 PM

yea it can be, made for a dual crown fork, but the sx trail is designed and speced with the 66 which makes more sense.

punkassean

05-12-2006, 11:31 AM

If a frame can handle a dual-crown fork then it can also handle as single-crown fork no problem. The bike has come with both the 66 and the Fox Van but it can handle anything under 170 mm single or dual—period.

Bicyclist

05-14-2006, 12:55 PM

ecbmxer

08-14-2006, 11:29 AM

I'm getting an SX trail I here in a few days and was just reading up on some old threads. You know to increase the rear travel (if you wanted to) you could use the 9.0 eye-to-eye with a 3" stroke and run a 24" rear wheel. It would actually just slack it out just a tad more, maybe better for DH in combination with the travel. I don't think its something I want to do, just a thought. Also, what is the reason why you can't go over 170mm of travel for the fork?

punkassean

08-14-2006, 11:33 AM

The stock 167mm of travel is plenty for most anything as proven by Claw and Strait. If you (not you specifically) want more travel get a Demo 7 or 8. As far as the fork you could probably get away with 180mm but again, why? I run my Enduro with a 160mm fork and switch between 150 and 167mm rear and the bike is perfect for just about everything.

I think people get hung up on travel numbers when the geometry and overall ride matter so much more....

ecbmxer

08-14-2006, 12:33 PM

I think the travel is gonna be fine for me, I was just reading through and figured that was a way to get more travel if one so desired. Do you have an SX I or II? If you have a I, what are your thoughts about the 66F fork? I can't even find it on the Marz website even under the OEM fork section. What all adjustments does it have and do you have any setup tips (such as internal adjustments, oil weight, etc)?Thanks!