Intense Tazer VPP

[sinisteridge]

what have people herd about these bikes? i am trying to decide between a big DH bike and more of a 4x Trail bike. i live a distance from and DH resorts so that is the only limiting factor in me getting one. thanks for the input.

[FBTMILF]

I was looking at getting one also but i haven't had the chance to ride one yet. They seem to be fairly good, but don't quote me on that.

[Duzitall]

My friend has a small. It's too small for me to thrash effectively for testing. He likes it except it's noisy like all Intense (and other) thin aluminum box frames. Looks great.

[Lucky7]

I don't ride the Tazer VPP, but I ride the Tazer FS with the FSR rear end. I use it for tight twisty trail riding and it absolutely rails! I also do some light freeriding, urban and DJs. While it's super easy to flick around and can be maneuvered without much effort, I wouldn't use it for anything that's over, say 8 or so miles of off road work because you simply can't get the seat up high enough for any reasonable leg extension. Just my two cents.

Bryan

[jungle]

I don't ride the Tazer VPP, but I ride the Tazer FS with the FSR rear end. I use it for tight twisty trail riding and it absolutely rails! I also do some light freeriding, urban and DJs. While it's super easy to flick around and can be maneuvered without much effort, I wouldn't use it for anything that's over, say 8 or so miles of off road work because you simply can't get the seat up high enough for any reasonable leg extension. Just my two cents.

Bryan


I had a tazer FS i know what you are saying
because of the huge angle back of the seatpost and the interupted seatost, the higher you get the further back the seat goes
The way i fixed that problem was put in a thomson layback seatpost
but ran it forward (thomson says you can run the laybacks forward or backward)
it fixed the problem up and put the seat in a really nice
riding position for good leg extension

With the Tazer vp it's a uninterupted seatpost at a normal seat post angle (no need for layback seatpost)so you can run a longer seatpost to get it up high enough for good leg extension
My local bike shop has one of ex Kovarik's tazer vp's for sale
running a long seatpost when needed and slide it down for more 4x racing

sweet ride
i don't think you would go wrong as a light trail bike
but it's definitely not a downhiller
even though Kovarik sometimes races his tazer's in some
of the local DH events here, when his downhiller is unavailable
and he still gets a podium

cheers

[Lucky7]

But he also gets a new one for free if he breaks it. That's why he's a pro, but I know what you mean. I feel like my Tazer is like a Mini M1

[Christiaan]

I bought David K's Tazer VP at the end of 2004.

I didn't like it, it felt really unstable in the air, maybe it was the build(Really light).

Anyway, I sold it for a Yeti 4X, which is a better frame, and I am a really big Intense fan.

[AusRottenVirus]

I just ordered mine today. I'll let you what I think about it when I get it built up.

[iridebikes]

I think it would be an ok all around bike. I'm not a big fan of the vpp bikes myself, but there are way too many people on here that will disagree with me on that. It's all personal prefrence/peer pressure. I would say it would be good for 4x racing, however most likely not built for too much dh abuse. I don't know this for a face, so I wouldn't quote me on it, but 4x is all about being light and agile. So I would asume that the frame is fairly light. But I don't know that for a fact so I'm not sure.

[sharkdh]

go for it!
My dream is to build up a Tazer VPP for strictly xc enduro trail riding.
im talking 10 miles with lots of climbs and lots of descents.
it will be the baby brother of my DH bike.
with a jacked seatpost I can make anything work for me and if you got the legs then so can you.

[mandown]

i looked at it for a while. i did not like the geo for a trail bike. for my taste, it was close, but not quite.

i looked at some other 4X bikes. my concern was the travel might be a tad short, or the ST would not let me get full leg extension, or the TT was a bit short, or the HA was a bit steep. i just could not find the right combo. transition's new slopestyle Bottlerocket seems to be just the ticket. now i just gotta wait for July.

[misctwo]

i looked at it for a while. i did not like the geo for a trail bike. for my taste, it was close, but not quite.



i looked at some other 4X bikes. my concern was the travel might be a tad short, or the ST would not let me get full leg extension, or the TT was a bit short, or the HA was a bit steep. i just could not find the right combo. transition's new slopestyle Bottlerocket seems to be just the ticket. now i just gotta wait for July.


i agree with christiaan...TVP def takes getting used to in the air...but it pedals like no other bike i've ever ridden and it's beef. it pedals like a hardtail and opens up on even small hits...4" of VPP feels like more than 4"...

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e183/misctwo/Tazer%20Project/IMG_4457x.jpg

The seat tube allows for 357mm+ seatposts which makes for perfect trailhead riding for me, i've got a 30" inseam.

The geometry is perfect for fast fast flowy singletrack...slack HT, steep ST....it's a blast!

but if i were in the market, it'd be a toss up between the bottlerocket Mandown suggested and that TVP ..but they're coming out in july...:mad:

one big caveat: be prepared to run at MOST 110-120mm up front. any more than that, on extreme turns the weight loading on the front tire will make you wash out...for me it's manageable, i just got a lower rise handlebar and 0deg 40mm stem.

remember, good suspension is more important than more suspension.

[mandown]

misctwo has a good point about desired fork length many 4X bikes have mfg suggestions about going with long travel forks. the bottle rocket looks like it was set up with the 180mm SC Travis in the pics on transition's site. i doubt i would run that set up, but it is nice to know the option is there.

[mandown]

by the way, SICK bike in the pic.

[misctwo]

by the way, SICK bike in the pic.


thanks. it rails. just picked up a RS Pike race uturn for $270 going to install it tonight..but i'll miss the vanilla...