more progress in Iraq [Archive]

BurlyShirley

02-25-2006, 07:58 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/02/24/iraq.security/index.html

I wonder how they are evaluated anyway......
If its anything like they do it in the US, they just bring out a big team of evaluators and have the unit do a bunch of specific tasks like, say, live fire drills or helicopter insertions or little ambushes...you know, basic war stuff. If the unit isnt proficient in enough areas, they get bad marks. Its not an uncommon thing really, but with the news being what it is, you know, they have to make it sound like all hell has broken loose.

jimmydean

02-26-2006, 12:43 AM

But the fact that the ONLY BN in Iraq that was considered to be a level 1 is no longer a level 1 unit, is bad.

It wouldn't be as bad if other units have reached a level 1 status. But the fact that only one has at this point, then did poorly enough to be downgraded, is real bad.

There is no longer something to show the public that progress is being made for the troops being trained.

Changleen

02-26-2006, 01:04 AM

More progress:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article347806.ece

...three-quarters of the corpses stacked in the city's mortuary show evidence of gunshot wounds to the head or injuries caused by drill-bits or burning cigarettes. Much of the killing, he said, was carried out by Shia Muslim groups under the control of the Ministry of the Interior...

...figures show that last July the morgue alone received 1,100 bodies, about 900 of which bore evidence of torture or summary execution. The pattern prevailed throughout the year until December, when the number dropped to 780 bodies, about 400 of which had gunshot or torture wounds...

Baghdad alone 1000 deaths a month. 3/4s tortured to death or executed. Nice.

Transcend

02-26-2006, 01:32 AM

DaveW

02-26-2006, 01:39 AM

More progress:

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article347806.ece

Baghdad alone 1000 deaths a month. 3/4s tortured to death or executed. Nice.

Sorry they got rid of Saddam cos he was?...... :clue:

Transcend

02-26-2006, 01:44 AM

Sorry they got rid of Saddam cos he was?...... :clue:

Saddam was bad, but these new thugs are no better. These guys simply have US backing (for now). Anyone see a never ending cycle here?

Mujahedeen, Saddam etc etc?

DaveW

02-26-2006, 01:55 AM

Yep they love em even though they pull that sh*t.... Untill the naughty puppet stops answering the pulling of the strings then it's Gulf war number??? :nopity:

Transcend

02-26-2006, 01:59 AM

I don't blame the pupets though. You don't bite the hand that feeds you until you have no more need for it...then all bets are off.

particle bored

02-26-2006, 07:47 PM

I think I remember reading that the US puppet Gov't that had been installed was up to Saddaam's old tricks again. I guess they figure they need to stop the insurgency and this is the only way they are used to getting info?

please explain how Iraqi nationals defending their homeland from US military goon squads is "insurgency"

thank you

particle bored

02-26-2006, 07:49 PM

Saddam was bad, but these new thugs are no better. These guys simply have US backing (for now). Anyone see a never ending cycle here?

Mujahedeen, Saddam etc etc?

the never ending cycle is UK/US imperialist control over the Middle East, bartered via port deals given in exchange for lots of access to petroleum, etc.

time to rub the sleep out of your eyes and stop blaming the victim.

BurlyShirley

02-26-2006, 08:37 PM

the never ending cycle is UK/US imperialist control over the Middle East, bartered via port deals given in exchange for lots of access to petroleum, etc.

time to rub the sleep out of your eyes and stop blaming the victim.
What access do we have now that we didnt have before? If we wanted to buy Iraqi oil, we could have. Now we still must purchase it.
While I buy that alot of this is "oil" motivated, its not as cut and dry as you'd like to believe.

Transcend

02-26-2006, 09:01 PM

please explain how Iraqi nationals defending their homeland from US military goon squads is "insurgency"

thank you

In case you need a little reminder or some basic education:

in·sur·gen·cy P Pronunciation Key (n-sûrjn-s)
n. pl. in·sur·gen·cies
The quality or circumstance of being rebellious.
An instance of rebellion; an insurgence.

Main Entry: in·sur·gen·cy
Pronunciation: in-'s&r-j&n-sE
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -cies
: the quality or state of being insurgent; specifically : a condition of revolt against a recognized government that does not reach the proportions of an organized revolutionary government and is not recognized as belligerency

They have a legitimate, elected government. They are rebelling.

This is an insurgency, please shut up unless you are actually capable of holding a proper discussion.

Christ, I thought Burley was bad.

Transcend

02-26-2006, 09:02 PM

the never ending cycle is UK/US imperialist control over the Middle East, bartered via port deals given in exchange for lots of access to petroleum, etc.

time to rub the sleep out of your eyes and stop blaming the victim.
AHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHA

Please read this entire thread again, before you start posting. The post you responded to may be a good start. :rolleyes:

edit: Your posts don't even make any sense, they are simply regurgitated, anti-establishment, anti-government peacenik mumbo jumbo.

particle bored

02-27-2006, 08:49 AM

What access do we have now that we didnt have before? If we wanted to buy Iraqi oil, we could have. Now we still must purchase it.
While I buy that alot of this is "oil" motivated, its not as cut and dry as you'd like to believe.

oh my.

you actually believe what Bush & Cheney tell you.

I'm sorry.

particle bored

02-27-2006, 08:50 AM

AHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHA

Please read this entire thread again, before you start posting. The post you responded to may be a good start. :rolleyes:

edit: Your posts don't even make any sense, they are simply regurgitated, anti-establishment, anti-government peacenik mumbo jumbo.

when book and reader collide, and reader finds book lacking, it's usually NOT the book's fault.

-Friedrich Nietzsche

so, being a moderator of a DH MTB website gives you amazing analytic insight that I don't possess, even though I have lived in politics most of my life.

yeah, you're one funny dude Transcend. you and Burley Kuntwipe.

BurlyShirley

02-27-2006, 08:51 AM

oh my.

you actually believe what Bush & Cheney tell you.

I'm sorry.
Bwaaaahahhaah!
Only because I am not protected by your tinfoil hat.
Honestly, I dont trust any politicians, but you do realize that oil prices from the middle east are the same no matter where we get the oil from, right? OPEC mean anything to you? Its not any cheaper to get it from Iraq.

Transcend

02-27-2006, 08:58 AM

when book and reader collide, and reader finds book lacking, it's usually NOT the book's fault.

-Friedrich Nietzsche

so, being a moderator of a DH MTB website gives you amazing analytic insight that I don't possess, even though I have lived in politics most of my life.

yeah, you're one funny dude Transcend. you and Burley Kuntwipe.

Actually, my extensive political education and journalistic background do, nitwit. If by "living in politics" and "being a lawyer" you mean asking for handouts near the courthouse, then I'd believe you. Otherwise, you are nothing more then a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist who needs to go away.

valve bouncer

02-27-2006, 09:26 AM

Transcend

02-27-2006, 09:33 AM

Settle down mate, you'll get your arse canned from here if you don't pull your head in.

His head is already firmly "in", it appears. :rolleyes:

fluff

02-27-2006, 09:36 AM

Settle down mate, you'll get your arse canned from here if you don't pull your head in.
Shouldn't you be awarding him points for creative use of your favourite word?

particle bored

02-27-2006, 09:43 AM

Actually, my extensive political education and journalistic background do, nitwit. If by "living in politics" and "being a lawyer" you mean asking for handouts near the courthouse, then I'd believe you. Otherwise, you are nothing more then a tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorist who needs to go away.

being a 3d rate DH scribe is neither political education nor journalism. it's fan droolery, plain & simple.

"handouts at the courthouse"? your ignorance of the world of lawyering is quite impressively huge!

particle bored

02-27-2006, 09:44 AM

His head is already firmly "in", it appears. :rolleyes:

your staunch refusal to question your BELIEFS (not facts, as you don't mind them much) shows what a great mind you have (or haven't).

you really hate being that 3d rate DH hack scribe, riding Jones & Rose's coattails, don't you?

Transcend

02-27-2006, 09:44 AM

being a 3d rate DH scribe is neither political education nor journalism. it's fan droolery, plain & simple.

"handouts at the courthouse"? your ignorance of the world of lawyering is quite impressively huge!

Sure thing, buttercup. You obviously know EVERYTHING about me.

Nice try with the ninja edit btw.

valve bouncer

02-27-2006, 09:45 AM

Shouldn't you be awarding him points for creative use of your favourite word?
Burly Surly to Girly Shirley is creative, Burley Kuntwipe is pretty stupid especially when that word isn't even censored. Oh well on with the show. Best day on the PD forum for yonks.:rofl:

particle bored

02-27-2006, 10:10 AM

Sure thing, buttercup. You obviously know EVERYTHING about me.

Nice try with the ninja edit btw.

I don't know ANYthing about you beyond your posts and your somewhat third-string DH wannabe scribing that can't even come close to what happens at Dirt magazine or Alex Rankin's vids. while such DH reporting probably is valuable I wonder about its accuracy given the inaccuracy you ply in here.

"ninja edit"? WTF is that? are you saying that if I have a thought after the first post, any supplement is "sneaky" or "ninja"?

man, you call ME paranoid? sheesh.

particle bored

02-27-2006, 10:11 AM

Burly Surly to Girly Shirley is creative, Burley Kuntwipe is pretty stupid especially when that word isn't even censored. Oh well on with the show. Best day on the PD forum for yonks.:rofl:

"creative" is what I'm not after. "ridiculous pseudo-comic juvenilia insult" is more what I was seeking. trying to keep pace with Shirley herself.