Nomad Freeride...

[seattlechronic]

I have a few months on my nomad now and really enjoy the ride! I have built it up pretty solid now. Any thoughts?

http://www.pbase.com/chefhutton/image/55903833.jpg

Eric

[Tattooo]

How do you like the dee max wheels on that? I was debating running the same one mine.

[seattlechronic]

I havent got to test them out to much yet...I will update later.

ERic

[hooples3]

bike looks pretty hot

[tlproject7]

sick bike, cept the stem is a little long for me, but still very sick

[Duzitall]

Looks good. Stems longer than what I prefer also. How do you like that air shock?

[Kanter]

Keep your fingures crossed. Every DHX air through our LBS has been sent back to Fox for new seals.

[narlus]

not the aesthetics i'd go for, but hey it's not my bike.

[seattlechronic]

Keep your fingures crossed. Every DHX air through our LBS has been sent back to Fox for new seals.

For The shock getting stuck down?

E

[Kanter]

For The shock getting stuck down?

E


YEP.... Stuck down. I dont trust air. The DHX coil with a Ti spring is super light.

[gmac]

Sick bike.

{Couldn't agree w/ the air thing more.}

[Radarr]

It needs a Super Monster.

Wanna trade for a VP-Free? :D:D:D

[maxyedor]

I'm sorry

[seattlechronic]

I'm sorry

for what???

[Monkeybidnezz]

Congrats, I'm not a fan of the hump on the Nomad but the bike does look sharp. I noticed it also does look better in person than in pics from my experience.

[spacemanspiff06]

hot bike, but whats with set-back seatpost and long stem? you shoppin at the big n' tall bike shop?
to ease your mind, all the the DHX airs that we've gotten at our shop (all 2 of em.) have been fine so far.
damn hot bike...

[stubby]

weight?

[greg447]

That bike looks like a hybrid, like a xc bike with some freeride spirit, sweet set up man.

[kinghami3]

YEP.... Stuck down. I dont trust air. The DHX coil with a Ti spring is super light.
A guy I was riding with had that happen right before the decent. No fun, but I'm interested to see how next year's turn out.

Oh yeah, I definitely like the look of the bike.

[seattlechronic]

Thanks guys..Comes in at 35lbs.. AS far as the seatpost it's what I had from my old bike and the stem is a 90mm. I like the roomy cockpit. Feels perfect to me.

ERic

[bikerpunk98199]

how does it jump? and handle tech. stuff? where do you usually ride i live in kirkland?

kris

[Sir_Crackien]

you guy say don't trust air shocks. well that is kinda wrong the fox air shock are aobut the only air shock that i know have problem these days. the manituo and rockshoxs one have proven their worth over and over agian even in FR situations. i think is kinda rediculous for the stuck down problem to be happening.

btw i have been riding air fork/shock for over 6 year and only one air system ever gave my problem (a king pin). also i'm not easy on my parts either because of my riding style and because of my 250 lbs of heft.

air products that i have been on are:
1gen and 2gen psylo races
minute 3:00 (saw xc/fr)
reba race (seeing xc and fr as we speak)
going to get a pike air team soon (for tire clearance and strenght)
sid air rear shock (yes it saw FR stuff)
fox air rear shock (never saw fr)
mantuo 4 way air (saw everything but DH)
currently on a rockshox MC3 (going to see xc,dj,dh)

air assit
marz dj 2 (saw dj,fr)
marz z150 (saw dj,park,fr,dh)
manituo kingpin (that fork was crappy)

point being just because its air doesnt mean its going to fail. infact i have had more coil forks and shock fail on my.

[Kanter]

I was the one that said, "I dont trust air." I hate the way it feels and I hate when it fails. If a coil shock or fork blows, you can usually ride it. If a air shock or fork blows, you are screwed.

A Fox DHX air and a DHX coil with a Ti spring weigh about the same. Why would someone even bother with the air version? I just dont get it. With something as small as a shock the weight difference is small. In a fork the weight difference actually adds up.

[Sir_Crackien]

ok you have a liget reason for not liking air (the way it feels) most people have a hatred for it that is not justifiable. i personnally like the feel of air (just a pereferance difference i know). also the air verson will still weight a fair amount less than the dhx w/ti. the air chamber weight about nothing. but i agree in a fork air make an even bigger saving (just look at the boxxers).

oh btw 2 of the time i have had a coil fork/shock fail it was the spring (defective)

not trying to argue with this post just trying to make some valid points. to each his/her own if he/she has a valid argument.

man we need more women in this sport!

oh btw kanter i love your fly's :thumb:

[Kanter]

oh btw kanter i love your fly's :thumb:

Red one broke and now I run the orange Fly.

My Avy weighs as much as 3 DHX airs.

[Sir_Crackien]

yeah i remember you posting on the 02.5 breaking and that is a bummer but the 06's are so damn nice. the fly have always been one of those bikes i always wanted but have never had the money or need. so i now ride a transiton preston fr, love the little bugger seeing that it rides nice and tight but still some how retains a long wheel base.

[maxyedor]

Sir Crackien the issue with air as I see it is the rubber compound Fox used in the seals of the DHX freezes and cracks at low temps. It is the only shock with that problem and it only happens in the cold.

[Cuprinol]

Very nice indeed, but I do have a question. Whats your riding style? Why those heavy wheels and cranks? Don´t now how strong that frame is, but wouldn´t a pair of... Rhyno Lite XL´s and a pair of all mountain cranks be better suited and make for a snappier ride without sacrificing too much strength?

Just a thought, I still think your bike is wicked.

[seattlechronic]

Well I Like to ride HArd. I tacoed my CrossMAx Xl's Front wheel on a
7-8foot Drop. Mavic Said There not made for that. So I got a really good deal on the Deemax wheels. I love the Saint Cranks..Super Stiff! I have a Specialized Stunpjumper 120 with full XTR for Cross Country and Thought I would Build the Nomad for Freeride (Jumping, Drops and Overall Bombing). I can still hang with my Cross Country buddies but when it comes to the Downhill side of things I leave them in the Dust! By the way it loves the Jumps and Flys like a bird...

[session77]

very nice bike man, love everything but the fender.

[seattlechronic]

very nice bike man, love everything but the fender.
Keeps the Horse **** and Mud out of my Face... When things dry out it comes off...

E

[Secret Squirrel]

Keeps the Horse **** and Mud out of my Face... When things dry out it comes off...

E
Looks very Moto!! I luv it.

What size is that bad boy?? And how tall are you? Reason I ask is cause I'm looking at replacing my stolen rigs and that frame is definitely an option....Just wondering, thanks!

BRRrrrrraaaaaappppP!

[Inkhell]

I'm 6' and just picked up a medium Nomad. Seems to fit great. Similar geometry to my old 18" Stinky D and med Foes Fly. I'm running a 170mm 66rc2x so the head angle is a little slacker than stock but it fit's great. Not much riding yet here in Minnesota but the DHX air seems to be holding up. Even raced a dh race on snow with no issues. Got a used 5th to try on it just in case. I'm 230lbs and not smooth so I don't have a ton of faith in the air shock.

[Tonycalves]

Love the Nomads, I have top tube issues with these bikes too tho. hate long stems and hate short TT. The telescopic seatpost is a great addition. And there's nothing wrong with fenders.

[Ascentrek]

I'm 6' and just picked up a medium Nomad. Seems to fit great. Similar geometry to my old 18" Stinky D and med Foes Fly. I'm running a 170mm 66rc2x so the head angle is a little slacker than stock but it fit's great. Not much riding yet here in Minnesota but the DHX air seems to be holding up. Even raced a dh race on snow with no issues. Got a used 5th to try on it just in case. I'm 230lbs and not smooth so I don't have a ton of faith in the air shock.

Inkhell.... I need your help!

I just bought a Nomad, minus the front shock (I'm running an older z.1 for the time being). I noted the first problem was the low BB clearance (Prolly from the z.1).

Could you measure the BB height? I'm thinking of going with the 66rc2x myself and want to find out what that will do to the BB height.

Thanks!

[Ascentrek]

Has anyone tried out a 888rc on this rig yet? I'm going to give it a shot (since I have one on a bullit). I would like to ultimately go with the 66, but I'm torn.

Would you go with the 66rc2x or the Fox 36? I will be hitting more backcountry rides with this rig, but want the ability to take some hits (porcupine rim, Amasa back, etc). I love the feel of the 888, and figure the 66 will feel similar.

Your opinions are crucial monkeys!

[Inkhell]

Inkhell.... I need your help!

I just bought a Nomad, minus the front shock (I'm running an older z.1 for the time being). I noted the first problem was the low BB clearance (Prolly from the z.1).

Could you measure the BB height? I'm thinking of going with the 66rc2x myself and want to find out what that will do to the BB height.

Thanks!


With the 66 and 2.5" dh tires, the bb measures 14.5" from ground to center. The 170mm '06 66 is about 22" from center to the top of the crown.

I chose the 66 over the Fox just to make it a bit more aggressive. I had an '06 Van R on my Heckler and it was super smooth right out of the box. Being a DC convert, it didn't give me the same confidence as a my old Super T. It felt more like a big, smooth XC fork.

I was a bit dissapointed in the 66 at first but it seems to be smoothing out. It had a ton of stiction and you could feel the stick/slip while it compressed. I don't have many rides on it yet due to the weather but I think it wil continue to get better and feel great after a few hard summer rides. Fingers are crossed.

Only issue I've noticed is the front der hits the pivot on drive side during the last half inch of stroke on the shock. Anyone else notice this. It's a XT front der. Only happens in the small ring. Anyone else notice this?

[Renegade]

I will be hitting more backcountry rides with this rig, but want the ability to take some hits (porcupine rim, Amasa back, etc). I love the feel of the 888, and figure the 66 will feel similar.

Your opinions are crucial monkeys!
Ascentrek, you might also consider a 66SL. I picked one up in early January, and I'm liking it alot. All the stiffness of a 66 with the weight of a Z1 [5 1/2 pounds], and the ability to adjust the travel, even below the stated 150mm. It feels like a coil sprung fork.

[Ascentrek]

Ascentrek, you might also consider a 66SL. I picked one up in early January, and I'm liking it alot. All the stiffness of a 66 with the weight of a Z1 [5 1/2 pounds], and the ability to adjust the travel, even below the stated 150mm. It feels like a coil sprung fork.

Renegade,
Can we hook up for a ride sometime? Perhaps a White ranch gig? I'd like to check out the 66sl... sound just about perfect.

Do they make the 66SL in a 170mm version?

[Renegade]

Renegade,
Can we hook up for a ride sometime? Perhaps a White ranch gig? I'd like to check out the 66sl... sound just about perfect.

Do they make the 66SL in a 170mm version?
Is white ranch rideable right now? I believe that I have a few hours to myself so to speak saturday morning. [The wife is going for a road ride]. The SL is a 170mm fork. The different travel settings are achieved by increasing the air pressure in the negative air chamber. As I said, allthough Marzocchi says it's a 170-150mm fork, you can bring it down to 130mm if you want to. Here are a couple pics with the fork set at 150mm. Allthough I don't have a lot of hours in on the fork, I feel that it is at least as stiff as my super T.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Renegade1/MVC-114X.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Renegade1/MVC-111X.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Renegade1/MVC-112X.jpg

My apologies for hijacking this thread.

[Kanter]

How do you like the gravity dropper?

[Renegade]

How do you like the gravity dropper?
I love it, I can't imagine riding without one. I bought the three inch model in 2004 when I still had an ASX, then transfered it to the RFX. In '05 I changed over to the four inch model, and I just recently added another detent position to the four inch post. For trail riding with varying terrain, it just rocks. It's been very dependable, I just grease it twice a year. For anyone who may be considering one, the remote operated version is the way to go, IMO.

[tlproject7]

inkhell, do u have the rc2x, if so, i guarentee the stickyness will go away. with several big hits

[Inkhell]

Yeah. It's the RC2X. Good to know it will smooth out.

[Ascentrek]

Renegade,
I'm headed to WR in a few minutes (12:30pm, Saturday).

I put my 888RC on the Nomad for comparison differences. its a 200mm fork, but it does have some soft springs. This should be interesting none-the-less. I'll post pics later.

the BB height with the 888RC is 15.25 inches. We'll see how she climbs.

[Ascentrek]

Yeah. It's the RC2X. Good to know it will smooth out.

Ink,
I travel to the twin cities quite a bit, plan on being there a lot in the summer. We'll have to hook up and do some rides up north around Duluth.

A

[Ascentrek]

Well, the 888 did awesome on the Nomad. It was a tad tall, but the bike was much better in the lines of handling. I think the 66 170mm would be the way to go.

[Inkhell]

Ink,
I travel to the twin cities quite a bit, plan on being there a lot in the summer. We'll have to hook up and do some rides up north around Duluth.

A


Sure...drop me a note. Spirit Mtn by Duluth has some great riding.

I tuffed out the cold and rode the Nomad on a local trail yesterday. Homemade studded Michy Comp 16 & 24. They weigh about 5 pounds a piece but hook up well on ice. Anyway, the Nomad with the 170mm 66 seems to pedal better and feels quicker than my Heckler with a 36 Van on it. Hard to get a good feel due to the hardpacked snow and ice but a good first impression. Geometry feels very similar to my '04 Foes Fly but much lighter and more trailable.

[Netguy]

Well, the 888 did awesome on the Nomad. It was a tad tall, but the bike was much better in the lines of handling. I think the 66 170mm would be the way to go.

You put a 200mm 888 on your Nomad? Watch you dont snap your headtube off. Especially if its the taller 04/05 model.

On many light duty freeride bikes, 170mm is the max you should go, however maybe the Nomad is different. I know on my SX Trail, it comes with a sticker on it, mentioning not to put a fork taller than 170mm on it.

Just my .02

[Renegade]

Renegade,
I'm headed to WR in a few minutes (12:30pm, Saturday).


Ascentrek, sorry that we didn't hook up this weekend. I had hoped to hear from you before the end of friday; I cut myself off from the internet on weekends. I ended up going to hall ranch as it was closer to my wifes roadie activities that day, we came into town together.

[Ascentrek]

You put a 200mm 888 on your Nomad? Watch you dont snap your headtube off. Especially if its the taller 04/05 model.

On many light duty freeride bikes, 170mm is the max you should go, however maybe the Nomad is different. I know on my SX Trail, it comes with a sticker on it, mentioning not to put a fork taller than 170mm on it.

Just my .02

I don't think it will hurt at all. The big problem is total axle to crown length, and we know that a last year 66RC is taller than an 8 inch travel fox...

I'm not out doing massive hucks with it, just checking it out. Honestly, from a physics point of view, the Double-crown would be stronger for the system anyway. Besides, the Nomad's Headtube is probably stronger than my Bullit's.

my .03 (inflation)