It begins... (home audio thread)

[binary visions]

Like a message from God Himself, I was browsing through speakers the other day, with my eye on a set of Polk Audio R30s. I visited Outpost.com, and the speakers were $58.00 apiece.

I bookmarked the link, thinking I'd order when I was ready. Clicking through to another part of the site, I went back to glance at the speaker page again. What's this? $41? Second lowest price ever recorded for these speakers.

How could I resist?

Obviously, I couldn't.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05941.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05944.jpg

These speakers are generally regarded as an unbelievable value. I've exhaustively researched a lot of speaker sets and there's nothing else that even touches these in terms of positive reviews vs. dollar value. I love my Polks in my car, hope these work out as well. I figure they can be migrated to rear surrounds if I decide to buy something better.

Next on the agenda: a Yamaha RX-V657 receiver, and a new USB soundcard for the laptop. Soon, my precious, soon...

I will be updating this thread as I progress with my system.

[binary visions]

Today the speaker wire arrived:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05946.jpg

I went with 12 gauge even though my runs will be short. It wasn't significantly more expensive than 16 gauge and it'll go in the closet in case I need to do long runs for surround speakers or something.

Also got an optical cable for the USB sound card, which I haven't ordered yet. I figure, worst case (if I don't get the sound card I'm planning on getting) it'll go into the back of my PS2 if I don't sell it:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05947.jpg

We're getting there :D

[narlus]

my squeezebox has both digital out (optical) and analog out (typical RCA jack). i can't tell the difference between AB testing, personally (my receiver can take both inputs).

[binary visions]

my squeezebox has both digital out (optical) and analog out (typical RCA jack). i can't tell the difference between AB testing, personally (my receiver can take both inputs).
Yep, but the soundcard I'm looking at only does digital out unless you use a splitter on the headphone jack. The cable wasn't that expensive - accessories4less.com has some pretty good deals on cables.

I could have gone with a digital coax cable, but there's only a few dollar difference between good quality digital coax and the optical cable I bought, and frankly, I've been a geek for long enough that there's no way I could have lived with myself if I didn't get a fiber optic cable. Fiber optics are pretty cool :thumb:

[Ciaran]

What sound card are you looking at?

[binary visions]

What sound card are you looking at?
M-Audio Transit.

http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/Transit-main.html

Compact, (relatively) inexpensive, and will provide high quality audio output. I'm not interested in any kind of recording or any gaming features, so this seems like the perfect simple device. Most higher end cards do not provide better audio playback, but instead mostly provide more gaming features or recording feautures.

There's a significant amount of people who believe that internal sound cards do not provide optimal sound quality due to the electrical interference of being inside the computer case. That's a moot point for me since it's going to be used on a laptop but I know you said you were building an audio station.

[Ciaran]

Nice. M-Audio makes some nice stuff. I am looking at a couple of their sound cards for my recording rig.

The more serious high end cards ($$$) have their DA/AD converters shielded, and/or use a break out box.

For me my two main concerns are getting a high quality, clean signal from mic into the PC and a clean quality signal from the PC to my mixing board.

[binary visions]

I'm dying to get this hooked up.

Narlus/Ciaran/anyone else: What do you use for connectors to your receiver & speakers? Bare wire or do you use plugs?

The wire came with gold plated "compression pins" but I've never used 'em before and haven't looked to see how they even work. Always did bare wire connections previously. Are they just screw on deals or do they have some kind of clamping interface? Or neither?

[Mackie]

I went back to glance at the speaker page again. What's this? $41? Second lowest price ever recorded for these speakers.
Hey, those are nice speakers at a great price. Could you give me link to the page? Can't find them on the site.
Thanks.

[binary visions]

Hey, those are nice speakers at a great price. Could you give me link to the page? Can't find them on the site.
Thanks.
The reason you can't find the link is because it doesn't exist anymore. I just checked my bookmark and did a search - Outpost apparently no longer carries them. Must have been why they went on sale - blowing out inventory.

Sorry. I heard Polk was discontinuing them.

[narlus]

Narlus/Ciaran/anyone else: What do you use for connectors to your receiver & speakers? Bare wire or do you use plugs?

for my 'nice' stereo, i had banana plugs installed on the cables, mainly because both the speakers and amp had the corresponding female fittings and it was super easy.

for my surround-sound HT system, it's bare wire (14 or 12g), twisted into the receivera and speaker nuts.

[binary visions]

for my 'nice' stereo, i had banana plugs installed on the cables, mainly because both the speakers and amp had the corresponding female fittings and it was super easy.

Had them installed? Like, professionally? I assume they did a soldering job on them?

[Mackie]

The reason you can't find the link is because it doesn't exist anymore. I just checked my bookmark and did a search - Outpost apparently no longer carries them. Must have been why they went on sale - blowing out inventory.

Sorry. I heard Polk was discontinuing them.

Thanks anyway!

[binary visions]

Home for lunch, got out the wire and the compression pins to see how they work. Nice: simple and effective.

The pins unscrew into two pieces:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05954.jpg

The wire is then inserted through the bottom piece, and the end is frayed and pushed back against the flat part of the bottom section. Screw the cap on, and bingo, you've got a connection.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05957.jpg

[Pau11y]

BV, high end speaker wires tend to fall into the "oxygen free" realm. I was thinking about this a while back and I think a soldering job and shrink tubed to the point of contact might help extend the oxygen free status a bit longer. I have some older 10g monster calbe and they're starting to turn color just inside the plastic (the rest of the wire looks ok, minus the first inch or two where the bare wire exits the plastic). Just $0.02 worth for your $60.00 cable.

[binary visions]

BV, high end speaker wires tend to fall into the "oxygen free" realm. I was thinking about this a while back and I think a soldering job and shrink tubed to the point of contact might help extend the oxygen free status a bit longer.
Hm. Seems to me that soldering would be unnecessary when a simple wrapping in tape or a careful application of a little silicone caulk would keep everything airtight... wouldn't it?

Just $0.02 worth for your $60.00 cable.
$60 cable? I think I paid $12 for 30ft of it, and that included the compression pins :p ;)

Thanks for the thoughts. Maybe I'll take a fine bead of silicone caulk and dab it around the bottom of the connector and the side. Or possibly some shrink-tubing if I still have some left over. I'm sure this is a little nit-picky for my $82 speaker set, but it certainly won't hurt anything and will probably provide a little more longevity for the wires - keep 'em from corroding as quickly.

[Ciaran]

1/4" balanced TRS or XLR connectors go from the mixing board to the active monitors.

Depending on the power amp and the passive monitors it could be 1/4" balanced or unbalanced, XLR, RCA, or bare wire/screw/push port connectors.

I have never really delved into high end home audio and I don't know what the industry standard connectors are for home equipment. Being in an apartment I don't have much need for big speakers or amps. The only high end stuff I have ever worked with has been studio or sound reinforcement stuff.

Here's a handy tutorial about cables and connectors. Mostly to do with pro audio but there's some really good info. http://www.tweakheadz.com/all_about_cables.htm

[binary visions]

I wonder if it would be irresponsible to buy one of these (http://www.harmankardon.com/product_detail.aspx?Region=USA&Country=US&Language=ENG&cat=REC&prod=DPR%202005&sType=C) for roughly 2x what I was planning on spending for the receiver?

:drool:

Yes, yes it would be. Irresponsible and completely unnecessary.

Must...be...good...

[binary visions]

Okay, so I went with a Panasonic SA-XR55 digital receiver. Reviews are extremely positive, especially for the price point, and it was $150 less than the Yamaha RX-V657 that I was looking at.

I ordered that, plus the M-Audio Transit, plus a 10ft. USB 2.0 cable, and including shipping, it totaled out to $30 less than the cost of the Yamaha alone. I purchased everything from J&R Music World, and they have a really great 30 day return policy if I decide the receiver isn't right for me.

More pictures and updates to come...

[-dustin]

i was looking at speaker cable not too long ago. i couldn't believe how much that stuff can cost (i had never looked at it before).

[binary visions]

i was looking at speaker cable not too long ago. i couldn't believe how much that stuff can cost (i had never looked at it before).
General consensus is don't bother with real high end speaker cable. Go with thick, good quality cable at a reasonable price. From what I can determine, $0.50-1.00 per foot is all anyone with anything less than a $10,000 system should be paying.

[-dustin]

yeah...i believe i got the same stuff as you.

[Brian HCM#1]

my squeezebox has both digital out (optical) and analog out (typical RCA jack). i can't tell the difference between AB testing, personally (my receiver can take both inputs).With good speakers and a WELL recorded CD you should be able to hear a difference.

[Pau11y]

BV, I found your amp/receiver
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/119865/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do#tabs

Doh! Nevermind, didn't read you had already ordered one.

[binary visions]

BV, I found your amp/receiver
http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/119865/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do#tabs

Doh! Nevermind, didn't read you had already ordered one.
Got speakers, too :D

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't really want a 7 channel setup right now. I'm going for a good stereo setup to supply some 'tunes in the living room, and I'll upgrade the pieces as I find the money.

I doubt I'll go to a 7.1 setup anytime soon - more likely that I'll invest in a really nice set of stereo speakers first, and put these other two in the closet until I can afford a 'woofer and a center channel.

[Kornphlake]

Hm. Seems to me that soldering would be unnecessary when a simple wrapping in tape or a careful application of a little silicone caulk would keep everything airtight... wouldn't it?


$60 cable? I think I paid $12 for 30ft of it, and that included the compression pins :p ;)

Thanks for the thoughts. Maybe I'll take a fine bead of silicone caulk and dab it around the bottom of the connector and the side. Or possibly some shrink-tubing if I still have some left over. I'm sure this is a little nit-picky for my $82 speaker set, but it certainly won't hurt anything and will probably provide a little more longevity for the wires - keep 'em from corroding as quickly.

I'm not sure soldering would give you any better resistance to oxygen contamination but soldering will definately give you a lower resistance connection. I'm not sure it's really necessary though. Instead of sealing with silicone caulk I'd get some dielectric grease from an autoparts store (the little packet you buy when you replace your spark plugs or wires should be more than enough for .99 cents,) smear some of that on the wires then poke the wire down into your connector and clamp it down. The silicone grease was designed for that purpose, caulk is for windows and aquariums.

[binary visions]

The silicone grease was designed for that purpose, caulk is for windows and aquariums.
I wasn't going to caulk the wires. I was actually considering a little dielectric grease in there to improve the connection but I was just talking about caulking the one place where oxygen will get in - a thin bead around the bottom of the compression pin will seal that space around the wire housing.

Just something to fuss with when I'm bored some day :D

[binary visions]

I'm such an impatient bastard.

Hurry up, dammit. :mumble:

Status: In Transit -
On Time

Scheduled Delivery: 02/14/2006
Service Type: GROUND
Weight: 16.70 Lbs

Package Progress:

LAUREL, MD, US 02/13/2006 11:48 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
SADDLE BROOK, NJ, US 02/11/2006 1:10 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
SADDLE BROOK, NJ, US 02/11/2006 12:52 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
MASPETH, NY, US 02/11/2006 12:03 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
MASPETH, NY, US 02/10/2006 8:01 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 02/10/2006 6:09 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED

[binary visions]

Okay... Got the package last week, set it up mostly on Friday.

First off, the binding posts on the Panasonic were not 5-way binding posts. Thus, the pins that came with the speaker wire would not work. Headed over to Circuit City and picked up some banana plugs instead. Monster Cable brand, which is extremely overpriced, I know, but these are actually pretty high quality little deals. Very well made, I was pretty impressed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05958.jpg

I also took the pins on the other end and used some self-amalgamating rubber tape to seal everything up and also to help protect against the pins accidentally contacting each other. That tape has got to be the second most useful stuff on the planet (after duct tape). I've used it for at least two dozen purposes.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05961.jpg

...and the finished wires:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05962.jpg

More to come later or possibly tomorrow if things get busy.

[binary visions]

I have the M-Audio Transit hooked up via the optical cable, and it's tucked away in the TV stand, out of sight.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05967.jpg

The M-Audio unit came with a 10' USB cord! I've never heard of such a thing. Many USB devices don't come with a cable at all, and I knew I'd need a long one for this application so I purchased a seperate 10' cord. Guess I don't need it.

[binary visions]

Here's the receiver. I was shocked at how small it is - the digital processors really cut down on the size.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05976.jpg

If you look closer at the face panel, you'll see that it's receiving a digital signal:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05976_crop.jpg

I've read up on this receiver extensively and the general consensus is that it works much better with a digital signal (since it's a digital receiver) than an analogue one. Going with the M-Audio device seems like it was a good choice here.

I've been listening to some music and my early impressions are that it sounds great. I've got the day off tomorrow and will be putting it through the paces with some more musical variety and will try out a movie or two.

[antimony]

Man, I had no idea you were this big of a geek when I picked you out... glad you are excited though. :weee:

[Qman]

This stuff is the best bang for the buck that I've found.
www.diycable.com
They sell Cardas cable in bulk....yummy.

Great sounding speakers if you don't mind a little work putting them together. The Kit61's work nicely in the Parts Express boxes.

More on the speakers here: www.adireaudio.com

[binary visions]

This stuff is the best bang for the buck that I've found.
www.diycable.com
They sell Cardas cable in bulk....yummy.
Looks like nice stuff. Completely out of the current pricerange, though. Might consider that for my next system, though, I've always been a bit of a do-it-yourself guy.

[binary visions]

Final picture of my current setup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v288/binaryvisions/DSC05990.jpg

The pictures were put there to ensure that Jenn didn't kill me for ugly-ing up our living room with my speakers :D - yes, the picture in the right hand one is the paper that came with the frame, we haven't decided on a photo for that one yet.

I learned a lot during this whole process. Good stuff :thumb:

[antimony]

I learned a lot during this whole process. Good stuff :thumb:

Yeah... like not to 'ugly up' the living room, right? :nono:

[binary visions]

Yeah... like not to 'ugly up' the living room, right? :nono:

Something like that.


:weee:

[-dustin]

are you worried about the receiver getting hot in that space? i only have experience with 2 receivers and both got/ get quite warm when in use, so i arrange them such that they have plenty of room to breathe.

[binary visions]

are you worried about the receiver getting hot in that space? i only have experience with 2 receivers and both got/ get quite warm when in use, so i arrange them such that they have plenty of room to breathe.
Analogue receivers get much hotter than digital ones. I ran it for several hours straight and it got warm but not even close to hot.

[Pau11y]

HAHA! The 42" 1080P Westi and Scpetres are out! Around $2700 MSRP. This will be good w/ a HTPC methinks.

[binary visions]

HAHA! The 42" 1080P Westi and Scpetres are out! Around $2700 MSRP. This will be good w/ a HTPC methinks.
The TV thing doesn't interest me at the moment, I don't watch enough of it, but I HAVE been mentally building a SFF HTPC to stick behind that cabinet door.

Not spending the money on it, though. Going back to school - can't be blowing money on frivolous electronics when the laptop works perfectly well.

[Pau11y]

What school/program? I think I'm going to use my HTPC project as a design project. I might have to write some code or somfin and make it jump up and bark, roll over, and play dead, but I think they'll take it.

Interesting thought for you BV: space-based industry. The school I'm in is a big Geo/Mining school. The petroleum companies will need to diversify to stay alive in the next 20 years. They can go down the alt. energy road or move into resource exploration (what they're good at)... my $0.02

Oh, I found out an interesting little fact about my Leadtek 7800 GT: it doen't do dual monitor in SLI mode, and it won't run when both PCI-E slots are filled so I can't run triple monitor

[binary visions]

What school/program?

Information Technology program at East Carolina University. Would be interested in other programs if I find something better - I've only got a few credits so I've got lots of school ahead of me.

There's a great engineering program about an hour from me so I could always transfer there.

BTW (thread related), those R30's are back in stock at Outpost for $40:

http://shop4.outpost.com/product/3241451

[Ciaran]

BV, if you get this in time, how do you like those speakers? Since I am moving into a house and they are on sale right now I might go ahead and get a pair. (sounds like fate to me!) But I gotta do it quick, sale ends tomorrow! :D

[binary visions]

BV, if you get this in time, how do you like those speakers? Since I am moving into a house and they are on sale right now I might go ahead and get a pair. (sounds like fate to me!) But I gotta do it quick, sale ends tomorrow! :D
I like 'em a lot for the price. They really lack in bass but, on the hand, that's what a subwoofer is for, not your speakers (generally speaking). I'd say if these were your only speakers and you listened to a lot of rap, or used them primarily for movies, you'll be disappointed in their bass.

I live in an apartment and extreme bass (or even extreme volume) is not my friend, and I find they're great for day to day music listening. When I move into a place where I'm allowed to crank things up a bit, I'll probably buy a subwoofer and eventually a nicer set of fronts, maybe migrate these to surrounds.

For $40, I'm not sure there's a lot else to say - they are, to me, a screaming bargain. Go for it :thumb:

[Pau11y]

Polk's originally known for accurate reproduction of 2 channel audio. My old RTA8s were from those times. BV is right about the bass. But typically, 2 channel music reproduction isn't going to demand that much bass, until you get into electronically generated sounds. Rap, techno, movies, video games ect are all going to sound weak on a 6.5" driver alone. For stuff like classic rock, classical, maybe some flavor of metal, these should be sweet. My oldies has paper cones and it makes vocals sound very warm vs the crisp of the current poly cones (my rear surrounds are the R50 flavor bookshelfs w/ poly cones). This however may change after you play them a while and they break in.
Another company you may want to check is www.fluance.com. GREAT write-ups in the bang for the buck ratio.

BTW, BV. Hope you and Sanjuro didn't mind me dropping your name when I "worked" Burley Shirley on the WiFi theft thread :D

[Ciaran]

For $40, I'm not sure there's a lot else to say - they are, to me, a screaming bargain. Go for it :thumb:
Thanks BV, I appreciate the review. I went ahead and ordered a pair. I am pretty stoked, and the wife is too. I think like Jenn, she is diggin the un-ugliness factor. I may have to stick a couple of photos on top of them as well. :D

[binary visions]

Thanks BV, I appreciate the review. I went ahead and ordered a pair. I am pretty stoked, and the wife is too. I think like Jenn, she is diggin the un-ugliness factor. I may have to stick a couple of photos on top of them as well. :D
Jenn hate them at first since they're pretty large but I think she has just resigned herself to them. I really did try to find the least-ugly set of speakers I could afford :D

You'll have to let me know your impressions of them after you've got some listening time. I did actually notice a break-in time for them. The first day I had them up I did some listening, and for a couple days after that I just left some classical music on when I went to work. The next time I listened to them, they sounded a bit different. A little less harsh.

Mackie bought a set, too - I PM'd him when the sale went back on. I think I should make a commission :D

[narlus]

i think you should just buy the pair Ito (http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149096) is gonna have for sale soon.
:D

[Mackie]

Any of y'all have a recomendation for a speaker splitter?
I'm interested in using my single home theater setup to send music to speakers in the diningroom (where the amp is) the livingroom, and out to the deck. Just a simple 2 speaker setup in each location.

Thanks for any advice.....

[binary visions]

You really mean you're looking for a speaker switch or a speaker selector, right? Something to output to one set of speakers at a time, vs. a "splitter" that would output to all of the speakers at once.

Your amp almost certainly doesn't have enough power to drive all of those speakers at once unless they're tiny :think:

[Mackie]

You really mean you're looking for a speaker switch or a speaker selector, right? Something to output to one set of speakers at a time, vs. a "splitter" that would output to all of the speakers at once.

Your amp almost certainly doesn't have enough power to drive all of those speakers at once unless they're tiny :think:

Nope, you are right, a speaker selecter. The most I'd drive would be 2 pairs at once, and that would be rare.

[binary visions]

Nope, you are right, a speaker selecter. The most I'd drive would be 2 pairs at once, and that would be rare.
Well, I don't know what you were looking to spend but I was interested in this kind of thing myself and it looks like anything decent is going to run at LEAST $100 upwards into the $250 range.

The conclusion I came to was that the cheap ones provided a noticable drop in audio quality. I don't know if it would be noticable for me but I didn't really want to spend $40 + shipping to find out that I should have spent $140.

If you do a search on Amazon or any other site for "speaker selectors", feel free to purchase a cheap one and be a guinea pig :D

[Mackie]

Feel free to purchase a cheap one and be a guinea pig :D
Oh thanks.
I'll let you know when i buy something....

[jacksonpt]

As BV said, there are a variety of speaker selectors on the market. The cheap ones are made of lower quality materials and will degrade your sound quality (how much will vary). The more expensive ones do a decent job. It really comes down to how particular you are about your music quality.

Probably the best option would be to upgrade your receiver to something with multi-source/multi-room capability. Add into that an a/b speaker switch (built into the receiver) and you should be good to go with no noticable lost in sound (assuming your speakers are even remotely efficient).

[Mackie]

Probably the best option would be to upgrade your receiver to something with multi-source/multi-room capability. Add into that an a/b speaker switch (built into the receiver) and you should be good to go with no noticable lost in sound (assuming your speakers are even remotely efficient).

Any brand that you could recommend?
I've already got a fairly decent reciever with an A/B switch on it. Just looking to add a few more locales into the mix. Speakers are just fine, although I take advice on a good outdoor set.

[binary visions]

Bump.

Mackie: http://bensbargains.net/cgi-bin/bp.cgi?201752105

Have no idea if it's decent, but for $30 you wouldn't be out much money if it turns out to be crap. Just a suggestion.

How are you guys liking the Polks?

[Ciaran]

How are you guys liking the Polks?
I like the Polks. Nice speakers but as you said not a lot of low end punch. Not a big deal, especially for the price.

[H8R]

Picked up a pair of older JBL LX44 speakers on Friday from a coworker.

(circa 1990 or so)

USA made, 150 watt, 8" and 5" drivers, titanium tweeters


Exactly like these: (GIS pic)

http://www.teevogel.de/heimkino/pic/pic5.jpg


$30!


Wow. I mean WTF was I thinking? I was using $40 speakers from Best Buy. :rolleyes:

Now for a new receiver...

[Domin8stang]

my dad just started his own home audio business for people that want superior sound. he has alot of high end brands so if anybody is looking for something shoot him an email. here's his website

www.blackbirdaudio.com

tell him Nate sent ya :)

[H8R]

Holy fvck!

http://www.basisaudio.com/graphics/catalog/tbl_wkt_full_S.jpg

[Pau11y]

That thing looks like a bomb from Battlestar Galactica!

[Ciaran]

Is that a frikkin turntable!?

[H8R]

Is that a frikkin turntable!?

Yes. Or an incubator for eggs that aliens left on earth. I'm not sure.


http://www.basisaudio.com

[binary visions]

Nice score, H8R. :thumb:

I'm leaving the nice speakers until I move into a place where I can turn up my music without disturbing sixty-five other people.

I wonder how much that bizarre contraption costs? :think:

And does it require the $20,000, carbon-fiber coated speaker cables? :D

[narlus]

Yes. Or an incubator for eggs that aliens left on earth. I'm not sure.


http://www.basisaudio.com

i found some speakers to go w/ that:
http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/wilsonwatt7.jpg

http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/920/

they cost more than most people's cars. :D

[H8R]

Nice score, H8R. :thumb:

I'm leaving the nice speakers until I move into a place where I can turn up my music without disturbing sixty-five other people.
:D

I'm hearing things in some of my favorite CD's that I didn't know where there.

:D

I got the new speakers hooked up and hit play on whatever was in the CD player at the time - -

PJ Harvey's "To Bring You My Love". So much awesome production on there that I was missing before.


Now for a new amp, receiver and a new needle for the turntable, and we'll be all set.

[H8R]

i found some speakers to go w/ that:
http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/wilsonwatt7.jpg

http://www.stereophile.com/floorloudspeakers/920/

they cost more than most people's cars. :D

Jeez-lo-eez.




I've tracked a few records listening on these:

http://www.bwspeakers.com/images/SpeakerModel/images/805S/805S_BLACK_GRILLOFF.jpg

http://www.bwspeakers.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/products.models/label/Model%20805S



Probably my all time favorites.

[narlus]

bw's are studio's monitor of choice, right?

my old a/d/s are still kicking pretty good...when the kids are out of college, maybe i'll go nuts and dump some serious cha-ching into my sound system...that's only a couple decades away, and i probably won't have any money left...

[binary visions]

Meh. They're old enough to take care of themselves. I say give 'em the boot and use your savings on a new stereo and speakers.

[H8R]

bw's are studio's monitor of choice, right?


At Electrical, yes.

We did some mixing and tracking for Times of Grace in San Francisco on Mackie studio monitors - it was a painful chore. Lots of listener fatigue.


my old a/d/s are still kicking pretty good...when the kids are out of college, maybe i'll go nuts and dump some serious cha-ching into my sound system...that's only a couple decades away, and i probably won't have any money left...

Need cash? Lease the kids out while they are young enough not to remember too much.

:D

[narlus]

Need cash? Lease the kids out while they are young enough not to remember too much.

:D

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[H8R]

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:nono: :nonono: :nonono:

I never said send them to Vietnam or Thailand. Jeez.


Just some lightweight sweatshop work. Maybe at a Trek factory lacing wheels?

[Da Peach]

Okay:

Is there such a thing as wireless speakers that I could hook up to my stereo? I would like to have mobile speakers. I don't want to run cables all over the place.

The "experts" at Best Buy didn't know if that kind of thing even existed.

So?

Dang, this was supposed to be a new thread...

[binary visions]

I replied to your new thread :)